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	<title>Comments on: Can We Please Just Let Gay People Get Married?</title>
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		<title>By: LovelyWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>LovelyWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we choose one side, the other won&#039;t shut up.  Well that&#039;s the way I see it, if we vote for it, the fundies will be on our tail saying how wrong we were for doing it. If we vote against it, our friends will leave us.  Kinda hard for someone who&#039;s both religious AND very open minded. (I know that sounds like an oxymoron, don&#039;t label me.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we choose one side, the other won&#8217;t shut up.  Well that&#8217;s the way I see it, if we vote for it, the fundies will be on our tail saying how wrong we were for doing it. If we vote against it, our friends will leave us.  Kinda hard for someone who&#8217;s both religious AND very open minded. (I know that sounds like an oxymoron, don&#8217;t label me.)</p>
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		<title>By: RemainCalm</title>
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		<dc:creator>RemainCalm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a straight, married man.  I support the right of a church or synagogue to withhold a marriage sacrament, blessing or religious status from couples they do not approve of.  But I oppose the government using tax dollars to discriminate against Americans.  Legally &quot;marriage&quot; is an agreement supported by the government between two people allowing for mutual risk management and shared property.  It&#039;s sexually discriminatory to allow one person to enter into this agreement but not another, based solely on who they find attractive or the shape of their bodies (and when was the last time a court clerk, much less a clergyperson, actually checked?).  It&#039;s comparable to requiring both parties involved in a title transfer to have two different eye colors.  If a church wants to withhold a certain blessing or religious status for a relationship, so be it, but laws pronouncing the &quot;sanctity&quot; of marriage (as in &quot;sacredness&quot;) are unconstitutional.  The government shouldn&#039;t be involved in sacredness.  
The best solution:  Everybody gets a civil union regardless of gender, and governments get out of the marriage business entirely and leave &quot;marriage&quot; to the churches.  Whatever we call the legal agreement, it should offer exactly the same benefits to the Americans involved regardless of the shape of their bodies and who they find attractive.  So let&#039;s make ALL of these agreements legal partnerships in the eyes of the government, which they already are, regardless of gender, and let churches, if they so choose, bestow or withhold some special religious status at their discretion.  People who adhere to those belief systems can abide by their churches&#039; expectations as they see fit.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a straight, married man.  I support the right of a church or synagogue to withhold a marriage sacrament, blessing or religious status from couples they do not approve of.  But I oppose the government using tax dollars to discriminate against Americans.  Legally &#8220;marriage&#8221; is an agreement supported by the government between two people allowing for mutual risk management and shared property.  It&#8217;s sexually discriminatory to allow one person to enter into this agreement but not another, based solely on who they find attractive or the shape of their bodies (and when was the last time a court clerk, much less a clergyperson, actually checked?).  It&#8217;s comparable to requiring both parties involved in a title transfer to have two different eye colors.  If a church wants to withhold a certain blessing or religious status for a relationship, so be it, but laws pronouncing the &#8220;sanctity&#8221; of marriage (as in &#8220;sacredness&#8221;) are unconstitutional.  The government shouldn&#8217;t be involved in sacredness.<br />
The best solution:  Everybody gets a civil union regardless of gender, and governments get out of the marriage business entirely and leave &#8220;marriage&#8221; to the churches.  Whatever we call the legal agreement, it should offer exactly the same benefits to the Americans involved regardless of the shape of their bodies and who they find attractive.  So let&#8217;s make ALL of these agreements legal partnerships in the eyes of the government, which they already are, regardless of gender, and let churches, if they so choose, bestow or withhold some special religious status at their discretion.  People who adhere to those belief systems can abide by their churches&#8217; expectations as they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: PhoenixRox</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhoenixRox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!! People are way too intolerant. Who gives us the right to tell someone else, how they should lead their lives? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!! People are way too intolerant. Who gives us the right to tell someone else, how they should lead their lives?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike1229</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike1229</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m actualy part of a club called straigt men for gay rights.
good write</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m actualy part of a club called straigt men for gay rights.<br />
good write</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right about gay marriage being a religious issue. I confess that if it were not so clearly stated in the Bible that homosexuality is forbidden, I wouldn\&#039;t think there is anything wrong with it
The liberal denominations who don\&#039;t see the Bible as the authoritive word of God have no problem with ignoring a few more passages. They decide on their doctrine by democracy rather than theocracy. So once gay marriage is deemed socially acceptable, it becomes OK for them.
For fundamentalists, it is more difficult. We believe that if God sees something as an abomination, then maybe there is something wrong with it.
That being said, Christians are not called to judge those outside the church. We should not expect people who are not Christians to behave like Christians. If gay people want to go to elected officials to get married, that is none of the Church\&#039;s business.If they want to join a church, and demand that we change what we believe in order to accomodate them, then I think we have a duty to object. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about gay marriage being a religious issue. I confess that if it were not so clearly stated in the Bible that homosexuality is forbidden, I wouldn\&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with it<br />
The liberal denominations who don\&#8217;t see the Bible as the authoritive word of God have no problem with ignoring a few more passages. They decide on their doctrine by democracy rather than theocracy. So once gay marriage is deemed socially acceptable, it becomes OK for them.<br />
For fundamentalists, it is more difficult. We believe that if God sees something as an abomination, then maybe there is something wrong with it.<br />
That being said, Christians are not called to judge those outside the church. We should not expect people who are not Christians to behave like Christians. If gay people want to go to elected officials to get married, that is none of the Church\&#8217;s business.If they want to join a church, and demand that we change what we believe in order to accomodate them, then I think we have a duty to object.</p>
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		<title>By: BradONeill</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradONeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 100% behind gay unions, I feel gay couples deserve to get benefits like healthcare from peoples employers,  I found your article offensive in your portrayal of Republicans as blindly following the GOP.  Come on you can do better than that there are conservatives that genuinely believe that the gay lifestyle is inappropriate it has nothing to do with what the GOP tells them to think.  I personally could care less if people are gay.  Some of the best people I know are gay.  I agree with you that this issue will eventually be behind us as a country and the gay lifestyle will eventually be accepted by most Americans as an acceptable way of life.

