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Persians, Not Arabs

Iran is in the Middle East and it is a Muslim country so Iranians are Arabs, right? Wrong and once again wrong.

Iran has never been an Arabic country and until recent change in the name, it was known as Persia for thousands of years. It is a very ethnically diverse country that  also includes Arab minority in the Southern Iran.

Iranian people have very strong ties to their history, culture, and language. The dominant culture there is Persian and Farsi is their official language. Most Iranians consider themselves to be Persian and do not speak or even want to speak Arabic. This doesn’t mean that Iranians hate Arabs. Rather on the contrary they very much enjoy Arabic music, food, and culture; but they resist the  domination of it over their own culture and national identity.

Most Iranians are very proud of their rich heritage, strongly admire their former kings especially Cyrus the Great called in Farsi “ shahenshah” which means King of Kings and his legacy of introducing human rights in a political setting of the longest existing empire in world’s history. Under his reign people who worked in royal building projects were paid their wages, Cyrus The Great did not believe in slave labour. Women were active in all areas of social and even political life and enjoyed relative equality;something not seen until modern age.

Persia was a power house of academic knowledge in ancient times. They were leaders in astronomy, medicine, mathematics,and philosophy until conquering Islamic Army destroyed much of their achievements. Despite of this, Persian culture flourished. And even during Middle Ages Persia produced the best scholars in the world. One of them was Avicenna known also under Arabic name of Ibn Sina. His “Canon of Medicine” was the leading textbook in medical science in the world  and is very much respected even until modern times. 

This is the reason for which Iranians dislike being mistakenly identified as Arabs, because Arab Islamic army conquered them in a very brutal way, making them second class citizens in their own country and thus forced them over time to change their religion, and tried to destroy their culture.

It never fully succeeded and I believe that in near future we will see Iranians reject Islam as being “Arab invention” and return to their former multicultural values. In a way it is already happening. Most Iranians adhere much more to their Persian culture than to Islamic way of life that often clashes with it. They love their poetry, dance,and music which they cultivate in the privacy of their homes. Iranians long to have  political freedom and leaders who will seek the very good of the country instead of their own interests only,  as we can clearly observe Islamic regime in Iran does today.

So , please be more sensitive and don’t assume that they are Arabs just because they are from or living in the Middle East. I hope this article will inspire you to get to know Persian culture more and find out how much it has to offer to the world.

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  1. MoeCa$h

    On January 17, 2007 at 7:36 am


    With all due respect… I understand that many PERSIANS have something or another against being mistaken for an Arab, however, you’re making it sound like an insult… and being a Half-Persian Half-Arab myself, I take that to heart.

    What you must realize is that WE ARE ALL EQUAL HUMANS BEINGS, however, languages, cultures, traditions, customs and sadly to say, yes even religions divide us.
    In the case of Religions however, don’t blame the Religion itself or even God, blame the ones who undermine the religion for their own personal gains. I’m Muslim, but I have nothing against Christians, Jewish People, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs or even Atheists, so long as the individual is not purposely causing harm unto innocent people.

    Please do not make Islam look bad or any other religion for that matter… God did not intend for ‘religions’ to divide people, rather they were supposed to unite and strengthen people, provide social order and personal integrity.

    I appreciate your opinion and I do not have anything at all personal against you… this is my point of view and you are allowed to disagree.

    Peace and Blessings be upon you.

  2. that comment

    On April 11, 2007 at 10:53 pm


    WAS ON MY BIRTHDAY !!

  3. im iranian

    On April 11, 2007 at 10:54 pm


    IM IRANIAN WE RULE !!!

  4. Edie

    On April 21, 2007 at 8:26 am


    It is indeed an insult to be called someone you are not. This article shows to me that Iranians are proud of their identity and culture that is distinct from Arab and not Islamic.

    The author doesn’t make Islam look bad by twisting any facts, she mentiones facts about the way Islam was forced upon Persia. This is history and if it makes religion look bad so be it. It is very important to face facts even if you don’t like them.
    Roman Catholic Church used the same method of converting Muslims, Jews and killed many during Crusades in middle ages and Catholics have to live with these facts. Does it make Catholic Religion look bad? It does, and what? Maybe Catholics should question the infalibility of The Pope and other doctrines that lead to it. Religion always divides and controls, disfiguring the face of Loving God, think about it…

  5. GOLNAR

    On October 26, 2007 at 1:18 pm


    I completely agree with Edie. I certainly wouldn’t want to be compared to something I’m not. The author just wants to clearify that although Persians and Arabs live in the middle east, they are NOT one and the same. Persians have a rich culture and heritage, and in the time period when the kings of Persia were governing an empire and enacting Human Rights and interacting with other nations on an international scale; arabs were just nomads wandering the Saudi deserts. You would hardly imagine an Arab coming up with a Declaration of Human Rights back then. I understand your need to defend the arab half of your heritage Moeca$h, but facts are facts after all, and you have to acknoledge that and the fact that Iranians DO NOT like being called ARABS, especially someone like me. WE DONT EVEN RESEMBLE EACHOTHER. That’s like comparing Germans to Chinese!

  6. neutral guy

    On December 2, 2007 at 11:41 pm


    arab or persian… same thing, get over it. either way USA is gonna be stupid and invade u for oil. MmmMMmm oil is good with coffee.

  7. Ahmad Reza

    On December 11, 2007 at 8:10 am


    PASDARE NAME PAKE PARS TA HAMISHEIM.The Great Persians are simialar to no body especially arabs.they’re closer to the Italians and Greeks more.For isntance : the colour of the flag:
    Italy: left is GREEN,MIDDLE is WHITE ,righ RED.IRAN: up is GREEN,MIDDLE is WHITE,DOWN is RED.They wven look like each other.
    Thanks ,bye

  8. spiritoftheages

    On December 24, 2007 at 9:47 pm


    I am an Iranian(Persian)and proud of it. Your article was very true and informative.
    We are also proud of the fact that we did not lose our identity but the rest of the Middle East did…. for example Syria, Iraq, Egypt and so on and so forth. There are no Phoenicians, Sumerians, Mesopotamians or Palestinians in left only their story lives on.They are all Arabs now. They speak and live as Arabs not as their original ant sisters. I can only say that even though Arabs came and conquered Persia for a long while but we fought them with everything we had and never surrendered completely. It is true Iranians are waking up and one day maybe not in my life time. We will again show the world why we are such noble and honorable people. We first and foremost are Persians. We maybe Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Bahaii and Zorasterian but we all are Persians (Iranians).

  9. Yazdani

    On February 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm


    It’s cool that you are trying to distinguish Iranians from Arabs but you obviously have a problem with Islam. And no, Iranians do not view Islam as an “Arab invention”. Though you may wish they would, very few do. Iranians/Persians are Aryan which mean they are of Proto-Iranian stock (I use the term genetically not nationally)and are related to Afghanis, Pashtuns, Tajiks, and Ossetians (of Russia and Georgia).

  10. am uncool

    On February 12, 2008 at 5:16 pm


    i agree irans are not arabs

  11. Gino

    On February 22, 2008 at 1:35 pm


    Iranians would just love to be white…lol…your hairy and dark so accept yourselves..stop trying to be white or relate to europeans because we greeks and italians think of you as hairy indians.

  12. Edie

    On February 26, 2008 at 5:08 pm


    Not all Iranians are dark and this just shows how ignorant some people can be regarding historical as well as ethnical identity of other people groups.

  13. Ginos Father

    On March 4, 2008 at 7:47 pm


    Sorry to tell you Gino, but Im your real father, and Im persian

    say hi to your mom for me

  14. dagny

    On March 19, 2008 at 5:16 pm


    Thanks for this. I am arguing this subject right now, that Persians are not Arabs.

    Perhaps someone could help me. What exactly is the ethnic background of a Persian vs. Arab, in modern terminology?

  15. Edie

    On March 22, 2008 at 2:43 pm


    Persians are of indo-euorpean origin and Arabs are semitic peoples. I hope it helps!

  16. Saffir Ahmed

    On March 26, 2008 at 9:59 am


    All are Aryans. Dark skinned Aryans, Brown skinned Aryans. No one in Africa ever swung from trees. So please educate your ignorant self. Stop watching them medieval movies, retire that playstation, & pick up a book with real references. Stop spreading racism around the globe. There were only 3 groups of people- white , black & yellow. All people of brown/red came from race mixing. Be proud to have some African in your veins because whites history is made up. Conquest isn’t history. Unless you want a history of barbarians & chaos. African civilization was here before Mohammed was even born, before there was a Germany, before there was a Europe, before Europeans wore clothes or washed their stink butts. Stop spreading hates & lies. White is white, black is black, & brown/red are mixed up between the two.

  17. American Dude

    On March 29, 2008 at 12:31 pm


    So Iranians are Aryans and proud of it? Just like Hitler! Man, I’m so glad you guys aren’t arabs. Pheww!

    And I’ve been to Greece, and was really surprised how dark and hairy the people really were! I thought I was in Baghdad!

  18. Hakan

    On March 30, 2008 at 12:18 am


    I’m a Turk and I think Iranians mixed with Arabs, since Iranians are generally darker than Turks and resemble Arabs. Not all, but some.. anyhow, we are all human beings and equal so who cares?

  19. PERSIANALITY

    On April 2, 2008 at 3:54 pm


    WE ARE PERSIANS…and i take it as an insult to my culture if someone call me an Arab…i dont speak arabic, i dont want to speak arabic, i dont like arabic culture or history!
    Perisa forEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  20. The Author

    On April 9, 2008 at 2:43 pm


    I didn’t say that Arab culture is bad, or that it is insult to be an Arab, but I wanted people to realize that it is not polite to be ignorant about one’s culture.

    Another thing is the Islamization of Iranians by Muslim Arabs, which happened by force, hence, learning Arabic at schools. It is forced upon Iranians, jus as polish people were forced to learn Russian at schools during the communist rule. Guess what? It made us dislike Russian.

  21. Shahram

    On April 30, 2008 at 1:22 am


    We are not Arab.”Alone among the Middle Eastern peoples conquered by the Arabs, the Iranians did not lose their language or their identity”
    Yes it is.
    some Differnce between Persian And aRABs:We were friends of jews from cyrus the great time to now,But arabs are jews enemies.We Like drinking wine,signing,dancing and arabs like crying.We like western culture and arabs hate this!We prtetend to be muslems and they are muslems.
    Please read THIS “Iran Vs. Saudi Arabia: Who can be a better US ally”
    Link is here
    http://watandost.blogspot.com/2007/02/iran-vs-saudi-arabia-who-can-be-better.html

  22. Persian Admirer

    On May 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm


    I def. see Persians as being somewhat more open and free in terms of conservative tradition and religion than Arabs. And yes, Iranians probably have more in common these days with Indo-Europeans of the world (i.e. the Western world) than they do with Arabs.

  23. Brandon Imani

    On June 25, 2008 at 11:48 pm


    Alright well.. I’m half Persian half Italian.
    Mums from Italy and my dads from Iran and I’m Baha’i.
    I live in Australia/Melbourne and I don’t think calling a Persian an “Arab” is an insult, i mean… Most people that don’t know much about the middle eastern area would call you an Arab if you were Persian because look at it this way.. Iran was taken over by the Islamic culture and Islamic people are Arabs right? So why wouldn’t others think we are Arab… But look who cares man, we can get called names, blah blah… but in the end we know who we are! We know who we stand for, so don’t make a big fit over this? It’s seriously pathetic. And this comment is coming from a 15 year old, and no I’m not that “nerd in the class” or whatever… I’m actually kinda bad in school and all but I still know about this because It’s what I have been taught by my father.

    Anyway grow up don’t fit about small things.
    But yes, we are not Arabs. We are Persians full stop!

  24. German white man

    On July 25, 2008 at 8:55 am


    I can understand that been persian is different from been arab, but why for God sake would someone kiss the white race boot and do anything he can to prove to his master white blue/green eyed european that he is Aryan. At the end of the day, Aryan sounds more like barbarian.

  25. Mike for NYC

    On July 25, 2008 at 9:02 am


    Bottom line is that both white europeans and dark arabs kicked the persians ass. I mean everybody in the western world knows how the spartans slapped you in the face, then the arab muslims introduced you to monotheism after centries of darkness in worshipping fire and all that non sens staff. Get over it A-rab-yans!!!!

  26. Turk

    On July 26, 2008 at 5:36 pm


    One could say that Iranians look like Turks, but Iranians are darker on average. Also culturally Iran and Turkey are quite similar. I love Iran.

  27. n/a

    On July 31, 2008 at 4:19 am


    Lots of opinions here, but i’ll just add one for the hell of it.

    I’m Iranian and I live in the south of the United States. Life here isn’t that bad at all, but there is a great deal of ass-backwardness. We’ve got plenty of fanatical christian missionaries, phallic racists, hypocrites, guilty whites, angry blacks, and all sorts of other types of bastards.

    Regardless of this, i don’t have a problem with someone mistaking me for an Arab. To be perfectly honest, I myself can’t tell an Iranian from an Arab. I’ve seen dark Arabs and dark Iranians. I’ve also seen lighter Iranians and lighter Arabs. How in the hell could i tell them apart? The only way to identify an Iranian is by hearing him speak his language. Do you expect every American, European, Asian, and African to be familiar with the Iranian language? If so, you’re completely deluded. Of course, history books in high schools are written by european americans for european americans, but as far as i’m concerned, it means absolutely nothing. In this society today, what is an historian? He’s nothing but a smooth talker or a featured individual on a talk show. The industrial world doesn’t care about the historical dignity of any nation, including its european background. Today, if a European American is over-zealously holding to traditions from a different era in history (for example, an Italian holding to pure Roman ideals, etc.), they will be isolated from their environments. The same is true for any individual, regardless of culture.

    You can not manufacture culture over the internet or by spitefully holding to a way of life which is suited for a completely different era in history. I say this even to the author of this pathetic article (if you want to call it that): take a look around you for a change. Don’t you see the fact that making absurd expectations of people (expecting americans/europeans to be able to tell Iranians from Arabs, which i can’t even do as an Iranian) is a factor in perpetuating divisions among diverse populations in countries? What kind of ass-backwardness are you promoting?

  28. sorra

    On August 10, 2008 at 4:43 am


    Arabs are too proud of then selves which is stupid

    but I never knew that Iranians are too proud !! which is sick

    my mother is persian … my fathers is Arab

    how can I live now ?

    I live in an Arabic country ( in the Gulf ) they are stupid because they think they are better that iranians with everything !

    but I never thought that Iranians think the same …. so … the point it … BOTH of you are stupid if you think this way

    just grow up and clean your heart

  29. n/a at all

    On August 12, 2008 at 7:56 am


    sorra, i totally agree with everything u said!

    Anyway, just one thing, is it true that the iranians are the whitest-coloured race in the world, along with the germans? Because one thing, I do agree that some of them are very white, but most of them really aren’t. Any help?

  30. I'M BLACK YA'LL

    On August 17, 2008 at 12:27 am


    ARABS…IRANIANS….PERSIANS….ARYANS…WHO CARES?!!! AIN’T NONE OF YA’LL GETTING THROUGH AIRPORT SECURITY/TSA ANYWAY!!! LOL!!! IT’S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO DEAL WITH RACIAL PROFILING :)

  31. jew'world

    On September 1, 2008 at 8:32 am


    you all are the same to the west..The u.s will invade Iran just like we invaded Iraq and take your oil…You people are so pathetic….

  32. Edie

    On September 2, 2008 at 8:49 am


    This is just the problem, that the west is so ignorant when it comes to the culture of other peoples. Persian culture exists for thousands of years. Yes, US may invade, but it will be invaded by someone else someday. What will happen to the American culture then?

  33. YUSUF

    On September 2, 2008 at 11:08 pm


    Iam proud to be a Persian, but I have no difference, most of my friends are arabs, I really dont care, to me most importnt thing is the behaivieor of the person.
    By the way who says that you cann’t see the difference between arabs and persian (there are a big difference)

  34. ramin

    On September 6, 2008 at 8:23 pm


    good article thanks.. about the comments : its funny that there are so many uneducated people in the world!

    yall go read some history about IRAN and Persian culture!

    Iran means Land of Aryans! for those who doesn’t know!
    And yes i don’t like it when someone mistaken me arab!

