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White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

"What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound."

Note:This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden.  What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

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Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound.  Was that accurate?

A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama)  I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.”  There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so.  President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper.  The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama.  Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position.  This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton.  She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such.  As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts.  One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world.  Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East. 

Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

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  1. CHIPMUNK

    On May 3, 2011 at 11:59 am


    complicated issues to me

  2. CHIPMUNK

    On May 3, 2011 at 12:02 pm


    complicated affairs

  3. sammyz1

    On May 3, 2011 at 12:14 pm


    It can be easy ordering someone\’s death, no matter if the target is a mass murderer

  4. chennysan

    On May 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm


    hardly surprising such news! I honestly believe he is dead!

  5. Lyfsatrip

    On May 3, 2011 at 12:35 pm


    My favorite part:

    President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the “situation room” where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room.

    He’s exactly what we, who are the intelligence of this nation, have known all along. He is a man child and totally incapable of leading or making any decisions that are significant in nature. Thank you Mr. Panetta, Gates, and Mrs. Clinton (altho I believe she’s still trying to right the wrong her husband did all those years ago)

  6. K.Riccisux

    On May 3, 2011 at 2:20 pm


    KIMBERLY RICCI is an unamerican BITCH! She is antin american, and her and all the republican cinspiracy Theorists deserve to go to Hell Just like Bin Laden, which OBAMA Captured .8 yrs in office and all BUSH did was keep Bin Laden hidden at the Bush compound…

  7. The Mega Independent

    On May 3, 2011 at 2:47 pm


    all BUSH did was keep Bin Laden hidden at the Bush compound…
    —————————–

    So Bush wasn’t an idiot, then?

  8. Osama's Ghost

    On May 3, 2011 at 3:12 pm


    Interesting write-up. This is my first time at this site, so I can’t determine how valid this account is. But it is interesting in hindsight how Obama has been so casual and going to fundraisers, being on the view, etc. – not quite the activity you’d expect with something so serious being planned.

    Additionaly, this would tie into the reports from the MSM that he was pulled off the golf course- you certainly get the feeling from the photo of the command room they sent out, that Obama was completely superflous to the activity taking place.

  9. Todd Hicks

    On May 3, 2011 at 3:29 pm


    Your article is informative but it would be nice if you broke it up into paragraphs.

  10. John Galt

    On May 3, 2011 at 3:47 pm


    Bush was the mastermind. It seems Obama is the simpleton.
    Speaking of Klinton, the evil really shows on her face. How much bondo do they have to paste on there to hide those crevasses?

  11. Bob Dobolina

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:12 pm


    You’re a liar. We’ve seen the photo in the situation room. This unsourced garbage is clearly ridiculous.

  12. Bob Dobolina

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:26 pm


    Is this the new birtherism? More phony conspiracy theories from the radical right? Another smear campaign in the works? Who wrote this pathetic crap for you? Someone from inside the GOP attack machine. Here’s a clue: you can’t Swiftboat a sitting President. You’re fools if you think this won’t backfire against you.

  13. FreedomFighter

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:34 pm


    The truth is truly coming out! You libs just can’t stand it!

  14. 1lumpor2

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm


    This would explain the seating placement in the Situation room photo. Obama off to the side not looking at all in control in a 3 button white golf shirt, looks like a shirt I would wear to go golfing.

  15. 1lumpor2

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm


    This would explain the seating placement in the Situation room photo. Obama off to the side not looking at all in control in a 3 button white golf shirt, looks like a shirt I would wear to go golfing.

  16. Dion

    On May 3, 2011 at 4:59 pm


    Wow. Really? I guess if it’s here on the internet, it MUST be true. Please people. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d love to sell you.

  17. Joan of Argghh!

    On May 3, 2011 at 5:15 pm


    What the Hell does Valerie Jarrett have to do with any of this? Oh yeah, now I remember: she’s “Obama’s Brain.”

  18. Avogadra

    On May 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm


    Wellllll…if this is true, it explains the photo in the situation room. Obama looks like the smallest person there. That didn’t seem right if he was the one running the show.

    Also, it would explain why the press briefing was over an hour late on Sunday night. They had to write the script and get him to rehearse it until it sounded authentic. I’ll give him credit–he was a pretty good actor–but now that details are starting to come out, it’s looking like everything was a lie, as usual.

  19. Ronald N. Simpson

    On May 3, 2011 at 5:53 pm


    Hey, I thought we on the right were the only ones alleged to operate off of conspiracy theories !

  20. perc2100

    On May 3, 2011 at 6:04 pm


    This is ludicrous, and goes against what ACTUAL people who were there have publicly said. This is nothing more than drivel: pure fiction! These supposed “details” are obviously contracted in REAL media sights, not just this tabloid rag. I encourage any readers who believe this nonsense actually search for corroborating evidence from real sources. Let me save you the trouble: you likely won’t find it.

  21. Froggy

    On May 3, 2011 at 6:35 pm


    This is obviously a very explosive allegation made on a blog that I have never heard of. I am definitely sympathetic to this story in that it rings somewhat true to me. However, coming out with an unsourced report of this nature is irresponsible and frankly smells like a trap. Without any sourcing I have to assume that you are some kind of Dem operative trying to bait conservatives into making false charges against a POTUS who is seen in a much more positive light as a result of this successful mission. I have to tell you that this is quite well done and I especially appreciate the areas where you actually admit that your source lacks some information. That said, I do hope that nobody on the GOP side takes this ball and runs with it, because this is a political suicide vest.

  22. patriot

    On May 3, 2011 at 6:40 pm


    WOW. This is incredible but also very believable. The photo might be the most concrete proof that this is legit. Why is the president in his golf clothes? Where is Jarrett? Why is the president sitting in a corner? It looks like Hillary Clinton has the operation folder in her hands. The president has nothing. Just WOW. This was quite a read.

  23. Eyeswideopen

    On May 3, 2011 at 6:50 pm


    What a bunch of crap…So, Obama can’t make up his mind, a decision that might kill innocent people? Hello? It’s OK to use drones in Lybia that kills children, women & men that are civilians but now Obama’s sensitive to this while the drone continue to kill?
    Talk about double speak, wake up, who the heck wrote this?
    This is the most contrived story I’ve read or heard so far…this is disgusting..because you think the American people are stupid, that we don’t know what is really going down.
    Reading this article, we can know say that Obummer is not responsible for this action if it backfires on him, as the White House is now realizing that no one really believes this story about Osama as we know he’s been dead since 2001, from Renal failure..our government did not kill Osama, in fact the Bush family were friends with him.
    Osama has now been killed 9 times, this is so funny that so many people are believing the continued lies..
    Here’s what the so called “killing of Osama” is about: Torture is a good thing as they’ve stated they received intel about where Osama was from waterboarding…the torture will continue…of course, you are not free to travel but the security is now compounded, now they can supposedly give good reason for the TSA to grope you in a sexual way, and now put more restrictions on all the people of America.
    This is about more control, about fear, yeah, now the enemy is going to nuke us…this is all contrived by our government as they know they’ve lost the backing of the American people, trying to make you forget about the corruption and greed, the economy that’s about to crash very soon, and yes, it will be blamed on this false death of Osama..so much more…please do the research..BTW, I love that Obama’s rating has stayed the same (24% approval) in spite of this so called killing of Osama…now, that’s why this article was written..yeah, to boost Obama’s ratings cause they did it behind his back..yeah, I also have a bridge to sell you…

  24. Kim

    On May 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm


    Aside from your claim that Leon Panetta “made the call” the rest of this extremely insider account doesn’t really sound too out of place.

    It’s not the Presidents job to gather the intel., comprise a plan or train the troops responsible for carrying it out. It’s his staff’s responsibility to do so and the President says “Go” when he and his team believe the result outweighs the risk.

    Who else would the CIA operatives be reporting to if not Panetta? Do you think they skip over his head and report to the President?

    Sadly, most people likely won’t read between the lines and see the piece for the drivel it is.

  25. your brother bozo

    On May 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm


    I don’t know what’s worse – that you actually believe this or you just made it up. Either way, you are one sick pup.

  26. conrado fontanilla

    On May 3, 2011 at 7:13 pm


    I am confused. I keep substituting the ’s’ with ‘b’ and back in name of two people. Joke time! I remember. Our president was also golfing who was spirited out of the golf course, the media reported. Then he announced the successful raid on an arsenal. If you failed, I did not know what you tried to do, is the game.

  27. LibJim

    On May 3, 2011 at 8:08 pm


    I would like to see confirmation from a securely reliable source on this story, so far, all I’ve seen is reprints of this article.

  28. ArmyGuy

    On May 3, 2011 at 8:14 pm


    If indeed it happened as described here you have to hand it to his cabinet. They figured out a way to get around his indecisiveness. And they did it in a way that was not in direct violation of what he had told them to do.
    Certainly Ms. Jarrett did not approve, but she is only an advisor. Daley is the Chief of Staff; Clinton, the Secretary of State; Gates, the Secretary of Defense; and Panetta, the CIA director and future SecDef. They would all outrank Jarrett. It seems Panetta played it well by going with the prior approval and then letting the President know when it was almost over.
    Quite frankly you could look at it as they were protecting the President. He could certainly have claimed he was unaware if things had gone poorly.
    Of course, that all depends on whether this is in fact, true. As for that… Who’s to say?

  29. bobhotchkiss

    On May 3, 2011 at 8:40 pm


    This is too important a story to be left to unknown sources. We who are opposed to what Obama stands for must be very careful in our criticisims, to focus on policy and its implications. By the way, there is NOTHING black about Obama other than his skin tone. He is psychologically a white, middle class liberal/radical who happens to have a Nigerian as a biological father, and he is completely the product of the current form of the Marxist/Socialist worldview.

  30. Peeches

    On May 3, 2011 at 9:34 pm


    I would very much like to know what it is you’ve been smoking and if you have any you’d like to share.

  31. cnnlies

    On May 3, 2011 at 9:47 pm


    The WH Insider’s track record speaks for itself. I believe 100% of the article and can only hope that Daley sticks around this White House for as long as Obama is there. Hillary would already be gone, but she’s too damn scared to leave the incompetent brat (that would be Obama) with VJ, Michelle and the rest of the Chicago trash.

  32. Nate Whilk

    On May 3, 2011 at 9:54 pm


    Osama’s Ghost On May 3, 2011 at 3:12 pm wrote, “But it is interesting in hindsight how Obama has been so casual and going to fundraisers, being on the view, etc. – not quite the activity you’d expect with something so serious being planned.”

    OTOH, if Obama didn’t maintain an ordinary schedule, that would send a clear signal that something was up and might alert the target.

    I say this strictly hypothetically, without assuming anything about what the decision process actually was and without saying Socyberty’s account is true or false.

  33. Rusty Nail

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:02 pm


    He is a usurper. Look it up Donna. A nobody, from nowhere with no experience. He’s racking up quite a golf game, or so it seems, but otherwise a cracker-jack, ace-in-the-hole Toast Master general purpose empty suit. I used to work with a guy just like him, a verifiable jackass that really was incapable of performing his job/blatantly lazy, and thought that he had everybody fooled–until the day they requested his presence and said, “Today is the last day you’ll work here.” With over half a billion dollars to get this teleprompted arrogant usurper into the oval office, there is no way a 46-yr old community organizer is running this three-ring circus. I just hope that the Patriots who might still exist within the United States Military will rip the lid off this den of satan that IS the obamao administration.

  34. Pat

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:03 pm


    I had zero confidence in Panetta when he was appointed. he was a liberal going to an incompetent bureaucracy infested with lazy liberals. I was wrong. In 2 years he has turned this agency into a functioning unit again. Something Bush and Clinton could not.

    If this story is true, Obama is a fraud and Jarret a traitor.

  35. Jani Burlington

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:12 pm


    This is way more believable than Obama’s speech. He stated Bin Laden was located in AUGUST 2010. We, the top nation with the top intelligence, take 8-9 months to verify this is where he is?
    As a resident of IL, please remember Obama is part of the Chicago machine….he was a JR senator, and his most prominent vote was to abstain or vote, “not present.” The fits what he was in IL….an expert in social function, but a spineless, worthless, leader.

  36. JEF

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:13 pm


    I have read before that Jarrett is his right hand man so to speak. If this is true I would look for Jarrett to be marginalized in the near future. She is said to have made alot of enemies and she is supposed to be one of the reasons Rahm left. Remember when Rahm left it was in such a hurry he didn\’t realize there was a residency clause in Chicago. That is a embarresing mistake if you want to be Mayor but it is an example of people that can campain but not govern. They are all a bunch of a**hats with no leadership qualities and it all comes from the head. Look for more of this in the future.

  37. gladius

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:22 pm


    Pat you are so right. My opinion of Panetta,if this is true, has respectufally changed.

