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		<title>By: Shelly  Barclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly  Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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The Gay Community means male homosexuals. Male Homosexuals do
not speak for lesbians.&quot;

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The Gay Community means male homosexuals. Male Homosexuals do<br />
not speak for lesbians.&#8221;</p>
<p>Idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: A. Fool</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of straight people, if you haven&#039;t noticed, are not going through marriage ceremonies for the same reason.  Think of how many straight people are just living together, forming companies,  contracts, etc to avoid the problems.  The Gay community should be leading the way.

Considering the number of pre-nups, considering the utilisation of contracts in re property in many many hetero marriages today,  one wonders what the gay community is thinking.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of straight people, if you haven&#8217;t noticed, are not going through marriage ceremonies for the same reason.  Think of how many straight people are just living together, forming companies,  contracts, etc to avoid the problems.  The Gay community should be leading the way.</p>
<p>Considering the number of pre-nups, considering the utilisation of contracts in re property in many many hetero marriages today,  one wonders what the gay community is thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um Hello,

If you are straight, there is no need for lawyers or any of that bull!  So what makes it different for gays?  The fact that they are a couple of the same sex?

And btw, Gay discrimination and Hate antics aren&#039;t only thrown at gay people but any effeminate male, any tom boyish girl and their acceptance by society is not only a wholesome inclusion which benefits society as a whole but also protects many people who identify as queer and children who were reared in gay partnerships. The tragedy in this column is the perpetuated mythos that gays should be in hiding and if not they should fear the reprecussions of such publicity! Tripe!  Equality is the day justice doesn&#039;t stick her petty hands in my underwear and ban me from marrying my partner.  It&#039;s that simple.  We want to get married.  I think this is a matter we have to be vocal on, so yes, we do need attention.  How can a population of 3-10% percent do anything without some sort of attention, when the rights of a minority (a minority whose opposing majority is religious based) dissolve at the whim of voters?

Here you are, Gay person... Here is the maze of lawyers and law cases and you are here media res.  You have no  veritable &#039;choice.&#039;    If you find yourself in a corner, you are suspect of anyone you meet there.  Do not dare bring someone else along, do not dare compare yourself to the others in the maze. 

And by the way, saying &quot;its about the relationship, not the word,&quot; buy another vowel, Yo-r f-cked.  When do you stop whittling down what you feel for you partner, your hopes for a life with that person.  Until the voices of the conservatives are stridently truthful.  &quot;It could be anyone else.&quot;  When you want to say it for your valiant forever, you say  it with marriage, not a partnership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um Hello,</p>
<p>If you are straight, there is no need for lawyers or any of that bull!  So what makes it different for gays?  The fact that they are a couple of the same sex?</p>
<p>And btw, Gay discrimination and Hate antics aren&#8217;t only thrown at gay people but any effeminate male, any tom boyish girl and their acceptance by society is not only a wholesome inclusion which benefits society as a whole but also protects many people who identify as queer and children who were reared in gay partnerships. The tragedy in this column is the perpetuated mythos that gays should be in hiding and if not they should fear the reprecussions of such publicity! Tripe!  Equality is the day justice doesn&#8217;t stick her petty hands in my underwear and ban me from marrying my partner.  It&#8217;s that simple.  We want to get married.  I think this is a matter we have to be vocal on, so yes, we do need attention.  How can a population of 3-10% percent do anything without some sort of attention, when the rights of a minority (a minority whose opposing majority is religious based) dissolve at the whim of voters?</p>
<p>Here you are, Gay person&#8230; Here is the maze of lawyers and law cases and you are here media res.  You have no  veritable &#8216;choice.&#8217;    If you find yourself in a corner, you are suspect of anyone you meet there.  Do not dare bring someone else along, do not dare compare yourself to the others in the maze. </p>
<p>And by the way, saying &#8220;its about the relationship, not the word,&#8221; buy another vowel, Yo-r f-cked.  When do you stop whittling down what you feel for you partner, your hopes for a life with that person.  Until the voices of the conservatives are stridently truthful.  &#8220;It could be anyone else.&#8221;  When you want to say it for your valiant forever, you say  it with marriage, not a partnership.</p>
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		<title>By: fesbian lemonist</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/issues/forget-the-word-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-149841</link>
		<dc:creator>fesbian lemonist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are people going to wake up?  The relationship, not the word is important. You want to say my partner is more important to me than my blood relatives and I am legally protecting my partner.

