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The Lost Dutchman Gold Mine: Found?

One John V. Kemm states he has found the legendary Lost Dutchman Gold Mine, using Google Earth. According to some versions of the tale, the most famous lost mine in American history is either cursed, or protected by mysterious guardians. The Lost Dutchman is the stuff that true treasure hunts are made of…

One John V. Kemm states he has found the legendary Lost Dutchman Gold Mine, using Google Earth. According to some versions of the tale, the most famous lost mine in American history is either cursed, or protected by mysterious guardians. The Lost Dutchman is the stuff where true treasure hunts are made of…Thousands of treasure hunters still try to locate the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine, hidden somewhere in the Superstition Mountains, near Apache Junction, in Arizona. The mine is named after Jacob Waltz, a German immigrant (“Dutchman” was slang for “German”, derived from the German word “Deutsch”, meaning: “German”). There are at least four Lost Dutchmans to be found in the American West – one in Colorado, one in California and the other two in Arizona. The earliest Lost Dutchman Gold Mine in Arizona was said to be near Wickenburg, where in the 1870’s a Dutchman was found dead in the desert, together with some saddlebags filled with gold.

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A brief history

Fact and fiction blend in these tales, becoming “faction”, but key elements are “lost Apache gold”, “a Dutchman”, “a lost gold vein, found by US soldiers”, a doctor and – of course – treasure maps. In “The Story of Doctor Thorne”, some Apaches are said to have found a very rich gold mine in the Superstition Mountains; one of them is, in some versions of the story, the famous chief Geronimo. The family of one Miguel Peralta was said to have discovered the mine around 1850, but was attacked by the Apaches and slaughtered in the “Peralta Massacre”. Years later, Dr Thorne treated a wounded Apache and was rewarded with a trip to the mine – blindfolded. He was allowed to take as much gold ore as he could carry before, again blindfolded, being escorted from the site.

The “mainstream” tale of The Lost Dutchman involves two Germans, Jacob Waltz and Jacob Weiser – but it is possible that there was only one single “Dutchman” named Waltz, Weitz, Weitzer… or something like that. In some versions the Germans are said to behave violently, in others they are peaceful fellows. Waltz and/or Weiser seem to have located a rich gold mine in the Superstition Mountains, maybe with some help from a member of the Peralta family. Weiser is attacked by Apaches or by his greedy friend Waltz, but survives long enough to tell a doctor Walker about the mine. He is also said to have made a deathbed confession to Julia Thomas, and to have drawn some sort of treasure map.

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  1. Joe Dorish

    On September 5, 2009 at 9:27 am


    If the guy found the mine using Google Earth why would he publish the fact? LOL The whole Lost Dutchman Mine stuff is really fascinating and the area in Arizona runs a marathon in the area and there is a waterfall along the Massacre Grounds Trail in Lost Dutchman State Park.

  2. Auron Renius

    On September 5, 2009 at 9:32 am


    Interesting article

  3. mystery61

    On September 5, 2009 at 9:39 am


    A very interesting article, I liked it!

  4. Chris Stonecipher

    On September 5, 2009 at 10:53 am


    Very interesting article. Maybe part of the mystery/tale is partiallly true.

  5. cutedrishti8

    On September 5, 2009 at 11:28 am


    Nice one to share…Great work..

  6. Lauren Axelrod

    On September 5, 2009 at 1:34 pm


    I don’t know if I would share this info if I had it.

  7. catlord

    On September 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm


    Intriguingly story!! Wow1

    -I wish however that Triond would do something about these HORRID ads and video-boxes!! Cripes!!

    -I am using Seakmonkey browser tonight and can see ALL the ads, which is severally stalling my system (nearly T-1 connect speed w/ 2.4Ghz processor… wth!?)

  8. RS Wing

    On September 5, 2009 at 11:10 pm


    Pretty intriguing again Patrick. What ever happened to the lost “Bill Keisar Gold”….that’s stiil a mystery.

  9. Lost in Arizona

    On September 6, 2009 at 12:06 am


    I can still remember as a kid camping out and about near the Superstition Mountains. One of my friend’s father used to talk about how the Apache used to hang above in the cliffs and wait for people to pass through before ambushing them. Then they’d hide the spoils in a cave that could only be located by them. The dead of the Apache still roam the hills, and slaughter all those who would claim their gold. This is the kind of stuff he’d tell a scared 12 year old before lights out. I remember one night screaming in fright when a tree branch started rubbing against the tent after hearing these stories, and barreling out of the tent into my mom and dad’s. Even if there was gold out there, you couldn’t get me to go back 20 years later..lol! Brings back a lot from my childhood. ;)

  10. ken bultman

    On September 6, 2009 at 6:26 am


    I love a mystery, especially one that may be factual. This one keeps popping up keeping hopes alive.

  11. LIVING BY GRACE

    On September 6, 2009 at 8:08 am


    Loved the article and the mystery. Maybe, the US government can discover the gold soon to pay our National Debt off. You do know that whoever is lucky enough to find it, that Uncle Sam will be there first to collect all of the taxes that they can.

    God Bless,

    Nelson Doyle

  12. Louie Jerome

    On September 6, 2009 at 8:37 am


    Maybe I should give up writing and go in search of treasure! A very informative piece. It just goes to show that lost treasure legends might just be real possibilities!