  38. N0bamaNoMore

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:29 pm


    Who said Valerie Jarrett is “Obama’s brain”?

    That’s demonstrably wrong – there’s evidence that Valerie Jarrett actually exists.

  39. Mr Simms

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:44 pm


    Damn! Hadn’t read any insider stuff in a few months and then this popped in the old in-box today and all I can say is Damn!!! This was one fun and interesting read. And now a lot of the after the fact media reporting seems to be supporting this version of things. And that pic of Obama sitting in the corner cracks me up. Goodness what a dweeb. Kudos to our special forces. They done good!

  40. serr8d

    On May 3, 2011 at 10:47 pm


    Valerie Jarrett? Seriously? That Ulsterman piece is garbage. There’s no way even BHO would allow such a guttersnipe as Jarrett that much influence over Him.

    Why, M’Chelle might find out and would sit on Jarrett!

    I believe BHO was idly involved, at arm’s length, until the time came to either place blame or take credit. He sat there in the Situation Room, distant and ignored, looking like he’d bet a couple grand on a basketball game that could go either way. His mind likely raced with ways to spin another failure, if one occurred, on someone else. He probably released the Trump-destroying birth certificate just as a stress-relieving exercise, a personal distraction he could toy with.

    Jarrett might be an on-the-side piece of ass, but she’s not anything that would get in the way of (or influence) BHO’s massive A-bomb narcissism. She’s not even in his league.

  41. Palooza

    On May 3, 2011 at 11:45 pm


    Wow, you people (and the author of this idiotic post) are pathetic losers. I mean, real honest-to-goodness morons.

  42. Randy Ranson

    On May 3, 2011 at 11:53 pm


    Hillary Clinton’s done everything she could to save this two bit slick tongued con man hustler from going down into the gutter from which he sprang up from. Barack Obama owes his whole support as being even somewhat acceptable as a President of the United States to Hillary Rodham Clinton more than anyone else alive today. Without her support after the primaries he would never have been taken seriously as President, she made his Presidency possible, not even Valerie Jarrett could’ve got him into the White House. People so easily forget the power the Clinton’s can bring to bear on the country from a supportive point of view.
    I believe if it weren’t for Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta and Bill Gates, OBL would still be alive today. Thank you all.
    BHO you are such a lucky guy for being such a big failure.

  43. amen hammer

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:01 am


    Very persuasive and believable. It is very consistent with how Obama handles all foreign policy decisions. As some from the Whitehouse said when asked to describe the Pres strategy – it\\\’s called \\\”leading from behind\\\”.

  44. thatsitivehadenough

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:08 am


    Thank-you! Thank-you! A thousand times!

    Keep up the GREAT WORK! America needs you.

  45. henrick

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:20 am


    Interesting. More believable than the official story with barry at the helm. After all, it took him days to give the green light on the Somali pirates. Although some say that decision was taken out of his hands as well.

  46. S. Spray

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:26 am


    If this is true, it’s remarkable. I have to say, seems consistent with Obama’s character. While he’s kept many of Bush’s policies in place with respect to Iraq and certainly Afghanistan, this seemed to be far too difficult and risky a decision to make for someone who repeatedly voted “present” as an Illinois state senator. The lack of respect for the President and his authority here are amazing if true.

  47. AKRNC

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:45 am


    Is this really the best fairy tale you could come up with regarding the situation with bin Laden? Of course, you have to try to denigrate the President even further by saying he “had to be pulled off the golf course”.

    Not a bit of this story is believable, nothing. 24% approval rating?? Where the hell did you get that from? Oh, right, that’s the “strongly approve” number, not the entire approval number which as of today is between 49 and 56 depending on which website you use.

    Your story is a joke and only pathetic RWNJ’s would fall for this load of crap.

  48. Glen

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:49 am


    The reason you know this is true is that Obama was golfing, note the shirt. What POTUS this close to killing Bin Laden would be out on the golf course, unless they were not aware of what was happening.

    This makes sense, and is certainly better than what I originally expected which was that Obama did not even know until after it was done, which could not be squared with the photo from the situation room.

    What would this man do if there was a nuclear attack?

  49. Dan

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:49 am


    Who is this writer? How could he possibly know this information 24 hrs after this major event. This would be classified information.

  50. Johnny

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:02 am


    Some people are stupid, they refuse to see that Mr. ovomit is preparing his way for re-election.. Just like he came out of the sudden with his B/C, I mean an already been proved forgery B/C, the same as now with Laden. Where´s the body, and how conveniently was buried in to the sea, so no one can see his body. Hmm, I say, Mr. Ovomit, you are a damn liar, and you´ll die a liar.

  51. John.in.Georgia

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:04 am


    After reading this, one is moved to ask, Is Valerie Jarrett the power behind POTUS? She does have deep roots with the First Couple in Chicago and knows where the skeletons are hidden.

    Now when I view the pic of all the players watching the live video feed of the operation, Obama looks really small and projects the image of a kid watching Saturday morning cartoons.

  52. Sean

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:06 am


    I loathe Barack Obama, but this is wholly not believable. If this was true, someone ought to have the cajones to come out and say it themselves. Every presidency is dogged by assistants to deputy secretaries 5 times removed from the scenario who speculate wildly on hearsay. This is bunk until someone owns up to such outrageous accusations.

  53. Laura B

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:07 am


    any time the truth comes out…you are a birther or racist if you consider anything other than the lies told to us…the night of the killing the state dept \’s info conflicted with the White House\’s…the stories got crazier and crazier…even today the story has changed….people were told by the Nazi\’s they were going to have a shower and sadly the followers just walked in to their deaths…so shut up to those who won\’t listen to the possiblity we\’ve been \”had\” by the WH just one more time….

  54. Tiberius

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:23 am


    Right or wrong, the Commander in Chief actually IS in command.

    Had this high-risk mission gone horribly wrong–and there was every possiblity that it could have done–those who are presently denying that Obama made the decisions would be stating that those decisions were entirely his own.

  55. TOG

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:39 am


    I have never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever, never ever met a Democrat that would listen to reason and who did not operate off of raw emotion rather than logic and truth. It’s sad to see how polarized we Americans are and it is so evident when you read the above posts. Most of the Dems posts are foul mouthed, angry, and defensive. Whatever – you believe what you want to believe, but the more you open your mouths the more you show your true colors – and I don’t think they are red, white, and blue. I would just assume believe this “dribble” than anything that comes out of Obama’s mouth. Congratulations Panetta.

  56. Clear Eyed Realist

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:16 am


    Rings true. It is President Obama’s method of operation to a T. I believe it. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the years to come. This man is an empty suit. He had no practical experience in any field that would qualify him for the position that he now holds.

  57. Lewis

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:18 am


    Once again Obummer looked and acted like one of the keystone cops………..or Tiny Tim.

  58. beturarses

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:28 am


    I also was horrified with the appointment of Panetta and am happily eating some humble pie.
    Incredibly frightening that such feats needed to be pulled off for the American military and the American people to acquire victory and some justice.
    As for Hillary, I respect her efforts and see she was crucial in this missions success.
    Lest we not forget she to is an abject failure as SOS.
    She has kowtailed to the Islamic bandwagon this administration is hellbent on foisting upon Israel and this country.
    As a woman I am appalled with her deaf,dumb and blind approach to diplomacy.
    Putting on a headscarf isn’t gonna gain you respect.
    Nor will throwing tyrants a tax payer funded Islamic gala in DC when you’ve already sent their hostile regimes billions of bucks to fruitlessly appease.

    Obama’s administration had to manipulate the President of the United States for the American military and the people.
    I am thankful for that.

    Yet Obama continues to enable and empower the momentous ascent of oppression,enslavement,subjugation and that lil ol’ pesky thing one calls a genocide
    …But he does it with a wink and a smile.

    To all those condescending liberals throwing mud around,
    The need to bring out your claws and lack of insight conveys to those of us who actually follow the news (and not just local )
    that you have no idea who you’re hero is.
    This piece resonates ‘Barry’.
    Its in synch with just what is and is not happening under this charlatans reign.

    Bravo Intelligence Community and our bad asses in the Military!!
    NSE!!

  59. anonymous

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:33 am


    I’m not sure I believe this, but if it is fiction it’s top rate. If there’s truth to this it’s terrifying. Also, if this is true, Republicans should stop talking about Hillary Clinton’s evil makeup and acknowledge her public service.

    Circumstantial evidence to consider: Obama’s speech to the nation after the capture of OBL–did it sound more like an Obama speech or a Clinton speech? I’m inclined to think Clinton’s people wrote it.

  60. Tiberius

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:36 am


    @ TOG

    Was it the logic of democrats that let Osama bin Laden escape from Tora Bora? Maybe the Bush administration reasoned that he was headed for Iraq.

  61. Sam

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:49 am


    One thing is probably checkable after some digging, the weather for the first, aborted mission.

  62. Bryan

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:03 am


    the article is complete trash. if anybody really believes that others acted unilaterally and the president didn’t know what was happening, c’mon. A decision like that always comes from the president, it’s his ass on the line if it goes wrong. The media isn’t going to blame Panetta or anybody else. To you unamerican republicans (not all republicans) go make me a slurpy along with the Pakistani’s who are trying to take credit.

  63. Patriot76

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:10 am


    Think about people, how could anyone play golf when you know you are just hours from directing one of the most historic covert missions in history. You would think Obama would have been involved in the planning all day and golf would have been the last thing on his mind. I believe the story

  64. Stuart McHardy

    On May 4, 2011 at 4:04 am


    This fits perfectly with the scenario I have been pondering since the news broke. Obama had to be forced to make a decision, leveraged as he knew that too many people knew what he now knew about OBL’s location, and he could not afford to have it get out that he had passed on the chance to get him. His involvement as a leader was said to be that he “authorized” the mission.
    The cry that he led this, was the driving force, or even had the respect and confidence in our military to initiate this all rang as hollow and clearly unlike Obama. The only two positives to date of his administration is his “authorization” for the marksmen to take out the Somali pirates, and this “authorization’ to allow this mission to proceed. With this revelation, his “authorization” in fact being a coup d’etat really demonstrates how ineffectual a clown he is. He was elected as a token, with no thought to his background, his experience, his ideals, or his Chicago-rooted political and malevolent Marxist disrespect and dismissiveness of the core threads of American fabric.

  65. TruthSeeker

    On May 4, 2011 at 4:13 am


    Junk fiction. Nice attempt, though, to draw people to your site. If you stand by your story, Ulsterman, how about publishing your real name?

  66. NinthCrusade

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:28 am


    Thanks, Leon.

  67. Albert Schwartz

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:30 am


    When White House Insider was giving political gossip there were many possibilities for the leak. What was just published concerns information that was top secret and very limited in distribution. Probably it was limited to national security principals and a top deputy. This is not the type of information that they would whisper about beyond this limited circle.

    Given the past posts, my guess is White House Insider is Chief of Staff to the Vice President or very close to that official. That is, assuming that the information is true and not fabricated out of Ulsterman’s imagination.

  68. Don L

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:47 am


    Hey, sixteen hours isn’t hesitation. That’s enough time for a strong leader like Obama to get in a few rounds of golf.

  69. Earl

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:04 am


    …The Libbertards are in denial…..this version is very consistent with POTHEAD…….I mean POTUS Obama normal actions and reactions. Makes perfect sense and looking back on his actions , is completely believable…..Libbernuts are furious……….and I love it!!!!

  70. Roberto

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:08 am


    It is significant that this was the “best” photo of Obama
    that was available. He certainly looks like the guy that brough the coffee to the meeting and stayed behind to take a peek at what was going on.

  71. muffler

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:32 am


    This is all bunk. In fact it all stems from the same person and is being memed out through the same tree of web sites. There is of course no supporting fact or even a hint on any substantiation.

  72. Will

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:37 am


    I knew the anti-Obama crowd would be apoplectic that the President executed the mission we set out on almost a decade ago, shortly after two years in office.

    I anticipated the fictional accounts of how torture was the key; I was only slightly surprised at the suggestion that the only reason this happened was because of the “foresight” of the previous Administration to establish a huge military presence in SWA.

    But I never anticipated this one….the most ridiculous piece of nonsense I’ve ever read.

    The author of this tripe, and anyone who takes it seriously, should really seek help.

  73. LoveMyCountry

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:53 am


    Look at Hillary’s hand over her mouth. In body language that gesture suggests fear, horror or uncertainty. I wonder why she would be doing that if she was in on the kill mission. Looking at it another way, this death of OBL is just one less Muslim for obama to bow to. He is the worst and most un-American president this country has ever had. Can’t wait until he and his minions are voted out!!!

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  75. Matt

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:57 am


    I stopped reading this because hey, no source!!