  35. why i hate arabs

    On September 10, 2008 at 10:07 pm


    i hate arabs for a simple fact they did the same to Turkey,Lebanon,Agypt etc.Arabs forced their f… religion by sword on those people.They killed many who did not chose islam. I may have been born moslem but i despite islam and arabs with passion!! Yes i hope too soon enough all those countries,such as Iran,Turkey,Lebanon,Agypt will soon realize that islam is an arab religion and will return to their own roots. I hope this will happen very soon

  36. Anyonomous

    On September 12, 2008 at 9:42 am


    I agree that Persians and Arabs should be classified differently. I have two friends that are Persian.

  37. sup

    On September 16, 2008 at 1:34 pm


    hello.

  38. Indian

    On September 17, 2008 at 10:03 pm


    It look likes persians are stupid. Persians think they are like white europians, with brown hair and blues eyes. They are like indians or pakistanis or even arabs.

    I am from india, one thing persians have to accept is ARAB IS WORLD not a single country like iran. Arabic languages is a very important language for 1.8 Billion muslims around the globe, they respect because Quran is in arabic.
    Even in iran also persians are only around 50%, 25% are azeri, kuridish, baluchi and arabs. Don’t feel proud or arrogant, in india brahmin hindus say they are aryans, So What? In india we have 50 languages each languages are different but hindi is main language they have dominance over other language. Just like iran is in middle east persian is a language spoken by minority in middles. Nobody will care about persian language, whenever or whoever from west or east say about middle east they only think about Arabic.
    What I would say to persians are learn arabic, forget persian.

  39. K. Pahlavi

    On October 6, 2008 at 11:53 pm


    Wow a lot of the people posting here define stupid.

    I will agree, as a persian, that there is NO reason why to be instulted if someone calls us arabs. Just by my looks, most of the time people think im lebanese when im generations and generations of persian blood.

    That apart, it is insulting when people don\’t know, ON GENERAL TERMS, the difference between persians and arabs. That, and only that, is insulting to my culture for many reasons.
    1. we are the oldest reconized empire. pick up any history book and try to tell me the opposite (we came 500 years before the egyptians if you are wondering.
    2. the persians wrote the first chart of human rights over 2500 years ago. it was there mentionned the equity of religion. and our emperor cyrus gave freedom to the jews.
    3. algebra
    4. the guitar (what would music be?)
    5. coins oh and insurance and welfare too

    the list goes on and on. if you guys wanna hear more it will be my pleasure to keep on listing.

    all of this to say is that we are proud of all we have done in the past. so proud. we dont want anyone taking it away from us. this is also why we hold on to the term persian and do not call ourselves iranians.

    now i ask you.
    have u ever tried calling a maroccan an algerian?
    a greek an italian?
    a mexican a spanish?
    a chineese a thai?
    an american a german?
    its the same for us.

  40. Asian Guy

    On October 8, 2008 at 11:28 am


    Funny how most of the Persian people that I know get very offended that they get called Arab. However, they have no problem calling me Japanese (I’m Chinese/Vietnamese), or classifying all of us Asians together. They also don’t differential between people from Central or South America either, to them, they are all Mexican.

    Get it over, people in general are stupid and are going to make assumptions of what you are by appearance. If you get insulted if you are accidentally called Arab, then you have other issues to deal with.

  41. Pharonen

    On October 9, 2008 at 10:09 am


    Im Egyptian and I get offended when people call me ARAB. Not because I have anything against ARABS, but because no egyptian is ARAB and my country has the longest spanning history of any country on the planet! My ancestors basically started civilization and have contributed greatly to the way of life we have today. Also, just like Iranians point out, Egyptians look NOTHING like true ARABS and the cultures are completely different. We just started speaking arabic after the invasion.

  42. hamed

    On October 11, 2008 at 7:06 am


    Arabs were those who screwed persian culture forcefuly. iranians had their own religion and culture but whole thinges changed since arabs invaded persian theritory.

  43. Irandoost

    On October 14, 2008 at 3:09 pm


    Thanks to the author of this article. True, the worst thing you can do to an Iranian is call him an Arab. Arab NEVER had any culture of their own. They were lizard-eating Bedouins and tribalistic nomads from the desert (they still, to this day eat a lizard called “dhab” or “dhub” in Saudi Arabia, just do a google search under both spellings), and had nothing to offer the world except a violent religion named Islam, which they imposed on the Iranian people under the sword, and against their will, and killed, raped, pillaged and sacked Iranian cities after the Battles of Qadisiya and Nahavand. NO Iranian will EVER forgive them for that. They even destroyed monuments and destroyed ancient statues, wrongfully thinking that Persians worshipped them as idols. They thought Zoroastrians were fire-worshippers which is totally WRONG, since Zoroastrians do NOT worship fire, they are monotheistic and fire while holy to them (it symbolizes purity and strength) was never and is NOT worshipped by them, yet Arabs still refer to Iranians as “majoosi” (fire-worshippers) even though modern-day Iranians are Muslim. Even after imposing their violent religion on the Iranian people, Arabs consider Iranians “infidels”, this time of course, because Iranians are Shia, and Arabs who are mostly Sunni consider Shia to be heretics. Iranians of course, chose Shi’ism mostly out of hatred for Omar ibn al-Khattab, (who invaded and raped Persia), than love of Imam Ali or the ahl ul bayt of the Prophet. It is a shame, since Christianity had just begun to take root in Persia before the Arab invasion, and many Persians were converting from Zoroastrianism to Christianity. To this day, many Persian saints are commemorated in the Eastern Orthodox Church.
    Arabs have the NERVE to call the Persian mathematicians, scientists, astronomers, poets and mystics ARABS! They were Muslims yes, and part of the Islamic Caliphate, but they were PERSIANS. Ibn Sina was Persian, Abu Reyhan Biruni was Persian, Zakariya Razi was Persian AND Jewish, and the list goes on.
    Arabs also murdered the best and brightest Persians had to offer. Bright men like Abu Moslem Khorasani and Ibn Muqaffa.
    The Abbasid Caliphate was heavily Persian when it came to infrastracture, in fact it was Persians who shaped its bureaucracy and Persians GAVE it infrastructure.
    There is NO reason for Iran and Israel to be enemies, as we are natural allies. Arabs attacked our ancient Persia, Iran, again in 1980, and made our country hemmorrhage for eight years. They call the PERSIAN Gulf, which even 12th century cartographers recognise is Persian, the “Arabian Gulf” and claim Iranian territory. Arabs claim Khuzestan Province, and call it “Arabistan”, they call Khorramshahr “Muhammarah”, they call Ahvaz “Al Ahwaz”, they call Bandar Lengeh and Bandar Abbas “Arab ports” and they claim Iran’s three islands of Greater Tunb, Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa, and this after Iran gave up her legitimate claims to Bahrain, which is historically Persian and separated from the Iranian mainland by the British (Bahrain is also 80 percent Shia, with Bahrainis of Persian origin making up more than 2/3 of the Shia majority on the island). Iran made this sacrifice of giving up her rightful claims to Bahrain in 1970 to shut the Arabs up, but nothing is ever enough for them.
    And why is Shia Iran becoming the spokesperson for the Sunni Arab Palestinians, who hate both Persians and hate Shia? Are the Palestinians not the same people who march with Saddam Hussein’s picture in Gaza, call Saddam “the greatest Arab hero”, the same Saddam who butchered a million Iranians in the war and many Iranian civilians killed by his Scuds which rained down on Iranian cities? Are the Palestinians not among those many Sunni Arabs who refer to Persians as “rawafidh” (plural of “rafidhi”…a term originally meaning “one who rejects [the truth], but now commonly used to mean “heretic” by Sunni Arabs when referring to Shia Iranians), and who also call Persians “ubna al-mut’aa” (”sons of mut’aa”)? Do they not join other Arabs in calling the Persian Gulf, the “Arabian Gulf”?
    Iran and Israel are natural allies. Both are surrounded by hostile Sunni Arab states, both are hated and unwanted by Arabs in the Middle East, and Arabs cannot stand the thought of a non-Arab Jewish state in their midst, any more than they can stand the thought of a non-Arab, Persian, Shia state in their midst.
    The Shah was wise enough to recognise this, and formed an alliance with Israel. Israel not ONCE ever gave Iran any trouble before 1979, when the late Khomeini, for NO reason whatsoever, and against Iran’s national interests, decided to take on Israel. Never did Israel claim Iranian territory, and we do not even share borders. Israel was Iran’s best friend under the Shah (before 1979 that is). Arabs have ALWAYS been, and always be, Iran’s number one enemy.

  44. Irandoost

    On October 14, 2008 at 3:23 pm


    To the stupid Syrian who said we Iranians have only ONE country. Quality counts, not quantity, plus Persian is spoken not just in Iran, but in Afghanistan, Tajikistan and half of Uzbekistan, and ancient Persia once encompassed what is now the “Arab world”. Also, half you Arabs are fighting among each other…case in point, Algeria vs. Morocco over who owns Spanish Sahara, etc. So keep quiet, you sound more intelligent that way.
    You Arabs may have wiped everything that was symbolic of Persian culture or represented Persian identity when you raped our country, but we rose from our ashes, and produced all the smart people of the Islamic Caliphate.
    Your 24 countries? Half of them are on another continent, and feel little kinship with the rest of you. Ask most Algerians what they are, and they will tell you they identify more with their Kabyle (Berber) culture than with Arabs. Ask Lebanese, they will deny being Arabs and remind you they are Phoenicians. Ask Egyptians, and you will hear them say they feel closer to Egypt’s pre-Islamic culture than post-Islamic culture.
    Syria was one hundred percent Christian as a Byzantine Province, and its people identified with a Syriac/Aramaic culture back then, not an Arab one. Even modern-day Palestinians are descendants of Canaanites and Jews, and are only linguistically and culturally Arab (and religiously Arab as well, except for Christian Palestinians). So “bous teezi” my dear.

  45. Irandoost

    On October 15, 2008 at 5:46 pm


    Old habits die hard. Like Arabs taking what is not theirs and re-registering it as “Arab”.

  46. Tee

    On October 16, 2008 at 9:41 am


    What about the Elamites, Author? Do you consider them Persian? They weren’t Indo-European. They, like the Arabs, were Semites and they were black-skinned with kinky hair–like the original pure Arabs were/are.

    http://www.vohuman.org/SlideShow/Palace%20of%20Darius%20in%20Susa/Soldier01Susa.jpg

  47. Mehmet

    On November 8, 2008 at 10:17 pm


    But why do many Iranians look like Arabs?

  48. Zeyad

    On November 14, 2008 at 7:30 am


    I’m a muslim from Saudi Arabia. I’m a muslim first and Arabic second, but proud of both. But I’m shocked to hear that some muslim persians are not proud to be muslims. Islam is the religon of equality. The Qur’an has stated that no one is better than other, regardless if your arabic or persian or african or .. etc. Islam is a great religon and believe, and the fastest growing religon nowadays. Most muslims are not Arabs. The biggest muslim population is Indonesia, non-Arab nor forced to be muslims.

    It is funny! I was mistaken to be Iranian once in Dubai… I didn’t feel bad about it?!? and why would you? Just explain to them who you are politely.

    Arabs are sematic, or not persians, or persians are aryanis, blah blah … soo what! I also know many Arabs who got angry being compared to persians .. thats also stupid.

    Quote (((So , please never insult any Iranian by assuming that they are Arabs just because they are from or living in the Middle East))) .. PURE RACISM!

    Racism is prohibited by Islam and it is disgusting.

    Salam.

    (Special reply)

    (For the author: Edyta Nowak-Tehrani) It is normal to be proud but not ignorant! your article is racist and damaging not only to Arabs but Persians also. BTW, true Arabs are from Yemen not Saudi Arabia. Check it out! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab).

  49. Edyta

    On November 15, 2008 at 10:13 am


    Thank you, Zeyad, for taking the time to read this article. I’m not a racist. I wrote this in order to educate people about Persian culture. I have nothing against Arabs themselves, however, it is true historical fact that first Muslims forced Islam upon other nations by very brutal conquest, and Persia is an example of that. Your version of Islam is very different from that practiced in the beginning. I think you just didn’t like me exposing some truths about your religion that you don’t like to come to terms with.

  50. Zeyad

    On November 17, 2008 at 4:55 am


    Thank you Edyta for your reply.

    I didn’t say your a racist. I said your article is racist. I think you would have done a better job expressing your pride by mentioning the ethnic diversity of the Middle East and the role of Persia in different aspects of life, science, culture and history without having to insult anyone.

    Edyta, tell me what you think …(So , please never insult any Iranian Arab or Iranian Kurd or Iranian Turkmen by assuming that they are Aryani or Persian just because they are from or living in Iran). Could this be insulting to an Aryani or Persian individual? I think it likely would. That is why I don’t like your article not because it exposed some truth about my religion, NO , because its racist!

    Actually, you haven’t exposed anything truthful about my religion. Muslims preserved many cultures including Persian. Muslims absorbed the culture and promoted scientific research. Scientists were very close to the Muslim rulers. Search the references and see what muslims have achieved in Iraq, Iran, India, Spain, etc. BTW, along with Persians, Arab Muslims also love their poetry, music, dance, arts, etc. Check it out!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_poetry

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_music

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_culture

    Islam is not against culture nor its forced to be religion. All over the Islamic world, many muslims celebrate national days, festivals, ethnic celebrations, etc. Please judge by looking at the majority not the minority. Always check and double-check more than one reference especially with historical events. Islam started slowly and people chosen Islam voluntarily.

    (Your version of Islam is very different from that practiced in the beginning). I believe in the same God and read the same Qur’an. I believe in the prophet (PBUH) and love his family. I believe in Jesus, Mouses, Abraham, Adam, etc. I pray five times a day. I fast the month of Ramadan. I pay my Zakat and perfomed Haj already. I try to help others and be kind. I’m married with children I love. I try to make my parents happy. I respect my neighbours. I work hard for my family. Basically, I try hard doing everything based on Qur’an and prophet teachings. So .. what is different? what do you mean by “my version of Islam”?

    Islam is not “Arab” nor an “Invention”. Read about Islam. I’m also sure that most Iranian muslims (including moderate) don’t agree with you also.

    Once again Edyta, I respect you and respect the Persian culture. I have many Persian friends. If your intention is promoting Persian culture and history, try it without insulting anyone’s culture or religion. Persia has a great history and culture, you don’t need to insult or compare it with anything to educate people about it. Again, talk about the fine architecture in Isfahan, or Zand dynasty relics in Shiraz, or beautiful mount Damavand, or the great Achaemenid Empire or the Farsi language or the famous Persian cuisine (my favourate is Sabzi Pollow).

    You can also explain than Perisa along with other great civilizations in the Middle East (such as Babylonians, Hittites, Assyrians, Phoenicians, Ancient Egypt, Islamic, etc)have shaped the world as we know nowadays. The Middle East is a source of great history and science not terrorism!

  51. Hakan

    On December 1, 2008 at 1:18 pm


    Did arabs not settle in Persia when they conquered it? Didn’t they spread Islam by intermarrying Persians? Why do some Persians look similar to Arabs, they have curly hair and a dark skin for example.

  52. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On December 3, 2008 at 4:48 pm


    There are many ethnic groups in Iran including Arabs. Not all Iranians have curly hair and dark skin. This article is not as much about ethnicity as it is about culture and history. And historical truth is that Islam was forced upon Persians.

  53. Hakan #18

    On December 6, 2008 at 8:29 am


    Hakan’s comment (#18) is so typically Turkish. Here’s a summary: “Let me be a typical Turk by attempting to distance myself from Persians, shoving the latter into Arab territory by using skin color (which can change easily in 15 minutes under the sun) as the basis of my logic. Once I’m done with that, I will claim to have good intentions and no smug comment by saying all people are equal.” So obnoxious. If you’ve got something snarky or catty or anti-Persian or pro-Persian to say, just say it, you don’t need to be lame by adding at the end “Oh, not that what I just said matters, all people are equal and wonderful yada yada”.

