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Was The Dropping Of The Atomic bomb Justified?

The pros and cons of the decision of dropping the bomb.

War, death, and fire are the only smells around you. Hundreds of your allies are lying in a dead rotting heap. Enemies are blowing their selves up right in front of you, throwing their guts and scorched body parts all over. War isn’t a welcome sight in the eyes of people, but some had to live in it and survive.

When the U.S. was at war with Japan (towards the end of World War 2), soldiers saw many things like what was described. Some even saw worse. I believe that dropping the 2 atomic bombs onto Japan was justified. Too many people were dying because of the war, the cost of the war was skyrocketing, and U.S. POW’s were given the harshest and most unreasonable punishments by the Japanese. Some were beaten, some were forced to kill their own, and some were buried alive. Many unusual punishments like these were given to torture the POW’s.

Over all, the total number of people killed from both atomic bombs adds up to be about 240,000. Many people died instantly, some later died from radiation and burns or other wounds. It is indeed sad that 240,000 people had to die but, compared to how many would’ve died if the war continued, 240,000 is nothing. It is estimated that if we just continued fighting the war and didn’t drop the bombs, then another million or so people would’ve died.

Other actions could’ve been taken like negotiation, but the fighting style of the Japanese spoke for itself. They would rather take a grenade strapped to their chest than be touched by an American. Negotiating would’ve been inevitable. Dropping the bombs saved way more lives than it took, and in a war, saving as many lives as possible is the best way to go.

Unspeakable things happened to the American soldiers that were captured by the Japanese. Prisoners of war were tortured to death. Some were put into these marches, called Death Marches. The Japanese would line the American soldiers up into lines and would march them for long periods of time. If a soldier fell, he would often be stabbed by bayonets until he stood again or another soldier would be forced to knock that soldier out and bury him alive. One soldier reports that he had to bury his friend alive and had to knock his friend out again after he woke up while being buried. It was a mental and physical torture for the soldiers and it needed to stop.

The Japanese wouldn’t let the prisoners go. In some ways it was like another Holocaust. No one can debate that it was right to continue to let Americans suffer and die during the war. If we would’ve waited, more could’ve died, if we would’ve launched an invasion, more would’ve been captured but if we dropped the bomb, all of it would’ve stopped.

The cost of World War 2 was more than all of the wars that he U.S. was involved in put together. It cost about 300 billion dollars to fight in this war; to stay in it would’ve depleted the U.S. of money and resources. Metal, gasoline, and other natural resources would’ve been used up and the U.S. might not have been able to win the war. The national debt is high right now, but think of the debt the U.S. would’ve been in if the war continued.

The dropping of the bomb ended the war, which ended the spending of money in the war. If we would’ve stopped the war, come back home and waited for Japan’s deteriorating military situation, then the war would’ve been brought to U.S. soil. The Japanese would’ve continued to attack us and the attacks would’ve come to the U.S. soil, killing American civilians making the toll for the war rise still.

In conclusion, the war was very horrible and no one wanted to kill more than they had to. Dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved more people than it killed. Some people think it was wrong, but the truth is, if you analyze the facts, the dropping of the bomb was justified. We knew of its devastation and still used it because we knew that if we didn’t, the war would’ve taken a much heavier toll. Continue to believe what you want to believe but just take into mind everything that I have explained. All of it is correct information that was gathered into one report.

After you have read this report, do you believe that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified?

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  1. Wasabi117

    On October 23, 2007 at 7:18 pm


    BRAVO! This is the exact type of stuff people need to hear. eople just think of the deaths that happened, but there could have been more like a million. People need to think about what could have happened and need to think about the future.

  2. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:18 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

  3. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:19 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

  4. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:20 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

  5. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:21 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

  6. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:22 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

  7. T. Aushten

    On October 25, 2007 at 10:24 am


    I agree with Wasabi. People are to general about this. They only think about the deaths but the thing is, there could have been much more than there were. This needs to go out man! Great stuff.

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  10. Daniel

    On March 13, 2008 at 10:17 pm


    The comment I am leaving may very well be the only rational, because the others appear to have been written by sycophants.
    First of all, when debating, never should you mention yourself or associate yourself with either side; lacking neutrality causes issues with credibility. Secondly, avoid using conjuntions, because it’s informal. Thirdly, do a little research, then develop an independent thought; tell me, how on earth could it accurately be predicted the loss of lives had the war continued? Just because your government says so does not make it so; the US army practiced unprecedented (for our nation) military expertise, as exemplified by the D-Day (Operation Overlord) Invasion to liberate France. Undoubtedly, the Allied forces could have prolonged the war without fear of the exponential losses you claim; you seem to forget how well they had done throughout the entire war, even without the US.
    I am agitated by your one-sided reporting; the Allied tortued POWs of war as well, equally, if not greater. Life is valuable, no matter how you cut it, and none is moreso than another. So, in that respect, why undermine the lives of the side opposing your views, is it because they represent and defend cultural differences you cannot tolerate?
    One of the greatest repurcussions of the war, the competition to nuclear proliferation, happened because of this. The Cold War was started, in essence, by an unnecessarily brutal and inhumane method to end the war, which had, at that point, nearly reached its conclusion. I dare say, had you been a citizen at the time of the attacks, your opinion would be more educated, because you would understand the trauma, and the effects persisting there even today.

  11. Daniel, disgruntled patriot

    On March 13, 2008 at 10:29 pm


    Furthermore, you equate death to economics; undoubtedly, the nation was justified in entering the war, which it should have sooner, yet it took a selfish motive (retribution specifically to Japan for the Pearl Harbor attack) to compel it to.So then, despite Germany’s conquest of Europe and their systematic annihilation of a people, US intervention was driven only by revenge, not the necessity to see justice done?

    I think the greatest fallacy of this entire report is right at the beginning; the title itself. Completely ironic that you portrayed the Japanese as savage, didn’t conceive the Allied might’ve behaved similarly, and most of all, NEVER discussed the cons of dropping the bomb, focusing only on misguided pros, unsupported by facts or any compassion in general.
    To answer your rhetorical question at the end; yes, I STILL ADAMANTLY oppose the decision, and Truman’s authorization was purely for imperialist cause. If anything, my opinion has been inflamed since this report sparked my thoughts and teachings.

    If you’d like to debate further, you can feel free respond, so long as you have an educated rebuttal.

  12. a person

    On March 19, 2008 at 3:58 pm


    ok so i am doing this school report and thank you so much i learned so much about this. I am so gunna use some of this in my report!!!
    im suppose to be pro for should have the us used atomic bombs on japan. and i chose pro. and we have to write an essay.
    thanks

    but then again i feel bad for the ones who have lost lives and the ones who had to suffer

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    On March 20, 2008 at 9:01 am


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  16. Jey

    On March 23, 2008 at 12:55 pm


    I totally agree with Daniel. I do not think that you have explained how it was wrong to drop the bomb.

    I also think you are an American who would not understand others.

  17. keyara

    On March 27, 2008 at 10:51 am


    this is horrrible.
    so many people have sufferen and slowly died. some people have had perminate damage done to their bodies. and the sad thing is that these people were innocent!

    how would u feel if all of a sudden your whle family died and you had scars all over your bady from melted skin when you had no part in the war? then ended up slowly died about 10 years later after everyone treats you different and always stares at you like your some kind of allien!

    you slowly die of cancer that is slowly and painfully eating away your insided

    all just because we couldnt sit down like adults and work things out!!!!!!!

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  21. some guy

    On April 28, 2008 at 11:38 pm


    The argument was pretty one-sided.

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  23. melanie

    On April 30, 2008 at 9:06 pm


    Your argument is pretty one-sided and informal, I have to admit. It would have been stronger if you had more statistics and it was more fact-based.