  13. C. Jordan

    On September 6, 2009 at 8:53 am


    A fascinating article Patrick.

  14. Uma Shankari

    On September 6, 2009 at 9:13 am


    A wonderful write, gripped my attention right from the start. Thank you so much.

  15. Harvster

    On September 6, 2009 at 12:45 pm


    That whole area is designated as a wilderness area and no mining or prospecting is allowed. Based on what little I read in this article, I’ll bet that this guy is like about one hundred other kooks who believe they have found the mine (or are just pulling peoples’ chains for the entertainment value).

  16. sammysam2k

    On September 6, 2009 at 12:54 pm


    amazing! i never new about it and i never new you can find stuff on google earth so easily :) thnx

  17. understood

    On September 6, 2009 at 3:17 pm


    Nice one to share…Great work.. Resveratrol

  18. asok

    On September 6, 2009 at 3:17 pm


    if you belive the whole article why not go shovel in hand and get some gold.

  19. catlord

    On September 6, 2009 at 7:18 pm


    I worked with a fella that told me that when he was a child living in Arizona I think he said, used to play in this cave that they discovered. It had several old, broken-down Conestoga wagons and of busted wooden barrels and such in. They thought nothing of it, -just ‘junk’ in the cave.
    He said that the entrance was small and easily missed. The kids and to slide under this large rock lying in the ground, and would come up inside of a larger antechamber which has enough sunlight from cracks in the roof to allow them to see in the twilight.

    I often wondered if this was some important cave find, if it was maybe exactly what he (as a pre-teen) thought (just junk in the cave) or if he and pals were actually inside of a secret cache that the indians used to hide confiscated westwarders…

  20. Mr Ghaz

    On September 6, 2009 at 9:07 pm


    Excellent!..a highly informative and well presented article..this was wonderful and fascinating places..I LOVED IT!..Nice pics too..Thanks so much for sharing.

  21. Ruby Hawk

    On September 6, 2009 at 10:55 pm


    This would be and amazing thing if true. Loved the pictures too.

  22. Debra.

    On September 7, 2009 at 5:37 am


    Another fascinating read from you Patrick!

  23. Yovita Siswati

    On September 7, 2009 at 7:36 am


    An interesting read!

  24. Dreyan

    On September 7, 2009 at 8:55 am


    They totally ripped this story off in National Treasure 2.

    Anyways, I’m sure there’s no gold there. However long that guy’s had his story up has probably been enough for a small army and a Uhaul truck to raid the place.

  25. historigal

    On September 7, 2009 at 11:36 am


    Captivating story! Interesting facts.

  26. Momof4

    On September 7, 2009 at 1:06 pm


    Great reading! Thanks for sharing. I liked it.

  27. Gourab Modak

    On September 7, 2009 at 2:15 pm


    Wow. That was an awesome article. I have heard of the Dutchman’s treasure before, but I never knew of all this controversy. Anyways, this article left me speechless.

  28. gary smith

    On September 7, 2009 at 2:41 pm


    very interesting

  29. Sterling Christianson

    On September 7, 2009 at 4:58 pm


    Dreyan, How can you be completely sure?

  30. jessica

    On September 21, 2009 at 6:57 am


    I have actually spoken to john kemm and I truly believe he has found it

  31. Michael Woods

    On September 30, 2009 at 2:10 am


    NAH! He hasnt located diddoly! You can’t ‘locate’ anything unless you’ve ‘located’ it in person. Believe me, I have actually stood on that spot, along with many other (hunters) people, all theu the last century. Lets see, if you look into past accounts of ‘findings’ of it, it was reported found there by a guy in the 1950’s (?), I’d have to look in my books to be sure, but it was nothing also. The entire region around Weavers Needle, including too, if not entirely, Bluff Springs Mountian. I hiked the entire area for 25 years, and approx. 5000 miles, all documented with photos. There’s nothing theres, but solid, big, dacite rocks! Now there’s area where it could be, but it isnt around Weaer’s Needle. You could just ’see’ Weaver’s Needle from the area.

  32. James Burke

    On October 1, 2009 at 6:57 pm


    http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1241305#Post1241305 It’s been verified by Google Earth Team and the White House the peralta maps have been solved. The gold or lack of gold has nothing to do with it at this point in time………………… This is A Major Discovery

  33. James Burke

    On October 1, 2009 at 7:13 pm


    Michael Woods :: THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, WILL BE COMING TO EXAMINE THE AREA, SINCE THE COORDINATES HAVE BEEN POSTED SINCE JULY. THIS WILL GENERATE ALOT OF REVENUE FOR ARIZONAS TOURISM AND LOST DUTCHMAN TREASURE HUNTING. THIS WILL PROOVE TO BE THE MOST FAMOUS AND PROFITABLE DISCOVERY IN HISTORY, AND MR. KEMM IS GENERATING A (SERIOUS AMOUNT OF FAME) FROM THIS AMAZING DISCOVERY, AND THERES NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO TO STOP IT. SO WHY EVEN TRY??? UNLESS (YOU STAND TO LOSE SOMETHING) THEN BY ALL MEANS TRY TRY TRY IN VAIN.