  54. Mike #25 NYC

    On December 6, 2008 at 8:36 am


    First Mike from NYC, I’m going to assume the movie 300 was the basis for your first comment. Saying that the spartans whooped the persians is like saying that the Germans beat the Allies, well, during a few months during 1942. You see what I mean? Probably not. you’re taking one specific event out of its context. In reality, the arab, persian, mongol, ottoman, babylonian and greek empires all waged wars on one another over long periods of time. for some centuries, persians beat the greeks (your “spartans”), for some centuries persians beat the babylonians, and likewise, for some centuries the greeks beat the persians and the arabs beat the persians. so your first comment: not too clever.
    As for the second comment, Zoaroastrianism (nice, you didn’t even know the name, just the “fire” part right?), was actually the reason why Christianity and Judaism are monotheistic. Zoaroastrianism was the first monotheistic religion, and it passed this monotheism to Judaism, which was the precursor for Christianity. You can see this in the Old Testament which says that “you shall have no other gods before me”, implying that Jews initially believed in multiple gods, but that they simply believed one outranked the others. When the Jews were saved by Cyrus from Babylonian captivity, and traveled to Persia where they were safe and allowed to worship freely, they were influenced by Zoaroastrianism (incidentially, Z. was the first religion to believe in the coming of a Messiah, something else Judaism borrowed from Z. and that was passed down to Christianity). So long story short Mike from NYC, you can thank Persians for Jesus. You’re welcome. Now, go read a book.

  55. labbooneh

    On December 7, 2008 at 11:34 am


    u know what!i couldn’t be more annoyed when i read the many weird comments in here,i was searching in the web about iran’s culture and i found this article.
    iranians are not arabs this is a fact,on the other hand arabs are not any other nation.every nation has its identity,but it becomes so ignorant and shallow if any got hurt or bad when others call them other than who they r,esp if they felt so due to a false belief that they r better than other ethnicities.
    i can accept a correction like this and only if one was asked about it and u wanted to give him an answer out of expanding his knowledge and encourage him to read more as “ya i am iranian but iranians r not arabs,although many of us r muslims coz islam reached many countries,like spain,turkey,iran…other than the arab world.so being a muslim does not mean i am an arab,although i respect all nations but this is to correct ur info,which is a fact.it’s like saying stonehengs was built by old ppl from france for example,this is wrong it’s built by old ppl from england,but saying so is out of correcting a historical info to ppl and not out of being ashamed that it was refered to french,coz this is not the case,french or americans or iranians or arabs,it’s all wrong out of wanting others to know the correct thing out of more knowledge and not out of racism as it’s so obvious is here”
    but to me i never ever thought of it that way,i traveled a lot,many tells me i look american,other say u look italian,others say u look french,but i’ve never ever thought of it but in a positive way and i say usually thanx but i’m jordanian,witha happy smile,coz believe me it was just a way to start a talk,or give a compliment or such,but if one took it in a negative way and started arguing “how could u say so?i am pure bla bla bla,i am insulted then it’s their problem,i tell them nothin but that they r stupid,no1 cares to know,and racism is bad,it leads to destruction,after all we have to live in this world in harmony,to learn to accept the other and not to use the word insult coz if it shows anything,it’ll reflect how sick is the person who used it.
    and for ur info i’m not iranian i told u i’m jordanian,and arabs know u r not arabs,so don’t panic if that makes u feel better!!but we opened ur country long time ago and there r lots of muslims in iran tod,and in islam it was not by sword,i pity u,but if u read enough,or gave time to sth more useful than cursing on ethnicities and religions,u would have known that muslims gave the freedom to all conquered countries to enter islam or stay on their religion but that they have to pay a tax,and this tax was not big that it was not the cause that led tp ppl becoming muslims.and more imp that in this world there r good christians and bad ones,good muslims and bad ones,good jews and bad ones,coz all r humans every1 act differently,if not why we have crimes all over the world?is their a nation that have all ppl being angels,i again pity u if u think so!!
    i was interested in reading about iran coz it has a gr8 culture,like many other places in this world,and i do read a lot,so plz try to welcome ppl to read about u,and not to give bad idea of ur ppl,as the one i took from the comments i read here,coz u have a gr8 culture,art and architecture,support tourism,be welcoming to all nations so that ppl will know more about u,and not by cursing or insulting other on a web site.

  56. ricardo1980

    On December 12, 2008 at 11:53 am


    Dear all,

    I am so sick of the PERSIAN PATRIOTISM. Although i acknowledge that The Persians had a great empire, never have i met a GROUP OF PEOPLE SO PROUD.

    WHAT the Persians need to get through their THICK SCULL is that every empire contributed to Civilisation. Not just the PERSIANS.

    GREEKS,ROMANS ETC ALL CONTRIBUTED.

    I know many PERSIANS and all they do is whinge about ISLAM.

    But when it comes NOWRUZZZZZZZZ, they put the Quran.

    PERSIANS ARE ALWAYS CLAIMING THAT ARABS RUINED THEIR CIVILISATION, did you know that CHRISTIANS where persucuted in the PERSIAN EMPIRE under SHAPUR II.

    SO PLEASE get over the ISLAM FORCED every empire enforces its belief system and value system to an extent.

    PERSIANS EXPANDED THEIR BORDERS WITH THE SWORD AND CHARIOT

    PERSIAN women have a thing on their shoulder BUT WHAT they really have is a BAD NOSE that usually gets chopped off.

    THANKS for listening

    Ricardo

  57. Aryaputra

    On December 18, 2008 at 12:31 am


    Do you know that Avestan is almost 99% like Santskrit. The names of God are the same. And that Bharat (India) and Iran are the closest relations. North India was known as Aryavarsh or ancient Persian AryaVjo. North Indians still call themselves Aryan other than Muslim or should I say Mujlim converts. The Arab animals and thier followers destroyed Aryan monuments in India and ruined Indian knowlege. Unlike Iran they could not defeat Aryans in India. So consolidated and stole Pakistan, under the name of the filthy Relgion of Islam. The Arab animals stole trillions of dollars from India, and killed 80 million Aryas in North India. Zorastrianism and Hinduism are relatives. The Persian Budd, comes from MahaBhud. Budprast or idol worshiper, comes from Budprathana in hindi. Persian and Hindi are very very close even today. So your closest Aryan brother are in India. Bradather in proper hindi. The Aryan Matrastan or Matrabhoomi (motherland)was from the Iranian lands to the Ganges until the Arab animals brought Islam and destruction.

  58. Surya

    On December 18, 2008 at 12:37 am


    The war against Islam still continues. Aryans from India to Iran need to unite and destroy this filthy semetic religion. Death to soul of Bin Qasim and Ghori. May their soul be stolen and raped.

    Jai Arya, Aryavarsha Zindabad.

  59. zahra firuzeh

    On December 18, 2008 at 9:22 am


    Hi dear witter
    This is very nice text.
    Im iranian and thank you from all irania people for ur research.
    thank u
    thank u

  60. Shamsher

    On December 18, 2008 at 10:58 pm


    I doubt very much that Chritians were persicuted in Aryan Iran or India. As Aryans never discriminated against any religion. The Hindus and Zorastrians are the most tolerant religions on earth. It was the crazed Arab animals that killed for God. And it was Islam (peace what a joke) that took them from rubbing thier asses in the sand and turned them into serial killers and thieves.

  61. Siad

    On December 19, 2008 at 8:12 pm


    Look at Pakistan we were attacked by mad dog Arab Bin Qasim. We have become nothing since. India is doing much better than us. We are a dirt poor nation with no idenitity, we worship Saudi Arabia and now have terrorists more than we have educated people. Jinnah would be proud of this nation as he wanted an Islamic nation, he did not know that we were Aryan once also. And were part of a greater India and Persia. We are not Arabs, in fact we were raped and killed by Arabs. But Pakistanis don’t want to know they are Indian. Because they have been brainwashed by Arab bastards.

  62. ricardo1980

    On December 20, 2008 at 3:47 pm


    Its a historical fact that christians were persecuted in Persia under SHAPUR II.

    Just research the history of Christianity in Persia.

    JUST ANOTHER PERSIAN EXCUSE. IT MAKES ME SICK HOW PERSIANS THINK THEY INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING SUCH AN ACT. OH SORRY I FORGOT THEY SEE THEMSELVES SUPERIOR OVER THE HUMAN RACE.

    Ricardo

  63. PERSIAN Treatment of Jews wasn't always tolerant

    On December 20, 2008 at 5:17 pm


    JEWS SUPPRESSED UNDER PERSIAN EMPIRE

    Sassanid period (226–634CE)
    By the early Third Century, Persian influences were on the rise again. In the winter of 226 CE, Ardashir I overthrew the last Parthian king (Artabanus IV), destroyed the rule of the Arsacids, and founded the illustrious dynasty of the Sassanids. While Hellenistic influence had been felt amongst the religiously tolerant Parthians,[9][10][11] the Sassanids intensified the Persian side of life, favored the Pahlavi language, and restored the old monotheistic religion of Zoroastrianism which became the official state religion.[12] This resulted in the suppression of other religions.[13] A priestly Zoroastrian inscription from the time of King Bahram II (276–293 CE) contains a list of religions (including Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism etc.) that Sassanid rule claimed to have “smashed”.

  64. Cyrus

    On December 21, 2008 at 2:23 am


    Arabs divided up Iran and India. No doubt long before the British, they were raping and killing Aryans. And imposing their filthy religion on Aryan people. Terrorism,rape and murder are the true nature of Islam and this filthy semite religion. That is the simple truth. We need to over throw the tyranny of Islam and go back to Aryan roots and religion.

  65. GULF Citizen

    On December 21, 2008 at 8:04 am


    Many Persians in the Gulf conceal their Persian Identity and get offended when you call them Persian ‘Ajami’.

    Further if Persians hate arabs why are they flocking to Arab States (many hold western passports. I am of Persian blood but i call myself an ‘Arab’ now.

    THE PERSIAN CIVILISTAION IS OVER

    PERSIAN LANGUAGE INSIGNIFICANT

    THE EMPIRE WAS CRUSHED

    NO BODY CARES

    ON THE OTHER HAND ARABIC IS AN INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE (and Farsi is written in our script- )

    I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PERSIANS ONLY THOSE THAT SPREAD HATE AND ARE BIGOTS.

    LONG LIVE ISLAMIC IRAN

    Ali Husseini

  66. jonathan

    On December 22, 2008 at 6:52 pm


    this article is very retarded and flawed..
    1st. ibn sina is arab, thats a historical fact.
    2nd. iranians hate arabs, and arabs don’t hate iranians as much, for several reasons, to state a few of these resons,
    1.arabs are more rich,
    2. iranians go to arab countries to ask for jobs, arabs NEVER go to iran.
    3. iranian currency money is worthless compared to arab dinar or riyal or dirham
    4. arabs are accepted in europe and america by authorities more than iranians (yes weird but true)
    5. arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.
    6. iranians follow arabs in religious teachings, but arabs never follow iranian teachings

    the iranian problem is that they are full of hate, they dont know the meaning of peace and love, they hate arabs, they hate turks they hate armenians, they hate everybody around them, and then they claim they are arian, and the germans themselves feel disgusted for that, germans and austrians always clearly state that they are different from persians..

    iran will be crushed soon, and i am happy i will be part of that process..

    god bless america and israel !!!!

  67. PERSIAN TREATMENT OF NON ZOROASTRIANS

    On December 23, 2008 at 9:52 am


    Prior to the Arab invasion, Bukhara was a stronghold for followers of two persecuted religious movements within the Sassanian Empire,

    that is, Manicheanism and
    Nestorian Christianity.

    Persians were not as tolerant as you people make it out to be/

  68. Sham Sher

    On December 26, 2008 at 12:43 am


    The only people who would be unhappy with rise of Persia again would be Arabs. Anyway America is paving the way for a new Aryan Age. Pakistan will be destroyed by itself and the Arabs have no population to fight a new Aryan empire. If India joins in, Arabs can kiss themself good bye. Or as they say Alvida.

  69. NO BODY CARES ABOUT PERSIA NOW

    On December 26, 2008 at 10:47 am


    Many Persians in the Gulf conceal their Persian Identity and get offended when you call them Persian ‘Ajami’.

    Further if Persians hate arabs why are they flocking to Arab States (many hold western passports. I am of Persian blood but i call myself an ‘Arab’ now.

    THE PERSIAN CIVILISTAION IS OVER

    PERSIAN LANGUAGE INSIGNIFICANT

    THE EMPIRE WAS CRUSHED

    NO BODY CARES

    ON THE OTHER HAND ARABIC IS AN INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE (and Farsi is written in our script- )

    I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PERSIANS ONLY THOSE THAT SPREAD HATE AND ARE BIGOTS.

    LONG LIVE ISLAMIC IRAN

    Ali Husseini

  70. Sham Sher

    On December 28, 2008 at 1:56 pm


    Arabs have passed Indian mathematics and astronomy as their own for a thousand years. Arabic numerals the decimal are all Indian. Arabi animals are good only for theft, lies and mass murder.

  71. Neutral

    On December 31, 2008 at 6:12 am


    I am nor Arab, nor Persian, but one thing I can tell you is the people from these countries do look the same. Me personally, I can only distinguish the difference by hearing you speak Farsi or Arabic. One thing I have noticed is the diffrence in attitude. Generally speaking Arabs are a little more passive and down to earth, and Persian people a little more snotty and up tight. Before reading this article I thought you where the same people, but only because the Iranian president always talks about Islam and blowing Israel off the planet. One thing I can agree on the is the food, they both have very good food, which is somewhat similar. Just thought I should throw my two cents in the mix. Can we all just get along. Peace.

  72. Persian/Danish

    On January 16, 2009 at 6:15 am


    I totally agree with the concept even though having being brought up in a mixed home environment of Persian and Danish culture.
    Iranians are NOT Arabs…. We are Persians and that’s that!

    By calling Persians; Arabs simply shows who is knowledgeable and who isn’t. It’s the same as calling Greeks, Turks or Brazilians; Portuguese.
    This connection and confusion that has brought across about Iranians being Arabs is completely ridiculous and demonstrates laziness in human beings. The Persian identity shouldn’t be shared with something that it isn’t associated with. Just because Iran for many years has been in feud with the Arab countries or simply shares history regarding Islam and similar script writing doesn’t mean they are the same.
    Persia for many historical years has kept its identity and to this day has STILL kept it. Of course the name has been changed to ‘Iran’ but it is still the same, still the same culture, same music, same food and most importantly still the same language (Farsi) etc.
    Not enough aspects in the Persian culture is associated with the Arabic one. In fact after all these years of war and feud between many of the Middle Eastern countries, Iran was one of the few who escaped being labeled as part of the “Arab world”. Unlike countries like Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and even African countries like Algeria and Morocco have all gone under the name as “Arab countries” regardless of being situated in Africa !
    As Persians we can proudly say we conquered this and have still kept our identity separate, and because of this we should not be called Arabs.

  73. Abdallah

    On January 23, 2009 at 6:04 pm


    IRAN OR PERSIA??? YOU GUYS CANT EVEN DECIDE YOUR NAMES!
    AND BY THE WAY, YOU ARE USING ARABIC ALPHABET, SO WHO IS THE STUPID THEIF?? before arabs you used to dance around fire like stupid flies…

    ******************************
    this article is very retarded and flawed..
    1st. ibn sina is arab, thats a historical fact.
    2nd. iranians hate arabs, and arabs don’t hate iranians as much, for several reasons, to state a few of these resons,
    1.arabs are more rich,
    2. iranians go to arab countries to ask for jobs, arabs NEVER go to iran.
    3. iranian currency money is worthless compared to arab dinar or riyal or dirham
    4. arabs are accepted in europe and america by authorities more than iranians (yes weird but true)
    5. arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.
    6. iranians follow arabs in religious teachings, but arabs never follow iranian teachings

    the iranian problem is that they are full of hate, they dont know the meaning of peace and love, they hate arabs, they hate turks they hate armenians, they hate everybody around them, and then they claim they are arian, and the germans themselves feel disgusted for that, germans and austrians always clearly state that they are different from persians..
    ***********************

  74. Persian/Danish

    On January 24, 2009 at 1:34 pm


    The point of this concept isn’t to show who is better, Iranians or Arabs… who is more rich…which currency is worth more ! The point is to distinguish between the two… when in fact Iranians are NOT Arabs… and all these points people like Abdallah above are making in an attempt to “bring down” Iranians, doesn’t in fact do so cause I admit, with Iranians it is too difficult to crush their pride and integrity. We are nation who are extremely proud and embrace the smallest achievement we make. (which to many of you may seem as an exaggeration) BUT all these points being made… doesn’t degrade the Persian Nation or their Culture…. It ONLY distinguishes the DIFFERENCE between Iranians and Arabs !! How Obvious can be now? Even you people who claim Arabs are better…. This isn’t an article stating “who is better; Iranians or Arabs” … It’s trying to express that Iranians are not Arabs ! and these comments further this statement…. !!