  76. LACE

    On May 4, 2011 at 9:41 am


    This is interesting information if it is indeed accurate. Since Obama has been unresponsive on other issues like how to proceed in Afghanistan. It took him months before he had a policy and this was not under a stressful situation. He has been at odds with the military Commanders over the running of the war. So I can see him not able to make a snap decision when required. Then you add his lack of experience in the International world and his failing position in this country and this would compound indecision. As for Valerie Jarrett, she has been with him since his Chicago days. Her father-in-law had close connections to the Communist Party and was friends with Frank Marshall Davis who was a Communist and under investigation by the FBI – Obama’s mentor in Hawaii. It was Valerie who hired Michelle Obama to work in Mayor Washington’s Office. Harold Washington had many strong connections and support from the Communist and Socialist parties in Illinois. Valerie’s mother Barbara Bowman ran the Chicago based Erikson Institute. An ealy Erikson board member was Chicago businessman and “liberal” activist Tom Ayers-father of Weather Underground terrorist leader and long time Obama colleague Bill Ayers. Bernardine Dohrn, wife of Bill and reputedly the real leader of Weather Underground has also served on the Erikson board in recent years.

    Valerie Jarrett was instrumental in bringing in Van Jones who is a card carrying Communist. I can see why she might not want to have it known that Obama killed Osama.

    Obama and Jarrett are inexperienced, neophytes and if they have run this country into the ground, they would have done the same to the raid against Osama.

  77. Roger

    On May 4, 2011 at 9:42 am


    After reading the article I would have to say that “everything lines up” and fits to a tee the persona of a ‘weak’ and ‘manipulated’ puppet. Certainly the batting average of the reporter is pretty good and the specifics, right down to the ‘papers’ to read (from) not being present going in BUT being present coming out (small details but seemingly very telling)… and other sources DO indicate the prez was pulled of the (aahem) golf course. And don’t think for a minute that if this went wrong it would have been O’s ‘cross’… Carter dodged the responsibility of the Tehran fiasco (or tried to).
    And yes, the ‘body language’, the guy sitting in the corner, Oh, yeah, he is the President. He looks more like someone who should be serving coffee – meek, no real fact based opinions… flows with the wind (or Soros)…
    I ‘think’ I believe the article… and we may never know for sure but there are ’statements’ within that line up exactly with verifiable moments outside of the intrigue and also accurately speak to the personalities involved. Have to give this a ’strong’ accuracy rating if you are a thinking person.

  78. RivieraParadiseMan

    On May 4, 2011 at 9:42 am


    I’ve read all the Libs “Dis-information” whining and weighed out the factors in this story:

    #1 If you have this much insider information and want it to continue, you’re WAY TOO CLOSE to be citing references/sources in the article. I’d be convinced Hillary leaked it.

    #2 If you’re the “stand-in” President, hoping to get re-hoaxed into office under the pretense that your Kenyan father somehow fits you into the U.S. Constitution…a second time; and the man whose death could get you re-hoaxed (prounounced “re-elected”) is about to get snuffed…

    …why are you in a golf shirt while everyone else is dressed for the photo-op??? Were you REALLY out there on the golf course during this event so close to being pulled off??? Were you REALLY on top of the game, or just on top of YOUR game (golf). Valerie had everything under control for you…
    as always???

    #3 Why do you look so out of place in the photo-op instead of “in charge”? Biden and Gen Marshall “Brad” Webb look more in charge than you do O’boy. Gen Webb looks relaxed with the joystick firmly in hand, Hillary with the playbook in her lap and you look like you’re just catching up to the REAL game.

  79. Cap'n Flint

    On May 4, 2011 at 9:58 am


    I believe this scenario is very plausible and, quite likely, mostly true. It’s been obvious for quite some time that someone else is calling the shots. Obama doesn’t have the leadership skills or the stones for the job he has purchased and lied his way into. I would believe that Valarie Jarrett is is both ruthless and cunning enough to be so focused on self-preservation and thus, the need for maintaining the umbrella of protection offered by the Obamas, that she would do ANYTHING, including be willing to let OBL escape to protect her position.
    It’s hard to tell who would be the more vicious foe..Dead Fish Rohm or Valarie Jarret. Either would be scary to oppose.
    History will prove that this is a completely “behind the scenes” presidency with Gutless and Stupid as its leader(s) and Plotting and Scheming as its behind the curtain “puppeteers”
    pulling the strings. BTW…to those who like to “profile” it’s also pretty obvious that VJ is the “mom with brains and cunning” Barry never had…and Michelle is following right in VJs footsteps and will take over the mothering duties when VJ is eventually prosecuted for all the fun and games that took place in Chicago.
    Sad….so sad….no leaders…just liars.

  80. Utlax18

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:06 am


    Looks like Hillary has a bigger “pair” than Obama!!

  81. ORly?

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:08 am


    “The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me.”

    Oooh, oooh, was it Elvis? This is quite mysterious, as the identity of this third person seems to be the only thing that this source doesn’t know. They know every other conversation, motive and action of every player for the last 6 months. It’s as if it was all happening in their head!

  82. SwampFox2u

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:30 am


    So who is really in charge ? Obama is only a figure head it would appear. Is he the man with his finger on the buttom at the 3 AM call? If Jarrett has that much influence she needs to go.

  83. Bill Smith

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:36 am


    What a bunch of crap. I feel sorry for anyone who believes this, they truly must be stupid. Use your common sense knuckle head. First you state that Obama opposed the invasion against Hillary Clinton insisting that they go in. AND then you say that Hillary starting providing leaks to the media in order to pressure Obama into pulling off the covert action. Does this make any sense to you? IF HILLARY WANTED IT TO GO DOWN WOULD SHE BE LEAKING THE COVERT ACTION TO THE MEDIA. Don\’t you think it would get back to Bin Laden and he would relocate. I can\’t believe how low some people are willing to stoop to propagate their destroy America agenda.

  84. Gunny

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:44 am


    Nice try “Bill Smith”. Go back and look at the media reports. The Hillary Clinton office did leak complaints to the media about a month ago. They called Obama amateuar hour or somethign like that. LOL. You Obamabots are sooooooooo in denial about your boy! LOL. And now did everyone catch how Leon Panetta is admitting waterboarding WORKs and helped catch Bin Laden and he is saying there WILL be a photo released even as other white house officials are saying NO. It all fits in with this insider version perfectly. This stuff is amazing. Obama is a loser people. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

  85. Gunny

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:45 am


    Nice try \”Bill Smith\”. Go back and look at the media reports. The Hillary Clinton office did leak complaints to the media about a month ago. They called Obama amateuar hour or somethign like that. LOL. You Obamabots are sooooooooo in denial about your boy! LOL. And now did everyone catch how Leon Panetta is admitting waterboarding WORKs and helped catch Bin Laden and he is saying there WILL be a photo released even as other white house officials are saying NO. It all fits in with this insider version perfectly. This stuff is amazing. Obama is a loser people. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

  86. kali

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:53 am


    Did anyon else notice the president is sitting in the corner of the room there in golf clothes??? Seems pretty legit to say that the guy was dragged off the golf course and brought into that meeting late. Where did that photo come from? Obama looks like a total goof. Just sayin.

  87. cnnlies

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:54 am


    I love how the libs are now clamoring for a source… sure… because Woodward and Bernstein named their source during Watergate. Grow up, dems, and recognize the impotent little boy that is Barack Obama.

  88. Louie

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:54 am


    Bill Smith or whoever, read the piece. Panetta and the Pentagon did and end run around Jarrett. They had to do it because she kept coming up with ridiculous reasons not to do it and Obama followed her every direction and kept stalling. Jarrett had Obama ok a covert land mission rather than bombing thinking it would take forever. Panetta was doing it concurrently. Jarrett was outclassed by a pro named Panetta.

  89. Kieth Anderle

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:56 am


    All I can say is we need a real leader and Mr. Obama is not it.

  90. Tasha

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:57 am


    The photograph in the situation room is very telling. Obama is sitting on the fringe of the group. He is not sitting at the table–you can see his right knee. His hands apppear to be folded between his knees. He does not have a laptop in front of him. There are no papers, photographs, notebooks or anything else in his lap or hands. In fact, there does not appear to be any space at the table allocated to him at all. He looks completely peripheral to the entire situation.

    This photograph is not, in any way, shape or form, a portrait of a president in command of a situation.

  91. Ashamed for you

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:12 am


    Wow. Some people will go to any lengths to find reasons to discredit this president. Unsourced article amounting to hearsay. What a pile of garbage.

  92. Steff McKeee

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:20 am


    Please read the prior post by White House Insider….
    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obamas-west-wing-civil-war/
    This was before the death of Bin Laden….Read what he says about Valerie Jarrett.

    With an absentee president who only cares about image, that’s gonna happen. So Jarrett has been running the show. She has built up her presence…her power, from day one. And she’s had her way on almost every critical issue. She pushed out Rahm, she’s alienated many of the most influential Congressional Democrats, she’s pissed off the military – oh that’s another story I’ll have to share with you soon. That one is still playing out right before our eyes though, so we gotta let that one turn out first. She’s gonna get burned on that too.

  93. jerseyflash

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:21 am


    situation room/top secret war room ???look at this picture and tell me it doesn’t look like your room built off of your garage. Were is Leon in the picture and who is the kid in the back of the room with dark hair (need to know-top secret clearance???)
    I do not see anybody saying “I’m going to sleep on it” and left the room. 16 hours later he tells (the need to know) “It’s a go-approved by my advisor Ms Jarett. Remember-Barry goes to her for everything. By the way (who took that picture-they left out a few inportant military people)

  94. Doc

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:22 am


    Anyone who believes this shit surely rode on the short bus. This shit is all made up by some idiot wearing a foil hat making hand prints with their shit!!!

    You people are so blinded in your hatred of Obama that you will believe anything that someone tells you.

    Wake the fuck up!!

  95. Osama Yo Momma

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:29 am


    I heard Obama was at KFC when bin Laden was shot dead. You morons on this website will believe anything. Wow this site does look credible (SARCASM)

  96. jones

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:37 am


    Hey Steff did that insider article come out before the Bin Laden stuff? Guess I could just check it out myself. But if that quote is legit from that article seems like he called it days before it all went down. Hmmm All this gives me a headache.

  97. mike

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:42 am


    Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval.

    Read more: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LOj5DUdz

    I love it. Jarrett is another Chicago gangster lawyer and obviously has Obama by the balls.
    If this is the way it happened, and I do not doubt it, I am sure glad that Penetta has some balls.

    Your, “If I make no decisions no one can pin anything on me” president.

  98. Reader

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:45 am


    FYI for newcomers to the Insider stuff. I have been following it since day one when he called very specific staff leaving, and then he called that there would be some Hillary Clinton for presdient storys coming out and it was like the next day and that story broke all over the news. Then it got to be pretty hit and miss but now this last week seems like they have nailed it again because there are other reports out there after the fact that seem to be saying similar things but insider said it first. IMHO I think insider is a connected reporter not a political operative. I think that is a cover. And I think these stories are testers before some of it runs in the mainstream media. But I do believe they don’t like Obama at all and are big Hillary fans. The push to have Hillary run in 2012 was a big part of these reports early on. And as for that photo where Obama looks like an idiot and was clearly taken from the golf course and brought back to the white house, the insider described that very thing before that photo was made public. It was by a few hours, but it was before. That is pretty damn amazing. That is not some lucky guessing, that is information coming from somebody who knew and got it out there fast. That was cool. Insider says to stay safe? He better be taking his own advice.

  99. Bigfritzi

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:45 am


    Ha! …Its sure easy to separate the Obama supporters in these replies from the Repubs..Who in the “heck” cares about who gave the order? Its a done deal and everyone is happy now..A new leader will spring up soon and we can all ride the “Merry-go-Round” again …!!

  100. sanaahmed

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:00 pm


    yeh they were watched live operations about Osama Bin Laden ..
    Great sharing ..
    did you read my article which one about Osama Bin Laden.. you can see killing picture or much more

  101. PHB

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:08 pm


    Didn’t take long for wingnuttia to think up a replacement for birtherism.

    I see no reason to believe this unsourced claim is anything other than a deliberate lie. The idea that anyone in the WH would be talking in this way to an obscure wingnut blog is ridiculous.

    Obama stated in the campaign that he would not hesitate to kill OBL if there was an opportunity.

  102. CJ

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:09 pm


    This report sounds viable, considering the history of territorial imperative events as seen in past administrations.

  103. Sheesh

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:16 pm


    Whoever wrote this load of rubbish ….message just in … they have a job for you at the National Enquirer.

    I absolutely can’t believe anyone is stupid enough to believe this unsubstantiated crap. What is even more alarming is some of the comments written above – absolute ignorance and lunacy!

    Anyone that believes this nonsense … please, please don’t procreate – we have enough idiots and haters in the world.