    But in your defense, if we had continued without our alternative invasion plan, then more Americans on our side would have been lost, an estimated 250,000-1 million. Also citizens were encouraged to commit suicide if they were going to be captured. So the war would have been pretty grusome.

    For the most part, the deaths caused by the atomic bomb were painless, although I feel sorry for the ones that weren’t.

    You’re definitely right about our financial situation, though. We had already spent millions on a bomb, and we were running low on resources.

  24. josh

    On May 12, 2008 at 8:06 pm


    Japan peaple myte of died from the bomb maybe evan slow deaths but if you think about it if the bomb wasnt droped alot of savilions would of still been lost…

  25. Manisha Sharma

    On May 13, 2008 at 9:39 pm


    Very well said,
    it has changed my prespective,
    i always thought the bombs were unjustified,
    but now i know where you are coming from.
    thanks for the great information
    :)

  26. Frank

    On May 15, 2008 at 7:53 am


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  27. son of satan

    On May 28, 2008 at 7:59 pm


    ……these are some funny comments and thank you person who wrote report and thank you daniel you help me wit my report =]

  28. son of satan

    On May 28, 2008 at 8:04 pm


    though i still am not sure if the bonb should have been droped or not…..but i lean more torwards the make peace and prosper side than war.

  29. ♥ cheeks♥

    On June 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm


    i am in between on this decision yes,i think it should have been dropped like you said millions of American soldiers died but so did Japaneses soldiers. i also think it wasn’t a good idea to drop it because the bomb killed millions of innocent Japaneses people and not every one was for the war, just like not everyone in the U.S. to go to war either. however i do see were you are coming from talking about how the bomb was needed yes in certain areas i can understand but me as a Japaneses Mexican American, i think we did do wrong. two wrong do not make a right. either way millions and billions of people died of the radiation poisoning or from being tortured by soldiers it was still wrong.some might think it was justified and there is no one to change your mind or your opinion, but i don’t think it was justified.

  30. ...

    On June 4, 2008 at 6:08 am


    I completely disagree with this person’s point of view in writing this article. Basically, their only arguments are in the interest of the economy and POW’s and the arguments themselves are weak.

    To dispute this, first of all the Japanese were already willing to surrender before the bomb was dropped. According to historian Alperovitz, “in all probability prior to November 1, 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.” The Japanese also made several attempts to surrender before the bomb. This clearly shows that the bomb DID NOT need to be dropped in order to make the Japanese surrender. Wouldn’t this have been just as good for the POWs?? Rather than taking the 240,000 lives of INNOCENT people including CHILDREN, wouldn’t it have been better to accept the Japanese surrender!!?? The lives of the POWs would have been saved in this way too. I could go on and on and on about why the bombs cannot be justified. Basically, my personal belief is that it is unjust to take the lives of innocent people because of a war they are not involved in.

    But anyway…after all that I must say that I can SLIGHTLY sympathise with the opposing views in SOME ways. I spose the thing is that it did happen and it can’t be taken back!

  31. objective

    On June 5, 2008 at 4:40 am


    well lets not forget that just because a historian stated something doesnt mean they right; and to perssit furhter even though the bombing of japan was harsh there still exists the un ignorable truht that total war was well and truly alive in ww2. The so called innocent civillians of japan were in fact working in the very factories that produced the munitions and weapons for the japanese army. So therfore , was a country is at war with another the entire people are atwar with one another, and so you may not like it but war is war and hard descisions have to be made.

  32. subjectively biased

    On June 5, 2008 at 4:47 am


    yeah i totally agree with objective and all you who keep sayin “more americans would have died” please get over it, its not just them who would have died and you have no real proof that more would have died cuz as we all knoe politicians, governments and presidents all lie.

  33. ♥ cheeks♥

    On June 7, 2008 at 11:39 pm


    i also like totally agre with subjectively biased.

  34. Jess

    On July 17, 2008 at 2:57 am


    We all know about the atrocities the Japanese committed in world world two. Just look at what they did to Australian POW’s at Sandakan. Their tactics were horrible and suicidal.
    But the atomic bombs did not target these perpetrators of such horror. They targeted civilians who had not chosen the government that led them.
    There were alternatives to the atomic bomb. A demonstration at sea perhaps or altering the surrender terms so that the people didn’t fear the Emperor would be deposed. Japan were reportedly very close to surrender.
    The horrible deaths of 200 000 women, children, men and elderly cannot be justified.

  35. no_name

    On October 6, 2008 at 4:11 pm


    Some objectivity would be much appreciated in this piece of writing.

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    On October 14, 2008 at 9:14 am


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  37. ricky rivera

    On November 17, 2008 at 2:24 pm


    thanks so much im doing a debate for school
    i dont like japanese people they eat rice
    one sided arguments work best when ur personally gonna come up wit a defense for the other side

    I agree wit cheeks

  38. Argument Dude

    On November 25, 2008 at 5:16 pm


    I completely agree with keyara. You have to remember that not all japenese people wanted to invade and take over America. Most of Japan didnt even want to take part in the war. I think the American Government could have come up with a more sensible decision for the problem at hand.

  39. person 001

    On December 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm


    thanks it is one sided but it gives us half the info that we need to know if the bomb was justified

  40. SupportUSww2

    On December 28, 2008 at 12:45 am


    I think the bomb is justified if not the soul of the 3000 heroic fighters and allies fought in pearl harbour would not be rest.If you think 200,000 thousand is already a large number how about the attrocities the japanese soldier did in China , in nanjing alone similar figures of victims (infact 300,000 victims) dead under their hands.But wait,that is only a fraction of total death of \\\”26 MILLIONS\\\”. Furthermore, their process of death that only occurs after torturing,rape and killing of innocent children and women are alot worse than the effect of slow death of a nuclear bomb.(If you would to choose between nuke or inhumane torture ,i would choose be nuke LOL)Dealing with the japanese like wat previous US president \\\”When you have to deal with a beast you have to treat him as a beast.\\\”

  41. Gigs

    On January 17, 2009 at 1:30 am


    Japan was already close to surrendering, so the possibility of a longer lasting war and invasion was low at best. And even if I concede the justification of bombing Hiroshima, how can one possibly justify Nagasaki? Its like adding insult to injury times infinity…

  42. Ok Ok.

    On January 19, 2009 at 7:53 pm


    I believe that by no means, under current situations of the world, should it be justified to turn to nuclear warfare. As the results of the catastrophic events that took place on August 6, and August 9, 1945 have been clearly stated, the damage was un-repairable. Many innocent lives were lost and two regions were torn apart. The loss of these lives, to save the lives of many others, defines the true meaning of total war. In 1945, the axis had taken many lives in unjust ways. Had this event not occurred many lives among the allied forces would have been destroyed. So, is it justified to turn to nuclear help to save ones own nation? I believe that the answer is no, but in the case of World War II, there was no choice. Other actions could’ve been taken like negotiation, but the fighting style of the Japanese spoke for itself. Negotiating would have never worked. Dropping the bombs saved way more lives than it took, and, by trying to end a war, it is important to save as much lives as possible. By analyzing the facts, the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima, and Nagasaki was justified. We knew of the devastation that would take place, but we also knew that if we didn’t step up when we had the chance, the war would have taken a much heavier toll. With the invention of atomic weapons, came the simplest way to destroy all of humanity. This event is a very bitter-sweet event, dropping the bomb did end World War II, but created a monster that has the capability of destroying the world several times over again.