  34. James Burke

    On October 1, 2009 at 7:26 pm


    ALL THE MURDERS BEHEADINGS SHOOTINGS DEATHS AND VANISHINGS, PURELY COINCIDENCE AND MAPS THAT LEAD TO THE SPOT “but it was nothing also. Believe me, I have actually stood on that spot.” “Michael Woods”

  35. James Burke

    On October 1, 2009 at 7:44 pm


    Michael Woods: We are not buying your bull, If I decide to buy the bull, I’ll contact you to drive out after me and haul it home.

  36. James Burke

    On October 1, 2009 at 7:48 pm


    33°26′46.06″N 111°21′44.38″W – 1847 m.

  37. bill mikolay

    On November 24, 2009 at 9:14 am


    i have now walked up the apache trail twice now to look at that exact spot. Nothing. We did find an old mine when we hiked back east, heading back in other direction. It was late. Dark so we had to get back to our camp. We came back the next day and we couldnt find it. I swear it was right there and then it was gone. We have since gone back twice and even left at the same time, thinking the sun would cast a shadow over the mines entance at that time. Nothing. I have been hiking for 25 years and never get lost. This is a first for me. No one can hide what I saw. I guess I just missed it. We will be back someday and I will find that spot again. There was an overhang of slate above the enterance but at the time, it was as clear as could be that it was a cave or mine. NO pilings outside of it. Why would someone go to the extreme of removing the pilings. Even if you wanted to keep it a secret you cant move pilings like I saw in the mine enterance. Makes me think that deeper in that mine is a place to throw them. or something. Didnt make sense. No visible wood for the first 40-50 feet to hold up the place either. It was kinda scarey but figured as long as we didnt touch anything, it wasnt going to fall.

  38. Hobbit

    On November 26, 2009 at 4:27 am


    I cant wait to go up this spring! guess ill be sure and take my pick and shovel. I once met an old time miner 86 years old he tunnelled 15 feet deep shafts though solid rock in four weeks by hand and by himself. his name was C.W. Guilliams he said His Advise was keep an eye out for a vein of white quartz. I bielieve he used Metal detectors and Gieger counters as well

  39. Hobbit

    On November 26, 2009 at 4:40 am


    The application of the mercury vapor test over the Superstition Wilderness Area found the region to be highly mineralized.

  40. Hobbit

    On November 26, 2009 at 5:19 am


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  41. Hobbit

    On November 26, 2009 at 11:19 am


    “GOOD GOLD HUNTING” IN THE HIGH TECH “GOLDEN AGE” LET THE “NEWEST GOLD RUSH BEGIN!”

  42. Hobbit

    On November 26, 2009 at 3:06 pm


    SPECIAL PROVISIONS WILDERNESS ACT
    (d) The following special provisions are hereby made:
    (1) Within wilderness areas designated by this Act the use of aircraft or motorboats, where these uses have already become established, may be permitted to continue subject to such restrictions as the Secretary of Agriculture deems desirable. In addition, such measure may be taken as may be necessary in the control of fire, insects, and diseases, subject to such conditions as the Secretary deems desirable.

    (2) (Nothing in this Act shall prevent) within national forest wilderness areas any activity, including prospecting, for the purpose of gathering information about mineral or other resources, (if such activity is carried on in a manner compatible with the preservation of the wilderness environment.)

  43. Mike Snyder

    On January 4, 2010 at 4:55 pm


    LOL If i found the gold the last thing i would would hand out a detailed map of its location or tell eanyone. And if he is that dumb where is his proof?

  44. Jim

    On January 18, 2010 at 6:59 am


    “And if he is that dumb where is his proof?” Good Question Have You Done A Complete Research On This Guy John V. Kemm. Obviously There Has To Be Some Type Of Proof? Without Completely Doing My Research On John V. Kemm And Everything He Has To Say i just dont know? Also It Might Help To Research The History Of The Lost Dutchman Mine, before Masking Any True Judgement Call. P.S. Just A hunch, Ill Make A Bet This Guy John V. Kemm Has Researched The Dutchman And Every Thing About It Completely And Thoroughly Before He Would Ever Make Any Claims Im sure You And Every One Will Find Out He HAS TONS OF EVEDENCE And Proof! And One Step Further You Could Check It Out For Yourself? The Gold Mine That Is!

  45. Mirawho

    On January 19, 2010 at 4:06 am


    First off and foremost, the so called “Peralta Stones” have never been proven to be authentic. There has been a lot of controversy over the stones and it is kind of odd they were find by the side of a well driven road all of a sudden out of nowhere. So, just because you have used the stones and the landmarks on the stones does not mean you are even close.

    The fact that the area of the Superstition Mountain Wilderness has been surveyed by Department of Interior Bureau of Mines in 1983 and the area has again (like other surveys) showed that it is not indigenous to gold has not swayed anyone. There has only been one mine there to produce any gold and that was the Palmer Mine. The are generally would produce copper and some silver, but mainly copper.

    I love the Dutchman story and the thought of finding a great treasure in gold is very exciting. But, it appears this is still mainly legend. There are other more reputable lost treasures that have not been found so the more elusive Dutchman probably never will. I read a book by a guy claiming to have found the mine a few years back and had photos of where he suspected the mine to be.