Now as for Gay Marriage as opposed to Unions I think they are forcing a change that many people are unwilling to accept.  Marriage has always been between a man and a woman and breaking a tradition that has been in place as long as people can remember is not going to happen without a vicious fight.  I am for Gay Unions because I believe it will have the effect of slowly introducing this &quot;new&quot; idea to people and will help them gain acceptance.   

Once people realize that their lives are not in any way harmed by the gay guy in accounting getting benefits for the love of his life they will become more accepting of the lifestyle.  This is a pragmatic approach intended to ease the country into something that frankly greatly disturbs a great number of people.  

I think everything can and should be included in the Gay Union that is included in a marriage- rights of survivorship, rights of making medical decisions, death benefits, pension benefits,   etc etc.

It is time to stand up and confront the unfair standards imposed on gay people by those who refuse to understand.  If you consider the gay lifestyle a sin it is time to hate the sin and love the sinner.  God gave us free will who are you to deny it to your fellow citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 100% behind gay unions, I feel gay couples deserve to get benefits like healthcare from peoples employers,  I found your article offensive in your portrayal of Republicans as blindly following the GOP.  Come on you can do better than that there are conservatives that genuinely believe that the gay lifestyle is inappropriate it has nothing to do with what the GOP tells them to think.  I personally could care less if people are gay.  Some of the best people I know are gay.  I agree with you that this issue will eventually be behind us as a country and the gay lifestyle will eventually be accepted by most Americans as an acceptable way of life.</p>
<p>Now as for Gay Marriage as opposed to Unions I think they are forcing a change that many people are unwilling to accept.  Marriage has always been between a man and a woman and breaking a tradition that has been in place as long as people can remember is not going to happen without a vicious fight.  I am for Gay Unions because I believe it will have the effect of slowly introducing this &#8220;new&#8221; idea to people and will help them gain acceptance.   </p>
<p>Once people realize that their lives are not in any way harmed by the gay guy in accounting getting benefits for the love of his life they will become more accepting of the lifestyle.  This is a pragmatic approach intended to ease the country into something that frankly greatly disturbs a great number of people.  </p>
<p>I think everything can and should be included in the Gay Union that is included in a marriage- rights of survivorship, rights of making medical decisions, death benefits, pension benefits,   etc etc.</p>
<p>It is time to stand up and confront the unfair standards imposed on gay people by those who refuse to understand.  If you consider the gay lifestyle a sin it is time to hate the sin and love the sinner.  God gave us free will who are you to deny it to your fellow citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders Hegelund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders Hegelund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s OK that homosexual people are couples. But I don&#039;t like to watch them holding hands, kissing and so..
I think it&#039;s un-natural and weird. I don&#039;t understand them, and I will never.

Let them get married, I don&#039;t care.
They&#039;re human too right?
Must be human right to be with who-ever you love..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s OK that homosexual people are couples. But I don&#8217;t like to watch them holding hands, kissing and so..<br />
I think it&#8217;s un-natural and weird. I don&#8217;t understand them, and I will never.</p>
<p>Let them get married, I don&#8217;t care.<br />
They&#8217;re human too right?<br />
Must be human right to be with who-ever you love..</p>
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		<title>By: B Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole reasoning behind banning gay marriage is loaded with holes.  I just love the arguement that marriage is about rasing kids - so why not ban sterile people, and old people from getting married?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole reasoning behind banning gay marriage is loaded with holes.  I just love the arguement that marriage is about rasing kids &#8211; so why not ban sterile people, and old people from getting married?</p>
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		<title>By: Darla Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darla Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!</description>
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		<title>By: cardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good write from you nice work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good write from you nice work</p>
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