    “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war that we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living.”
    ~Omar Bradley

  43. ok ok - Dm of kelowna

    On January 19, 2009 at 7:55 pm


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  44. Ben

    On January 27, 2009 at 10:07 am


    Daniel, disgruntled patriot– hit the nail on the head. His arguement was devloped and presented in a much more realistic and unbiased representation. My main point would be when people use the words Economy, or Financial; in the same sentence as Death or murder; then we should all be worried. Government’s are not to be trusted,the forfathers of democracy stated this, and these rediculous figures of estmated deaths should the war had continued, is a complete joke. We need only look at the U.S Government’s estimation of the culpruts of 9/11 to see they attempt to instantly justify their pre concieved intentions, with propaganda. The Japanese were devasted, incapacitated and ultimatly on already defeated. The precontext to the cold war explains everything. Truman wanted to send a clear messege to Stalin, America’s knowingly future enemy. Thus the bomb was dropped. Moral? It doesn’t even bear asking. Innocent civilians died, so the masters of war could get a peg up on the future enemy: The Reds.

  45. sandra

    On February 1, 2009 at 6:32 pm


    i think i learned more fom the comments than anything else…
    but umm some of the things you said were pretty resonable.
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  47. Grace Smith

    On February 10, 2009 at 5:12 am


    I think with this subject you have to be carefull when making a comment both sides of this debate are very valid and i dont think the world or the countries involved will ever decide if it was justified or not.And i dont think any side will get rid completily of there guilt for what both sides did.But i Think i am leaning towards the justified side but i dont ,like everyone else,i will ever truly make my mind up.

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  49. SourSkittleMonster

    On February 16, 2009 at 8:25 pm


    Yea, i agree with the other kids…
    the argument was pretty one-sided.
    I’m still not convinced.
    You should add some cons in your paper, since the title was “the pros and cons of dropping the bomb.”
    I have no idea if it was justified or not though. I don’t think that question will ever go away. :P

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  57. Phail...

    On March 10, 2009 at 7:43 pm


    The economic part is wrong beceause the US has Japan blockaded by ships, not allowing any supplies in or out, so if it became a war of attrition the Us would not have lost its money and supplies faster than a small island with few resources unable to trade, mang gg

  58. naughtycarebear :O

    On March 12, 2009 at 9:52 pm


    your argument was basically saying that it was justified because the japanese were cruel, they faught barbarously, and used vicious methods, and that it was needed to end the war and stop military spending.

    although this may have been true, you neglect the fact that germany had already surrendered a month prior to the bombing, and with the battle of midway, japan’s surrender was guarunteed. also, japan had began sending peace feelers throughout 1942-45, and although they would accept. the “unconditional surrender” terms, it is clear that they were still going to surrender. thus, the war was inevitably bound to have ended soon, making there no need to use an atomic bomb.

    when you state that “Negotiating would’ve been inevitable”, you fail to acknowledge that when the US embargoed japan, japan’s first action was to negotiate with the US (a propositition to which the US rejected).

    furthermore, when you say that a continuation of the war would have put the united states into greater debt, you forget that prior to the war, the US was experiencing the Great Depression, and the only thing that boosted the economy and got it back on its feet was WWII. In short, war is good for the economy, because it promotes production and spending.

    if the US was justified in bombing japan, then why did they not also bomb germany? germany would have been the more obvious target; germany at the time was highly advanced in technology, and had developed their own atomic weapons. was it because many of america’s citizens were of german descent? if that was the case, then it would seem plausible, since the amount of japanese-american citizens were scarce, leading one to believe that the US knew they had nothing to lose in their actions of bombing japan, even if it was unnecessary. also, could it have been that a still developing US continued to harbor racist views, and needed to express their supremacy? of course, these are only presumptions.

    the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki was UNjustified and completely unrequired. the war would have ended without the last-second, just-for-the-heck-of-it atomic bomb. japan’s resources were already depleted and there allies had already been defeated. if you believe that japan’s cruelty and torture provided a justifiable reason, then your reason would be based on revenge, and revenge is not a justifiable reason. above all, the atomic bomb was a horrendous weapon that should have never been used, no matter what the circumstances.

  59. naughtycarebear :O

    On March 12, 2009 at 10:03 pm


    sorry, but had to fix a typo xD
    on the 7th line of my comment above, it’s supposed to read:

    “… they WOULDN’T accept the “unconditional surrender” terms, it is clear that they were still going to … “

    which also brings up another argument: if the US had proposed conditional surrender, then japan probably would have been less reluctant to surrender.

    anyway, i hope you guys can see my point, and i hope i didn’t offend anyone :]

  60. the best country on earth

    On March 25, 2009 at 7:43 am


    if i was president I wouldve dropped ten of them

  61. americanidiot

    On March 27, 2009 at 1:09 pm


    i agree 100% with daniel, the article is way too biased.
    and to ‘the best country on earth’ u should just know that while everyone sucks up to america, noone likes them everyone hates america and their arrogance and pompousness

  62. anonymous

    On March 29, 2009 at 5:37 pm


    That was very well said! I agree with you completely. And some people say we should have told them we were going to drop a bomb. We DID warn them but they refused to surrender.

  63. an AMERICAN!!!!

    On April 8, 2009 at 3:43 pm


    what the japs did to our soilders was horrrible! they deserved what they got. i only wish it could have been done sooner so the war would have over a lot quicker! and i am totally using this in my essay!

  64. a person whos name u do not need to know u stalker so leave me alone! God!

    On April 19, 2009 at 1:08 pm


    who cares about the other side of it! The japs were warned!

  65. bethhh

    On April 22, 2009 at 10:14 am


    thiss helpeed me so much i dint have a clue what to write. it may be one sided but its the side i need. thanks alot ;) xxx

  66. anonymous

    On April 23, 2009 at 6:52 pm


    caca borez
    thats what they get

  67. superman

    On May 4, 2009 at 11:44 am


    hey. i think that you are totally right. but im in a social studies class debate and i need to have info that refutes the abomb.

  68. Clouds do fall

    On May 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm


    This was a very good account of a very informative yet biased view. The bomb may very well have saved millions of lives but there is no evidence to that point so therefore does not exist.
    The “warning” the americans gave the japanese should not have been to tell the japanese what they were going to do but insted to show them, by dropping the bomb on probably the coast or a un used island not so far form japan. Therefore not so many lives would have been killed and that the japanese would have surrendered otherwise the american would’ve dropped the second bomb. The money loss is no excuse for taking anothers life. There is no price on a human life, no matter what country you come from. The prisoners suffering was also no excuse as billions of past people have suffered if not worse but the same torture.

    I am not so concerned about what happened almost 70 years ago, but more worried that there have been many many more atomic bombs created. Even after the effect on Japan, America, England, Russia and all the big countries have created these disturous weapons. I am afraid of the effects if they were to land in the wrong hands and as many civilians know there are thousands of these evil thoughts running through humans. Are they truely human?

  69. A Research-Worm

    On May 17, 2009 at 6:25 am


    Yes . I truly agree about the passage . Yes , The dropping nof the atomic bomb was justified . And , If the Americans did not drop the bomb , Probably , We would be under the Japanese control .
    Thankfully , Everything is fine now ! :D

  70. Mohamed Ali

    On May 18, 2009 at 11:54 am


    Oh you IDIOTS!!! would you like a bomb dropped into your city? I thought so, PLUS you dont know about all the other people indirectly involved carrying the 238 uranium which died from cancer. WHY THE **** WOULD YOU AGREE TO THIS. ARE YOU *****ING INSANE, LOOK AT THE REAL FACTS, at that time the war would have ended that same year IF THE ****ING BOMBS WERENT DEPLOYED, And all the idiot who said it was not justified, good for you, and now you have reasons for it, WHAT IDIOT THINKS DROPPING AN UNSTABLE RADIOACTIVE BOMB IS A GOOD IDEA? WHAT IF IT WAS YOU? WHY IS AMERICA SO STUPID FOR? GOD DAMN IT WHY DONT THEY LISTEN, well we all know one thing for sure, Americas going down very soon and Canada will be its demise. REMEMBER THAT

  71. Devynn

    On May 28, 2009 at 9:21 pm


    that was awsome thanks, i can totaly use that for my debate.