    But I think the most promising of stories of the stones is that they indicate mission locations and some possible Jesuit diggings, but not the Dutchman.

    Oh well

  46. PHIL

    On January 20, 2010 at 3:45 am


    1880 Two young soldiers travelling through the Superstitions picked up some gold from an old mine and tunnel. They went back into the Superstitions and never returned. Later, both were found with bullet holes in their heads
    1884 Pedro Ortega was found thirty feet from the home of Jacob Waltz. It was reported that Waltz killed him with a shotgun.
    1891 On 10/25, a legend was born the day the Dutchman died.
    1892 The last known Superstition death caused by an Apache attack was that of Charles Dobie (no relation to Gillis).
    1896 The first be-heading of the Superstitions happened to Elisha M. Reavis, “The Madman of the Superstitions”. There were no clues as to who killed him.
    1910 A women’s skeleton was found high in a Superstition Mountain cave. Gold nuggets were found next to the nude body.
    1931 Dr. Adolf Ruth’s death created a rebirth of the Legend.
    1934 The Superstitions claimed Adam Stewart.
    1936 Roma O’Hal was hiking and died from a fall (it was free).
    1938 Guy “Hematite” Frank was found dead with a sack of gold at his side. Another “accidental” death.
    1948 James Cravey (62) disappeared while seeking the mine. His skeleton was found first, then 6 months later, his skull.
    1949 James Kidd (no relation to Jesse or Billy) disappeared.
    1951 Dr. John Burns of Oregon was found with a bullet hole through his body. Although there were no powder burns and testimony from a ballistics expert indicated otherwise, the coroner’s jury ruled it accidental death or suicide.
    1952 Joseph Kelly of Ohio, went into the Superstitions and was never seen again. … Ross Bley and Charles Harshbarger, California youths, also disappeared.
    1955 Charles Massey, hunting with a 22, was found shot between the eyes by a heavy-caliber rifle bullet. The coroner ruled it an accidental death resulting from a ricochet.
    1956 Martin Zywotho from New York, was found with a bullet hole in his right temple. Although his gun was found under the body, the death was ruled suicide.
    1959 Stanley Hernandez was killed by his friend Benjamin Ferreira, after thinking they discovered gold. It was actually “Fool’s Gold” or pyrite. … Robert St. Marie, guard of Celeste Marie Jones, was killed by prospector Edward Piper. In this strange case, Jones was attempting to drill a hole all the way through Weaver’s Needle, thinking that she would surely find the vein of the Lost Dutchman’s gold. Two months after St. Marie was killed, Piper was found dead. An autopsy gave the cause of death as a “perforated ulcer”. … Also in 1959, Lavern Rowlee was shot by Ralph Thomas, who was on a hiking trip. Thomas was attacked by Rowlee and in self-defense, Thomas shot him.
    1960 Another be-headed skull was found with two bullet holes in it. The skull belonged to a Franz Harrer, a student from Austria. … Also during this year, William Harvey Jr.’s skeleton was found, cause of death unknown.
    1961 Children discovered the skeleton of Hilmer Bohen, who had been shot through the head. … Walter Mowry’s bullet-ridden body was found. Cause of death — “suicide”.
    1963 Vance Bacon, while working for Celeste Marie (tunnel through the Needle) Jones, fell from the top of Weaver’s Needle. Supposedly, there were rifle shots and indications of foul play.
    1964 Jay Clapp’s headless skeleton was discovered, but his skull has never been found. … Richard and Robert Kremis were found dead at the bottom of a high cliff. … Also during this year, an elderly couple was found murdered in an automobile.
    1970 Long-term prospector, Al Morrow, was killed by a boulder that fell into the tunnel that he was digging.
    1973 Charles Lewing shot Ladislas Guerrero in self defense at the Robert “Crazy Jake” Jacob’s campsite.
    1976 A gunshot killed Howard Polling, who was prospecting.
    1977 Dennis Brown died from a gunshot wound.
    1978 Manuel Valdez was murdered.
    1980 Rick Fenning’s skeleton was found.