  104. Page

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:32 pm


    Oh My. Ulsterman facebook page said to watch for Holder news that he was in trouble yesterday. Turn on the tube this morning and what do I see? Eric Holder getting his ass handed to him by Issa at a Congressional hearing. And no word still from Valerie Jarrett. She was all over the news last week and now nothing. My oh my this is getting good! Thank you Ulsterman and Insider. You rock!!!!!

  105. LOL

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:34 pm


    Fanfiction for Beck groupies!!

  106. Will

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:42 pm


    For the believers in this tripe, as Forrest said, \”Stupid is as stupid does”

    Sorry…let the rest of the world know when you reenter Earth\’s atmosphere.

    Admitting you’re wrong, especially I’m guessing when you’ve been wrong since around 1980, is hard to do…I get that. You have my sympathies. But it’s time to let it go.

    Face it: The guy you don’t like got the job done, in a little over two years. Two years after nearly a decade and over 5000 American dead, untold thousands of Afghans and Iraqis, and nearly a $1T in costs looking in the wrong places.

    Deal with it.

    The rest of the country, and the world, is celebrating–as it should.

  107. Texmex

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:50 pm


    Thank god for Leon Panetta. And of course thank you to military who ignored Obama’s waffling and took out Osama. It was long overdue. All you have to do is look at the photo of Obama sitting in the corner of that room in his golf clothes to know this is true. Not sure who giving this information up but I would thank them as well. I will even tip my hat to Hillary Clinton as much as that pains me. As for Obama. The guy is will destroy America if he is able. That much is sure.

  108. bitterclinger

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:52 pm


    Wow! The lefties are furious about Barky being so reluctant to off a terrorist muzzie. Afterall, he did win a PEACE PRIZE!

    LOL!

  109. Ron

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:54 pm


    It is really amazing how people can forget their manners and revert back to their childhood, if they had one. Think of how our government is suppose to work. A coup detat is not the way it is to work. The government is not to give an execute order either. Paneta, Clinton, Clapper and Petraus are all wrong it their actions and should be brought up on trial, for murder of an unarmed person and then the desecration of a body and hiding evidence. DNA takes longer then a week to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was him. He should have been captured just like the rest in Gitmo and then tried in a military court. This government is all wrong and we need to get it back to the way our Founding Fathers set it up.

  110. ssongtan

    On May 4, 2011 at 12:56 pm


    I thought Valeri Jarret left at the end of last year to help kick start his second term campaign. That may be the disclaimer in this whole article.

  111. Reader

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:01 pm


    Not true ssongtan. Jarrett and obama are tied at the hip. She was just mouthing off in the news last week about refusing to give up any of Obummer’s college records. Thats the problem with so many of you Obamabots. You don’t even pay attention to what is going on around you. A ton of staff have left Obama. Jarrett is not one of them. But she sure as hell is nowhere to be seen while all of this Osama stuff is going on and that sure as hell is damn strange and seems to be another layer of proof for this insider stuff.

  112. Ron

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:02 pm


    It is really amazing how people can forget their manners and revert back to their childhood, if they had one. Think of how our government is suppose to work. A coup detant is not the way it is to work. The government is not to give an execute order either. Panetta, Clinton, Clapper and Gates are all wrong it their actions and should be brought up on trial, for murder of an unarmed person and then the desecration of a body and hiding evidence. DNA takes longer then a week to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was him. He should have been captured just like the rest in Gitmo prison and then tried in a military court. This government is all wrong and we need to get it back to the way our Founding Fathers set it up.

  113. Adam Porticalous

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:11 pm


    Just remember, in the end we are all fruit and Bin Laden is dead. Let’s focus on the next one and protect our country from reoccurrences of September 11th.

  114. Cindy

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:11 pm


    Do you all know the insider said LAST WEEK that there was a big military related story about to break???? LAST WEEK this was said. Nowhere else but by the insider. This stuff is more real than the crap you will read in the NY Times that is for sure. And if you are not part of UMs facebook army you are missing out. We got this news before any of you.

    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-obamas-west-wing-civil-war/

  115. joe dokes

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:23 pm


    this article rings true, period.

  116. MyFavorite

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:46 pm


    This actually matches up well with all of the cabinet shakeup news recently. This would explain Hilary’s sudden retirement announcement, and Panetta’s retirement, and so on.

    Of course, if true, the Clintons would have NO problem submarining Obama in 2012 with a tell-all book.

  117. MyFavorite

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:47 pm


    This actually matches up well with all of the cabinet shakeup news recently. This would explain Hilary\’s sudden retirement announcement, and Panetta\’s retirement, and so on.

    Of course, if true, the Clintons would have NO problem submarining Obama in 2012 with a tell-all book.

  118. John

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:47 pm


    I find this to be very plausible considering how Obama has handled (correct that) not handled other situations. I would like to see some additional sources back this claim before I believe it 100%. Gee sorry to dissapoint you Libs I am not a Republican. I can spot a looser and Obama is a looser

  119. Marine Dad

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:50 pm


    My first thought when I heard of the successful operation to take out UBL was, how did Obumble grow a backbone overnight. This man has not shown any leadership or guts since he was carried into the WH by the main stream media two years ago. And for the person who doesn’t know Valerie Jarrett, she pulls the decision strings for His Incompetence, the Doofus-in-Chief.

  120. Doc Freeman

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:55 pm


    Here is a short bio for Valerie Jarrett. No where does she have any experience with military operations, nor does BHO. So yes I can believe this story. All I can say is thank GOD for Leon Panetta. I would probably vote for Panetta for president in 2012 if he ran.
    B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978,
    Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of Michigan Law School
    Jarrett got her start in Chicago politics in 1987 working for Mayor Harold Washington[5] as Deputy Corporation Counsel for Finance and Development.
    CEO of The Habitat Company, a real estate development and management company which she joined in 1995. Jarrett was a member of the board of Chicago Stock Exchange (2000–2007, as Chairman, 2004–2007).
    Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago Medical Center,
    Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago
    Trustee of Chicago\’s Museum of Science and Industry
    Serves on the board of directors of USG Corporation, a Chicago based building materials corporation.
    Service as a director of Navigant Consulting, Inc. a Chicago-based global consulting group with governmental clients
    Serve on the board of Rreef American REIT II, a real estate investment trust based in San Francisco. The Chicago Stock Exchange, Inc.,

  121. Dorinda

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:57 pm


    MyFavorite, Can you provide a link to the news of Hillary’s sudden retirement announcement? I don’t believe that Panetta retired, but has been nominated for the SecDef position. Gates signaled his retirment ages ago and only now announced a date.

    If there is something going on serious enough for the Clinton’s to “submarine” BO, it would not be in a book, but you’d see it in real life.

  122. DG

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:57 pm


    OMG – the amount of totally inaccurate information on here is crazy. Thank goodness for this non-existent ‘insider’ for spilling the beans.

    It’s a Sunday afternoon people – do you want the president wearing a suit 24/7?

    Ughhh – I weep for my country sometimes when I read posts and responses like many of these.

  123. Amy

    On May 4, 2011 at 1:58 pm


    Of course Obama did not give the order because it is the Military who does the operation. Of course Obama would not because he is involved with everything going on over their, that is his blood, of course he was not going to give the order.
    I am glad Penetta gave the order to KILL THAT PIECE OF TRASH!

  124. cnnlies

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:03 pm


    I think the burn bag was, in fact, a vomit bag… just in case Obamabrat couldn’t handle the live feed.

  125. gladius

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:13 pm


    Jarrett has Obama’s ear and if ,I believe, the truth ever gets out I think the American people would find out that she has more power then we think.. At one point Obama had 4 advisors, Jarrett, Axelrod,Rahm and the Press Sec, Robert something. Jarrett was mostly into political things and as time went by she won. She has her own problems as she is a slum landloard back in that cess pool they all call home.

  126. BigTex

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:28 pm


    Look carefully at the serious but calm look on everyone’s face in the picture. Make that everyone’s face except for the president’s. The look on his face is bewilderment and pure terror.

  127. richard40

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:37 pm


    Not sure if this account is all true, but it does fit with what I already know about Obama, and also Valery Jarrett. The most startling thing about this operation was that Obama would act with such resolution and boldness, since he never had on any previous occasion. Now we find out that Obama may have been his typical waffling self, and was pushed into the action by wiser heads.

    If this account is true, it eases my mind about Panetta replacing Gates as secdef. Like Gates, he appears to have what it takes to stand up to Obamas idiocy, and do what is right.

    It would also be a great benefit if Valery Jarret got pushed out of the administration as a result of this. She is one of those appaling combinations of rigid leftist idealogy, combined with political calculation taking precedence over what is right.

    Past presidents haven’t taken kindly to leaks like this one. I wonder what Obama thinks about it.

  128. richard40

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:38 pm


    Not sure if this account is all true, but it does fit with what I already know about Obama, and also Valery Jarrett. The most startling thing about this operation was that Obama would act with such resolution and boldness, since he never had on any previous occasion. Now we find out that Obama may have been his typical waffling self, and was pushed into the action by wiser heads.

    If this account is true, it eases my mind about Panetta replacing Gates as secdef. Like Gates, he appears to have what it takes to stand up to Obamas idiocy, and do what is right.

    It would also be a great benefit if Valery Jarret got pushed out of the administration as a result of this. She is one of those appaling combinations of rigid leftist idealogy, combined with political calculation taking precedence over what is right.

    Past presidents haven\’t taken kindly to leaks like this one. I wonder what Obama thinks about it.

  129. Will

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:42 pm


    LOL…You guys are seriously delusional–really, seek help….

    Let’s face facts. Your boy took eight years, upwards of a $1T, and nearly 10, 000 dead Americans…not to mention tens of thousands of severely wounded, and hundreds of thousands of Afghans and Iraqis we have no way of connecting to any possible connection to 9/11, WMD, the boogie man, or the Boys From Brazil.

    Your boy screwed up. Could have happened to everyone.

    OTOH, to continue to deny the reality, is well, delusional.

    Seek help. Please.

  130. M Robs

    On May 4, 2011 at 2:47 pm


    Why was Obumble on the golf course on such a momentus occassion? This story does ring true – let’s face it all the info that has been coming out of the WH is proving to be false (as usual). The official WH story does not hold up as is evidenced simply by following his water carrying media – even they don’t know what to do to spin this story to Obumbles benefit and Lord knows they are trying. As for all the people that think Obumble got a bump in the polls from this – look at today’s numbers Obumble’s numbers are going back down.

  131. none

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:03 pm


    You people are a bunch of racist lunatics.

  132. none

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:04 pm


    You people are a bunch of racist lunatics.

  133. none none

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:05 pm


    You people are a bunch of racist lunatics.

  134. Mary Lou Bruner

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:06 pm


    Government officials should see how the DNA sample collected from Osama’s body compares to the DNA of Obama. Has anyone noticed a resemblance in the two? The media has started spelling Osama’s name with a U. USAma is the new name the media has given him.

  135. Elizabeth

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:11 pm


    Gee, we\’ve got Pfc. Manning penned up and Assange on the run for the Wikileaks documents outted on the Internet. But this brave, BRAVE soul goes on the record, ANONYMOUSLY. . .translated BALL-LESS, with statements that are full of what should be classified in all regards, assuming said claims are true. If he/she is stating facts, may they find out who you are and treat you accordingly as what you\’ve done is treasonous.and WILL put lives at risk in even greater numbers. Don\’t you just LOVE selective, cherry-picking, accusatory, non-committal waffling on the issue of what constitutes treason? The GOPers will LOVE THIS piece of treasonous garbage, assuming it\’s true or NOT assuming it\’s true, for when have GOPers EVER cared about the truth or facts for that matter? Listen! You can hear them as they praise the actions of this \”insider\” no matter the potential consequences while, out of other side of their forked tongues, calling for Manning\’s court marshall and, likely, lifetime imprisonment and screaming: \”Bring me the head of Assange!\” Anyone intentionally outting intricate affairs leading up to the assasination of Osama bin Laden should be arrested and put in a cell right next to Pfc. Manning. Fair and balanced is, well, fair and balanced, right? Good LORD! One anonymous article that feeds their disdain for President Obama and anyone not subscribing to their political ideology, and the GOPers morph into rabid dogs. Wait! No morphing necessary, just more frothing at the mouth. Why am I NOT suprised?

  136. Ben

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:27 pm


    Yeah right. It’s game over guys. Obama got his second term.

  137. Bob Kirby

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:32 pm


    This unsourced report is utter nonsense.

    Bot now I understand why I so regret skipping 10th grade Civics class – the day Mr. Nichols explained the mechanism by which _staff_ are able to overrule the commander in chief.