  72. sexysexy

    On May 28, 2009 at 9:27 pm


    love

  73. think.for.yourself

    On June 8, 2009 at 4:43 am


    wow
    I don\’t know whats more sad seeing people completely ignorant or seeing people completely eating up bullshiit that their government and shiitty education system feeds them.
    Japan was about to surrender and America knew this. But America didn\’t want to get blue balls from this bomb they spent years and million of dollars on.
    The Americans wanted to know what happens when you drop this thing on humans. So they drop the bomb on hundreds of thousand of innocent people, and the first thing they do when Japan surrenders is send out scientists out to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to collect data of what happened to the cities, the environment, and the people.
    And many people say that the A bombs were dropped to get back at the Japanese for Pearl Harbor. I wont even go into the whole did FDR know Pearl Harbor was coming and just ignored the warnings to have an excuse to go to war part. Pearl Harbor was an attack on a military base, war is between soldiers. Hiroshima and Nagasaki two big bombs dropped on innocent civilians. It would be like me killing your mother because you hit me for no reason, now would that be justified.
    I\’m also sure that you guys don\’t know that over 60 Japanese cities were napalmed during WWII killing over 80,000 civilians and leaving even more homeless. So do some research and find out how disgustingly immoral and just how much the US broke the laws of war. All I\’m saying is that war is ugly, once its over people will find things that make them \”the good guys\” and find things that make the others \”the bad guys\”

  74. anonymous

    On June 17, 2009 at 2:43 pm


    I cant believe you thinks its right to drop a bomb on INNOCENT PEOPLE it make me fell so angry when people say its right :( being more in debt is better than losing thousands of lives and leaving mental and psychical effects on the people which our still effecting people today. People are so ignorant these days would they like it if someone went and dropped a bomb on them and having there eyeballs melted out? i didn’t think so and whatever to to the greater good because if we all thought for the greater good thousands more would be dead. Plus did you know that the russians offered to help america fight against japan but they said no so dont say o well america had no help because actually they ignored it!
    Plus they should really change this articles name to only pros of dropping the atomic bomb i came on here to read a non biased article to help me with homework and i get this uh i feel so angry now thanks for wrecking the rest of my day :(

  75. TheAnswer

    On June 17, 2009 at 6:24 pm


    I do agre with the article but there are some things that the author missed. First off, the dropping of the bomb saved the lives of a countless amount of people, even Japanese (even if they said they were going to surrender). If the atomic bomb was not dropped, the war most likely would have dragged on. The power the atomic bomb controlled intimidated all enemies of the allies. Japan was made an example of the absolute destruction that the bomb could have on any enemy city, even after World War II. The bomb saved probably around the same amount of people killed on D-Day. Japan said they were going to surrender, but they didn\’t. If they did not surrender, \”the alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction.\” Japan knew what they would be getting into by playing the waiting game and most likely would not have had surrendered as soon as they later said they would have. The American retribution for Pearl Harbor undoubtably contributed to this decision of annihilation nonetheless, it was not done soley for vengeance. The atomic bomb ended the war quick–which saved money for weapons, troops\’ supplies, transportation, etc.–and it saved many people\’s live. The not-so-innocent people of Japan should have surrendered quickly if they did not want to face the beast that was America\’s nuclear annihilator.

  76. AllAboveMeAreDoucheBags

    On June 30, 2009 at 3:25 pm


    ^^

  77. Hello

    On July 9, 2009 at 6:14 pm


    “Japan was about to surrender”. That is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. The Japanese looked at their leaders as gods up until this point, the everyday citizens were ordered and ready to pick up arms and fight forever for their god. The bomb was a necessary in the fact that it made the Japanese question their leader, understand he was not a god, a god wouldn’t of let that happen to the homeland.

    If they were ready to surrender, why didn’t they surrender after the first bombing? Common people…they weren’t ready to surrender. Also, yes the nuclear effects are much longer lasting and I don’t think we should turn to it again. But if you factor in the death counts from the bombs, it didn’t even compare to the deaths just from our bombings of Tokyo. So the argument “innocent people dead” well…you could say the same about the Tokyo bombings, but of course, no one ever remembers those. hundreds of thousands of innocents died in those raids, but since it wasn’t a “nuclear” attack, it isn’t a bad thing apparently…

    I wasn’t trying to write a report but I’ll stop. I think it was totally justified and I don’t think anyone can say for sure if it saved lives by ending the war early, seems very possible to me. I don’t think the Japanese were ready to surrender.

    I think it took something as devastating as the bomb (It took two of them people, one wasn’t enough to convince them) to get them to stand down.

    Nuff Said? Of course you can toss a lot of good arguments on the other side, making it sound really good. But just weighing it out, I personally think it was not only justified, but necessary.

  78. Hello's peasant ^

    On July 11, 2009 at 10:35 pm


    You are my God.

  79. joedg

    On July 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm


    I am writing a report on the same exact subject right now except I DO NOT believe dropping the atomic bomb and Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the right decision. I just needed to give a quick shout out to daniel the the disgruntled patriot. Dan you said it right. Ski33 your paper is….how should I say this…pathetic.

  80. Olivia

    On August 4, 2009 at 2:43 am


    YOU ARE SICK! You have the completely wrong idea. What does it matter that the US saved money? They destoryed the lives of over 250 000 people! How can the taking of human life be justified in any way?

    If the war had continued, the lives lost would have been extreme. However, they would have been mostly military deaths, and those willing to fight. The use of the atomic bomb killed many civilians. The Americans behind this should have been tried for war crimes.

    It was not necessary in the slightest. The war would have ended within a month anyway, and the Japanese were seeking peace. The only reason they did not surrender was because they were afraid the US would torture their emperor and disgrace their tradition.

    It’s people like you that give America a bad name. We should not be proud of the choice to drop the bomb!

  81. Jaymz

    On August 6, 2009 at 5:02 pm


    If bombing Japan was justified, than 9/11 was MORE than justified, it was needed.

    If the US continues sticking its ugly fingers into other nation’s pies, there will be more 9/11s on American soil, I’m sure of that.

  82. claudia

    On August 9, 2009 at 12:30 am


    why kill innocent people?

  83. a fellow American

    On August 19, 2009 at 2:59 pm


    You are a heartless person.
    A lot of those people who died from the bomb were INNOCENT.
    The ecomony? SERIOUSLY?
    I rather have a really bad economy than have a bunch of people die.
    And for those Americans who died in those tortures, well they got that for getting involved in the war. When you are in war, you could suffer, it’s just part of war. It’s basic stuff.
    2 wrongs don’t make a right anyways, like if the japanese kill americans, or the americans kill japanese, both are WRONG.

  84. nunyas

    On August 29, 2009 at 3:23 am


    wow
    it just saddens me to see that some idiots are using this as a source for their papers. Hope you all fail out of school and end up washing dishes for a living.

  85. AlreadyAgainst The NextWar

    On September 1, 2009 at 9:13 pm


    Look here to see what knowledgeable people had to say. Please give me acts that be verified.

    http://www.doug-long.com/quotes.htm

  86. Michael

    On September 28, 2009 at 11:32 pm


    i didnt know so many people were actually this stupid… bravo america, bravo…

  87. Greg

    On November 3, 2009 at 2:14 pm


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Gabaldon

    It was pretty easy for one man to gather 1,500 japanese harmlessly, so doesn’t that say something of how ready the japanese were for surrender? Even if the japanese military heads had no plan of surrender, without an army, he would be forced to. Most of the japanese fighters were exerted and willing for peaceful surrender Also, the estimated number of 1,000,000 deaths has changed almost every time president truman or any of his advisors talked about it. There is no basis to believe that estimation, and 1,000,000 is highly unlikely, since the japanese were already at a point of surrender. There was no formal meeting between truman and his cabinet before the bombing. There could have been other ways. At least ways that took out less civilians.