  47. PHIL

    On January 20, 2010 at 3:46 am


    1931 Dr. Adolf Ruth\’s death created a rebirth of the Legend.
    1934 The Superstitions claimed Adam Stewart.
    1936 Roma O\’Hal was hiking and died from a fall (it was free).
    1938 Guy \”Hematite\” Frank was found dead with a sack of gold at his side. Another \”accidental\” death.
    1948 James Cravey (62) disappeared while seeking the mine. His skeleton was found first, then 6 months later, his skull.
    1949 James Kidd (no relation to Jesse or Billy) disappeared.
    1951 Dr. John Burns of Oregon was found with a bullet hole through his body. Although there were no powder burns and testimony from a ballistics expert indicated otherwise, the coroner\’s jury ruled it accidental death or suicide.
    1952 Joseph Kelly of Ohio, went into the Superstitions and was never seen again. … Ross Bley and Charles Harshbarger, California youths, also disappeared.
    1955 Charles Massey, hunting with a 22, was found shot between the eyes by a heavy-caliber rifle bullet. The coroner ruled it an accidental death resulting from a ricochet.
    1956 Martin Zywotho from New York, was found with a bullet hole in his right temple. Although his gun was found under the body, the death was ruled suicide.
    1959 Stanley Hernandez was killed by his friend Benjamin Ferreira, after thinking they discovered gold. It was actually \”Fool\’s Gold\” or pyrite. … Robert St. Marie, guard of Celeste Marie Jones, was killed by prospector Edward Piper. In this strange case, Jones was attempting to drill a hole all the way through Weaver\’s Needle, thinking that she would surely find the vein of the Lost Dutchman\’s gold. Two months after St. Marie was killed, Piper was found dead. An autopsy gave the cause of death as a \”perforated ulcer\”. … Also in 1959, Lavern Rowlee was shot by Ralph Thomas, who was on a hiking trip. Thomas was attacked by Rowlee and in self-defense, Thomas shot him.
    1960 Another be-headed skull was found with two bullet holes in it. The skull belonged to a Franz Harrer, a student from Austria. … Also during this year, William Harvey Jr.\’s skeleton was found, cause of death unknown.
    1961 Children discovered the skeleton of Hilmer Bohen, who had been shot through the head. … Walter Mowry\’s bullet-ridden body was found. Cause of death — \”suicide\”.
    1963 Vance Bacon, while working for Celeste Marie (tunnel through the Needle) Jones, fell from the top of Weaver\’s Needle. Supposedly, there were rifle shots and indications of foul play.
    1964 Jay Clapp\’s headless skeleton was discovered, but his skull has never been found. … Richard and Robert Kremis were found dead at the bottom of a high cliff. … Also during this year, an elderly couple was found murdered in an automobile.
    1970 Long-term prospector, Al Morrow, was killed by a boulder that fell into the tunnel that he was digging.
    1973 Charles Lewing shot Ladislas Guerrero in self defense at the Robert \”Crazy Jake\” Jacob\’s campsite.
    1976 A gunshot killed Howard Polling, who was prospecting.
    1977 Dennis Brown died from a gunshot wound.
    1978 Manuel Valdez was murdered.
    1980 Rick Fenning\’s skeleton was found.

  48. Gina Daveys

    On January 20, 2010 at 4:02 am


    Walter Mowry\’s bullet-ridden body was found. Cause of death — \”suicide\”.????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  49. Bart Williams

    On January 21, 2010 at 11:11 am


    “The application of the mercury vapor test over the Superstition Wilderness Area found the region to be highly mineralized.” (HIGHLY MINERALIZED!) USGS MAP SHOWS MINES IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA NEAR BLUFF SPRING MOUNTAIN http://www.superstition-sar.org/downloads/weavers_needle.pdf Also The Latest On The PERALTA MAPS ARE NOW “PROVEN” TO BE REAL! Since they line up perfectly, with Mr. kemms location in fact the location, and the maps are very real.

  50. LDM SUPPORTER

    On January 22, 2010 at 5:55 pm


    (LOL If i found the gold the last thing i would would hand out a detailed map of its location or tell anyone. And if he is that dumb where is his proof?) Wait a minute didnt all those unfortinate victims do exactly that, as they did not hand out a detailed map of its location to anyone? im no rocket scientist but you give the greatest advise ive ever heard.’ And if he is that dumb where is his proof?” probably the old adage may apply here DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES! when someone is dead or vanished its hard for them to show proof. maybee even impossible?

  51. minehunter

    On February 14, 2010 at 10:31 am


    Mr,Kemm is off the mark a wee bit.He probably has never set foot in the mountains.He is obviously an armchair explorer.
    Check this out,where John has posted over 500 times in the last few months.
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,298654.0.html

  52. Bowtrol

    On March 21, 2010 at 5:40 pm


    This is a great post.I have really enjoyed it

  53. Resveratrol Healthblog

    On April 9, 2010 at 5:42 pm


    Good luck to those that are trying to find it!

  54. Thyromine

    On May 18, 2010 at 7:11 am


    I hardly comment on blogs but this was truely a useful information to me and I just want to say thanks for sharing.

  55. ray halsey

    On August 23, 2010 at 11:17 pm


    has anyone been there yet?

  56. Sam Wright

    On September 19, 2010 at 10:07 pm


    The mine is actually a cavern implanted in the ground, somewhat similar to the caves one finds in New Mexico. As a young teenager, i and four friends located such a mine by accident. We were camping in the area when one of us was trying to capture a snake which slid into the ground, after removing several rocks we found a hole which we enlarged by removing some rocks and then all of us crawled into the hole with flashlights . The hole became very large and we found ourselves in a large amphitheatre like cave. it was immense. there were old oil lamps , picks and shovels and some old diaries. None of us at the time were interested in the diaries at the time, but we took some of them with us when we went out of the cavern.This was in 1959.The one cavern led to another cavern which led to other caverns, in one of the caverns was a large cigar shaped home of some sort, problem was, there was no door to get in, the thing was covered with dirt. no windows,no wheels nothing.We saw dazzling lights or what looked like lights on the face of the rock, chipping off some of these rocks, each of us took some out of the cavern.after crawling out of the cavern,we covered up the hole by placing large boulders in the entrance. It was a great time to talk about what we found at our campsite.We promised each other that we would never tell anyone what we found and some day we would return. Unfortunately, for some of us, there will be no return, 2 of us died in viet nam. As far as i know, no one has ever returned to this cavern. However, a few days after our camping trip ended, we went to the Phoenix area and went to a rock and mineral store to show the proprietor what we had, and to our amazement, the owner bought from us the rocks that we showed him. $2 was alot of money back then, the owner gave us a total of $35 for what we had. We thought the rocks were fools gold, Today, I know better, the rocks were pure gold ore. I never really thought about the situation,but now that gold is $1250 and more an oz. i think its time that i returned to the cavern with a couple of generators and a winch.
    As far as the diaries were concerned,we did read them, where they are now is probably in some dump. But as i remember what they said, some of the words referred to names that i have never heard of . Could this be the lost dutchmans mine, could be for all i know, but back then, when i was a kid, the legend was just that , a legend and as a kid, i didn’t really care.