  75. Giovanni

    On January 26, 2009 at 10:24 pm


    If you live in Iran and are Muslim You might as well be Arab, you have adopted the Arab way.

  76. Usama

    On January 26, 2009 at 10:37 pm


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  77. Soraya

    On January 28, 2009 at 11:05 am


    Excellent article, I’m not Persian but I love ancient Greek,Persian,Roman,Egyptian history more than anything. I currently live in Dubai (don’t ask me why!).
    Here is a very informative site that I found (thanks google) about Persian timeline history and the facts about the religion Zoroastrianism:

    http://mani.awardspace.us/timeline.htm

    Does anyone know where I can find similar website/webrings about Greek history timeline. Thank you!

  78. Aria

    On February 14, 2009 at 4:02 pm


    According to Bernard Lewis:

    “[Arab Muslims conquests] have been variously seen in Iran: by some as a blessing, the advent of the true faith, the end of the age of ignorance and heathenism; by others as a humiliating national defeat, the conquest and subjugation of the country by foreign invaders. Both perceptions are of course valid, depending on one’s angle of vision… Iran was indeed Islamized, but it was not Arabized. Persians remained Persians. And after an interval of silence, Iran reemerged as a separate, different and distinctive element within Islam, eventually adding a new element even to Islam itself. Culturally, politically, and most remarkable of all even religiously, the Iranian contribution to this new Islamic civilization is of immense importance. The work of Iranians can be seen in every field of cultural endeavor, including Arabic poetry, to which poets of Iranian origin composing their poems in Arabic made a very significant contribution. In a sense, Iranian Islam is a second advent of Islam itself, a new Islam sometimes referred to as Islam-i Ajam. It was this Persian Islam, rather than the original Arab Islam, that was brought to new areas and new peoples: to the Turks, first in Central Asia and then in the Middle East in the country which came to be called Turkey, and of course to India. The Ottoman Turks brought a form of Iranian civilization to the walls of Vienna…” [4]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Persia

  79. Rud

    On February 14, 2009 at 4:04 pm


    Persian (local names: Persian: فارسی IPA: [fɒːrˈsi] (Farsi) or Persian: پارسی [pɒːrˈsi] (Parsi); see Nomenclature), is an Iranian language within the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European languages. It is spoken in Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan and has official-language status in these three countries.

    The Persian language has been a medium for literary and scientific contributions to the Islamic world as well as the Western. It has had an influence on certain neighbouring languages, particularly the Turkic languages of Central Asia, Caucasus, and Anatolia as well as Urdu, Hindi, and other Indian languages. It has had a lesser influence on Arabic and other languages of Mesopotamia.

    For five centuries prior to the British colonization, Persian was widely used as a second language in the Indian subcontinent; it took prominence as the language of culture and education in several Muslim courts in South Asia and became the “official language” under the Mughal emperors. Only in 1843 did the subcontinent begin conducting business in English.[3] Evidence of Persian’s historical influence there can be seen in the extent of its influence on the languages of the Indian subcontinent, as well as the popularity that Persian literature still enjoys in that region.

  80. Mike Abuhatoum

    On March 1, 2009 at 2:25 am


    We are all proud of what and who we are and we should .I love Iranian however Arabs are and will always be the best of the best.Let us all be proud without d-respecting the others. And yes Iranian do not look like arabs even thought they wish to….:)Arabs have lots of hair and Iranians are bold…just kidding…

  81. try christianity

    On March 21, 2009 at 7:35 am


    Maybe when the Iranians and the Arabs and the Muslims accept Christ in their hearts they will stop hating each other. Jesus said the number one commandment is to love your neighbor like you love yourself. I just happened to reach this blog by mistake, but I see the hate coming from neighbors. After thousands of years of fighting, can’t you see that it still is not working under islam????
    I know that may be very offensive to some of you who read this, but it was not meant to be. I love all man and pray for all man, including the people who crashed the planes into the world trade towers on 911, (i am from the states and love the middle east). Christ said to love my enemy. By loving my enemy, they are not my enemy anymore. I don’t have to hate, even though i am hated. That is the power of Christianity. Love your neighbor, harbor no jealousy or resentment.
    I pray for the middleast to be peaceful and live in harmony, i am older now, and i hope it comes in my lifetime.
    God bless you all

  82. a persian CHRISTiAN

    On March 23, 2009 at 11:27 pm


    I am a Christian iranian! I am not arabic, my brother has blue eyes and my mother has green. I am not dark.I have brown eyes and curly brown hair and I am content and proud of the fact that i am a young beautiful iranian girl. And I am not muslim, I have no problem with an islamic person, but I do have a problem with the inconsistencies and violence within the religon itself, i dont look down upon its followers because my father used to be islamic and I can see where they are coming from, but honestly it is an arabic religon and I am not arabic, I feel that many people of the islamic faith have a blind faith, because they never had the choice to see what else is out their, to test and choice for themselves. it was force fed to them. and I am not muslim and it bothers me when people learn I am persian and assume that is arabic, because I am not. their are many more persian christians then people think.

  83. ARMIN

    On March 26, 2009 at 11:54 pm


    Im half greek half persians, and I find that Persians both physically and culturally differ from Arabs. I find quit a
    lot of similarities between my mother side (greek) and my
    fathers side (persian). As well as some of our Armenian family.
    I am very proud of my Persian heritage and have looked deeply into it. Arabs are filthy barbaric animals, who have stolen and destoryed many founding of Persian culture. Long live Persians and Greeks!!! ARYAN NATION BABYYYY!

  84. Humorous comments

    On March 28, 2009 at 4:58 am


    #8 by spiritoftheages, Dec 24, 2007
    They speak and live as Arabs not as their original ant sisters (ancestors???).
    #73 by Abdallah, Jan 23, 2009
    before arabs you used to dance around fire like stupid flies…

  85. Proud of heritage

    On March 28, 2009 at 5:38 am


    What is with being proud of something that your forefathers achieved or you have inherited ( be it genetic or memetic )? I think what counts is what you have achieved.

    In any case, even if we do agree that we have a set of civilizations that are competing for their share of human mind & soul, western civilization seem to be on the rise for last 500 years

    All present form of governance in every major civilization has come from western thought : socialism, capitalism, communism , modern democracy. Except may be Islamic jurisprudence and governance( Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.)

    In the area of Science & technology, western method of seeking truth in empirical way has won hands down. Look around us.

    people are proud of heritage because it allows them to establish and defines one’s identity. And I don’t see why should one restrict oneself, in this age and time, to one identity unless you are butt lazy.

    Mohamed’s fundamental contribution to religious thought is: ‘All men are equal’ and try to build a society around this idea. This was a brilliant insight and He was way ahead of his age and time ( before industrialization, before French/British/American revolution…). His religious genius will be recognized for thousands of years from now for this idea.

  86. funny stuff here

    On April 20, 2009 at 1:42 am


    There is so much dumb stuff here : “you can’t even decide your name” ,”Farsi uses Arabic Alphabet”, “Ibn Sina Was Arab”, “Persians hate Arabs because they are rich”. Basically tells you about Arab culture which used to be about burning books and libraries and their lack of education …till the Persians thought them the advantages of science. Come on man can you Arab people at least study the subject…Doesn’t that Islam of yours tell you come in peace and love? Or does It say KILL PERSIANS AND THEIR CULTURE AND HATE THEM FOREVER…It is not gonna happen my Arab brothers a lot of people tried but we still here.
    P.S. And please get some education in history because Arabic history books seem to be really funky and twisted. Just use some credited universities around the world not Arab hate propaganda!!!

  87. masselis

    On April 25, 2009 at 12:55 pm


    ******************************
    this article is very retarded and flawed..
    1st. ibn sina is arab, thats a historical fact.
    2nd. iranians hate arabs, and arabs don’t hate iranians as much, for several reasons, to state a few of these resons,
    1.arabs are more rich,
    2. iranians go to arab countries to ask for jobs, arabs NEVER go to iran.
    3. iranian currency money is worthless compared to arab dinar or riyal or dirham
    4. arabs are accepted in europe and america by authorities more than iranians (yes weird but true)
    5. arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.
    6. iranians follow arabs in religious teachings, but arabs never follow iranian teachings

    the iranian problem is that they are full of hate, they dont know the meaning of peace and love, they hate arabs, they hate turks they hate armenians, they hate everybeody around them, and then they claim they are arian, and the germans themselves feel disgusted for that, germans and austrians always clearly state that they are different from persians..
    ***********************

    This is very true! I lived in the Middle-east and I noticed how Arabs don’t really hate/like/dislike persians. They simply don’t really care. While, persians are busy figuring out ways to hate Arabs! Its pretty Ironic! and by the way, Persians DON’T look like ITALIANS! not even close! In fact many Arabs (especially those in Mediterranean countries) are close to us (Italians and Greeks) in many things :)

  88. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On April 26, 2009 at 9:31 am


    Some of you commenting here totally miss the point of this article. It is not about which ethnic group is better and it is not about hate. As for Ibn Sina, most historic books in the world state it as fact that he was Persian. He wrote in Arabic, but his native tounge was Persian.

  89. Alright

    On May 13, 2009 at 10:52 pm


    Your history is way off. For close to 2000 years, the Persians subjugated the Arabs by conquering them, their lands, and their culture. These Persian Emperors may be seen as heros in Persian-centric circles, but they are not at all seen favorably in Arab circles. When Islam was born, Umar (the Caliph) had no intention of conquering Persia. But the expansionist Persians kept attacking Iraq. The Arabs finally had enough (who could blame them). They invaded all of Persia because they knew that the Persians had demonstrated that they were not interested in peace. Under Ummayid Caliphate rule, only 10% of the Persian population converted. Conversion was in fact discouraged because the Arab governors generated a lot of revenue from the taxes placed on non-muslims. Indeed, there were social/financial advantages to converting for some Persian nobility. The bulk of the Iranian population didn\’t actually start converting until their own Persian leaders became muslim during Abbasid Caliphate dynasty 200 years later. The Abbasids were backed by Persian muslim support and had overthrown the Ummayid. The fact that their own Persian leaders were now practicing Islam, it gave even more legitimacy to the Islamic faith in Persians eyes. By the 11th century, 80% of Persia was muslim. These Persian muslims unfortunately started to persecute the remaining Zoroastrians, who converted under pressure or fled for Central Asia.

    btw, my Persian friends are proud of their Islamic faith. Islam has been in Persia for more than 1000 years. Its a huge part of their culture (their words).

  90. Jonathan

    On May 20, 2009 at 2:03 am


    i state this again
    this article is very retarded and flawed..
    1st. ibn sina is arab, thats a historical fact.
    2nd. iranians hate arabs, and arabs don’t hate iranians as much, for several reasons, to state a few of these resons,
    1.arabs are more rich,
    2. iranians go to arab countries to ask for jobs, arabs NEVER go to iran.
    3. iranian currency money is worthless compared to arab dinar or riyal or dirham
    4. arabs are accepted in europe and america by authorities more than iranians (yes weird but true)
    5. arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.
    6. iranians follow arabs in religious teachings, but arabs never follow iranian teachings
    7. the iranian language which is Farsi, has more than 50% of its words borrowed from arabic !!!
    the even borrowed the letters drawing !
    8. iran’s population is around 78 million, around 49% of that are mixed races of Azerbaijani, arabs, afghans, kurds, and others, while persians make about 51% !!!!! so persians are about half of iran ONLY !!! lol
    persians are not more than 40 million, while arabs, europeans, americans, are more than 300 million each !!

    the iranian problem is that they are full of hate, they dont know the meaning of peace and love, they hate arabs, they hate turks they hate armenians, they hate greeks, they hate everybody around them, and then they claim they are arian, and the germans themselves feel disgusted for that, germans and austrians always clearly state that they are different from persians..

    * note worth mentioning: as we know, every great culture and civilization MUST have its OWN letter drawing of the alphabet, for example, chinese, koreans, greeks, japanese, arabs, indians, caucasians all have their own unique alphabet letter drawing…
    but iranians don’t ! they borrow it from the arabic language !!
    so why do you claim to have a great history ?? if you had great history then you’d have you’re own unique letter drawing !!!
    iran will be crushed soon, and i am happy i will be part of that process..
    iranians need to STFU !
    god bless america and israel !!!!

  91. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On May 25, 2009 at 11:50 am


    Jonathan, you proved to us that if someone has a problem with hate, it is you…most Iranians I know DO NOT HATE Arabs, they just don’t like to be put down and have others not recognize thier contribution to civilization and pass some of their achievements as their own, they have a great culture, one of the most tolerant I know of; and mind you most Iranians are fed up with the present fanatical regime more than you are.

  92. cha0s_619

    On May 27, 2009 at 3:21 am


    #66 Jonathan get a brain.

    “5. arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.”

    Those civilizations you mention are not Arab. Ancient egypt was an african civilazation before it was conquered by alexander the great then by greece, rome and finaly by the islamic empire. So was the case with babylon, mesopotamia etc. Arabs are from Arabia – ie present day Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain etc. Places like Egypt, “Palestine”, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, North Africa were not arabic. They became so due to conquest. The only notable arabic civilazation there was is the islamic empire.

    I do agree with you on the bit “God bless America & Israel”

    I do have to also back up what Edyta said. Most Iranians I’ve met (& I’ve met quite a few) detest Ahmadinejad and his regime

  93. A Proud Persian

    On June 18, 2009 at 11:57 pm


    This article is absolutely true. I am Persian (proud of it) and I do not consider myself as an Arab. Actually it’s more of an insult for a Persian to be called Arab. OUr history, culture, and reputations to the world don’t compare with the Arabs. Arabs invaded the rich Iran in the battle of Qadissiya and the effect of it still remains to this day in Iran. After 1400 years we are still trying to get back to our own identity and if only we get rid of this tyrant regime in Iran, we will see the democratic and free Iran that has been the jewl of the world in ancient times.

  94. Hakan

    On June 19, 2009 at 10:55 pm


    To the Persian poster who accused me of being a “typical Turk” and trying to portray Iran as an Arab country or whatever. Grow up. I know Iran is not an Arab country and I actually like Iran and there are many similarities between Iran and Turkey.

    I just said that “some Persians look like Arabs but not all”. Do you not agree? Yes, Turks and Iranians are pretty similar, but Iranians are generally darker than Turks. And Turks are generally darker than Greeks etc.. it has nothing to do with bad intention or hatred, it’s the truth.

  95. Hakan

    On June 19, 2009 at 10:58 pm


    Also, I have nothing against Arabs. Arabic culture, music, food, poetry etc. is simply amazing!! But I do dislike the “culture of violence” in the Arabic world. Actually, this culture of violence is arguably present in most Muslim countries. We must get rid of this.

  96. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On June 22, 2009 at 2:41 pm


    That’s right, Hakan. I also like Arabic food, music, and people and so do many Iranians I know do so as well. It is this “culture of violence” that creates hatred among the peoples in Middle East. My heart is with Iranians in Iran who are right now risking their very lives to change that. May God be with them!

  97. m.k

    On July 14, 2009 at 10:14 am


    thanks to the aouther, but i have say that, most iranins hate arabs because when iranian had a great empire arabs were nomadic people leaving in the desert of arabia, live buring their girls,
    but iranians were a great nation, and under the rule of persians no nation lost it’s culture and language but arabs did by force and the funniest thing is that arabs are trying to change the name of the persian gulf into arabian gulf so iranians has right to hate arabs.
    as soon as iranins change this arabic regime in iran they will open the embessy of isreal in tehran the capital of iran and they show arabs that who is a real civelized nation.

  98. Michael

    On July 18, 2009 at 1:05 pm


    to fellow Americans who say Iranins are same as Arabs:
    Americans are same as canadians!
    and personaly i don’t care about color of people brown, dark or white… we are all people, i suppose . we have no choice over our skin nobody could have chose to be either dark or white so it’s no big deal tell me what you have accomplished not what you’ve inherited it makes more sense to me.

  99. Hakan

    On July 19, 2009 at 1:00 am


    Jonathan said:

    “arabs have mesopotamia, sumer, babylon, and ancient egypt, which is very well known to be more huge and better and older than the so-called persian empire.”

    You are a hateful person. Iran is a great nation and ancient civilization that has contributed so much to human civilization. Much more than Arabs and Turks. I’m a Turk myself. But I’m not stupid, I know the facts..