  88. Supporter

    On November 3, 2009 at 11:12 pm


    My God, everyone is always questioning the bomb, arguing weather or not it was necessary (note: Countary to popular belief, both cities were ports and locations of weapons factories and were legitimate military targets). No one ever questions the tokyo bombings, which killed around 100,000 Japanese and left around a Million homeless. Nope, if it’s not nuclear, it’s ok. And for the people saying “don’t get involved in war”, the Japanese had World Domination of their minds, and allied themselves with the people that killed millions based on their religion. Also, there were NO civilians in Japan, they were all devoted to the emporer and were willing to die for him.

  89. Supporter

    On November 4, 2009 at 10:16 pm


    And if your still not convinced, google Rape of Nanking or Japanese Death Marches, that should show you the atrocities of the Japanese.

  90. Joe

    On November 30, 2009 at 8:21 pm


    God you guys are idiots, going back to what Daniel had stated, yes he did not talk about the cons but it did end the war now didn’t it? I mean what would you choose, save a million lives or loose even more? The answer is there but which one would you choose, that my friend will matter the most.

  91. This Article is Nonsense.

    On December 1, 2009 at 9:26 pm


    I totally agree with Daniel the disgruntled patriot there… What a skewed article.

    You say that the innocent people who died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki had to have in order for WW2 to have ended? Well, the truth is that Germany and Italy, the two biggest forerunners, had already lost by the time the US dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. Innocent men, women, and children died as a result; a bomb cannot be targetted only for military personnel. VILLAGES were WIPED OUT.

    You also said that 240,000 was nothing. How can you say that? What if YOU were one of the 240,000? Or your family? Your friends? Every life has a value. That bomb just wiped out 240,000 people from the face of the earth cruelly — an inhumane act. You said that these people died quickly without pain. Lie — radiation poisoning is a long-time effect, definitely not painless. People still suffer from birth defects even after WW2.

    & How can you say that more people would have died had the bomb not been dropped? How would you know? Weren’t there better ways to resolve this then scarring hundreds of thousands people for the rest of their lives?

  92. adam

    On December 7, 2009 at 6:44 am


    i do not believe dropping the bomb is justified,

    i also believe that the USA brought pearl harbor upon itself by slapping an oil embargo on japan.

    in reference to the PoWs, this is not something i defend, but i do like to point out that they have a very different way of living, they simply did not BELIEVE in the concept of PoW.

  93. Supporter

    On December 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm


    The reason they even started the embargo was to try and get Japan to pull out of China. Japan refused, of course, and the rest is history.

  94. James

    On December 18, 2009 at 1:53 am


    ok… this kinda pissed me off \”Other actions could’ve been taken like negotiation, but the fighting style of the Japanese spoke for itself. They would rather take a grenade strapped to their chest than be touched by an American. Negotiating would’ve been inevitable. Dropping the bombs saved way more lives than it took, and in a war, saving as many lives as possible is the best way to go.\” first of all you used the word inevitable incorrectly, second of all, negotiating was definitely a possibility for the United States government because Japan had already given signs that it would accept surrender. It was just the \”unconditional surrender\” that they were fighting against, which is totally understandable. Not only is it embarrassing to lose a war, but to be a country whose actions and livelihood are almost completely dictated by what they perceive to be honor, losing a war, AND admitting that their

  95. James cont

    On December 18, 2009 at 1:54 am


    way of life was inferior by taking their emperor out of power would be completely humiliating and demeaning. You say that saving as many lives as possible is the best way to go, well, with the Soviet Union already attacking Japan in Manchuria and thousands of Japanese civilian lives already lost because of the fire bombings, was it really necessary to even contemplate fighting in Japan? All we had to do was modify the means of surrender or at least meet with Japanese officials to see how they felt about the situation. But no, Truman decided to drop the atomic bomb, not to beat Japan who wasn\’t even a threat anymore, but to prove to the Soviet Union that we had an extremely powerful weapon at our disposal, which we could use against them if they didn\’t stop spreading into western Europe.

    all in all this isn\’t terrible per se, but its so biased that its hard to read.

  96. Ricky

    On January 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm


    All i have to say is for Josh who’s comment is near the top of the page, at least you spelt your own name right although you did forget to capitalize. I agree with the argument made but do not see how his could hold any value at all. Just thought that it was pretty funny that he argued a point and spelt maybe half of the words properly.

  97. steve freeland

    On January 6, 2010 at 9:06 am


    I am a Vietnam combat vet. I’ve seen the worst of what so called humans can do to each other -and I carry that nightmare to this day. I was put there based on lies-lying is a political force and it was used for dropping the bombs.

  98. Craig Fitch

    On February 6, 2010 at 9:45 pm


    I think that Israel would be justified in dropping nukes in Iran, Southern Lebanon, and Syria if they are attacked or about to be attacked.

  99. Kyle

    On February 7, 2010 at 4:20 am


    So, people that disagree point to the number of people that died due to the bombings. So, let me ask you all this: Which is a lesser of two evils? A few hundred thousand now? Or A few MILLION later? Because that was what would have happened if the invasion of Japan went ahead.

    This is a fact: 500,000 purple hearts were made in anticipation of the invasion of Japan, we STILL have about 120,000 of those left.

    The battle of Iwo Jima saw nearly the entire Japanese garrison die, only 216 of the about 20,000 strong army was captured, the rest were KIA. USA lost about 25,000 KIA or WIA, which estimated 7000 died.

    On this single island the American casualties were greater then the the ENTIRE Allied casualties on storming the beaches on D-Day. Iwo Jima was only 2 km squared. Think about it, this small island had the USA take more casualties then the entire Allied first day of Operation Overlord. What kind of casualties would the Invasion of Japan have? On both the Japanese AND the Allies.

    Also, had the nuclear weapons not been dropped and the Japanese had not surrendered Japan could have ended up like the Korean Peninsula.

    The unconditional surrender was a neccesity. The Allies learned from history. World War Two was in one way a continuation of World War 1. The opponents had to be defeated totally. Without exception. Because look at Germany: Germany sued for peace while their army was still in French/Belgium lands and not yet pushed back. And for their troubles they got the Treaty of Versaille. This led to resentment and eventual feeling among the German people that they could have won the war and they were back stabed by their government. This feeling was used by the Nazis to gain power, among other things they used anyway.

    What Japan wanted was a conditional surrender. Japan should have no say in their surrender terms, and had to be totally and entirely defeated since if they do they may think they could have won also, and another generation or so later you would have another war.

    The atomic bombings were horrific, but the couple hundred thousand lives killed by the bombs are nothing compared to what the rest of Japan was being subjected to, the numerous firebombings killed more Japanese then the atomic bombs. For example, the firebombing of Tokyo killed an estimated 100,000 people.

    In my opinion Japan should have had its nose shoved into the atrocities that it had commited, the Rape of Nanking, the bio/chem warfare units such as the infamous Unit 731. The entire state of them not acknowledging them and appologizing for those atrocities, unlike Germany, was because they were able to keep their citizens from seeing what was happening.