    By the way: sources tell ME that legions of Ant People are on their way from Mars to Earth to invade. By common rules of journalism, you tell mw why what I just asserted should carry any less “authority” than your ridiculous article.

  138. cjsmcsa

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:33 pm


    Well…..if this is true and accurate, there is hope for America yet! Reminds me of a TV show…..Kukla, Fran and..and…and “O” something.

  139. Sandra

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm


    Why is Obama in golf clothes in that photo of the situation room? Was he really pulled off the golf course as the mission was going down because that picture sure makes it seem like it. Yikes.

  140. PersonWithABrain

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:41 pm


    Do NONE of you have research skills?
    An insider?
    A President CAN NOT be over-ruled.

    So what you are claiming is that these “military” people that overruled the President committed sedition and should be punished by death as defined by the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    894. ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION
    (a) Any person subject to this chapter who–
    (1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
    (2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
    (3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
    (b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-

    Do you all believe ANYTHING blindly just because you hate the President?

  141. hiway280z

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:48 pm


    Who is in that room that is blacked out on the right side near Clinton. No Obama didn’t look to happy. Thank God someone is still in the White House who can by pass the community organizer while he plays golf.

  142. Barbie

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:49 pm


    Who is in that room that is blacked out on the right side near Clinton. No Obama didn\’t look to happy. Thank God someone is still in the White House who can by pass the community organizer while he plays golf.

  143. John Q.

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:49 pm


    For the past year, the US has been knocking off people in Pakistan with Predator drone strikes and suddenly, Valerie Jarrett is worried about civilian casuistic? That is the proof of what BS this is. A complete fabrication of this person’s fantasy mind.

  144. T

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:56 pm


    The author should have left at least a few racial stereotypes out to make it more believable. As it is, it reads like a conservative wet dream.

  145. Dipshits

    On May 4, 2011 at 3:56 pm


    Barbie, you stupid fuckwad. You can’t over rule the president. You are fucking stupid, get out of my fucking country

  146. B

    On May 4, 2011 at 4:29 pm


    There are five men in the room with unbuttoned shirts. Were they all golfing together? If you wear a golf shirt, is that proof that you’re golfing. I have some golf shirts, but I don’t think I ever golf. Maybe I do, and just don’t know about it.

  147. paul george

    On May 4, 2011 at 4:32 pm


    I do not like Valerie Jarrett. She is the one that brought in Van Jones.
    It is always about politics with these people.

  148. Donald Trump

    On May 4, 2011 at 4:48 pm


    this is just so-so as a comedy piece.

  149. Jim

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:00 pm


    As a couple of previous writers have pointed out, this kind of “journalism” can’t be verified or validated objectively.

    My gut reaction after reading the lengthy, lengthy “responses” from the un-named insider, was that it reads a great deal like much of what I write, myself, before I get around to editing it.

    I find a great deal to criticize about President Obama. My personal opinion is that history may ultimately rank him with the likes of Filmore and Carter. (The second of these whom I deeply admire as a human being. But not as a president.) We are facing serious national crises that demand thoughtful debate. Unfortunately, this kind of “journalism” does not contribute to that in the least.

  150. ObamaHesitated

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:08 pm


    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/05/01/obama-golfs-weekend-row/

    The president left the White House to play golf at 9:42 am, arriving at the Andrews Air Force Base course about 25 minutes later, according to the press pool report. He then ended his game after nine holes at 1:39 pm and made it back to the White House at 2:04 pm, about two hours before the attack on Bin Laden appears to have occurred.

    According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, the attack on Bin Laden’s compound north of Islamabad seems to have happened at about 1:10 am local time, which would be 4:10 pm Washington time.

  151. Gunny

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm


    Well now look at that. Obama was golfing. He was out on the course right before the operation went down. That explailns the photo, and why he is sitting in the corner. He was the last person in the damn room! You Obama loving saps have been proven wrong yet again. And when the insider said they dragged Obama’s ass off the golf course and back to the White House it looks like they were 1000% correct. Thanks for the link ObamaHesitated. Tip of the hat to you.

  152. Pat

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm


    Wow. You really push a pile of crap here. Goes against what the Navy Seal Commander says. But never ever let truth stop you all. Pretty funny and very sad. So all those folks kept this quiet and only your writer had this leaked information. Who do you really think believe this? The 40% that will always vote against the middle class and vote for a narrow view of the world. Hate permeates your words. God help you all.

  153. PersonWithABrain

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:35 pm


    Do NONE of you have research skills?
    A President CAN NOT be over-ruled.

    So what you are claiming is that these “military” people that overruled the President committed sedition and should be punished by death as defined by the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    894. ART. 94. MUTINY OR SEDITION
    (a) Any person subject to this chapter who–
    (1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
    (2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
    (3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
    (b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-

  154. Kyle Adams

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:38 pm


    I believe that Obama had no say in it. The fact that he didnt make a decision when asked a thousand times is scary to me. As the commander in chief, its time to act and not care what the critics saw. SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT BUSH, HE DID WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT. AND HE STOOD BEHIND IT. WHy do you libs keep bringing up my president who had balls and a frickin brain. I just dont think its logical to be a liberal. i dont understand what you idiots see. Obama is a tool and his administration runs our country. he just uses the red pen and grades the papers. Show the damn dead picture of Bin Laden. The radicalls will just have to hate us as much as they do now. PLease god, deliver us a REAL president who makes decisions on his own and TAKES advice as ADVICE> i give no credit where its not due.
    Long Live United states of America- THE REPUBLIC THAT WAS INTENTED BY MY FOREFATHERS AND MY LONG LONG RELATIVE, MR President John Adams.

  155. NURREDIN

    On May 4, 2011 at 5:42 pm


    As usual,no names to corroborate the accusations,just an “unnamed White House insider”.Did one of the “Birthers” write this story? Maybe we can get Donald trump to investigate. Once again, the Black Guy didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger! Until we get a name of the accuser, it’s all B.S.

  156. Spimona

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:07 pm


    Panetta took the earlier go ahead from OBama to proceed with the attack despite Obama starting to get cold feet again. And you can bet Panetta has that first ok from Obama on record so he is legally good to go. Guy is way smarter than Obummer could hope to be. And love the link proving Obama was golfing the morning of the attack. That’s why the photo shows him sitting there like a dumb kid in golf clothes in the corner of the room. All the proof is pointing to his story being true. Sorry Obama lovers, your boy just plain sucks at being president.

  157. noosama

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:09 pm


    Photos of the dead released. But no photo of Osama Bin Laden. WTF????????? Was he even in that house?????

  158. GarandFan

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:24 pm


    Sounds just like Barry. Still voting PRESENT! And if he can’t do that, “study” the issue until it either resolves itself or it goes away. Barring that, initiate an “investigation” or “form a commission”.

    And Jarrett was doing what Jarrett does best (besides kissing the ass of “The Most Intelligent Person in the World”. – protecting him from making any decisions BEFORE it’s determined who will be the fall guy if something doesn’t work out.

  159. Lyn K

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:48 pm


    My sis who owns a restaurant in New Mexico was telling me that some CIA came in for dinner the night after the Bin Ladens death announcment and they were talking about Obama not knowing until the very end. She was going to give me a link to some info but it was gone so we just talked about what they had said which was pretty much this story here. I found it interesting but went on with other things in my life. Now this story comes along and this is excatly what she had told me that these folks had said. This is pretty crazy but makes sense. Obama would not know how to fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Thnak God Hilary has some balls.

  160. Jess

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:56 pm


    True or false: President Obama was playing on the golf course an hour or two before the mission was to have been going on. The answer to that is TRUE. There is a link right above here that takes you to that fact. Then we have the photo in this story showing the president still in his golf clothes and sitting in a corner during the action. Those facts alone make this insider stuff at least worthy of some consideration, and if you add the fact that the Obama White House has changed their own version of the mission about five times now, that adds even more believability to this story. Obama is a sinking ship and he’s taking our country with him.

  161. KEM

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:57 pm


    thanks God Hillary is in the administration to take the risks and made decisions while the community organizer is terrified to do so.Here’s an Independent for Hillary 2012!

  162. TheFabulousStain

    On May 4, 2011 at 6:58 pm


    So you’re accusing Panetta and others of treason? I certainly hope you have some proof to back this up, otherwise you’re sending a man who just helped do a great thing for this country to his death.

  163. Reader

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:00 pm


    Hey you all there is a video up of Leon Panetta hinting that Obama missed out on a lot of the actual action of the mission and that it was Panetta and not OBama who was in charge of the mission. Basically supports a lot of what this insider said days ago, and it s coming right from Leon Panetta himself!!!!! will try and get a link and bring it here. It is amazing!!!!!

  164. The Marine

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:04 pm


    This is the Obama we in the military all know too well. Nice to see the info get out, at least in this small way. You, my liberal comrades, have put in place a real turd of a lacky boy President. Sure he can read a teleprompter, but when it comes nut cut’n time, send him to the links and let the big kids handle things. Bring him back in time to take credit for successes. Remember the incident with the pirates? He sat on his ass then too. Are you starting to see how this works?

  165. Paul O Mahony

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:14 pm


    “This would explain the seating placement in the Situation room photo. Obama off to the side not looking at all in control in a 3 button white golf shirt, looks like a shirt I would wear to go golfing

    Actually that would explain the genesis of this story. Take a picture that the whole world recognizes by now. Hmm! The president looks somewhat casual and flustered.
    Fellas, I think we got us here some scope for a smear campaign!
    Ok, so lets concoct a story that the president has been golfing, idle while others are making decisions.
    No, hold on a second! Thats not enough, we need something more juicy. Yes, we want to portray him as a ditherer. After all thats what we’ve been doing all along and its been working great up til now. We can’t let the public see the president as a strong commander in chief. That would ruin everything. So lets make up this coup scenario…. lets drop in our token woman, who all too easily sways the president from resolute action. Yes, yes, thats perfect. The president is an effete ditherer. And the best thing of all, is he’s so embarassed by his emasculation, he’s not going to tell anybody. It all sounds so plausible doesn’t it…….

  166. R G ROBISON

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:36 pm


    thank god obana is saving all those dead people in Syria…….too bad they don’t have any oil

  167. ThisisDumb

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:37 pm


    OK, let’s for a second, suspend our common sense and take as fact that there was a white house “insider” this contemptuous of the administration allowed this close to the planning of such a highly classified operation. Let us also for a moment believe that someone with the writing and communication skills of a fourth grader was allowed this close to the planning….maybe it was an intern. That’s it, an intern. And if, because they are a just intern, they desire the truth to reach as many people as possible, why would they chose not to divulge this info to a “trustworthy” news outlet, let’s say FOX, but instead award the exclusive to a blog run by a hack, pseudo-journalist with an insignificant audience.

    If anyone has any answers would love to hear it.

    I don’t mind being called names but it is silly having conservatives call liberals sheep when you see them falling for this stuff.

  168. Jacey

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:46 pm


    You libtards make me laugh. President Peter Principle couldn’t find his posterior with both hands. The Boy Wonder has no job experience and no qualifications except how to read a teleprompter and he lies like a rug. The military loathes him, especially after Obozo’s allowing Lt. Col. Terry Lakin to go to Leavenworth over a seemingly innnocuous birth certificate. I say seemingly because the military is full of intelligence experts who know a fraud when they see one. The military is also upset with The Won because he allowed 3 Navy SEALS to face a courtmartial (though they were cleared). The CIA is resentful of him because he ordered an investigation of that as well. Well, guess what? It was the CIA and the military, especially the Navy SEALS, who brought down bin Laden based on evidence gleaned from interrogation practices put in place by the previous administration. Even Panetta concurs with this.

    Since Obamao’s Rules of Engagement include not shooting the enemy even if he enters a warehouse loaded with known arms and insists the military feed and nurse all captured enemy combatants and release them on the battlefield to kill our soldiers again, I don’t see him as anything other than someone who attaches his name to the good stuff after the fact and looks for scapegoats when the mission fails. He can’t make a decision because he’s got one foot in each camp waiting to see how the wind blows. It’s his entire MO. That is, unless he’s trying to stuff Soviet-style heathcare down our throats, tax us into oblivion, devalue the dollar, destroy small businesses and the middle class by discouraging free enterprise and entrepreneurship, and attempt to regulate the Internet in order to make certain that only propaganda flows freely. Then he’s a good little Cloward/Piven disciple. He destroys his opponents using Alinsky tactics because he doesn’t know how to fight fair and doesn’t like to lose. We’re becoming Zimbabwe of the West and Mugabe Jr. is living the good life at taxpayer expense while he “spreads the wealth around” especially to those who don’t work. It’s called shilling for votes.

  169. Been There, Done That

    On May 4, 2011 at 7:47 pm


    Been in military operational settings enough to read the layout and placement of the players, combined with the body language.