  100. serp

    On August 11, 2009 at 10:34 am


    hi i am half persian and half french, i have a german jewsh girl friend, one we went to iran to meet my family members and my grand mom, that was cool and iranians showed us that inspite of what their gavernment says, they have no peroblems with jewsh and there are many jewsh livig in (isfahan) city too. central persia.
    i believe that iran – turkey – and israel – must be toghether against arabs who are stealing their identity. arabs hate persians and jewsh and turks.
    bye.

  101. MoroccanAthiestMuslim

    On August 11, 2009 at 11:40 am


    Most of the Persians here are non-muslims so their hatred is expected and comes as no suprise. Those real moslem Iranians know that there ancestors had a hand in creating Islam, since its inception with the assistance of Salman of Fars. Persians should preserve their uniqueness by all means, for their sake and that of the Middle East. I recognise Persian culture as a counterweight to the Saudi/Yemen bedouin approach to life, which warrants disgust and rejection. Its time to reinvent the Middle East, the Caliphate has crumbled but it makes no sense to live in its rubble. Oh yeah, I would not be effected if I was mistaken for being Irooni.

  102. mehrdad

    On August 26, 2009 at 11:18 am


    you are wrong( moroccan) i am a psrsian and a muslim, first i am persian and then a muslim nd i hate arabs.
    you are not persian so please do not speak on our behalf.
    and if you are persian!!! you re a disgrace to all persians.
    we have the pride of our impereal days. remember: do not speak about iran when you have never been here, you lier.

  103. MUSLIM FIRST THEN PERSIAN

    On August 29, 2009 at 2:12 am


    if you are a real muslim you put your religion before your country

    thats why everyone hates palestinians because they love palestine more than islam

  104. LebaneseGuy

    On September 7, 2009 at 9:55 am


    Umm, I’m Lebanese and I consider myself to be Arab, but at the same time I dont forget that the Phoenicians are my as well. We Lebanese have more than one ancestor, so next time please dont speak on my behalf.

    If people who commented on here admit to hating Arabs then that just makes you racist, so dont pretend you’re more civilised or advanced if you obviously have a backward mentality with your racist views, because you’re not.

  105. mehrdad

    On September 15, 2009 at 2:40 am


    i am a Persian and i do not consider Egyptians and Lebanese as Arabs because Egyptians and Lebanese have an ancient identity, they must be proud of that . Arabs changed their languages by force and took their identity. but they could not do the same to Persians.
    we speak Persian and we have right to hate Arabs, do you know why? they destroyed our country, they invaded Persian empire like desperate hunters looking for prey.
    they burnt our libraries and our history. they forced their nomadic life style into roman and Persian empires.
    when we had a great empire, Arabs used to sleep on the sands of Arabian deserts and eating lizards. they make me sick. ARABS SHOULD NOT FORGET WHO THEY WERE.

  106. sterotwithlove

    On October 6, 2009 at 4:58 pm


    Most of the dumb comments here are from the Aryans loool

  107. Soli

    On November 2, 2009 at 9:13 pm


  108. cindy

    On November 23, 2009 at 4:52 pm


    So your Aryan and Muslim because the sword was on your neck, that makes you a Muslim Aryan. But isn’t you Islamic Shiite religion all about being related to Mohammed who happens to be an arab? So which is it, you have to choose Aryan or Arab, maybe you can be Aryan on euro Sundays, and arab on Semite Tuesdays. What an opportunist world we live in don’t you agree?

  109. MIKEHONCHO

    On December 11, 2009 at 10:42 pm


    Persians don’t look like italians or greeks most greek and iti’s have arab in them,they are freaking hairy like bigfoot,maybe northern italy has european looking but greeks look like sand nigs.90 % of Persians I met have the long face,straight nose and slender bodies.Yeah they have black hair but the same body and head features of northern europeans.Persians have the brains of europeans unlike italy and greece they are like there ancestors the arabs, infighting both greece and italy only been a country for 100 yrs but rest of the time tribal infighting like saudi arabia.Plus Iran would kick the sh_t out of greece and italy together if they went to war and thats with sanctions from US

  110. mehrdad

    On December 17, 2009 at 11:03 am


    it is not about if persians look like arabs or not , if it is so malaysians are japonies, that is funy. and korians are chinies, persians are not arabs this is what matters. as chanies are not korians.

  111. Syed Saboor

    On December 17, 2009 at 6:04 pm


    NOw, let me interject here and give my two cents in. I am Indian, with most of my ancestry hailing from Afghanistan. In my school days, everybody thought I was Arab, and I felt deeply insulted, because I am not Arab, and plus, I do not think I look anything like an Arab. But you know how stupid your average American is. They think we all look alike, supposedly, when any one of us can tell who is Arab, Turkish, Afghani, IRanian, North Indian, South Indian, etc.. And yes, I agree Iranians are not Arabs and most Iranians I have seen look nothing like Arabs. I can tell Arabs and Iranians miles away. And as for the reply of the Turkish gentleman, I would disagree, most Iranians I have seen are very white. The only dark iranians are the ones along the Persian gulf, especially Bandar Abbas. But you are right we are equal and we are all human beings at the end of the day. I am not racist; in fact, I have a masters degree in African history. But I believe we have a right to preserve our culture and maintain our identity–healthly nationalism.

  112. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On December 18, 2009 at 4:48 pm


    That’s right, Syed, that was the point I wanted to make.

  113. syed saboor

    On December 19, 2009 at 12:04 am


    Also, I wanted to reply to the Turk again. Take a look at the Kurds, yes, related to the persians. many Kurds have blond hair and blue eyes. Why, because like the Iranians they are originally Aryans. Even if you go to the far north of my country, India, many Kashmiris have blue eyes and fair skin. As do the pathans of Pakistan. People think all Pakistanis and Indians are dark, just everybody thinks everybody in the Middle East are arabs. Pity, the stupidity of people nowadays.

  114. non-bathing apes

    On December 27, 2009 at 11:42 am


    LOL..i just LOLed. Iranian always pround of their culture but that was thooooooooooosand years ago. Now theyre nowhere. so shutup and please behave

  115. mehrdad

    On December 28, 2009 at 4:14 am


    non-bathing apes,,,,,,, just like your name,,,,lol,,,, perhaps you are an arab,,,, that is right we are proude of our glories days in thoooooousends of years ago, that is nice to have a long history, this year is going to be the year 2570 of iranian calendery and if you think we are nothing now, just wait to see the rise of the persian empire again, soon we over throw the current regim in iran and we rise again and the history always shows our glory, not like you arabs, who were rubbing your asses on the sands of arabia,,,, LOL,,,, you are nothing more than some flees.
    LONG LIVE THE GREAT PERSIAN EMPIRE.

  116. Bushehri

    On January 7, 2010 at 1:54 am


    Persians get insulted by being called Arabs, but funny enough they descriminate against people within their own nation calling them “khoozestani arab” and so on. they descriminate against the southern iranians who have darker skin and speak a different dialect of farsi. I know this because I am southern iranian and I have travelled to Tehran and Mashhad and seen for myself.

  117. syed saboor

    On January 7, 2010 at 1:12 pm


    So, big deal. I am from India, and the Northern Indians, who have lighter complexions, discriminate against the Southern Indians, who being Dravidian are considerably darker skinned as well. Northern Italians, who are lighter skinned, discriminate against Southern Italians, because of their darker color.

  118. Lebanese Mann and Proud!

    On January 8, 2010 at 6:08 am


    Im Lebanese and i consider my self white and oriental at the same time,to be honest,ALL Greeks i know are dark and they have african curly hair anyways.. the guy who posted
    “We Greeks dont accept you Iranians as europeans”
    You Greeks are of ethiopien and phoenician decent..and a little bit mixed with the old hellenic empire..pls Greeks in my eyes your also NOT European! Because im in Germany since 1989 i know how nordic People look like! And Persians are aryans yes thats true,but if you ask me they are also middle eastern looking,or sometimes indian looking..but anyways it was a admixture because Arabs invaded Persia ..just like lebanon,Syria who where phoenicians assyrians etc..know we are arabs yes! But i hate Greeks sometimes,because they canot see how dark they are with their amazig hair curly afro hair lol

  119. Sanjay

    On January 8, 2010 at 7:47 am


    Persians are not Arabs because they are definitely Indians. Persians are as Indian as any Gujarati. They love their Indian faces. Salom, you fellow Indians; from your jet-black brother in Tamil Nadu.

  120. Bushehri

    On January 8, 2010 at 8:03 am


    syed saboor if your comment was a reply to mine then let me tell you this, I take no offense in being called an arab, heck, I actually have my respect for arab people, I have many arab friends as well, my point was, if persians wish not to be called arabs, then perhaps they should start by not calling their darker brothers Arab.

    Arab people are not black or dark anyway, the average lebanese or syrian arab is way more lighter than the average persian.

    And MIKEHONCHO, you’re saying greeks are hairy? obviously you never met a persian, persians are probably one of the hairiest people in the world.

  121. syed saboor

    On January 8, 2010 at 5:13 pm


    My comment was, in general, Bushehri. And unfortunately, there is racism everywhere in the world, even in the same country, among the same people. In India, we have this color complex, which has been going on for centuries. Just look at those Greek and Italian looking Bollywood stars for further clarification. I am not being anti-Arab or anit-anything. But just am simply trying to put everything in an academic frame of mind. And yes, many Syrian and Lebanese Arabs are very white as well. But they are not really Arabs, but admixtures of Armenians, Circassians, Chechens, and other Causasion peoples or just assimilated communities of the aforementioned groups.

  122. mehrdad

    On January 12, 2010 at 5:34 am


    you are all some fools, the topic is not about who is dark or who is white, it says persians are not arabs, and that is right,,,,, that was all, persians speak persian language and they have persian calture, that is all
    that is all
    that is all
    that is all you fools.

  123. pary

    On January 13, 2010 at 12:58 am


    Some people just DONT GET IT
    Persians are Persians and nothing else and they get insulted by you guys grouping them into different countries cant you just tell that India, Iraq, Pakistan and iran are SEPERATE countries?? and a persons skill color doesnt necessarily tell what race you have

  124. Whatever

    On January 18, 2010 at 5:36 pm


    A lot of ppl seem that they lack knowledge in history…first Iraq is the cradle of civilization….

    And there were plenty of empires before the Persian empire. I guess empires fall and rise.

    Another thing, there is nothing wrong with a Bedu life style, in the matter of fact , it proves human ability to live a sustainable life under harsh climate.

    Also, the origin of real Arabs is Yemen, and they too have ancient history, in the matter of fact,many of the irrigation techniques were followed by Persians are from the Yemenites!

    Also, we Arabs do not give a damn , I just find you ppl hateful. And if you Persians have tried Islam and you do not like it, then change it…it is not any of our business.

    Also, most Arab countries do not force women to wear Hijab….Tunis actually they are not allowed the freedom to wear it.

    So do not generlize……..and leave us alone…It is funny, I never had any negative feelings toward Iranians, but the more I read the net, the more disgusted I feel!

    Honestly, the state of your country at the moment is NOT our fault….how come Turkey, as a non Arab Muslim state is doing Ok!

    Do not blame us!!! Move ON!!!

  125. syed saboor

    On January 30, 2010 at 1:17 am


    Pary, you are right about color. Many Italians can be darker then your average Syrian or Turk. Skin color does not make race, but it is a fact that the people of Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Northern India are genetically more similar, then Arabs and iranians or Turks and Arabs!

  126. michonand

    On January 31, 2010 at 7:05 am


    Simply the best! Better than all the rest! Better than anyone, anyone I’ve ever met!

  127. edsheik

    On February 3, 2010 at 5:39 pm


    persians have an inferiroty complex, low self esteem and and can be compulsive liars. persians make up facts and distort history. especially when it comes to the so called arab invasion which was actually a war fought in iraq, where arabs had 20,000 soldiers vs 150,000 persians. the persians were defeated easily in matter of days. persians dont want to accept this fact, they call it an invasion something of a surprise attack genges khan style, which is a LIE. iran dident become majority muslim untill the 10th century 300 years after the battle and fall your so called empire. iranians converted on their own for many reaons, one to gain access to government, to aqcuire wealth, to serve in the military ect. arabs dident want converts early on, they saw islam as only being for arabs. they simply wanted an empire and land just like any other roup of people.

    persians brag about “cyrus freeing the jews” from slavery, jews under arab moors in spain flourished, the greatest jewish thinker and philosopher of all time was an arab jew. the rambam known as mainmonades, countless jewish scientist and schollars studied alongside arabs and muslims under islamic rule, how many jewish schollars and sceintist existed under the zorastrian persian rule? someone name me a handfull please.

    how many none persians thinkers, schollars, philosophers existed in persia before the empire fell to the arabs? come on persians lets see what you have to say, name me some none persian none zorastrians who were allowed to study and flourish under your rule.

    persian nationalist are racist and biggoted exiled rejects. your own people threw out of iran like last weeks garabe. arabs and muslims after islam was founded took science and math to another level, no cares about your empire or your cyrus, no one knows anything about. you live in your own world, you make up things, you claim to have invented everything which is an outright lie. Iraq is a much older civilization than yours, yemen is a much older civilization then yours. jews have lived with arabs in yemen for 3000 years, 500 before your so called cyrus freed them.

    go ahead and convert to your fire worshipping ways, arabs dont give a damn about your cluture and religion. we could care less if your arab or not, just shut the hell up your annyoing.

  128. bukharia

    On February 8, 2010 at 4:02 pm


    go edsheik go! damn right.

  129. Non-Goyim

    On February 23, 2010 at 7:31 am


    Lets face it folks. Persians were Zoasterians and many have semite jew blood from after the jews were freed from the babylonians and the jews came to live in now day Iran. Most Iranians I know despise Islam, because it was forced on the Persians. Almost everyone on the planet is worshipping a Persian God, different races just put a different name on the cake. Every Christian in America will one day bow down, once again, to the great Ahura Mazda while he lets Ahriman and Mithra take out the “gentiles” so to say. The bible was written by Ezra a Persian Jew. And black people will always be in hot water after that Yemen negro blow off his penis. At least he won’t be using it to rape white women like most blacks!

  130. Robert

    On February 28, 2010 at 2:58 am


    So Persians have let Arabs take over their country, by Adopting the Arab religious customs. So has Indonesia.

  131. syed saboor

    On February 28, 2010 at 4:46 am


    First of all, I want to reiterate their is no hatred or animosity directed towards anybody–at least from my side. As for Swedes and Germans, while it is true modern-day Persians are not physically the same as modern-day Northern Europeans. Most of the Persians I have come across, can easily pass for modern-day Southern Europeans. And furthermore, I do not want to say this over and over again, but most modern-day Iranians are physically nothing like Arabs, case in point!

  132. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On March 11, 2010 at 2:50 pm


    First, I would like to thank all of you for sharing your thoughts with me and all readers on this subject, and while I want to give everyone freedom to express their opinions even if I personally don’t agree with them; I cannot tolerate repeated venting and insulting of others. Therefore, I will have to remove posts of people who do that.

  133. Amir

    On March 19, 2010 at 9:29 pm


    I am iranian But idont know why i love arabs and arabic culture even more than our culture.iranian culture is tied to arab culture.persians are mixed with arabs and turks.and even with romans in some part of south west in iran.in the case that iran has been conquered frequently i think it is also true about all nations.i am not proud of being persian or being distinct from arabs because this is not true.
    i think these ideas about arabs is very very distructiv for us and unfortunately it exists.i also must say that i am ashamed when a persian or iranian says that he or she is proud of not being arab.realy it is a shame.(to all arabs : i am very sorry) i have nothing else to say

  134. Syed Saboor

    On March 21, 2010 at 4:58 am


    It is destructive to say ill will against a certain race; for instance, I hate Black people or anyother race of people. However, it is important for people to never loose sight of who they are as a race and people. Amir, you may have a fondness for things Arabic, but I have a fondness for things Turkish and Armenian, but I am not Armenian or Turkish. It does not mean I loose sight of my own culture and language (hindi and Urdu) and go adopt another language, although learning other languages has no harm in it.