I wish all the Gay sheep and Liberal Bigots would stay out of the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are people going to wake up?  The relationship, not the word is important. You want to say my partner is more important to me than my blood relatives and I am legally protecting my partner.</p>
<p>I wish all the Gay sheep and Liberal Bigots would stay out of the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: a  fool</title>
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		<dc:creator>a  fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point I have tried to make; if your marriage could be annulled at any moment by the state; if your relationship depends on the mood of the population at any given time, then what you have to do is resort to other legislation to insure protection.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point I have tried to make; if your marriage could be annulled at any moment by the state; if your relationship depends on the mood of the population at any given time, then what you have to do is resort to other legislation to insure protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Glynis Smy</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/issues/forget-the-word-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-86195</link>
		<dc:creator>Glynis Smy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOOHHH dare I mention my cousin and his partner &#039;married&#039; after 25yrs and are celebrating their 1st anniversary? I am celebrating 30yrs of marriage this year....what is the difference,aside from 5yrs, neither party has hurt anyone and we are 2 happily married couples. The difference? My family didn&#039;t go &#039; ugh&#039; &#039;What?! shock horror&#039; when I met my partner for life. Interesting debate, sorry article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOOHHH dare I mention my cousin and his partner &#8216;married&#8217; after 25yrs and are celebrating their 1st anniversary? I am celebrating 30yrs of marriage this year&#8230;.what is the difference,aside from 5yrs, neither party has hurt anyone and we are 2 happily married couples. The difference? My family didn&#8217;t go &#8216; ugh&#8217; &#8216;What?! shock horror&#8217; when I met my partner for life. Interesting debate, sorry article.</p>
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		<title>By: FESBIAN LEMONIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>FESBIAN LEMONIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gay Community means male homosexuals. Male Homosexuals do &lt;br /&gt;
not speak for lesbians.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ive waded through the crap posted by Drew Diligence and its the same old garbage Male Homosexuals have been pushing for decades.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a lesbian, if I wanted to be married Id be straight.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I dont want to be married in a white dress in church or anywhere else given to someone or someone is given to me.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I want protection, yes. I want my partner to be protected, yes and if there is a way to do it without the tired old crap of marriage, then that is what I want.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If Drew is a straight married man as he claims to be then get out&lt;br /&gt;
of my life. I dont need no straight married man to tell me what &lt;br /&gt;
I want or what I feel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If Drew is a gay guy playing straight as many do because deep down they are ashamed of their orientation I dont want to read his opinion ten times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gay Community means male homosexuals. Male Homosexuals do <br />
not speak for lesbians.</p>
<p>Ive waded through the crap posted by Drew Diligence and its the same old garbage Male Homosexuals have been pushing for decades.</p>
<p>As a lesbian, if I wanted to be married Id be straight.</p>
<p>I dont want to be married in a white dress in church or anywhere else given to someone or someone is given to me.  </p>
<p>I want protection, yes. I want my partner to be protected, yes and if there is a way to do it without the tired old crap of marriage, then that is what I want.</p>
<p>If Drew is a straight married man as he claims to be then get out<br />
of my life. I dont need no straight married man to tell me what <br />
I want or what I feel.</p>
<p>If Drew is a gay guy playing straight as many do because deep down they are ashamed of their orientation I dont want to read his opinion ten times.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Diligents</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/issues/forget-the-word-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-86189</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Diligents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Iron side; (that&#039;s another fictional lawyer, just in case you didn&#039;t get the reference)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I knew if I kept at you, you would show your true colors. &lt;br /&gt;
Your overarching belief is that the pursuit of marriage by gay people is attention seeking. That gay people are involved in a nationwide conspiracy to openly pursue marriage rights to “provoke heterosexual society”. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I saw your article for what it was on first reading and determined to bring you to account for it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You are nothing but a bigot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You need not worry about any more posts from me; you have condemned yourself with your own words. If you can’t recognize the ignorance of what you are saying, nothing I post will change that. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Iron side; (that&#8217;s another fictional lawyer, just in case you didn&#8217;t get the reference)</p>
<p>I knew if I kept at you, you would show your true colors. <br />
Your overarching belief is that the pursuit of marriage by gay people is attention seeking. That gay people are involved in a nationwide conspiracy to openly pursue marriage rights to “provoke heterosexual society”. </p>
<p>I saw your article for what it was on first reading and determined to bring you to account for it.</p>
<p>You are nothing but a bigot.</p>
<p>You need not worry about any more posts from me; you have condemned yourself with your own words. If you can’t recognize the ignorance of what you are saying, nothing I post will change that. </p>