  100. Paul McClain

    On February 9, 2010 at 10:17 pm


    Yes the atomic bomb was necesssary there is only but one rule in war and that is to win you dont go into a fight with the intent to do just enough you go into a fight with the intent to win and win convincingly and to make spectators think twice before they try to fight you so what innocent japs died so did innocent Americans I am in the U.S Army and my job is to protect this country from all terroist either foreign or domestic and that is what I intend to do if a jap decided that they wanted to kill three americans while I am standing there I wouldnt shoot him in the leg I would put a bullet from my m4 right in his head and that is what america did to jap so I am sorri that you guys dont think it was justified it was very justified “No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
    He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”

  101. cejkh

    On February 11, 2010 at 4:47 am


    So you believe killing thousands of innocent people is justified .. what is the world coming to?? .. The atomic bomb should never have been used let alone made. Killing people is never the solution and certainly not innocent people that had nothing to do with the war whatsoever. Imagine seeing on the news that an atomic bomb hit a place where your family and friends lived, would you go “right, well they deserved it” . I’m not saying that what the Japanese people did was justified, but they weren’t the innocent peoples decisions, they were the Governments. And the stupid ‘an eye for an eye’ thing is hypocritical, if you hated so much what the japanese did to the US, imagine what the Japanese people must be thinking, their whole cities wiped out, not just people but their culture and everything that was there. You are the type of people that start wars by thinking ‘its okay to kill even more of their innocent people, if that’s what they did to us” That’s a 3 year old’s mentality.

  102. achance

    On February 14, 2010 at 3:55 pm


    Nice essay. I especially liked all of the grammatical errors, run-on sentences, and fragments. I hope this was written by a sophomore. I was going to use this document in my classroom but since it looks like one of my kids wrote it, forget it. Better luck next time.

  103. pnus loer

    On February 23, 2010 at 2:17 pm


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    On March 2, 2010 at 9:54 pm


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  105. Karen

    On March 8, 2010 at 8:42 pm


    The bombing was completely unnecessary and most certainly did not save lives. While the info you put is true, you left out that Japan had planned a surrender. Emperor Hirohito sent an emissary to inform Stalin. The U.S. knew about it, but still somehow took the lives of innocent people. Why? because once the war was over, the U.S. wanted nothing to do with the S.U. and wanted to send a message that they were more powerful than Soviet Russia.

  106. balls

    On March 16, 2010 at 1:43 pm


    this just won me my debate

  107. alex

    On March 16, 2010 at 9:06 pm


    The article was interesting, but the subtitle was inaccurate. The article was very one-sided. You stated that you would have pros and cons of dropping the bomb. You listed only about 1 or 2 cons of dropping the bomb. Almost the entire article was about how it was justified. Most of Japan did not even know about the first bomb until after the second dropped. They were already getting ready to surrender. The only major negotiation Japan originally wanted before it surrendered was to be able to keep Hirohito on the throne. Japan would just have easily surrendered with only one bomb. Also, the statement that 1 million people plus the number that died from the atomic bombs was overexaggerated. Conventional firebombs would have caused as much damage as the atomic bombs, even if more were needed, and they wouldn’t have caused health problems even to this day from the radiation. The cities that were bombed consisted of mostly civilians. They were of very little military importance. Even many of the U.S. generals thought that these bombs were unnecessary, such as general Eisenhower. You did make a very interesting argument for the U.S.’s side in the bombing, and it would be good if you were arguing for the U.S. in a debate, minus the many grammatical errors.

  108. someone.

    On March 18, 2010 at 7:52 pm


    wow. i love you random guy. i couldnt have said it better.

  109. guy doing a report

    On March 24, 2010 at 11:18 pm


    Ok, all of you dissin this paper because it doesnt have any cons listed are wrong, in a debate you never list the other side it looks bad, and is foolish. The people you are speaking aginst can and will turn thy nutrallity around and you will loose…and daniel, remember the wrighter also said”IN MY OPENION”
    so yall suck on that. to the writer of the paper thankyou you didexlant and gave me some grate info that i have approved by double cheaking Nuclearweaponarchive.com also holds great amounts of info.

  110. Johnson

    On April 1, 2010 at 4:54 am


    Wow…. Bi freakin ased… This is like something the government would write to cover something up….. First of all.. look up some facts about how it started and why.. then think about the decision made.

    Also… some, if not most of your information is false.. Japan attempted to send numerous peace negotiations.

    Why would you write (”The pros and CONS of the decision of dropping the bomb.”) if you wrote a paper completely one sided except for one or two cons that you added a (,but) to, indicating that the con you stated was wrong or was not justified.

  111. Johnson

    On April 1, 2010 at 5:03 am


    By the way…. You can’t really estimate how many lives or casualties would be lost.. If you do or can… You would know you are sending troops to die. And also you would know an estimate of how many people you are sending to die..

    The war was practically over when The U.S bombed Japan. So there was really no reason bomb Japan.

  112. m3i

    On April 5, 2010 at 7:33 pm


    well i really like all the comments and he article is pretty good…

    i am in the side of u.s for droping the bomb for the reason it was the japan who made it move and so the US felt it was there turn ,…dont know if ut was justified but i also feel srry for the innocents of families who dies i dont like wars at all
    but becuz they droppped the bomb it made the war end faster and Jap did a good decision by not fring out to the U.S again
    i regret that they didnt surender earlyer … for the deaths and the reason that i wouldnt be readin abut this if it never existed!

  113. karliiiiie

    On April 14, 2010 at 1:07 pm


    FUKE YOU AGAINST WAR. If you won’t stand behind our soilders, stand in front of them.

  114. Connor

    On April 27, 2010 at 3:14 pm


    Absoloutly terrible article. Theres no con’s for the dropping of the bombs. Article is believed to be unbiased as well, but is not.

  115. Benny

    On April 27, 2010 at 8:10 pm


    thought this would be a good article to cite in my thesis paper but wow its complete garbage once you read the first three paragraphs

  116. Ted Bell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:37 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They weren’t on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true “war” this country has been in. We have been in many “wars” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the “last stand” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says “wholly fsck, if we don’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.” This does not mean that no one’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  117. Ted Bell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:37 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They weren\\\’t on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\”war\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\”wars\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\”last stand\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\”Two wrongs don\\\’t make a right.\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  118. Ted Bell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:38 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They weren’t on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  119. TedBell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:39 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They weren\’t on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  120. TedBell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:40 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They werent on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  121. l.o.r.d.tedbell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:40 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They werent on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  122. tedbell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:42 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They werent on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  123. tedbell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:42 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They werent on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”war\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” this country has been in. We have been in many \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wars\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”last stand\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”wholly fsck, if we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” This does not mean that no one\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Two wrongs don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t make a right.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  124. tedbell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:47 pm


    Okay, this article was very poorly craft….nevertheless, the mentality of 85% of the posts here is astonishing. People seem to be assuming some things that are simply unassumable:
    (1)Japan was ready to surrender. As a few remarked already, that was blatantly not true. What US was able to glean about Japanese culture was that it WOULD NOT ALLOW SURRENDER. Just because we are NOW in a freer and much more connected world does not mean that we were THEN. THEN, the Japanese were coming out of centuries of imperial bushido-based ways of thinking. They werent on Usenet or Twitter chatting it up with people from around the world. People were subjects to an emperor whom them believed was a physical incarnation of God. The Japanese culture allowed for them to die before they ought ever to be shamed by surrender or defeat.
    (2)I am going to make a very small leap to say that NOT A SINGLE PERSON POSTING HERE has ever been in true all-out war. I don’t mean to belittle the men and women who have fought and continue to fight and die on my behalf for the US, but WWII was the last true “war” this country has been in. We have been in many “wars” over the past fifty years that took quite a toll on us; again, I am NOT discounting these endeavors. WWII was just truly, the “last stand” for our survival — which is what I am referring to…that situation where everyone looks around and says “wholly fsck, if we don’t do something, we are fscking DEAD.” This does not mean that no one’s opinion is valuable, but I think that no one is looking at this from the perspective of where Americans were in 1945. They had been obliterated by almost 5 years of fully-mobilized war. That meant that people who were not drafted into the service stayed home and worked in factories that were producing the things necessary to keep their brothers and cousins and friends who WERE OVERSEAS alive. The losses we had taken were substantial, and victory was NOT assured. We realized the Japanese would NOT stop ever, and it was gonna take every last thing we had to achieve victory. This was not happy times were we just randomly decided to drop a bomb on civilians. Please everyone try to really imagine this…you don’t know the Japanese will ever surrender, you don’t know that TVs will be in every home and people will be on the friggin internet in a time of peace….for all you know, THIS IS IT.
    (3)We were about to be broken. The author of the article harps on how much the war had cost. Economics should not play a factor into a war and the decisions in it, I agree. However, the country was broke from fighting. Money is the way to get supplies, fuel, food. Is everyone forgetting we just came out of the Great Depression? Our wherewithal to continue fighting successfully was dwindling, which meant bad things would eventually start to happen. The war HAD TO END soon, otherwise, a protracted fight might obliterate us from within.
    (4)We cannot play god here. This is not a video game or a sci fi movie. The US did not know that Japan was ready to surrender (and they weren’t, btw….hence why we had to drop TWO bombs…). For all we knew, they might never surrender. We also did not know what tricks THEY may have had up their sleeve. Victory WAS NOT assured for us! I can’t say this enough. If we knew the way it was going to end, then maybe we could have taken a different approach. But no one knew.
    (5)Do you really think that Japan would have hesitated use nuclear arms on us?”Two wrongs don’t make a right.” I agree in theory, but how did we not know that Japan may have a similar weapon (that is all it was, at that time…another kind of weapon). We were then taking the lives of OUR citizens at hand and discounting them by leaving them open to whatever Japan had up its sleeve.
    (6)Had we never used the A-Bomb on Japan and realized the horrors of nuclear weaponry, it may not have been WE who were first to use it. Some country somewhere was going to use a nuke at some point. It was inevitable, and it could have been quite devastating had an H-bomb or something similar been deployed anywhere. I shudder at that thought.