  135. Amir

    On March 22, 2010 at 7:11 am


    i think nationalism is not a wright for people of a nation and a race unless it is under some kind of other ideology that makes the people to appretiate wrights for others specially their neighbours.
    pure nationalism is very dangerous and can be seen in some governments in mideast.it doesnt point to a good result.
    hate ties hands and foots of people and locks their mind
    and can be produced by many things.it can also
    be produced by treats that make people loose their common and normal faith in religion.i think a normal faith in religion can be very benefitial against that pure nationalism.it is good for a nation to belive in their civilization to live happy and build their country and i think every nation have a culture which is very useful for living happy.wrong use of religion results in people loosing their normal faith which does not result in peace.
    other normal idiologies also i think if based on normal and peacefull thoghts can be good and peacefull.but nationalism must be under the control of other good ideologies.
    No pure nationalism.
    i must add that azaries in iran are not this much.
    if u loock at the map of iran u can see that kerman or yazd or isfahan or khorasan or fars each are as big as whole azari cities in north west of iran.and i must also add that turks and azaries in iran are not generally white people.some of them
    have tatar genes in them and are yellow.also many of them are
    not tall at all because of that genes.

  136. syed saboor

    On March 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm


    I hope I do not offend you in saying, Amir, most of the Azeris I have seen look pretty “white” to me. Actually, one of my close friends is Azeri, and his features and complexion are as “Aryan” as they get. but that aside, I want to get back to this discussion of nationalism. I think it is important to discuss. In my country, the Hindu nationalists like many Iranians also talk about Aryanism. Aryans colonized and settled in the northern half of the Indian subcontinent thousands of years ago. No, of course, now it is a discernible fact that Indians are not racially pure in any sense. The original Aryans who invaded India have since then become quite mixed with the aborginal Dravidian populations of India. But that note aside, Hindu nationalists in India still continue to claim Aryan descent for everybody in India. But the real crux of the matter is not so much race, but from what I have seen among all varieties of nationalism, whether it is Hindu, White, Black, or any other nationalism is a question of identity and marking out one’s place in the world, especially in terms of territorial aquistion and integrity. Malcolm X, himself, was not racially pure African, but nonetheless he expoused Black nationalism, much of it due to his initial hatred of blacks, but later on it became a symbol, really, of identity in terms of the human species. Again, marking off what he was in relation to everybody else. One can say the same for those who identify with Arab nationalism or Basque or even Kurdish nationalism. not that I hate you concept, but this is what I am in relation to you and everybody else concept.

  137. syed saboor

    On March 22, 2010 at 9:54 pm


    “initial hatred of whites,” my mistake.

  138. Amir

    On March 23, 2010 at 5:15 pm


    OK.
    I want to tell u that this type of self identification doesnt work.
    self identification when done by culture is the thing that it is
    not going to be broken easily.
    if you look at history from aincient times to now everywhere
    this was the source of power.
    i am not proud of what is in iran because the culture is broken.
    and it must be broken because of many things.

    _the greate appritiation to the communism occured in the last many decades.
    those iranians did this have the bloody hand in braking iran.

    _the historical reasons.

    _now the rejection of “(normal and peacefull) belive in the religion which s tied with iranian culture in some complicated ways” from iranian people
    and this feeds the hate which can always naturaly grow.
    { the last is because of wrong use of religion
    also “comunism did not capture iran but invaded it and influenced it”
    also lack of real analyzers and knowlegus men.}

    the power of last case is going to be lost in iran and iranian culture .
    the important thing is that this power was not a bloody power.

    this lack of the culture i mentioned which is “the soft power
    results in ability to live strong and happy and build the
    basics of hard power and grow it” which is going to be lost
    is now filled with the the worshiping of white skin.

    ___the hatred to white skin can be argued and thought about to be a mistake by many people.

    but in upper cities in map the case is different.
    i have been in one of those “upper in map” cities in iran(tabriz)
    for several monthes and i saw clearly some kind of
    {bloody love to white skin and aryan race and violence to others}
    there some of minds are totally busy to the idea that
    “am i really a glorious and nobel aryan how is the way i am”
    clearly this idea results in hate to their race if they are not
    realy aryans and they would think that if they are not so
    they are the lower race!
    this bloody love and violence i have seen is generally different from what u wrote.
    conquered minds and the lack of culture power.

    i think this is the story of the upper cities in asia.
    what would someone think for himself when seeing this?
    let the love for white skin be for the uper city citizens.

  139. What are Persians/Iranians?

    On March 31, 2010 at 2:55 am


    Ok, first of all Persians/Iranians were never Nordic looking people, if they’re related to any Europeans at all it’s to the Mediterranean people and not the Germanic’s or Anglo’s, this is a myth created by the nazis. Aryan isn’t associated to any race, it just means a noble people, referring to the Persian Iranians as being honorable and noble people.

    Secondly, Iranians/Persians aren’t mixed with Arabs, get your facts straight. We ruled over Arabs much longer than they ruled over our land (The sassanian, parthian and the achemanid Persian dynasties) so wouldn’t it make more sense that they have more Persian blood in them than the other way around?

    Just go check the ancient statues of ancient Persians and compare them to an Average Iranian today and you’ll see that we still have the same facial features as back then.

    Hope I could help

    From a Iranian baradar :)

  140. Amir

    On April 2, 2010 at 6:54 pm


    is the word (aria) an Aryan word?mediteranian word.me myself i dont know.
    this word is repeated in takht_e_jamshid and Shahname as the race of persians.
    also there is some simiularities in languages.
    specialy many words in english and persian for one who knows farsi feels that there is same roots for them.
    maybe nazi scientists who where nazies with their ideas about aryans (those blond and big germans and bitish people) had some politics to make a myth for a Qajar ruled country.but i am not sure.maybe the roots were aryan.afterall it is not so important.
    there is a problem with iranian identity now that never can be solved in this way.the aryan race is not a part of iranian persian historical culture and civilization .this culture has its own basics and structure and is ill and it will find its way.

  141. persian boy

    On April 9, 2010 at 5:23 am


    Why I hate arabs and small countries around the persian gulf?The answer is:because they steal our erudites and our gulf name for example in one asian games in qatar or u.a.e they said abu raihan biruni is a arab erudite!it is true the name is arabic but it isn\’t mean he was arab.before islam,they have not ANY civilization but that time iranian have human rights law !Iranian were first people in the world that docile horse. \’\'Razi\’\’ decipher alcohol.and so… I Think arabs ENVY persians/iranians. I get MAD if someone tell me arab!!!
    iranians love all countries and cultures but arabs make rancor between us(persians and arabs).we have many great kings like cyrus that freed jews from babel jails and dariush that dig suez channel(in egypt)we have very long history like italia,greece and egypt but no one know this… excuse me,my language is not very good.

  142. persian boy-2

    On April 10, 2010 at 7:06 am


    ibn e sina IS NOT ARAB. HIS NAME IS arabic but his persian.my name is shahab that is arabic but i am not arab.razi,abu raihan birooni,and many of persian erudites have arabic name.jonathan,iranians have valentine ib 500 B.C! they called spandar mazgan.we have had mother day but arabs killed they girls.now what cilivization is better?arabs had not any cilivization and iranians know this very very well.jonathan how you can say iranians don t know what\’s love?irans politcs is wrong and many of iranian don\’t like politcs of islamic republic. iranian goes to arab countries for job because the goverment is not good.we don\’t hate u.s and israel some of people and racism hate israel and us.

    when we have human rights law arabs eats lizards!!

  143. persian boy-3

    On April 10, 2010 at 7:27 am


    jonathan you make me laugh.your say like no.5 is very baseless.babylon was one of iran states.libia,egypt,iraq,india.south of russia small countries around PERSIAN gulf was iran’s states.

    you can add me in tahoo messenger:
    shahabsang_tnt and get your answer about iran and iran’s great history

  144. Hasan

    On April 15, 2010 at 2:04 am


    I must say I kind of lost of my respect for Persians when I learned that they place their culture, heritage above anything else, even Islam.

    No doubt they have a rich history/culture that is admirable and is something to be proud of. I respect that. But while pride is a good thing to have, it can certainly become dangerous.

    No race is superior to another, no colour is superior over another, an-Arab in not superior over a non-Arab and vice versa. Centuries ago, a great man spread the message of equality and broherhood and lead people out of ignorance.

    I must say I am proud of something. Proud of not having a sense of ‘pride’ in myself for my colour, ethnicity, language, nation or whatever. I thank god almighty for not having this ‘poison’ in my heart. We will be judged for our deeds and actions and I don’t really think Arabs or Persians will get extra points for their ethnicity. Don’t forget that we all return to the soil, no matter who we are. And that is the ultimate reality. Challenge that if you can.

    Throw that Arab, Persian…. what ever pride you have out of the window. People do respect and will respect your culture/history/tradition. You don’t have to be ‘proud’ to earn that, trust me. We are too civilized and cultured to be debating on this historical pride thing. I believe that era ended 1400 years ago.

    With due respect to all beautiful cultures and races and civilizations and most importantly humanity.

    peace be upon you.

  145. unknown

    On April 15, 2010 at 8:28 am


    ARABS ENVY PERSIANS IT’S SO CLEAR

  146. why?

    On April 15, 2010 at 8:36 am


    oh god,why,why these wild arabs invasion to our beautiful empire?why they burn our libraries and kill our people?arabs can not understand mean of \’\'humanity\’\’

  147. Syed Saboor

    On April 15, 2010 at 9:01 am


    I think from all the conversations and discussions we had about this topic, it is pretty much agreed by many of us, that we should just remain apart.

  148. Amir

    On April 18, 2010 at 4:10 pm


    germans invaded russia .russia defended and overcame germany and rulled over some part of it for years.
    mongols attaked iran much worse than arabs.they also attaked china russia indeed they rulled over china.and india.arabs rulled over turks as they rulled over persians.turks rulled over arabs in otoman period.germans or britain rulled over africans in south africa.but all of the conqured people found out their point of weakness and after a time fought for being independent.
    there is a problem somewhere in our life style and ideas but this is not resonable to think that arab invasion to iran is the problem.it was terrible but it is not the problem.
    as they wrote maybe some of them even didnt hear about this story.and didnt waste their time.
    some parts of ideas about us as persians and iranians must be revised.
    one important point about our past and aincient history is ‘as i understood’ the fact that religion had an important and vital role in uniting iranians (((i mean persians))) in all aspects of their life in such region with turks in northeast and arabs in southwest and much more dangerous romans in that time.also to gain the ability to controle the minioritis power in iran.
    that religion had simiularities with islam.praying.the end day.one mightiful god…
    but in that religion evil always matched with persians enemies.
    that period mullas called Mubads.they had inportant role in government.i want to say that the religion power in that period has worked benefitially very powerfull for maintainance of iranian teritory and expantion of it.the problem was ((which is in someway ‘IS’ now))that the religion was very old.it had lost it’s use because of many things.that period governments could withstand against cristian and against some other mazdaki and manavi which where rebelions like comunists now but this only happened by sword and blood.so the mubads lost popularity and so the kings and governments.
    arabs attaked.the religion changed.it is clear that nobody likes to see his home conqured.they did terrible things.but what i want to say is that it is a fact that the problem which weakened iran is something that has came into existance BEFORE ARAB INVASION.
    iran was the stablizing power in this state at least for persians kurds gilani mazandarani baluch even maybe indians pakistani afghanis tajikies some parts of iraq …
    from the day this power collapsed this region has been ruuled and conqured by external powers : saudi arabia_mongolia_ghirghiz_russia_britania.. and maybe native people couldnt sleep restfull for a night.
    the problem is lack of unity. lack of soals healed .
    lack of some house wich the people dare to enter when they have no other place for their soal.
    me myself think that the time changed.Roman empire became cristian unlike kings of this state and they accepted that religion with all of its specifications as a world wide religion.
    jeasus crist was not europian and blond.but it was accepted there.anyway the time has been changed.the time which a native religion which supports killing others as evils had came to end.this could not last.islam is more a worldwide religion.
    essentially it states that all people are the same.and many more statments like that.many.iranians COULD NOT ADOPT TO THIS PROGRESS IN THE HUMAN CIVILIZATION. i mean if they all adopted and accepted this they wouldnt have the problem from that day till now.ACCEPTING SOMETHING and adopting to that is not a must for doing that.the importance is with the addoption.acception of the new way of thought and addoption to the time wich was changed. after acception you may have the power to stay alive.you may be powerfull do the wright thing or the wrong thing.

  149. syed saboor

    On April 23, 2010 at 10:31 pm


    Hasan,
    Islam came to eradicate racism, but you have it all wrong that it came to impose Arab culture on any of us. Islam did not come to destory ethnic identification or anything related to that. It is not pride to feel that you are Aryan, Black, Arab, Dravidian, Chinese, or anyother ethnic appelation. I

  150. Syed Saboor

    On April 23, 2010 at 10:37 pm


    Nationalism is the most insane, but rational concept in the world. The major goal of the New World Order is to eradicate natinal identity to create their hegemonic one-world superstate. It is all laid out in the philosophy of Adam Weishaupt and his Illuminati organization.

  151. ahmed

    On April 29, 2010 at 9:59 pm


    No body is arabbasically but those who live in the arabian bensuilla.
    And by the way with no ofence to arab, as mentioned in some hadeth I do not remember at the moment, the messenger and the prophet mohamed(PBUH) was asked by some one that who are the hungry and bare-footed and hedders, propher replyed, arab

  152. SYed Saboor

    On May 1, 2010 at 2:51 pm


    Thank you for your wisdom, Ahmed. I wish more people had your keen insight. Arabs are racially a small minority among the vast numbers of Arabic-speaking peoples. True Arabs are relatively few in number. The rest are all wannabee Arabs.

  153. Amir

    On May 5, 2010 at 9:50 am


    arabs are many a huge nation.sometime they had conquered from east to west to spain and north africa my home iran eastern roman empire north to turkish tribes their religion spread to east asia.they have been powerfull and they are now.
    they are our powerfull neighburs.and if the things be wright and wisdom is used there is no problem between this power and us.
    in the region they conquered knowledge as everybody knows growed and things where not so bad.time will show all of the facts.

  154. Syed Saboor

    On May 6, 2010 at 8:07 pm


    Arabs may of produced a great empire, but they are anything but a great people. As I have always stated before, both Jews and Arabs are descendents of Semetic peoples, but the Jews have the brains, the Arabs have……well, whatever.
    But that certainly does not qualify them as superior. Arabs have no right to claim any superiority. They were no-good desert dwellers before Islam, and even now they lack any intelligence and cunning. Now, that is where we lead into a nice discussion about Jews, doesn’t it!

  155. Philip

    On May 7, 2010 at 8:01 pm


    Put it this way my Parents is full blood Persian and she take insult to being called an Arab, not because she’s racist its because they are barbarians. They are terrorists and kill the innocent. Just look at the Arab-Jew leader of Iran Abedenablah… wait he’s not Persian, but this explains alot he kills many innocent people who don’t want to cooperate with his Islamic regime and giving the true people of Iran a bad reputation.
    To me it seems like all Persians have built in dislike for Arabs because of what they’ve done

  156. Syed Saboor

    On May 9, 2010 at 3:08 pm


    Philip, I commend on your erudition and insight…..bravo!!!!!!

  157. syed saboor

    On May 9, 2010 at 3:10 pm


    But just one more thing, do not let your dislike of your leader give clearence to the Jew Nited States to attack your country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  158. Davood

    On May 27, 2010 at 7:43 pm


    hello,

    Persians Are Not Arabs as the site or this pages subject title suggests:

    http://www.PersiansAreNotArabs.com

    and we hate being called Arabs.

  159. ِAhmed

    On June 6, 2010 at 3:42 am


    Hi guys,

    what a nice conversation full of hatred toward Arabs!! First of all and as an Arab guy, I understand that the majority of “Persian” are so proud or being “Persian” and they just hate being mistakenly identified as Arabs. I admit, it is your right to do so. You actually should be proud of being who you are.

    Second, please don’t hate Islam because it’s has been practiced and implemented wrongly in Iran. Some Iranian say:”We are not Muslims, Islam was forced on us, we love our old religion” that’s fine but have you ever asked yourself why Turkey has no problem with Arabs? why they don’t hate Islam? Even though Arabs invited Turkey and somehow mistreated its people but they are still Muslim and have no hatred against Arabs.

    Another example is , far eastern people (e.g. Malaysia, Indonesia..etc) they are Muslim although no Arab solider step on foot there. They have no hatred toward arabs what so ever? Why “Persians” always cary the cordage against Arabs?