  57. digest it

    On January 18, 2011 at 12:40 pm


    Was the dutchman not a boat ?

  58. Patrick Bernauw

    On January 18, 2011 at 4:17 pm


    @digest it: the flying one, yes.

  59. Michael Woods

    On June 15, 2011 at 4:28 am


    Mr. James Burke? I remember you. You probrably don’t even remember me, lol. I really don’t care if you buy my bull or not. I’m just saying, been there, done that, lol. I believe this is all just hipe to draw tourists to the area….and maybe a few more to their deaths. Kinda like the Utah hikers that came up dead right out there close to that area. Yellow peak if I recall. Just a bit NW of where that supposed mine is. If everyone would do a little research, (Not sure of name, but sure of previous claim) McGill, back in the older days, claims to have found it in the almost exact same local. And Phil, you’ve done your research pretty well. Over 350 missing person reports since 1876, and only 120 or so bodies recovered. There’s got to be a pretty large pile of skeletans out there somewhere. I recall one account I read of a woman who claimed someone held her and her husband hostage, killed her husband in front of her. She managed to escape, and in so doing on her ‘exit’ from the ‘cave’, she passed a very large funnel shaped hole full of skeletans. I’ve always wondered if that was the ‘caverna’. I used to be well known down there, by LDM hunters, and forest rangers alike. I knew the Superstition Wilderness area Supervising Ranger personally. (Tried to get me to join the trail maintenance crews). Yes, I have hiked them mountians, stood on about every spot, campground, place ever mentioned in any book or story. I have also located may places, not marked on any map but my own. I’ve mingle with the awesome author’s of the books, and still communicate with some. I photo documented every trip, and keep a descriptive journal. I found artifacts, relics, nad some of the ‘old timers’ camps. I found a camp on Picacho Butte with a coffee pot still sitting in the fire ring. When I lifted it, something clunked inside. Inside was the address and phone number (5 digits, lol), which was appropriate for the era. But this gentleman and author, had long since retired to the great hunting grounds. I’ve always had buddies with me out there, so none of my story’s are ‘BULL’. They can all be proven. And frankly, I have nothing to lose. But I have memory full of good times looking, hiking, and exploring them awesome mountians. Unfortunately, a spinal disease has stopped my efforts to go back. But maybe one day I will, by horse, or something. One thing I will say…there is gold out there. I’ve seen the governments own research on geology of the area, and I cant believe they’d lie through their teeth about there being no gold out there. They just want ‘control’ over it all. Kinda like bulldozing Reevis Ranch house, instead of letting ‘Friends of Reevis Group’ restore it. Anywho’s, thats no bull. Advice to all…..don’t go in there without alot of water (if you dont know where it is), carry a gun for the bad *cough* ‘critters’, dont rely on a map to tell you where water is. Don’t misjudge your hiking distance, or times. You may get caught in the dark.(I also volunteered for search and rescues).
    Don’t eat the cactus(except prickly pear, and saguro fruit), *its a myth* you could get hepatitus from it, or something worse. Dress appropriately, its the desert, it’ll shred you. If you get lost, don’t panic, relax, and think it thru. I know for fact that alot of the canyons look the same from below. Don’t be stupid, and climb steep slopes with no trail. Small rocks (marbles) will send you tumbling. Don’t take chances. If you returning out the same way, mark your trail in your own fashion so you’ll know the way for sure. And, if its raining anywhere near the supers, don’t stay to long in washes. My friends and I have seen West Boulder canyon looking like the Colorado river, seriously! Otherwise, have fun out there. PS. Mr Burke, you wont be driving it out, lol.