    If you don’t belive the article, just look at the picture and ask yourself…

    Who look in control here? And who looks like their visit is an afterthought?

  170. Rachel Blancas

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:03 pm


    I WAS WONDERING when Obama grew balls to make such a call and NOW i KNOW the “rest of the story.” This man is spineless, without guts and not willing to kill one of his fellowmen. What a low-life taking the credit, where it is not due him.

  171. ReadeR

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:24 pm


    Thank you, Ulsterman!

  172. ReadeR

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:29 pm


    @ The Marine:
    Great post!

  173. Sped

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:55 pm


    It is possible that this is true, but it is also possible this is all just a bunch of crap. The site is truly a right wing site.
    Now, if the hard left sites line CommieNewsNetwork or MSNBC where to bring it up, then it would be more believable. But hey, they do not even speak of the fact that Valerie Jarrett is from Iran.
    Interesting in it’s own facts.

    The good news is – OBL is dead!
    Does not really matter that the president did or did not do anything.

  174. george morrison

    On May 4, 2011 at 8:56 pm


    I reckon that this jarrett way far left wing woman is running the country now from reading this post as well as Glen Beck this explains a lot of things 1] you cannot expect a woman espically as far left as she is to ever do the right thing 2]this explains our terrible high gas prices isn’t her husband over the epa or interior dept3]just proves once again that O’take all the credit ovommitt cannot think for himself & I think that all america should know about obama sticking his head up this womans ass & not being able to think for himself this country is basically being run by a woman a communist at that

  175. Strider

    On May 4, 2011 at 9:18 pm


    What a bunch of pantywaste keyboard commandos on this site. I don’t know if you are more threatened by competence or by your own failings, but it is certain that most of you cowards have never fired a shot outside of Halo 2 and would not understand the concepts of duty and honor if they were tatooed on your mother’s breasts.

  176. Pat

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:17 pm


    My father was a very smart person who told me that no one could know everything, a smart person found people who knew what he didn’t, and listened to their advice. If our military people who know oceans more about military affairs than Obama, believed the time was right, then they did the right thing. God bless our military, they know what to do while their Commander in Chief is playing golf and dithering around trying to figure out what to do….and not listening to people who know more than he does…

  177. Jess

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:22 pm


    Just read a news report saying Obama wasn’t there for the start of the mission. He wasn’t even there! He didn;t see it! That explains the pic of him sitting in his golf clothes looking all pissed and lost. The White House Insider is becoming the Deepthroat of the Obama presidency. This stuff is amazing!!! ANd what is the deal with Penatta saying there will be a pic of a dead Osama and then Obama saying no pic all in the same day? The White House Insider called it. These two seem to be doing some kind of power play dance. Wonder who will win?

  178. RoxannaDanna

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:26 pm


    After reading the book Game Change, by 2 very pro-Obama writers, I believe there\’s some truth to this scenario about the bin Laden attack.
    Obama, in Game Change, deferred to Valerie for EVERY decision he made. It was as though she was his surrogate mother.
    This fits well with the image I already had.
    Good post!

  179. Egypt Steve

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:31 pm


    Insane in the Membrane
    Insane in the brain!
    Insane in the membrane,
    gone insane! got no brain!

    That has got to be the group song on this site.

    But seriously: How did Valerie Jarrett prevent President Bush from capturing OBL at Tora Bora? Does your source have any insight into those meetings?

    What a bunch of ridiculous fux.

  180. Ken A

    On May 4, 2011 at 10:44 pm


    Since Monday evening I was in total awe as to how this idiot Obama stumbled across the international terrorist Osama Bin Laden and finally had him killed. Now the truth comes out and we find out that Obama not only had nothing to do with the decision, he and his even more stupid advisor Valerie Jarrett tried to stop the attack which finally killed Osama Bin Laden. Kudo’s to all involved in the decision which obviously excludes our so called President. He could not make up his mind because it did not involve having a teleprompter so that he knew what to say and think. What a dimwit!

  181. Andrew Warhammer

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:28 pm


    It’s still horrible what happend no matter if they were doing it to us or vice versa.

  182. slowtojudge

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:39 pm


    When I first saw the photo, Obama had a strange look on his face and this explains it to my inquisitive mind. I thought that when I heard he had been pulled from the golf course, someone was making a bad joke. Apparently this explains that as well. Hmmm. Just thinking.

  183. SAYWHAT?

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:42 pm


    As if having to hear the media state that pResident Obummer made a ‘gutsy decision’ to finally get OBL, tomorrow we will be forced to see him prancing and desecrating Ground Zero.

    Great article, Ulsterman and thanks to the Insider for the info.

  184. Hollywood

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:50 pm


    Patriot76
    He was golfing! I know, as I am a golfer. I watched him.as you did, looking at the Seals going in. If you were watching closely, he was taking a BOO at his score card! It was readily apparent to me, he must have had a bad round, as he was using his Blackberry to help him total up his score. Next round I’m sure he will do better,just as long as incovenient things like bad linens capture???/death don’t intrude !

  185. RivieraParadiseMan

    On May 4, 2011 at 11:58 pm


    Wow, someone made a comment about the libs having little potty mouths and no intellect, no substance, no logic… And here it is in their own writing. Any questions?

    @Tasha on the “Burnbag”: And this means what? Who filled Obama’s obligatory trick-or-treat bag for him, elves? What’s in it, McDonald’s coupons? Mere presence of the bag does not dictate messianic evidence. Someone has to fill it for him and they actually get to choose what goes into it. You have proven nothing. They probably passed it around the room before they gave it to him from his golf game and tucked a few Valentines in it for him.

    You people have to think beyond what’s fed to you or you will never graduate from a real school of logic. Attending today’s universities with all their liberal profs will get you what? You’ll never get out of the box boys and girls. You read what they tell you to, think what they tell you to and say what they tell you to.

    All I hear on this blog are today’s puppets and useful idiots… and then I hear intelligent conservatives worried about their country, well thought out logic, evidence, facts, figures… Time to grow up boys and girls. Mommy and Daddy can’t hold your hand forever. Start trying coffee instead of Kool-Aide.

  186. loren lyo

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:07 am


    i grew up in appalachia and fortunately got out of there in time to not to succumb to the racism and ignorance that has so blind the writer and attached sycophants. but wait it isn\\\’t just ignorance. it is a mean-spirited energy that you have that allows you to say the things you do knowing full well they aren\\\’t true. i hope somewhere deep inside it troubles you to be so inherently dishonest, and this atheist prays that none of you breed to pass on your vile hate.

  187. Fen

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:53 am


    To the Obama supporters frothing personal insults and attempting to appeal to conformity – you only look more desperate.

    Keep screaming about racism. We’ll keep asking who’s really in charge of the Executive Branch.

  188. Jack Strong

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:58 am


    I read where Osama’s body was just 54 degrees when they did the DNA test on his remains. I read it on teh Internet so I am pretty sure it’s true.

    Right wing hooey is conservative without limit– rooting for profiteers as you struggle to make ends meet. True fans, spectators who think they are patriots; jingoists who don’t deserve liberty because they are too lazy and gullible to recognize it let alone defend it.

    Prohibition still does not work, and there you are paying taxes to bankrupt the nation with prisons and wasted police resources directed to the use of a weed that would grow on the moon while billionaires steel you children’s futures.

    What can be said about you that you don’t say for yourselves both in words and by what you don’t say?

    Fools.

  189. Bob Smith

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:26 am


    If you actually believe this BS please read this article:

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105040021

  190. Sam St. Croix

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:27 am


    The simple proof of the truth of this story is in Obama’s own words. He said in his speech that he “gave the order “TODAY” (on Sunday) to commence the mission.”

    If this was true, he would have skipped his golf outing and remained at the White House to follow and manage the events of a mission of this historic and critical importance.

    He lied on TV Sunday night in his address to the nation. He was out of the White House on the golf course, and out of the loop.

  191. mkked

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:44 am


    Some of you who are reflexively calling this story a lie should ask yourselves this question (answer honestly);

    If Obama knew this mission was taking place (He said he gave the order), why would he be on the golf course as “go” time neared ? This was a very, very important mission, both politically and in the matter of national security. Sending special ops into a sovereign nation to kill some of their citizens in their home is not a trivial matter. It is a big deal.

    It just does not make sense that Obama would be golfing instead of staying right on top of the preparations and updates on this very critical mission. No President would go golfing at such a time. Now, some will argue that Obama was just trying to act like nothing was going on, business as usual, etc. But, for heaven’s sake, who would have suspected there was anything going on ? Nobody, outside of a small group, kew. There was no need to “act like nothing is going on” because as far as anybody knew, nothing was going on.

    So, why wasn’t Obama at the WH at the time, if he knew ?

  192. mkked

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:57 am


    Bob Smith,

    I read it. It has nothing to do with anything except smearing the person known as Ulstermann. But Ulstermann did not write this article. He just posted it.

    There really is no rebuttal of anything written by the “insider”. It is a lot of ridculing of the premise, such as “how ridiculous” or “absurd”, but there is no point by point argument. There is nothing except the Media Matters specialty, which is the smear. They have not made any credible argument, but they still smear well.

    Also, selecting Media Matters as some sort of honest journalistic site is just pathetic. They are not journalists and they are not honest. In fact, there are few sites that are more dishonest. That you would link to them tells us an awful lot about you, and it is not good.

  193. Forthepublicgood

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:14 am


    Deep throat.

    When Trump jumped in the race I wondered if he is somehow behind this Ulstserman guy.

    If he is unaware of it he certainly hit all the buttons the insider said he would.

    Insider said the whitehouse was afraid of Trump… which I thought was really stupid at the time… then Bingo, they bow to the Donald and produce the long over due birthcertificate.

    Then they make Donald really mad at the dinner.

    Now this stuff is much more important than a birthcertificate. This is the type of stuff Oly North was yanked in front of Congress to explain during the Reagan administration.

    I wonder if Trump could once again get to the bottom of this and expose the truth about how this all went down.

    Obama must have loved the speech that gave him credit for the whole thing… it sounded so arrogant to take so much credit. But it makes complete sense if the speech was written as much to get him on board as it was to tell the story to the public.

    Insider sounded like they have more stuff to reveal. Is he still thinking Hillary will challange Obama, or is there another angle? Are the Democrats who are opposed to Obama opposed enough to support a Republican as President? Or are they willing to let Daley keep the President in check.

    Trusting that Valerie, the first Lady or Obama himself might not dump Daley as soon as he was re-elected is a big risk for the country.

    If the Democrat party does what it needs to do to get Obama out and then supports a moderate Republican, puts a stop to the far left hate mongering… I would be okay with covering up this whole embarrassment of the Obama Presidency and even put his stupid face on Mount Rushmore. It would be worth it to save the country from his policies, or Valerie’s policies.

    Let Obama become a mythic, heroic figure, as long as his true plans are part of the cover up, so someone in the future doesn’t use the legend as an excuse to implement his lunacy. Just get rid of him and fix the damage he has done.

  194. Amused

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:29 am


    This is a very interesting report and very believable. The big ZERObama has always been acknowledged as an indecisive liar. Check his congressional record. He never made a decision. He always voted present. Running for office, he promised this group one thing and another group something else. The amusing part was that he couldn’t deliver to either without stepping on the other. The simple minds that voted for him didn’t see how close the dots were to connect them. He’s relishing the glory now, but I can also see him maintaining his distance to chastize his staff if the mission had been unsuccessful. He just doesn’t have the class to accept failure like Ronald Reagan did when the recovery of people stranded in Iran went up in flames.
    And all you Bush bashers out there, Bill Clinton had his hands on bin Laden and let him go during his administration. The Democratics made mockery of Ollie North when he tried to warn them. It’s amusing watching them jump on the band wagon for credit now.
    The mission went down as it needed to except there needs to be more definitive proof that bin Laden was captured and his body is disposed of now. There seems to be a lot of cover up. I understand the necessity for discretion, but surely if they were following the operation as it went down there are pictures of bin Laden up to the point where he gets his brains blown out. Also if they held a Muslim service for him wrapped in a sheet why can’t that be released. Why, I know. The media! ! ! They have no discretion at all. They will show their uttermost ignorance just to exploit any issue as they are currently and did on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. The oil spill didn’t scare people off Florida’s beaches. The media did with their over zealous coverage and ignorant analysis of something they knew nothing about. It showed through their broadcasting. They have facilitated nearly killing the industry in the U.S.

  195. PUMAbydesign001

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:39 am


    Fascinating, convincing, great read.

  196. Renagle

    On May 5, 2011 at 5:56 am


    “Do you all believe ANYTHING blindly just because you hate the President?”