    I apologize for rambling a bit, I didn’t intend to make an essay of this. It just seems that blaming America for everything seems to be the new black. Everyone want to seems chic and in by blaming them for every bad thing that has happened since Jamestown. American is not perfect. There are things I definitely disagree with, and things that are atrocious. That said, we are not automatically wrong about everything.

    I am not a warmonger, I detest it. I pray we never see anything like WWII till the end of time I also pray that nuclear weapons are NEVER deployed again. Destroying civilians is abhorrent; unfortunately, first-world countries are the only ones who give a lick. The amount we spend in training and precision weaponry is a testament to our commitment to that principle. Given the above, I just hope that some minds can be changed to understand the reason we did what we did…that we are not MONSTERS for having used the A-bomb. Our unwillingness to use it again ought to be proof of that.

  125. tedbell

    On May 3, 2010 at 5:50 pm


    I’m really sorry all for the multiple posts. I kept getting a server error, and then all the sudden when I refreshed there were 7 of them. Sorry again.

  126. hottie

    On May 23, 2010 at 7:55 pm


    wow…the article was good even if u did say that u would list the pros and cons but 90% of those posts were absolutely retarded. wow! and u really hit the nail on the head tedbell

  127. SR

    On May 28, 2010 at 6:04 pm


    I still cannot seem to bring myself to believe that use of the atomic bomb was ABSOLUTELY necessary. However, tedbell has definitely brought up some wonderful points that have got me thinking. Very well said!

  128. Jude

    On June 11, 2010 at 3:17 pm


    who wants to learn about all this rubbish anyway??? haha–i know what ya thinking(that im a peado rite?
    but honestly, im just an ordinary little school girl – just joking, actually im a boy (girls suck!!) LOSERS!!!

    oh and i really would appreciate it if I could get help on how to kiss a girl, u know for the future???

    like a tongue kiss….i wanna maule them..yummy…my girlfiends called Callie and shes so beutiful just to let u know. I wanna eat her up! yum! DELICIOUS. her lips are so soft on mine and we want to make love to each other.

    shes really hot and sexy so no-one try’n grab her from me!

    i want to have sex with her..but i dont know how to ask her? should I say…oh callie! I love u so much that I want to have sex with u!! shes not that type of girl so she will think im joking ..and ill say ..yh lets have sexon the beach…

    and lets face it..nearly every aduolt has had sex so theres no reason why you should hide it or feel ashamed. im gonna ask her to have sex with me..

    i know you need condoms to prevent infection ..is that what you use..or are they called tampons(i cant remeber :( !!!! )

    how do u have sex anyway. we will slowly undress each other, rite?? then what doi do? stck my penis into her vagina??? thats yuck.. oh yeah, i gforgot to mention..her boobs are enormous , they feel so good to touch and feel i could eat them.

    so to have sex, i basically neeed to get out my penis( which is now rrreally hairy and pout insert it into Callie’s vagina??? is that rite?? please help me, thanks!

    thanks, love Jude xx

    i no boys dont usually sign off saying love but i feel in the mood!!!

    please give any advice! thanks friends

  129. John Adams

    On October 3, 2010 at 7:46 pm


    Daniel
    On March 13, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    This comment is in response to the fool above, \’DANIEL\’ March 13, 2008 at 10:17 PM. This idiot is more concerned with the lives of the enemy. He was not there therefore it is so easy to value their lives. He would have perferred the US lose an estimated 1,000,000 American and Allied lives. Hey, idiot, the Japanese bombed us at Pearl Harbor. Does that ring a bell? Second, it was an unprovoke attack killing about 3,000 Americans. Third, when in war the principle of morality is out of the equation. A bomb is a bomb is a bomb. The only exception here is that is was so final, so devastating that it knock their balls right off. Okay, it\’s done and good for Truman having the balls do approve it. Fourth, Daniel, now what is your problem with that?

  130. Jonny

    On October 18, 2010 at 3:13 pm


    :D I needed help for my history day project and i got it. im not supposed to be biased at all so… thx for the tips! Though i myself am biased. to me dropping the bomb was justified. If you think differently, do what i did and read “Dropping the Atomic Bomb” by Richard Rhodes then you can tell me your opinion

  131. Jey

    On October 27, 2010 at 11:08 am


    This is all fake!!!

  132. ur mother

    On November 18, 2010 at 6:36 pm


    It wasn’t justified because the bomb killed a lot of people that didn’t do anything wrong plus the people that surived and had kids, their childern were effected by this. in my opion it was overkill but, it ended world war 2.

    p.s good job on detail and you are a noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob

  133. Iggy Kirkland

    On November 28, 2010 at 5:43 pm


    I really think that this is a wonderful article, and it makes sense fully, beautifully written. Very moving, I must say!
    Though, it’s very one sided.
    The Japanese felt the same pains we did. Just because we’re Americans, it doesn’t make our lives and more important.
    When we went over to Japan, it was only soldiers, no innocent women, no children, not a single man who thought the whole war should have, and could have, been avoided. We killed thousands of people who probably didn’t even know what to think about the war. For all we know, a majority of the people we killed could have agreed with us on the means of the war.
    I guess I’m trying to say; Remember to think about the pains of others as well. I mean, we did bomb Nagasaki for no reason other than the fact that the Japanese were taking too long to surrender. That was uncalled for.
    Though, your article has made me reconsider my true hate for the fact we dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima. It makes this subject much clearer.

  134. Angela

    On December 1, 2010 at 6:42 am


    I agree with Daniel and Ben ’s ideas. I gotto say I still could not forgive what those Japanese soldiers did during WWii, but it is never convincing when you connect deaths and economy or financial issues together, coz life is beyond dollars! I feel extremely horrible when some guy even said it is ok to drop a bomb coz people will have an immediate death which won ‘t bring any pain! how can anyone say something like this with such an easy tone? Maybe they would not be able to understand what had happened before they died but what they had lost were not a pair of shoes or something but their lives! Wars are evil. If you sacrifice millions of innocent citizen ’s lives just to end the war and feel good about it, you are even eviller. I mean, end up the whole war as soon as possible is a terrific thing, but there gotto be some other choices. It is a shame for the US government and millitary industries to sell weapons to Japan and Germany during the early time of WWii just to make some money. Isn ‘t it sarcastic when Japan still attacked the U.S. in the end? U.S ’s bombing is not out of the mercy or the consideration of other countries but just to take a quick revenge and do a business.