  60. Michael Woods

    On June 15, 2011 at 4:35 am


    Mr. James Burke? I remember you. You probrably dont even remember me, lol. I really dont care if you buy my bull or not. Im just saying, been there, done that, lol. I believe this is all just hipe to draw tourists to the area….and maybe a few more to their deaths. Kinda like the Utah hikers that came up dead right out there close to that area. Yellow peak if I recall. Just a bit NW of where that supposed mine is. If everyone would do a little research, (Not sure of name, but sure of previous claim) McGill, back in the older days, claims to have found it in the almost exact same local. And Phil, youve done your research pretty well. Over 350 missing person reports since 1876, and only 120 or so bodies recovered. Theres got to be a pretty large pile of skeletans out there somewhere. I recall one account I read of a woman who claimed someone held her and her husband hostage, killed her husband in front of her. She managed to escape, and in so doing on her exit from the cave, she passed a very large funnel shaped hole full of skeletans. Ive always wondered if that was the caverna. I used to be well known down there, by LDM hunters, and forest rangers alike. I knew the Superstition Wilderness area Supervising Ranger personally. (Tried to get me to join the trail maintenance crews). Yes, I have hiked them mountians, stood on about every spot, campground, place ever mentioned in any book or story. I have also located may places, not marked on any map but my own. Ive mingle with the awesome authors of the books, and still communicate with some. I photo documented every trip, and keep a descriptive journal. I found artifacts, relics, and some of the old timers camps. I found a camp on Picacho Butte with a coffee pot still sitting in the fire ring. When I lifted it, something clunked inside. Inside was the address and phone number (5 digits, lol), which was appropriate for the era. But this gentleman and author, had long since retired to the great hunting grounds. Ive always had buddies with me out there, so none of my storys are BULL. They can all be proven. And frankly, I have nothing to lose. But I have memory full of good times looking, hiking, and exploring them awesome mountians. Unfortunately, a spinal disease has stopped my efforts to go back. But maybe one day I will, by horse, or something. One thing I will say…there is gold out there. Ive seen the governments own research on geology of the area, and I cant believe theyd lie through their teeth about there being no gold out there. They just want control over it all. Kinda like bulldozing Reevis Ranch house, instead of letting Friends of Reevis Group restore it. Anywhos, thats no bull. Advice to all…..dont go in there without alot of water (if you dont know where it is), carry a gun for the bad *cough* critters, dont rely on a map to tell you where water is. Dont misjudge your hiking distance, or times. You may get caught in the dark.(I also volunteered for search and rescues).
    Dont eat the cactus(except prickly pear, and saguro fruit), *its a myth* you could get hepatitus from it, or something worse. Dress appropriately, its the desert, it will shred you. If you get lost, dont panic, relax, and think it thru. I know for fact that alot of the canyons look the same from below. Dont be stupid, and climb steep slopes with no trail. Small rocks (marbles) will send you tumbling. Dont take chances. If your returning out the same way, mark your trail in your own fashion so youll know the way for sure. And, if its raining anywhere near the supers, dont stay to long in washes. My friends and I have seen West Boulder canyon looking like the Colorado river, seriously! Otherwise, have fun out there. PS. Mr Burke, you wont be driving it out, lol. (No mechanized equipment/vehicles)

  61. MrMTurbo

    On July 2, 2011 at 12:09 am


    I’ve been hiking in there and sneaking gold out for years. My father showed me that location when I was 10 and his father showed him. All the ‘easy’ gold is gone.
    MrMTurbo

  62. Dwight L. Harris

    On July 2, 2011 at 2:12 pm


    33°26′46.06N 111°21′44.38W.kmz (8957590 downloads)
    Thats over 8 million downloads John V. Kemm currently holds the world record for the most KML downloads on google earth.

  63. provillus

    On October 21, 2011 at 12:28 pm


    If it’s true, it’s really great. The mistery around this mine makes it more famous. I would like to go there someday.

  64. provillus

    On January 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm


    Its really nice feeling to interact with you guys like through a blog, today I just only want you to say that gold mine never created by someone else, its inside your self, you have to find it out !

  65. David

    On March 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm


    very nice artical and video but i am sorry to say that the mine that he has found is not the lost dutchman’s mine, in fact it is the mine shown on the trail map that has the numbers “2=3 (O) 18=7. if you put yourself on top of weever’s needle and look in that area, you will see the numbers and the mine. I can show you all the mines listed on all the stone maps and this one is not the lost dutchman, that one is a bit farther north from there.
    I will say that the Priest map can be seen just west of the needle and the trail on the trail map is south of the needle and the heart is north as well as the rest of the trail map is east of the needle along with the horse map. I would be happy to show you the priest map and the numbers map if you ask.

  66. David

    On March 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm


    very nice artical and video but i am sorry to say that the mine that he has found is not the lost dutchman’s mine, in fact it is the mine shown on the trail map that has the numbers “2=3 (O) 18=7. if you put yourself on top of weever’s needle and look in that area, you will see the numbers and the mine. I can show you all the mines listed on all the stone maps and this one is not the lost dutchman, that one is a bit farther north from there.
    I will say that the Priest map can be seen just west of the needle and the trail on the trail map is south of the needle and the heart is north as well as the rest of the trail map is east of the needle along with the horse map. I would be happy to show you the priest map and the numbers map if you ask.

  67. David

    On March 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm


    very nice artical and video but i am sorry to say that the mine that he has found is not the lost dutchman’s mine, in fact it is the mine shown on the trail map that has the numbers “2=3 (O) 18=7. if you put yourself on top of weever’s needle and look in that area, you will see the numbers and the mine. I can show you all the mines listed on all the stone maps and this one is not the lost dutchman, that one is a bit farther north from there.
    I will say that the Priest map can be seen just west of the needle and the trail on the trail map is south of the needle and the heart is north as well as the rest of the trail map is east of the needle along with the horse map. I would be happy to show you the priest map and the numbers map if you ask.

  68. David

    On March 20, 2012 at 4:27 pm


    my email is david_muise (@) yahoo.ca.