    I know it’s so difficult to live in Iran because every thing is haram “forbidden” by the name of Islam but that’s not the case. The leaders there are using the religion for their own benefits. Please stop this hatred and let’s all be Human being.

    You guys are using Arabic alphabet in your daily use, carry Arabic names, support Mohammed “PBUH” and his family “who were arabs”, adapt the bad Arabic habits which some Arabs don’t do (no mixing between genders, no music, no movies..etc). Stop whinging and crying and so something about that. Look at Turkey, they are no way Arabs, but still they are Muslims and very proud of being Muslim.

    The problem I see with “Persians” is the lost of Identity, they don’t know anymore who they are: “Persian”, “Arabs”, “Turks”, “Arian”?

    Look at Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco (non gulf countries), they are Arabs and Muslim. They can go clubbing, drink, dating, go to cinema, mock on chicks, no gender separation what so ever. On the other hand, look at Iran, people are not allowed to have parties, listen to Music, go to Cinemas,,etc

    All this my “Persian” friends because you chose the wrong people to implement Islam who implemented it very wrongly.

    Just one last word, please don’t hate Arabs and together we can stop this hatred.

    Khoda Hafiz
    P.S: Khoda=Allah and “Hafiz” is the protecter which is an Arab word of حافظ

  160. McDoodle

    On June 7, 2010 at 11:53 pm


    The Arabs actually didn’t ”destroy” but assimilated and absorbed Persian culture (same goes for Greek-Byzantine in the Levant).
    The ones who destroyed and ransacked Persia, and Baghdad, were the Mongol hordes from the East, funny enough, the same related ilk (the Khazar Jews) are trying to do to Iran under the command of the US in the 21st century.

    Other than that, your ”article” is pure conjuncture and wishful thinking drivel, Iranians would never give up Islam as much as the Pope would give up Catholicism. So much misconceptions about Islam in the west that it’s really amusing. Much of what is understood about Islam or their adherers in the west is coming from fiction and the media, we all know who control both.

    Only a fool with an IQ of 70 would want to become otherwise, and the Persians are not know to be so; Why didn’t the Persians ”reconverted” to their whatever religion they like when they had the chance throughout their Islamic history?

    Well they did, in the 18-19 century; they become Shi’a Islam, and that’s as far as it will go.

  161. Syed Saboor

    On June 14, 2010 at 6:56 am


    And to put your stupid fuliminatinons to rest, Ahmed, Arab boy. Most of the Turks I have come across hate Arabs vehemently.

  162. syrianjesus

    On June 23, 2010 at 9:26 am


    awww..lol…Syed Saboor was having such a civil convo with Amir and then venom erupted when an Arab retaliated a quarter of the filthy arrogance (not pride) that internet trolls showed. Not commending the arab either, but check your hypocrisy Syed, and maybe your anger management pills bro :)

    Internet troll Iranians: who is cornering you?..like…right NOW…any mobs with pitchforks at your door shouting “Iranians! We don’t like you! Booooooooo!”? Why do you have to assert yourself by aggressing on others?do you think that colectivley arab citizens are ambassadors for their own will?…come on…youre in the same region you should know better that the whole place is a pile of tyrannical BS.

    On condescending “backwards” arabs:
    Lets play to some Fox(LTD)ed out brains:
    The Bedouin lifestyle is constantly shifting to survive; they have to keep moving due to adverse conditions. I don’t see anything backwards about constant travel and using local ingredients for survival. The fact that those backwards arabs mobilized something to eventually span across several lands,even if they ran around screaming like chimps,they had to huddle back and plan to bring down the intimidating roman and Persian empires. Let’s try using this logic: karmic cycles reset judicial order. empires rise and fall..if u massacre,you shall be massacred.. No empire was BOOed and fell from its chair.i will assume the day is coming for the american empire,or EU empire, or israeli empire.

    Dear internet TROLL Iranians:
    you are NOT entrusted to save the Iranian state. your kidneys wont fail if someone called you an arab. relax…

    If you were born from a box under the stairs, then you make it into something and you be proud of it! You don’t go boasting about how proud you are of the manufacturer of the box. it’s a symbol of your origin; safe, warm environment,food… These are all far greater things to be proud of than ancient inscriptions/drawings or ideas by people who, if you saw today, youd run screaming cuz they were hairy muscular giants who never heard of alanis morrisette.

    anyone who clings to their past with claws and teeth might not be proud of their present. clinging to past recognitions means there are no current advancements to be recognized . as far as im concerned, im very proud of my PRESENT identity, because I personally, can cook awesome stuffed zuchinni. Though not “genetically” arab, im proud of it. equally proud to be hated.what an honour to be a constant threat to people’s ego by just existing :)

    p.s: amir: politics is a dirty,windy game. as citizens,we are truly pawns.i dont think it would be fair to point the finger back and say “look iranians, how come your housing issues are this or your human rights are that” because we know realistically you cant do sh*** about it as a citizen. and btw,your method of debating is honestly really awesome to read.patient and reassuringly mature.so, kudos :)

  163. darious

    On June 26, 2010 at 2:36 am


    For the uneducated Arab who says Ebn E Sina was Arab.
    Please read on
    Abū ‘Alī al-Ḥusayn ibn ‘Abd Allāh ibn Sīnā’, known as Abū Alī Sīnā[2][3] (Persian: ابوعلی سینا) or, more commonly, Ibn Sīnā[4] (Arabic: ابن سینا‎), but most commonly known in English by his Latinized name Avicenna (Greek: Aβιτζιανός, Avitzianós),[5] (c. 980 – 1037) was a polymath of Persian[6] origin and the foremost physician and philosopher of his time.[7] He was also an astronomer, chemist, geologist, Hafiz, Islamic psychologist, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, logician, paleontologist, mathematician, Maktab teacher, physicist, poet, and scientist.[8].
    His being a muslim doesnt make him an Arab.
    I dont mind some arabs but what I dislike about them is the fact that they assume they own whatever they touch..

  164. syed saboor

    On September 7, 2010 at 9:25 am


    Okay, You are right about some things, not all things. My response to the illustrious Arab was just simply a reflexive commentary on his otherwise racist commentary of Arab supremacism!!!!

  165. syed saboor

    On September 7, 2010 at 2:42 pm


    That being said, why all this harping on Arab contributions to civilization. The Taj Mahal is located in India. A marvel of Islamic ingenuity and art. built by clearly non-Arab Mughals. But as always, Arabs think they are the “master race.” With that mentality, who is to argue with its proponents, but just keep our mouths shut and close our ears to their ridiculous psycho babble!!!!!

  166. RZ

    On September 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm


    I’ve just learned something today, not only from the post but also from some of the disgusting comments.. Persia is one of the raciest countries in the Middle East..

  167. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 9:51 am


    actually the elamites were not kinky haired they had straight hair which they curled stop making up crap the culture of the assyrians and persians was to curl their hair on head and beard it was a custom the dark straight haired dravidians are from the elamites elam in tamil means homeland also proof of the dravidians being from the dark elamites are the brahui dravidians who up to now are still mixing with the farsi people they live in afghanistan and in balochistan the elamites were from ham and from shem shems son elam (elamites) traces of the dark elamites are still found in the farsi people of today and they resemble tamil and by the way the dravidians have nice brown color skin to black without non negroid features also according to a sunni farsi imam from tabiristan Imam Muhammad ibn Jarir at Tabari the faris race came from the son of Shem Lud who married the daughter of Japheth Shakbah by the way just because the farsi race comes from Lud does not mean they are semitic they have own culture language and by the way since the elamites were from shem and ham this means the faris people are from shem twice through Lud and Elam who was also son of shem so the elamites were a unique hamitic race and the only other unique hamitic race is the dravidian tamils and brahuis

  168. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 10:04 am


    i am a indian muslim and my background is from Iraqi sunni kurds the Farsi ones and let me just say both my grand dads never looked like a white person and neither punjabi sikhs not at all.For some of the persians talking about fairness you guys should remember you have a lot of turks in iran ! also afghanistan! Persians also can be dark in complexion with straight to wavy hair!Imam Abu Hanifa was a sunni Imam from Faris people his family originated from south iran faris province he was born in Kufa and his son Hammad said his father was tall dark and handsome and Imam Muhammad ibn Jarir at Tabari was from iran close to caspian sea he was described as being tall and dark complexioned many many farsi people neither look white neither like punjabi sikhs!!!!Please stop insulting the Arabs Al Hamdullilah we are muslims our fore fathers Adam,Noah,Seth and Enoch were all muslims and their culture and language was syriac

  169. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 8:35 pm


    Well among the best of the people of muslims and of Faris descent was Hadrat Salman al Farisi Ra,Hasan al Basri born in Madina but family from Khuzekstan RA, Habibul Ajami RA, Sari as Saqati RA, Junayd al Baghdadi RA,Yusuf Hamadani RA, Habib Ra i RA, Abu Hanifa RA,Imam Muslim RA,Imam Bukhari RA,Imam Ghazali RA,Abu Yazid Bistami RA, Bishr al Haafi RA, Sayyid Abdal Qadir Jilani RA, Imam Tirmidhi RA,Imam Tabari RA,Abul Abbas Ahmad bin Masruq RA of Kurasan, Abul Hasan Ali bin Muhammad al Isfahani RA, Harith Muhasibi RA,Ma ruf al KarkhiRA. the list goes on. These people were very lovely.

  170. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 9:03 pm


    Again we are Indian muslims with Iraqi Kurdish Farsi background and i am ashamed of how some Farsi people behave towards Arabs and if these people call themselves muslims they must not be very sincere in their Deen, Some people are good some are not when you say Arabs this is stupid you cannot generalize a people!
    The Arabs that I know of were blessed people ex the best of Creation and our Prophet Muhammad PBH, Prophet Hud PBH,Prophet SalihPBH, Prophet Shu aybPBH, Abu Bakr Siddique, Umar bin Khattab, Uthman bin Affan,Ali ibn Ali Talib,Hamza,Abbas,Abdullah ibn Abbas, Abu Dhar Gifari,Zubayr ibn al Awwam, Talha ibn Ubaydullah,Abdur rahman bin Auf,Sa d ibn Abi Waqqas,Abi Ubayda bin al Jarrah, Saeed bin Zayd and the list goes on. These brought Belief for us! So these are beautiful people I think some of you people are confused , the Arabs i know of are beautiful I think you people must have gotten something mixed somewhere the arabs you talk of sound like completely different people!Maybe the ones u are thinking about were actually persians who did not become Muslim and due to their hatred towards islam pretended to be Arabs fooling poor ignorant people, as the above post shows many eminent Sunni Muslim Shaykhs of Farsi background who loved their Arab brothers each showed respect to the other!and by the way most of the successors of the Companions of the ProphetPBH belonged to the Faris people!and many of their students were ARAB. May Allah bless the Nation of MuhammadPBH the Believing People

  171. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 9:36 pm


    Islam is for all races this rubbish you people talk about is so you can feel free to do what you want fornicating drinking because Islam you cannot do these things this has nothing to do with Islam or the arabs and for the brothers and sisters who are muslim but talk rubbish about the arabs straighten your thinking out scape goating is not nice

  172. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 10:27 pm


    By the way for some people Islam is not a Arab religion it is a Prophetic culture!a Heavenly culture! there is no difference between a Arab and non Arab the best is in piety! some of you people are very crazy obviously the persians or farsi people have their own culture how many times i hear ignorant persians likening themselves to hindu and sikh punjabis ! there are so many farsi muslims who have arab ancestry! give me a break and by the way the Farsi race as i said is from Lud ibn Shem who married Shakbab bint Japheth(Yam) and the hindus are from Magog ibn Japheth. I here many ignorant iranians who liken themselves to polytheistic hindus and and are ashamed of being called arab who are also muslims shameful shameful!
    i have seen avestan in srcipt it looks nothing like sanskrit the only script that resembles it a lttle bit is the tamil brahm script!
    Also i dreamt of the farsi people of iraq and iran in the dream it is showing they are same as the people of gulf! and i will quote exactly what the sunni Persian Imam said about the farsi race very close to what i dreamt

  173. rasheed

    On October 2, 2010 at 10:30 pm


    This is what Imam Tabari said it is from wikipedia and very close to what i dreamt
    The Muslim historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounts a tradition that the wife of Lud was named Shakbah, daughter of Japheth, and that she bore him “Faris, Jurjan, and the races of Faris”. He further asserts that Lud was the progenitor of not only the Persians, but also the Amalekites and Canaanites, and all the peoples of the East, Oman, Hejaz, Syria, Egypt, and Bahrein.

  174. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 1:00 am


  175. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 1:04 am


  176. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 1:11 am


    sanskrit script the characters are not even close to avestan i am not talking about spoken just character similarities the farsi took from the elamites!
    http://veda.wikidot.com/sanskrit

  177. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 1:17 am


  178. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 1:35 am


    Here is brahui dravidian who com from Elamites and are up to today stilling mixing with farsi people
    http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/brahui-chief.html

  179. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 2:00 am


    http://jackgruber.com/athens/iraq-2/
    Moroccan soccer player on right in green looks like tamil

  180. rasheed.101@hotmail.com

    On October 4, 2010 at 2:15 am


    http://onthescene.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/20/10-iraqis-you-should-know/ iraqi soccer player Nashat Akram, not looking hindu and not like white!but like Faris people

  181. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 2:19 am


    http://hazmatter.blogspot.com/2009/03/iraqi-soccer-player-shot-in-head-on.html
    Iraqi soccer players most having farsi faces many farsi kurds in iraq who look nothing like white or hindu punjabis

  182. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 2:29 am


    http://football-uniform.seesaa.net/article/42490984.html
    iraqi scoccer players most all are of farsi background none like hindu or white people

  183. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 6:11 am


  184. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 6:37 am


  185. rasheed

    On October 4, 2010 at 12:08 pm


    in above post i am not concerned about the article just the pic because i hear so many people talk rubbish about dravidian people how they look australian native and this is not true as u see the dravidians and elamites before were like this hamitic in type with straight to wavy hair and also from Shem through Elam
    and used to curl their hair on head and beard this was also custom of the assyrians and Farsi people

  186. rasheed

    On October 5, 2010 at 3:46 am


  187. rasheed

    On October 5, 2010 at 3:51 am


    http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/balochi-chiefs.html
    these are brahui dravidian people Elamites

  188. rasheed

    On October 5, 2010 at 3:55 am


  189. rasheed

    On October 5, 2010 at 6:07 am


    Dear sayyid Saboor u are from the family of the ProphetPBH and you are insulting the arabs?half the stuff you are talking is pure rubbish if you are a sayyid of coarse people will take you for a arab unless your features are completely indian!Sayyid your talking about bandar abbas what!these africans are not the original inhabitants of sumer and susa these came by trade and by slavery the dravidians are the real elamites who were from ham and shem you say most of your background is from afghanistan?how come you do not about the dark brahui dravidians check my posts those are pics of brahui people who come from the dark elamites the elamites had straight hair not kinky just as the dravidians! Sayyid you have a bad attitude please correct it also check the pics of some farsi people hey sayyid i am indian muslim with iraqi kurd on both sides of my family and i a brown in color!Abu Hanifa was tall and dark! sayyid you have no knowledge at all!arabs MashaaAllah are very beautiful and yes some have good attitude some not but all races have this!I have seen the Prophet muhammad PBH more than 8times in dream form Imam Hasan 1x ,Imam Husayn1x,Imam Zaynal Abideen 2x,Ja far as Sadiq 1x,Prophet Ibraheem 1x,and Prophet Jesus1x!Abu Bakr Siddique 2xImam Shafi i1x, Sayyid Abdal Qadir Jilani over 3x and by the way Imam Tabari a sunni Imam was tall and dark from tabiristan which is by caspian sea!

  190. Syed Saboor

    On October 13, 2010 at 10:30 am


    Listen to me. I am not a racist, contrary to your delusions Rasheed. I never expressed any racist sentiments. The others who post on this webpage do that. As for my name. yes, my name is Syed, but it does not mean anything. As for my ancestry, it hails from Afghanistan originally. So right there, I look nothing like an Arab. And no, I am not a descendent of the Prophet. I have no lineage to the Prophet. Syed means mister in Arabic, not descendent of the Prophet. Go back and take some courses in history!!!!!!