    @Person with a brain, those regulations only matter if they’re enforced. Do you really think that Barry would prosecute Panetta and Clinton and open himself up to deposition by their defense attorney’s if he enforced them? The biggest narcissist to ever occupy the White House? Not really using that “brain” of yours now are you? AND what you have listed is the UCMJ. MILITARY CODE OF JUSTICE. I don’t seem to recall Panetta OR Hillary being in the armed forces now either. Moron.

  197. Renagle

    On May 5, 2011 at 6:03 am


    Bob Smith

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:26 am

    If you actually believe this BS please read this article:

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105040021

    Media Matters is well known Democrat/Obama propaganda tool. Only a fool would take anything at that site seriously.

  198. RandyMan

    On May 5, 2011 at 6:52 am


    Islamabama says “I’m SO CONFUSED!!!!” LOL

  199. rcNkc

    On May 5, 2011 at 7:29 am


    Bob Dobolina Wrote:
    On May 3, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    You’re a liar. We’ve seen the photo in the situation room. This unsourced garbage is clearly ridiculous.

    ———————————–
    Dobo: , i saw the photo too. Speaks volumes – 0b0 looks like
    the “boy at the back of the bus” ! A community organizer
    who is in – way over his head.

  200. karin zoanelli

    On May 5, 2011 at 7:47 am


    the assessment of the WH situation is absolutely correct – little has been said publicly, because any kind of criticism of Obama is not allowed – possibly mrs. Jarretts order.
    anybody who has any sense has seen through the charade of this man, he has absolutely NO experience in any kind of matter except selling himself.
    leading America? where to?
    those of you who doubt the veracity of the report know nothing about the non-functioning of the WH in just about any instance.
    mercifully – there are clear heads around to pick up where obama leaves off

  201. nickel

    On May 5, 2011 at 7:57 am


    I googled this writers screen name and all that came up was some person name Stanley Allen McChrystal . Do any of you recognize the name? Something about he read it in a draft document for the June addition of ROLLING STONE.

  202. jadez

    On May 5, 2011 at 7:59 am


    yea sure you got the story no one else did.

    GIVE ME A BREAK!

  203. nickel

    On May 5, 2011 at 7:59 am


    I googled this writer’s screen name and all that came up was some person named Stanley Allen McChrystal. Do any of your recognize the name? Somethign about he read it in a draft document for the June addition of ROLLING STONE.

  204. richmaine

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:10 am


    Shame on Americans for putting a fool in the White House. Now They have to live with it for his term. Historically, military actions hardly echo the administrations. Most politicians would run and hide from any threat.

    People have turned away from the One true God…Our Lord Jesus Christ & that’s why Obama is in Office…a reperesentative of the Ungodly…ironic that he is ‘in charge at the time a fellow believer in a false faith is killed. OBL is one man. He represented an anti Christian belief that is growing stronger.
    Read the book of Revelations in the BIBLE to know the final outcome!

  205. M.J. CARPENTER

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:25 am


    ONCE AGAIN WHEN ITS TIME TO STANDUP FOR AMERICA THE PRESIDENT COWS DOWN ON THE GOLF COARSE AND REFUSES TO GIVE PERMISSION AGAIST HIS MUSLIM BROTHERS ….IS THAT STRANGE OR WHAT …..IS HE AMERICAN OR WHAT……DOES HE LOVE THIS COUNTRY OR WHAT ………AND WHY SHOULD POLITICAL CONCERNS EVEN ENTER INTO THIS DECISION..

  206. Mountain Jack

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:53 am


    What did George Bush do to catch bin Laden? In 2005, he DISBANDED the CIA unit organized to capture bin Laden. Bush wasn’t interested in catching bin Laden. Originally it was scheduled for March, but Obama delayed it. Why? Because it was a bombing mission that would have left little. Obama wanted the world to have a proof of death, so HE was responsible for the change in strategy, i.e., to go with a Special Ops mission using Navy Seals.

    Before the mission was to begin, Obama asked if they had a backup plan in the event one went down? They had not so they added backup helicopters and, what do you know, one DID GO DOWN. The backup helicopter got them out of there. The whole mission took 40 minutes. It was a PRECISION OPERATION and our Commander-in-Chief OBAMA, Leon Panetta, and the US Navy Seals deserve tremendous credit.

  207. Paul

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:59 am


    Hopefully none of this is true. Even with my extreme dislike for this President, the usurpation of his authority is very troubling. My hope is that Panetta et al were very forceful in their support of the operation and ultimately the decision to act was Obama’s. Our country is otherwise in deep trouble the next few years.

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  209. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:26 am


    the world is about to learn EVERY part of 9-11 is a lie

  210. Leroy

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:32 am


    Praise Obama

    He’s the man. He’s got the system behind him. He is the modern day Goliath, he can fake his birth, fake his education, kill a corpse, sign his name to book someone else wrote, and do other miracles such as promise his own people a place in his world, but give us nothing. He conned the white folk like no one else before. They are so gullible.

    Where is little David? Goliath awaits you.

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    On May 5, 2011 at 9:44 am


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  212. CC Ryder

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:52 am


    Given what is known about Obama’s character this is very believable.

  213. Jimmy

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:03 am


    The White House really has some top notch fiction writers/damage control Czars. What an absolute romp through the cow pasture in bare feet. The depths this whole gang of inbred half breed wanna be play actors will go has no boundaries. What a shameful display of no-class con games. I’m disgusted. What’s worse is all you empty headed mouth breathers buying into any of this pure unadulterated freaking tripe!

  214. Barbara

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:29 am


    First timer on this site. Why all the filthy language. This is discussion right. Instead of taking sides on the political front ” research” and let this site know. ,

  215. smithdblue

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:32 am


    Liberals go bonkers when the truth starts coming out, and it’s hilarious! In a “conversation” with Libtards, after presenting tangible evidence usually one is assaulted with juvenile name-calling and other mindless dribble devoid of any facts. I can only assume it’s designed to refute the truth?!

    These tongue chewers should save their breath, they may need it to blow up their dates some afternoon…whilst dreaming of moving out of their parents homes.

  216. CC Ryder

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:54 am


    It must be very painful to realize that a sleazeball like Panetta actually has more character than your annointed messiah.

  217. figureditout

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:54 am


    BILL CLINTON IS THE INSIDER. THIS IS A CLINTON TAKEOVER OF POWER. PANETTA IS A CLINTONITE. DALEY IS A CLINTONITE. I REPEAT BILL CLINTON IS THE INSIDER. HE MIGHT ALSO BE ULSTERMAN.

  218. HelpfulJones

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:59 am


    Totally plausible; Ultimately unprovable. Besides, if true, I see nothing objectionable. Obama is not the tactician. Obama is the strategic *authority*. He delegates operational matters. Once that was all sorted, Obama owns the results. If any criticism is warranted, it is that Obama comes out of this paying more heed to Jarret’s political advice, rather than his Mil/Intel strategic/tactical advisers. However, we should all be used to Obama’s naivety, lack of leadership experience and penchant for “politics over country”. Anyone acting surprised or in a huff is being intellectually dishonest. Those on the left slinging insults rather than disputing specific points are no better. As for me? I’m looking at a glass of water that is twice as big as it needs to be.

  219. hp

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:19 am


    Why do you and others continue to use this absolutely bogus lie of a photo?

    Since as we all know by now; THERE WAS NO FIRE FIGHT, just what is it these carnival carnies are watching?

    Torture movies from rendition secret prisons?
    Their banker friends swimming in pools of money?

    Why do you support criminals and their crimes by blatantly showing propaganda of the most insulting kind?

    I think I know why..

  220. inmate

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:23 am


    I was shocked ot hear the message. Obama went up several points in my book after he made it.
    If this is true, it should be exposed. Clinton or someone should come forward. If so it would help her greatly and hurt Obama greatly. Hearing his choice to pull out before the election bothered me.
    The act of Osama killed helped restore this.
    If the nation finds this out, it will doom him in 2012.

  221. RocketSurgeon

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:24 am


    The depth and breadth of some of the comments here reinforces my belief that the Founders were right in forming a Republic, in that they well knew how democracies eventually rot from within. They just didn’t know that some of the putrescence would have keyboards.

  222. RocketSurgeon

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:25 am


    The depth and breadth of some of the comments here reinforces my belief that the Founders were right in forming a Republic, in that they well knew how democracies eventually rot from within. They just didn\’t know that some of the putrescence would have keyboards.

  223. Bubba the Brave

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:28 am


    This is how they make their dummy theatre look real to the rubes: embellish it with secondary details and contradictory accounts that keep people arguing which version of a complete fabrication is the true one. I’ll take Lie #1 with a side of diversionary nonsense.

  224. Randy Gibreal

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:56 am


    Obama is a COWARD and a liar.

  225. B

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:14 pm


    Gunny– you’re right. Obama was golfing– and stopped golfing in time to arrive at the White House a full two hours before the raid started. Which is *the same thing* as being dragged back right before the raid, in a “not at all” kind of way.

  226. a

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:24 pm


    Kyle Adams– your long ago relative John Adams was not a douche. You are.

  227. Bruja

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:25 pm


    Come on. This is a soap opera story as far as I’m concerned, without any names named in this account.

  228. ANTI-CON

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:34 pm


    I guess for every IDIOT WANT TO BE wishing he / she was really informed about matters of State and or Special Military Ops there is the internet were they can MISINFORM,SPIN and just PRINT ANYTHING that they can DREAM UP based on so called ANONYMOUS SOURCES which “WE” should just believe is FACT because AUTHOR is so trustworthy with NO PERSONAL AGENDA in mind to meet,…… Right ????

    FYI: SPIN = SEWAGE !

  229. Judy Kaelin

    On May 5, 2011 at 12:40 pm


    Outstanding commentary – Hillary Clinton is smarter than a fox, not my choice for President, I actually don’t care for her, however, I do recognize that she is one tough gal. She is just what we need in this country right now!

  230. Spartacus

    On May 5, 2011 at 1:13 pm


    This is a great lesson in human behavior.
    If you start adding specific and emotional detail to a lie people automatically buy into it.
    They’ve done well past the fact that Bin Laden died in 2001, and have provided more detail on the fairytale to get people to go along.

    A PEOPLE DESERVE ANY REGIME THEY ENDURE.

    Children could see the lies here but adults miss it altogether.

    Think about this…
    How many times has the government lied to the people?
    More times than we remember, but they are telling the truth now.
    No body, no ferensic evidence, just their word.
    Does that sound right?

  231. Ronnie Pudding

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm


    Believe the lies and the cover up lies if you want, sheeple. Keep swallowing the disinformation and the dis-disinformation that the MSM/UN Imperium for Total Emergency (UNITE) and their sock puppet propaganda “alt blogs” throw your way. There was no mission and there was no body because there was no Bin Laden. Ever! He was a construct of CIA/UNITE joint operation, just like 9/11. Played by an actor who wasn’t even Arab. The “Bin Laden” you know from the pictures and videos retired to Beverly Hills with enough money to live in luxury for the rest of his life. This is all part of the “30 Year Plan” of the The Topeka Doctrine as signed into order by the Kissinger/Joe Kennedy/Castro triumvirate (UNITE power council). The NWo is not a rumor, it is here NOW, and the end game is the return of Xenu. His war dirigibles have been spotted by Hubble already (en route from the inter-dimensional wormhole that is Cygnus X1). The nuts are threading onto the bolts. Repent! Listen to Slayer!

  232. U NO HOO

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:14 pm


    When are we going to see the original long form death certificate?

  233. noel

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:19 pm


    But after two years of Presidency, we already have a feel on how Pres Obama makes decisions. He has a very high tendency to dither. I know it will be difficult for his minions to accept it.

    Moreover, the bloggers and “Journolists” plus manufactured group outside the White House on the night of the announcement is also a standard operating procedure of his political operatives.

  234. Kenny

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm


    Looks like they let a stray high school student into the Situation Room–that would be the Obummer. Fortunately, the adults took charge and put the Obummer in his place. He\’s obviously pissed off about having his golf game interrupted. This piece of slime will now trumpet his role in killing Osama for maximum political impact. Problem is, the American people now see straight through this incompetent political panderer who has the voice of gravitas and the head of emptiness.

    Did we expect leadership from a guy who would have trouble deciding how many Slim Jims to order for the 7/11?

    Oh, the irony: Osama bin Laden done in by Obama bin Lyin.

  235. 1lumpor2

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm


    The helilocopter used in the mission was a secret stealth version of the MH-60 Black Hawk. Seen for the 1st time in this mission. The Blackhawk has a top speed of 183mph withouth all the stealth stuff added to it. They first took Osamas’ body back to a base in Afganistan Most likely Kandahar where the mission started. Kandahar is 470 miles from Abbottabad. That’s just city limit to city limit. So the flight time was ATLEAST 2.5 hours. Obama was on the golf course when the Helicopters took off.

    BOOYAH!!!