  69. Tom

    On March 22, 2012 at 8:24 am


    THE MINE HE FOUND IS INFACT THE LOSTDUTCHMAN

  70. Tom

    On March 22, 2012 at 8:36 am


    More specifically the heart of cibola. The white buffalo as confirmed by the native american church.

  71. Tom

    On March 22, 2012 at 1:05 pm


    Here is Kemm’s latest video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknKRCaGRyA “Cibola” or “White buffalo” is an American bison (American buffalo) that is considered to be sacred signs in several Native American religions, and thus have great spiritual importance in those cultures and is visited for prayer and other religious ceremonies.

  72. Brent

    On July 28, 2012 at 5:18 pm


    I recall a man who used to hike in the Superstition mountains to meditate and pray.
    After he died, his family and friends brought his ashes, at his request, to release them over the cliff where he would often go.
    At the moment the ashes were thrown over the cliff, a gust of wind picked up and formed a whirlwind right at the edge, picking up his ashes.
    The ashes formed into the form of a man, and held there for several minutes until all saw it, and then disolved again.
    They understood it to mean that there is an afterlife and a Christ as Savior that this man often spoke of in his life.

  73. xphantoms

    On July 30, 2012 at 1:55 pm


    Like, thank for share information.

  74. Joseph

    On November 7, 2012 at 6:10 am


    I been to the peralta 1847 gold mine, who interested contact me. Joseph MoonGod

  75. Ghostrider88

    On December 2, 2012 at 1:49 pm


    I had the privliage to live near the base of the mighty Superstition Mointain which gave me the oppertunity to walk & ride on horse on the many trails going thru the area, having a interest in the Dutchmans mine & obtainig way over a 100 books on the mine, meeting people who were actually dutch hunters & some authors of some of the books concerning the Dutchman , the Mountain, the mine & etc & having the oppertunity to sit around camp fires with these true dutch hunters & listening to their stories about their searching for the mine plus stories of many of their friends who hunted the mine but have now passed on has gave me lots clues on the subject of this mine, not clues to the exact location of the mine but clues on the actual stories on the mine, all I can say is the stories in the many books along with the so called clues & one of the main clues is all about weavers needle where so many believe the mine or treasure is in or around the needle, one of the clues is about the ” shadow of the needle” talking about a certain day of the year & at 4:00 pm the shadow of the needle falls on the exact location of the mine ! sounds so mysterious & so exiciting to be looking for a shadow to fall on a certain spot, well, this clue & the other all about the 3 red hills & a certain rock that looks like a face are to me all made up to keep the ” treasure hunters” looking in the wrong spot, also so many vistors come to this area because of this mine & spend big bucks on books, trips back in the mountain on horse back, meals, lodging, supplies, souviners & etc, these so curious vistors give quite a few people in the area a ful time job yr round, do I think there is a actual mine ? the answear is YES ? there is either one or was one & I actually think it has been found yrs ago by a certain group of the actual dutch hunters, sitting around taliking to these old time hunters & listening to their stories compared to the storeis in the books are way different, & a few of these people are well off & have their own bussiness & are smart enough to keep the legand alive to keep the money flowing in, the mine is not around weavers needle at all but farther back in the mountain way to the NE of the Pertla trail head or the quater circle ranch, therr is a old military road that actually came from the canyon lake area & goes down near to where there was a old RR station which was Hewitt station & than on over to Pinal ( Now gone) but close to Picket Post Mountain, on this old road if you want to spend a day climbing up to the top you can see weavers needle, another clue ” you can see the needle from the mine but cant see the mine from the road” its not easy to seriously hunt this mine & one wont realize that until they start to get off the trails & start climbing the rough & rugged terrain of this area, has the mine been found? your guess is as good as mine, all I can tell you is there is no other place on earth like the Superstition Mountain area & its a very mysterious place , a very primitive & hostile place & can be very dangerous, remember every thing in the desert either bites, stings or sticks the desert does not forgive if you are careless so be careful & stay alert, I never found the mine, did find a few small nuggets & many beatiful rocks but I for sure found a place to hunt treasure & to all who go there be careful or the desert will claim you, Ghostrider88

  76. John V. Kemm

    On December 24, 2012 at 12:31 pm


    “There has been no lost gold mine more found in history, as the most lost or the most famous as “Cibola” other than “Quivira” “I Found The Lost Dutchman Historic Treasure Cibola And The Lost Rhoades Historic Treasure Quivira Using Google Earth….” Quoted by John V. Kemm

  77. John V. Kemm

    On December 24, 2012 at 12:38 pm


    http://www.apachetrailtours.com/ Start off on a four wheel jeep tour then roll up your sleeves and learn how to pan for gold in the very place that many a prospector struck it rich in the 1800’s! We supply everything you need and your personal tour guide will teach you the art of panning. Learn how to tell the difference between real gold and “Fool’s gold”. This educational experience is filled with fun and perhaps even a souvenir of found gold for show and tell when you get back home!

  78. John V. Kemm

    On December 24, 2012 at 12:42 pm


    http://www.facebook.com/CibolaAndQuiviraSevenCitiesOfGold John V. Kemm Quoted “I Found The Lost Dutchman Historic Treasure “Cibola” And The Lost Rhoades Historic Treasure “Quivira” Using Google Earth….” © 2012 National Trust for Historic Preservation. All Rights Reserved.

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