  191. Syed Saboor

    On October 13, 2010 at 10:34 am


    And Afghans are also Aryans originally, not Arabs and not Dravidians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  192. rasheed

    On October 23, 2010 at 10:25 pm


    saboor please do not put sayyid before your name it is only for the family of the ProphetPBH which u said you are not from!i also know there also indians living in afghanistan are you one?brahui dravidians are living in afghanistan !and in balochistan !many iranians are descendants of turks there are many turks living in iran!u are from afghanistan and pakistan yet u do not know about the brahuis? stop talking your rubbish little boy grow up!and are you a muslim?you do sound racist!

  193. reza

    On October 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm


    its not farsi, in arabic they dosent have P in their language and they was calling parsi, farsi .. this is parsi and not farsi

  194. shahrooz nikravesh

    On October 31, 2010 at 10:37 am


    I really interesting that many people around the world think Iranians are Arabs.
    I am a martyr Beheshti University accounting student, but I think a lot of information can you do about Iran.
    Iran is a country located in the Middle East and its population of about 75000000 people. Almost all Iranians are Muslim. 1500000 500,000 people are Christian and Zoroastrian people are.20,000 Jews live in Iran as well. Religious minorities in Iran are largely free.
    In terms of ethnicity, there are several race. Lor, Turk, Kurd, Gilaki, Mazy and the Gulf are just some of ethnicities. In southwestern Iran, one of the tribes, the Arabs are.
    But the Iranians believe that Islam is now no connection to the Arabs. Iranians are Shiites, while most Arabs are Sunni. Even now that the Iranian Islamic Republic will rule over them and basically it is a religious system, but back to their pre-Islamic history are proud of.
    What is usually a foreigner can not understand is that the Iranians because of Islam or loss on their pre-Islamic Arabs are hated. Allah says in Quran:The best among you in God who is all the more virtuous.
    After the race never matters. What is important is love!

  195. Saboor

    On November 3, 2010 at 12:09 pm


    Rasheed, you stupid idiot. How many times do I have to tell you. Afghans are Aryans. End of discussion. As for Bruihuis, they are a miniscule minority in northern pakistan. that is all. I suggest, little boy, you grow up!!!! And how many Afghans have you seen, that have broad noses and dark brown skin? Not many, I thought so. Afghans are beautiful Aryan people!!!!

  196. Saboor

    On November 3, 2010 at 12:12 pm


    And note, I am not a racist. I never made any racist comments on this webpage. The Arab trolls are the ones who expouse racism, not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for your feeble mind, Azeris are not Turks, they are Turkified Persians. Most of them are physically indistinguishable with Armenians, fool!!!!

  197. Syed Saboor

    On November 3, 2010 at 12:13 pm


    And note, I am not a racist. I never made any racist comments on this webpage. The Arab trolls are the ones who expouse racism, not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for your feeble mind, Azeris are not Turks, they are Turkified Persians. Most of them are physically indistinguishable with Armenians, fool!!!!

  198. Mohammed

    On November 27, 2010 at 1:41 pm


    Iranians are not Persians. The country’s name was changed, do not call it Persia or yourself Persian unless you were born when it was still called that. It got renamed so live with it.

    Iranians don’t like being associated with Iraq and the rest of the Arab nations and are trying to keep clear of them despite still being Arab. You don’t have to speak the language to be an Arab. Have you ever heard of someone that said they were born Jewish but don’t practice the religion, it’s the same thing. It’s a race of people so yes, Iranians are Arab. Deal with it.

    Just accept what you are and stop trying to complicate things and move yourselves into something or somewhere else you don’t belong. You can be Arab without being hated you know.

  199. Edyta N. Tehrani

    On November 27, 2010 at 7:06 pm


    Mohammed, you are confusing religion with nationality here. Change of religion, or change of the country’s name doesn’t change nationality of its people. Jewish people who do not practice Judaism are still Jewish.Most Iranians are Persian. Not all Iranians practice Islam. These are the facts you have to learn to live with.

  200. XERXES MITRA KASSRA CYRUS DARIUS RULE!!!!

    On November 30, 2010 at 3:07 am


    Persia is beautiful!! nuff said!! We should rename it 2 Persia sounds
    much better than iran doesn’t it!?!?!!btw Persian and Italian women are the most beautiful women in the world!!! peace Azeri from Munich :)

  201. whocares

    On December 1, 2010 at 1:10 pm


    Lol @ the comments especially @ Hakan!!

    To the anonymous who wrote this:

    Hakan #18

    On December 6, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Hakan’s comment (#18) is so typically Turkish. Here’s a summary: “Let me be a typical Turk by attempting to distance myself from Persians, shoving the latter into Arab territory by using skin color (which can change easily in 15 minutes under the sun) as the basis of my logic. Once I’m done with that, I will claim to have good intentions and no smug comment by saying all people are equal.” So obnoxious. If you’ve got something snarky or catty or anti-Persian or pro-Persian to say, just say it, you don’t need to be lame by adding at the end “Oh, not that what I just said matters, all people are equal and wonderful yada yada”.

    Brilliant!!
    I couldn’t possibly agree more with what you said… thats exactly what went through my mind when I read Hakans comment(s)

    lol
    nice1!! ;-)

  202. Benjamin

    On December 4, 2010 at 7:32 pm


    I am a Persian Jew. I am proud of my ethnicity and thankful to the Persian kings who created a great nation. My appreciations for the beautifully written article.

    To the poster who maintained \”Iranians are not Persians\” (Nov 27th, 2010): Iran means \”the land of Aryans\”, so if the intention of your comment is to belittle a great nation, in which you have no part, you have failed. It is really stupid to think that just because there are a couple of things shared between nations, those nations share the same nationality! It is even more absurd to think that since there has been a change of name, the product is different!

    To all other non-Iranians who try to leave non-factual BS: GET A LIFE! DON\’T BE JEALOUS!

    VIVA Persia, the land of Aryans.

  203. Syed Saboor

    On December 24, 2010 at 1:06 pm


    Go to davidduke.com and search for an article about the movie 300. Even David Duke is intelligent enough to know who Iranians are–Aryans.

  204. Billy Ray Cyrus

    On February 16, 2011 at 1:05 am


    Where was Ibn Sina born? Why is his name Ibn SINA (Persian name)? Why did he write in both Arabic and Persian?

    Because he was Persian.

    And we write with the Arabic alphabet, what does that prove? Americans write with the Roman Latin alphabet, which is not theirs, but today they own the world, don\’t they? And where is Italy now? Arabs without oil are nothing. Arabs without oil = Yemen.

  205. MizPerSia

    On April 9, 2011 at 5:37 am


    also about the name of Iran ,someone said that Persians dont exist ,about 50- 60 % of Irans population are persians also 50% in Afghanistan and almost 100% in Tajikistan ,both Afghanistan and Tajikistan used to be part of persia but they were separated .
    today about 70% of Iran is inhabited by Persians ,

    the name of Iran is derived from Arya which was the name given to our country by the Sassanid Persians, it means land of Aryans (speakers of Aryan languages) like Kurdish, Persian, baluchi etc

    previous the Sassanids during Achaemenians not only Iran but most of the so called mid easter countries up to Egypt were called greater Parsa or Persia as Greeks pronounce it .

    this also explains whay the so called Gulf countries like the UAE carry about 7-10% Ra1 Indo-iranian DNA.

    Persian language is an Indo-European language and so are the Persian people ,they belong to the western branch of Indo-iranian people and languages .

    but many ethnics inside Iran are not indo-europeans (Aryans)
    we have about 18-20 % turkic people like Azeris ,we have Arab Iranians, and also we have other Indo-iranians (Aryans) who speak other Indo-iranian languages close to Persian(beside Persian) like kurds ,Armenians ,Baluchs ,etc

    the first usage of the term Aryan is recorded by the persian Achaemenian king in the Behistoon inscription where he refers to himself as a Persian having Aryan lineage .

    also in Sassanid documents the term Aryan is used as well as in Avestan (Zoroastrian holy book)

    Persians used to be zoroastrians before Arabs atatcked us but ,not all Persians converted to Islam ,many Persians sold their lands and everything they owned to pay the Jaziya or the so called taxes arabs set for those who wished to keep their religion, it was during the Safavid azeri Turkish ruling that many Persians were forced to convert to shiism .

    today our country is not influenced by Arabs ,Iran is in this condision because of the 900 years of Azeri Turkish shiism and Shia ulema mullas who got their power under Safavid ruling ,the Turkish mafia is using shiism to continue to control Iran,and its natives ,many Iranians attack arabs ,but fact rmains Arabs did alot of damage to Persia , but what we are suffering from Today isnt Arab influence its the Azeri Turkish shiism .

    i do agree that Arabs should respect the only official and historical name of Persian Gulf ,also they shouldnt claim our scientists, but we cant blame todays Arabs for what their ancestors did 1400 years ago, remember what turks did and still are doing make Arabs look like angels.

    we should find a way to set Iran free from the Azeri Turkish Shia mafia which is suppressing all Iranians under fake Persian Id, especially the, sunnis, Kurds,Arabs, Baluchs and other minority groups including Azeri People.

  206. MizperSia

    On April 9, 2011 at 6:41 am


    ARE PERSIANS ARYANS?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Y-Haplogroup_R1_distribution.png

    the Ra1 haplogroup is considered as the Aryan Indo-Iranian haplogroup and Iran has 30-38% of the R1 Persians in central and eastern parts of Iran are the carriers ,and since Persians make about 50-60 % of the country population this means that Persians in Iran carry 50-54% Ra1 .and as we go further east this nr increases , there are 50% Persians in Afghanistan and almost 100% in Tajikestan ,the Tajiks carry 60-70% Ra1

    other ethnics like Azeris carry a high precentage of the J2 arabic haplogroup, researches show that the J2 chromosome is carried mainly in western parts of Iran especially in north Western Iran in Azerbaijan urumia in General the j2 arabic DNA is 30-35 % in Iran and in Urmia Azerbaijan its as high as 38%
    the high precentage of the Ra1 among Azeris has lowered the precentage of influence of this chromosome in Iran .

    the Turkis of Turkey carry about 15% Ra1 Indo-Iranian genes while the Ra1 is as low as 6-7 % among Iranian Azeris.

    also the turks in Turkey carry 40-50% J2, in Greece and Italy its as high as 40% but in Georgia it gets even higher as high as 70%.

    this proves that what matters is ones ethnicity not race ,cuz studdy shows that over half of Greeks and Turks share same DNA yet what separates us is our different languages and cultures .

    also the tests show that Indians carry high precentage of Ra1 while in Scandinavia and northern Europe its as high as In India and tajikstan. so this proves that our skin colour has nothing to do with the precentage of the Aryan gene among us .

  207. MC

    On May 23, 2011 at 9:56 am


    **Iranians should be compared to Georgians, Armenians, Turks, Azerbaijanis/Azeris, Dagestanis, Ossetians, Tadjiks, Afghans and even Indians, not Arabs.

    **Iran is a CENTRAL ASIAN country. So yes, Iranians may very well look “exotic” – they can look dark Asiatic or Eurasian when looking “ethnic”, but rarely Africanoids/mulatos like most Arabs do.

    **Turks of Turkey might have fairer complexion than Iranians, but generally have flat faces and are stubbier than Iranians (Bone features of Iranians and Greeks look more refined).

    **When Iranians say that they are Aryans and speak an indo-European language, it does not mean that they are admirers of Hitler and Nordicism. It means that they are simply Iranians: Between Europe in the West and Asia in the East. The original Iranian was a tolerant and multicultural embracing nation

    **When Iranians say they hate Arabs, it is not related to the way the West is bombing Iraq and spewing hate over Muslims and Islam. It is because Iran has been historically raped by hordes of Arabic Bedouins some 1300 years ago and recently an estranged form of Arabic religion (Islam) has been forced upon them (1979).

  208. Syed Saboor

    On June 6, 2011 at 10:33 am


    Well, said MC…………Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  209. kambiz

    On January 5, 2012 at 9:57 pm


  210. Romeo

    On March 8, 2012 at 11:25 pm


    The main difference I have noticed is that ALL persians, at least the ones I went to college with, are exceptionally good looking. For the most part, Arabs are no better or worse looking than any other group. Persians are just beautiful.

  211. Romeo

    On March 8, 2012 at 11:26 pm


    The main difference I have noticed is that ALL persians, at least the ones I went to college with, are exceptionally good looking. For the most part, Arabs are no better or worse looking than any other group. Persians are just beautiful.

  212. Arshan

    On April 1, 2012 at 7:24 am


    Persians created their first empire the Achaemenid empire during the BC time period, conquering the levant as well as entering into the Arabian peninsula(UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait,etc.) also entering into Turkish areas(Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Kahzakstan, etc.), Persian and Iranian blood is undoubtedly flowing into both Turks and Arabs, yet funny on how Arabs and Turks say that Persians are no longer Persians and that Iranians are not Persian when both Arabs and Turks have Persian blood in them and yet claim Arabs and Turks are still Arabs and Turks when they themselves have Persian blood in them and if Iranians and Persians have Arab and Turk blood in them, they are no longer Iranian and Persian. Arabs and Turks have proven their hippocracy in this forum if Iranians and Persians have Arab and Turkish blood in them then Arabs and Turks have Persian and Iranian blood in them, do to the fact that Iranians and Persians were the first to create empires in both the BC and AD time periods and spreading Persian and Iranian blood into their lands, if Persians and Iranians are not pure due to the conquests done to them by Arabs and Turks, Arabs and Turks are not pure as well do to conquests done to them far earlier in the history of the world by Persians and Iranians. Arabs and Turks are not pure just like Iranians and Persians, but if that is so and that Persians and Iranians are not Persian then Arabs are not Arabs and Turks are not Turks. As far as looks go, how could Iranians and Persians look Arab, when Arabs were the first to be conquered, Iranians and Persians had first conquered Arabs, by that right Arabs look like Persians and Iranians, due to the fact that Iranians and Persians entering into Arab lands far earlier in time and Arabs begin entering into Persian and Iranian lands only late in the 6th century A.D.

    As for curly hair the ancient Persians had curly hair during their pre-islamic empires, as displayed on the art reliefs shown in their architecture, by that right and by the right of first entering into Arab lands, curly hair comes from Persians and Iranians not Arabs, so how can Arabs have curly hair and say they gave it to Persians and Iranians, when the original Persians themselves had curly hair, the answer is obvious its the other way around Persians and Iranians gave Arabs curly hair not the other way around.

  213. Tiki33

    On April 20, 2012 at 8:15 pm


    Some people may have a hard time knowing the difference and simply making errors. I understand being classified in a group that you don’t belong in. The key is to be united no matter what country or ethnicity.

  214. hahaurfunny

    On May 1, 2012 at 1:57 am


    Wellllllllllllll im Palestinian i love iranis or persian idk which i should call you guys i live in ca and whenever i go to saudia f!@$@# arabia they call me vanilla arab, roman arab , or worse crusade arab . this is because of my white skin and green eyes and the fact that im 5 9 and that they are all 5 ft tall lol anyways PALESTINIANS ARE NOT ARABS WE ARE CANNANITES AND PHLISTINES mixed with other empires that conquerd the holy land .plzzzzzzz all original middle easterns fight the ugly saudis and isreahell fake khazars who invaded the beautiful middle east and destroyed it , bythe way mighty hyksos the cannanite who invaded egypt and conqured it for two centuries was described as a white person according to egyptian history! so inshallah another mighty hyksos cannanite palestinian will destory the zionist entity . the crusades european christians were in our land for 100 yrs they were horrific but there gone and that will be isreals destiny palestine belongs to muslims ,christians , jews PALESTINIANS not polish or ethiopian joos peace

  215. Islam is not arab

    On September 19, 2012 at 5:13 pm


    Salaam

    Yeah many Arabs think they are superior but remember Mohamed (buy) is not a Arab BTW and yes the qurais(Arabs) are the ones hoe try o kill the prophet Mohamed (pbuh). arabisering is haram ignorance of stupid Arabs. Its not only Persian culture ho is in danger its the north African Amazing culture to. The arrogance racist culture killing animals barking dogs sandniggers well one day burn in hell.

    Peace on all my Muslim brother except

    Laying myth tinkers ho like to see the Islam as there own race.

    one day there will be justice mashallah

  216. Sara Khatoon

    On February 11, 2013 at 2:01 pm


    I appreciate the article for it’s honesty and accuracy. The comments written on this article, for the most part, is nonsense. I have read very few things on here that was actually true. You people need to calm yourselves lol.

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