  135. casey

    On December 14, 2010 at 2:21 pm


    ok. for one, we only developed the bomb 1 month before it was used. we didn’t know what the consequences would be. and i agree with daniel. just b/c the gov. says something like it saved more than it killed doesn’t mean its true. the gov. lies all the time.
    so just remember that many innocent people were killed.

  136. Samuel

    On January 2, 2011 at 1:39 pm


    Those of you who are against the bombs, let me say this. America had already lost many troops in the island hopping campaign, and the war was not over when the bombs were dropped. And Japan itself wasn’t on the doorstep of surrender. In fact, it was training civilians to kill the Americans when they arrived by using spears and other hand held weapons. The invasion itself would have caused many casualties. The government may have lied about the death toll, but it wasn’t as if the Allies would sustain light casualties on the invasion of Japan. The Japanese thought of their emperor as a God and would rather commit suicide than risk dishonor by being captured. In fact, Suicide was encouraged in a way. In a country that had emerged from a samarui age, the soldiers still followed the saying “Death before Dishonor.” Even if the Emperor wanted to surrender (as some of you said) you are still frogetting about the real power here. Tojo was the real ruler of Japan, and though the Emperor was above him in rank, he had little courage to confront him. In addition, this desicion was not made in anger. The government weighed both options heavily before going ahead with the desicion to drop the bomb.
    In conclusion, an invasion would have led to many casualties, the Emperor was too weak to lead his own country, the desicion to bomb was not made with haste, and the bombs dropped actually saved lives in the long run (the lives of the invading force, the defending force, and the lives of the civilians who would kill themselves and the soldiers) That is all I have to say.

  137. the negotiator

    On January 12, 2011 at 1:45 pm


    Hey son of satin for one ur not the son of satin ur probaly some emo kid that sits in his room eating sun block and cutting ur self so shut ur damn mouth u faggot.

  138. charles lindville

    On January 12, 2011 at 1:46 pm


    im gay and love men so yea……….penis:) if ya know what i mean

  139. lancer447

    On February 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm


    for one thing i want to get straight is that if {the japs wanted us out of the war then why did they attack us if they didn\’t want us in the war} the US doesnt go to war unless we are attacked or we think we are going to be attacked!!! another thing is the japs thought they could seperate the united states by taking out our navy in PEARL HARBOR!!! who in the world is stupid enough to attack us now that (911) hapand i think by now every one in the world knows that if they (ATTACK us we WILL go to WAR). it doesnt matter who it is we will ATTACK them

  140. Adolf II Hitler

    On February 17, 2011 at 1:41 pm


    I think that Hitler is responsible…

  141. AverageNova

    On February 21, 2011 at 2:40 am


    lol what illiterate person wrote this article

  142. juicy piglet

    On March 17, 2011 at 7:57 pm


    dis my fav erry day i read dis.

  143. bump.on.a.hump

    On March 20, 2011 at 9:19 pm


    @juicy piglet….lol i love that nickname XD

    some of yall crazy, tho….smh

  144. JACKIE

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:08 pm


    i think dropping the bomb is justify. Everyone is all too focus of how much death that would caused to Japan after the decision but why don’t they think how many people that might coast if they fight on the ground. This who opposed this decision is truly an American that doesn’t understand this matter and being a fake ass. When Japan is invading China, do you know how much innocent people had been killed in just “ONE” city? More than three hundred thousand!

  145. Patriot

    On June 5, 2011 at 10:59 pm


    Japan was the villian here it was because of their unecessary attacks in china and everywhere. can you plz tell me one reason why Japan started the war wanna know why becasue they were greedy and selfish and wanted evrything so they wouldn’t need anyone and they tried to accomplish this by killing many people and they want to argue about how they got bombed and how it was bad well too bad you didn’t think about it before you went on a rampage to kill every people in every pacific islands for thier resources i for one think they throughly deserved to get bombed hell i wouldn’t mind dropping 2 or even more atmic bomb on those selfish greedy bastards. i hope everyone who died during those attck go to hell

  146. Patriot

    On June 5, 2011 at 11:02 pm


    maybe i was too harsh but anybody who supported their government and thought what their government did was right should go to hell.

  147. Samuel Johnson

    On June 10, 2011 at 4:51 pm


    Actually, Patriot, they did it mainly to establish their reign over the south-east asian area in their “Co-Prosperity Sphere” which was basically a big asian empire. And I agree, they deserved it, they killed more people than hitler, their kills numbered in the tens of millions.

  148. Marina

    On September 24, 2011 at 5:46 am


    Jess, think about the marine life!

  149. Peter

    On November 7, 2011 at 7:18 pm


    It was absolutely not justified, any non-retard can see that.
    But everyone justifying this surely wouldn’t mind if atomic bombs were dropped on the US? Since the US has commited attrocities too? If Iraq dropped several on the US, to stop the war and saving countless lives?
    The same reason Japan “deserved” it, the US “deserves” it too, at least according to the ones justifying this heinous war crime (if they’re not hypocrites with double standards that is).

  150. beowolfe_doomsday

    On February 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm


    man you guys are really weird, some of you are talking about the bombing and the rest are talking about sex. what the hell man this isn’t a porn site or a place to talk about sex, even though its funny to read thous who are talking about sex

  151. This is so stupid...

    On April 20, 2012 at 8:54 pm


    What is wrong with you people? Half you seem to be stuck in Grade 3. Also, the bombing was entirely justified. Have any of those illiterate idiots who think the bombing was not justified know anything about Japans culture back in those days? Ever heard of Bushido? The Japanese had made it CRYSTAL clear they were going to fight to the last man, woman, child going so far as to arm and train civilians to fight with anything that could be used as a weapon. Okinawa is a very good example for this. Previous incursions upon Japan had made it clear how many casualties the US would suffer if they invaded Japan. US armed forces would lose .5 to 1 million troops while Japan would suffer about 5 million casualties. People also lament all those lives lost in the bombing. I don\’t see any of them bringing up the conventional fire-bombing of Tokyo which killed more people than one atom bomb. While I do see both sides of this argument it cannot be refuted that there was NO OTHER OPTION for the US to take that would cause minimal casualties. It is all a matter of the greater good and while that sounds bad there truly is no other option. The 250 000 civilians or so who died in the bombing did not die in vain, they saved the lives of millions of US soldiers and Japanese civilians.

  152. Emily

    On April 30, 2012 at 12:02 am


    Typical ignorant, stupid American patriotic mentality. The lives of your soldiers and civilians are not more important than those belonging to other cultures and countries. How dare you place yourselves above others, regardless of whether or not you are friend or foe. Where is your humanity? This is why the rest of the world hates you, America, because the majority of you are idiotic and arrogant. How on earth can something like this be justified. The only people who can justify such a disgusting crime are Americans. The things you are taught in schools are things that the Government wants to teach you. Use some initiative and find out the real truth. The war was already over and the Japanese had already attempted surrender. Why should Japanese civilians die in order to save your soldiers? How is that justifiable? It certainly doesn’t help America’s argument with your ongoing use of atrocious chemical warfare such as the use of Agent Orange in the Vietnamese War, of which I have experienced first hand when I travelled to Vietnam a few years ago. So disgusting, atrocious, and makes me lose faith in humanity. How dare you people make such remarks. Chemical warfare does not only affect the people who die in the bombings, the radiation that people suffer affect even children who are born today. I have a friend who suffers from genetic defects from Agent Orange. Never, ever, is chemical warfare right. Never, ever, can it be justified. How dare you even attempt to. Absolutely disgusting. America, please enlighten yourselves!

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