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		<title>By: Drew Diligents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Diligents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Fool. You are like the hands of a clock, forever changing position. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The benefit I gain is to challenge your misconceptions, and to further the debate. I suspect the Dear Reader benefits more from reading this exchange than the poorly constructed article which is the source of our fracas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I am well aware that you gain huge amounts of money from this tête-à-tête, maybe as much as three or four cents. No doubt you need the money, and as I am not paying the bill, I couldn’t care less.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My friend if you are a lawyer I’m Osama Bin Laden’s left butt cheek. Your poor grammar and phrasing are not indicative of a person whose profession revolves around the written word. You also have no idea of who, or what I am. I didn’t concoct the nom de plume Drew Diligence so I could advertise my identity to all and sundry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your contention that persons who are not of a particular group cannot offer worthwhile comments in support or otherwise of that particular group are… strange.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
I am very aware that the gay community are well informed of their legal rights in regards to protecting their relationships. That is my point. Being thus aware, there must be another reason why the gay fraternity pursues the right to Marry. It is not the trite reason you put forth; to “provoke heterosexual society”, (those are your words in your article). It is the pursuit of true equality and the true validation of their relationships.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I look forward to your new article, I can only hope it is better written and more informed than the rubbish you normally inflict upon us, the Dear Reader. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Fool. You are like the hands of a clock, forever changing position. </p>
<p>The benefit I gain is to challenge your misconceptions, and to further the debate. I suspect the Dear Reader benefits more from reading this exchange than the poorly constructed article which is the source of our fracas.</p>
<p>I am well aware that you gain huge amounts of money from this tête-à-tête, maybe as much as three or four cents. No doubt you need the money, and as I am not paying the bill, I couldn’t care less.</p>
<p>My friend if you are a lawyer I’m Osama Bin Laden’s left butt cheek. Your poor grammar and phrasing are not indicative of a person whose profession revolves around the written word. You also have no idea of who, or what I am. I didn’t concoct the nom de plume Drew Diligence so I could advertise my identity to all and sundry.</p>
<p>Your contention that persons who are not of a particular group cannot offer worthwhile comments in support or otherwise of that particular group are… strange.</p>
<p>I am very aware that the gay community are well informed of their legal rights in regards to protecting their relationships. That is my point. Being thus aware, there must be another reason why the gay fraternity pursues the right to Marry. It is not the trite reason you put forth; to “provoke heterosexual society”, (those are your words in your article). It is the pursuit of true equality and the true validation of their relationships.</p>
<p>I look forward to your new article, I can only hope it is better written and more informed than the rubbish you normally inflict upon us, the Dear Reader. </p>
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		<title>By: a  fool</title>
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		<dc:creator>a  fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having written the article I would know its contents.&lt;br /&gt;
Further, I have never changed my position.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What I can&#039;t understand, is where I am defending&lt;br /&gt;
my article, you seem to gain no particular benefit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(you do know I&#039;m paid by hits, right?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike you, I do not discuss what I neither know, nor &lt;br /&gt;
concerns me. I happen to be a lawyer. You are not a lawyer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think anyone reading this fascinating exchange must &lt;br /&gt;
ponder why a so-called straight man has become &lt;br /&gt;
so fascinated by this topic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You penultimate paragraph&#039;s final sentence says it&lt;br /&gt;
all; &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;that doesn&#039;t mean I am...unable to comment on...&lt;br /&gt;
women&#039;s rights.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not that it isn&#039;t hysterically funny to see a white&lt;br /&gt;
guy telling black people what they want, or women&lt;br /&gt;
what they want, or a pseudo straight telling gays&lt;br /&gt;
what they want...&lt;br /&gt;
it is just that such comments are worthless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having posted the original article&#039;s contents elsewhere&lt;br /&gt;
and having received comments from the Gay Community...&lt;br /&gt;
that is, people who admit they are Gay and that the Law&lt;br /&gt;
effects them, have agreed with the concepts I raise in&lt;br /&gt;
re protection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As you might notice, no Gay reader has attacked the&lt;br /&gt;
legal issues as many are familiar with these methods&lt;br /&gt;
and use them. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, continue to respond to my posts.&lt;br /&gt;
I am basing another article on the exchanges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having written the article I would know its contents.<br />
Further, I have never changed my position.</p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t understand, is where I am defending<br />
my article, you seem to gain no particular benefit.</p>
<p>(you do know I&#8217;m paid by hits, right?)</p>
<p>Unlike you, I do not discuss what I neither know, nor <br />
concerns me. I happen to be a lawyer. You are not a lawyer. </p>
<p>I think anyone reading this fascinating exchange must <br />
ponder why a so-called straight man has become <br />
so fascinated by this topic.</p>
<p>You penultimate paragraph&#8217;s final sentence says it<br />
all; <br />
&#8216;that doesn&#8217;t mean I am&#8230;unable to comment on&#8230;<br />
women&#8217;s rights.&#8217;</p>
<p>Not that it isn&#8217;t hysterically funny to see a white<br />
guy telling black people what they want, or women<br />
what they want, or a pseudo straight telling gays<br />
what they want&#8230;<br />
it is just that such comments are worthless.</p>
<p>Having posted the original article&#8217;s contents elsewhere<br />
and having received comments from the Gay Community&#8230;<br />
that is, people who admit they are Gay and that the Law<br />
effects them, have agreed with the concepts I raise in<br />
re protection.</p>
<p>As you might notice, no Gay reader has attacked the<br />
legal issues as many are familiar with these methods<br />
and use them. </p>
<p>However, continue to respond to my posts.<br />
I am basing another article on the exchanges.</p>
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