  236. 1lumpor2

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:29 pm


    The helilocopter used in the mission was a secret stealth version of the MH-60 Black Hawk. Seen for the 1st time in this mission. The Blackhawk has a top speed of 183mph withouth all the stealth stuff added to it. They first took Osamas\’ body back to a base in Afganistan Most likely Kandahar where the mission started. Kandahar is 470 miles from Abbottabad. That\’s just city limit to city limit. So the flight time was ATLEAST 2.5 hours. Obama was on the golf course when the Helicopters took off.

    BOOYAH!!!

  237. MSGran

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm


    There seem to be quite a few trolls running around on this blog, don’t there?

  238. Jacki Cook

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:39 pm


    Obama, dragged kicking and screaming, to do the job he was elected to do, once again. Valerie Jarrett needs to be ousted and this story needs to see the light of day all over the world. “Commander in Chief”??? Are you kidding?? He’s the classic lily-livered liberal who can’t make a decision. Hooray for Panetta on this one. Our majestic Navy Seals better not take a rap for any wrong-doing. They performed flawlessly and deserve our praise, and gratitude. The media, if they do not pick up this story, need to be exposed. FOX better get on this asap. Obama and Jarrett have the balls to show up at Ground Zero after the way they behaved? Shameless. Criminal. Let’s all expose them. Pass this story NOW!

  239. David

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:45 pm


    Comments from the liberals in this “discussion” simply pinpoint their position, on life and politics.
    Stating that “all republicans deserve to go to hell” shows the pathetic misunderstanding and obliviousness to the truth… all in one sentence. Conservatives, thank you very much, are true followers of the words of our Lord and Savior through His and our Father God. Understanding faith in Christ, grace from God, the gift of the Holy Spirit and the sovereignty of God the way it professed, not our works, is what get us to eternal peace with Him, is lost with you all.
    Stating “we deserve to go to hell” simply proves the ignorance of every other important issue facing this country.
    I pray you all see the grace that is blessed to us all, and smarten the hell up before we ALL get blown off the face of the earth because of your ignorance to the ONE thing keeping us here…
    GOD!

  240. Ray

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:52 pm


    Regarding the raid that got Osama, so far the White House has told us:

    1) There was a firefight.

    2) There was no firefight.

    3) Bin Laden was “resisting.”

    4) Bin Laden wasn’t armed. (Makes the concept of “resisting” interesting.)

    [4.a) And the newest one: the SEALS thought bin Laden was reaching for a weapon.]

    5) He used his wife as a shield.

    6) His wife was killed too.

    7) He didn’t use his wife as a shield. She ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she’s fine.

    8 ) Some other woman — the maid? — was used as a shield. By somebody. Downstairs.

    9) That other woman — downstairs — was killed.

    10) Maybe not. She was killed unless she wasn’t — and who was she, anyway?

    11) Bin Laden’s son was killed.

    12) Unless it was some other guy.

    13) Bin Laden’s daughter saw him get killed. She’s undoubtedly traumatized, poor dear.

    14) They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with the helicopter, which was:

    A) It had mechanical trouble
    B) It did a hard landing
    C) It crashed
    D) It clipped a wall with a tail rotor, effectively a crash

    15.) They were never going to try to capture him; it was always a kill mission.

    16.) No, it wasn’t.

    17) The chopper blew up.

    18) The SEALs blew it up.

    19.) Panetta said yesterday the world needed proof and the photo would be released.

    20.) Obama said today in an interview he taped with Steve Kroft for “60 Minutes” to be broadcast Sunday that it won’t be released. It’s too gruesome, would offend Muslim sensibilities (something he worries about a lot — I personally do not give a warm fart on a wet Wednesday about Muslim sensibilities), and how would Americans feel if Muslims released pictures of dead Americans?

    21.) Kroft — who’s not a total idiot — pointed out that ever since “Black Hawk Down” days, Muslims have been doing precisely that, filming American bodies being dragged through the streets, filming Daniel Pearl’s head being cut off, filming any and everything.

    22) Obama gets pissed at CBS, the tape gets cleaned up, that question disappears. (Inside info.)

    23.) We got a “treasure trove” of stuff from hard drives, etc.

    24.) There were no phone lines, and no internet access at the “mansion,” they didn’t even have TV — what “treasure trove?”

    25.) There is obviously in the pictures of the place a large satellite dish. I guess they used it for making salads.

    26.) And now, just today: apparently the idea was to capture him, but only if he was naked. There was a suspicion he might be wearing a suicide bomber type explosive vest, or belt. So if he’s not naked and you can’t see if he has a vest on or not – shoot him.

    The idiot White House Spokesman, Carney — they actually managed to find someone who makes Gibbs look good — is currently twisting himself into knots trying to explain why the photograph that the whole world was expecting isn’t going to be released. (Obviously the thing to do is get Trump on the case, he’ll force Obama to release it.)

    The military did great, the administration — or whatever that bunch is, kind of like “The Little Rascals” — have managed to turn it into spaghetti. The story has changed so many times in the course of a mere three days it’s a joke — the world would be better off if Panetta had left the nitwit on the golf course.

  241. Pete

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:52 pm


    This sounds very believable. The timeline of events are all very specific, too specific to be made up. And it wouldn’t surprise me at all if true given the weak performance of Obama as POTUS.

  242. commonsense

    On May 5, 2011 at 2:54 pm


    Without coaching, teleprompters, scripts, and prodding… Obama has repeatedly shown and proven that he is incompetent, inexperienced, and unqualified for this job. Even Hillary knew this and noted it repeatedly in the primaries.
    It’s truly a charlatan puppet presidency.

  243. commonsense

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:04 pm


    TO THOSE THAT DENY THIS PIC IS FROM THE SITUATION ROOM AS THE EVENTS UNFOLDED IN THE RAID ON BIN LADEN’S COMPOUND..
    It’s one of the pics the WH has released to the press.

    http://mashable.com/2011/05/02/situation-room-pics/

  244. Ronnie Pudding

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:05 pm


    What hilarious is that you believe the “perceived” weakness. That’s what he’s shown you! The illusion of fallibility, just like George W. Know this: “Barack Obama” is more intelligent than almost any “person” walking the earth. Everything you’re seeing is a manufactured illusion of “humanity.” You probably even think he’s human! Interviews with a UNITE former geneticist back in 2005 (before he was prez) talked about how alien DNA was being manipulated to create these “super leaders” and indicated that BO was the fabled Mark VI. It’s all in the Topeka Doctrine, dummies! Look it up.

  245. Adam Evenson

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:13 pm


    This is all such hooey. Anybody that believes these theatrics not to be contrived deserves this government.

    Of course, this “errant” comment will be rejected, right?

  246. commonsense

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:34 pm


    I’m still waiting on info on how and where the DNA testing took place to confirm bin Laden’s identity. The fastest method possible takes 2 hours but there are very few places that carry the automated equipment to perform the test this way.

  247. Brenda

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:51 pm


    @Ray- Thank You. Out of all this nonsense, You said it all.

  248. dagny

    On May 5, 2011 at 3:56 pm


    If anyone wants to know what’s wrong with America, they need only read these posts filled with hatred, vulgarity and intolerance. Regardless of your view or opinion, IN A TRUE AMERICA with freedom of speech, we’d allow another man his view without spewing such hatred and vulgarity. There are misstatements, incorrect “facts” and incomplete “facts” abounding. Yet, the worst is the failure to allow others to hold an opinion that differs from yours without attacking them with venom. I wish that energy could be used to research information and think about the impact on our country and our lives. God Bless America…..dagny

  249. Ed Smithe

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:07 pm


    This is an utter load of garbage. Just because the President hasn’t shown leadership on a variety of issues (especially with respect to the economy) doesn’t mean that he didn’t show leadership on this one. Firstly, how is it that a SEAL team would report to the DCI? The SEAL team reports to the COCOM who reports to the SECDEF. Therefore that order would have had to have come from Robert Gates, not Leon Panetta.

    Second, this is a Presidential-level decision. If he doesn’t make a decision, then nothing happens. The reason why it took him so long to decide whether to do anything was because the intelligence wasn’t a “slam dunk.” Had bin Laden not been there (or had been tipped off) we may never had received another chance to verify that we got him. Just look at the Pakistani response…it’s going to be that much more difficult to obtain actionable intelligence now that they’re trying to satisfy the crazy people in their country to hold onto power.

    It’s amazing to me (as a Conservative Republican) just how far everyone who thinks they’re a conservative is going to discount the President on this issue. Sure, they’ve obviously lied about what actually happened with respect to bin Laden being armed or not…but the fact is that they got him. Let’s stop being emotional and sit down and analyze the facts. The fact is that he made the decision and the decision resulted in a dead bin Laden. That’s reality…no matter how much you dislike the President.

  250. 1lumpor2

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:16 pm


    Ed, So why did he go golfing on the day of the biggest raid in the history of the war on terror? Why was he still on the golf course when the missin started? You know when the helicopters took off from Kandahar to START the mission? Obama day was recorded to the minute by his press pool.

    He was in such a rush to get back after being PULLED off the golfcourse that he showed up in the WEST WING still wearing his golf shirts AND his golf SHOES!

  251. BiteMe

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:28 pm


    Obama is a useless man-child who almost lost another chance to get UBL because there wasn’t a poll available to tell him what to do. Now he is trying to take all the credit even though the previous administration built the infrastructure that allowed this operation to be successful. Obama was against the Patriot Act, against “enhanced interrogation techniques”, against the surges in Iraq and Afghanistan, and against GITMO. He and his fellow left wingers wanted to try the Bush administration on war crimes but worried about violating the civil rights of foreign terrorists. And now he wants to take credit for taking down UBL? And Pannetta deserves little to no credit either. He and his former boss, Slick Willy, were responsible for decimating the CIA and the military, which was rebuilt under Bush following 9/11. These traitors disgust me. And Obama has the nerve to finally show up at Ground Zero for the first time as POTUS so he can gloat on sacred ground. What a disgrace. But those who throw their blind support behind this man are even worse. What a bunch of hypocrites. Obama unilaterally invades a sovereign ally to kill an unarmed man in front of women and children and the leftists are celebrating. I shed no tears for UBL, he deserved what he got. I just find the 180 degree turn by the left wing disgusting. You people are consistently wrong on all matterns, both foreign and domestic.

  252. BiteMe

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:30 pm


    Obama is a useless man-child who almost lost another chance to get UBL because there wasnt a poll available to tell him what to do. Now he is trying to take all the credit even though the previous administration built the infrastructure that allowed this operation to be successful. Obama was against the Patriot Act, against enhanced interrogation techniques, against the surges in Iraq and Afghanistan, and against GITMO. He and his fellow left wingers wanted to try the Bush administration on war crimes but worried about violating the civil rights of foreign terrorists. And now he wants to take credit for taking down UBL? And Pannetta deserves little to no credit either. He and his former boss, Slick Willy, were responsible for decimating the CIA and the military, which was rebuilt under Bush following 9/11. These traitors disgust me. And Obama has the nerve to finally show up at Ground Zero for the first time as POTUS so he can gloat on sacred ground. What a disgrace. But those who throw their blind support behind this man are even worse. What a bunch of hypocrites. Obama unilaterally invades a sovereign ally to kill an unarmed man in front of women and children and the leftists are celebrating. I shed no tears for UBL, he deserved what he got. I just find the 180 degree turn by the left wing disgusting. You people are consistently wrong on all matterns, both foreign and domestic.

  253. Winston

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:35 pm


    So many lies heaped upon lies I’ve put the whole thing on IGNORE.

  254. ThemselvesATraitorCrew

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:36 pm


    Obama is a useless man-child who almost lost another chance to get UBL because there wasnt a poll available to tell him what to do. Now he is trying to take all the credit even though the previous administration built the infrastructure that allowed this operation to be successful. Obama was against the Patriot Act, against enhanced interrogation techniques, against the surges in Iraq and Afghanistan, and against GITMO. He and his fellow left wingers wanted to try the Bush administration on war crimes but worried about violating the civil rights of foreign terrorists. And now he wants to take credit for taking down UBL? And Pannetta deserves little to no credit either. He and his former boss, Slick Willy, were responsible for decimating the CIA and the military, which was rebuilt under Bush following 9/11. These traitors disgust me. And Obama has the nerve to finally show up at Ground Zero for the first time as POTUS so he can gloat on sacred ground. What a disgrace. But those who throw their blind support behind this man are even worse. What a bunch of hypocrites. Obama unilaterally invades a sovereign ally to kill an unarmed man in front of women and children and the leftists are celebrating. I shed no tears for UBL, he deserved what he got. I just find the 180 degree turn by the left wing disgusting. You people are consistently wrong on all matterns, both foreign and domestic.

  255. Ronnie Pudding

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:44 pm


    Obama a “man child?” You truly are naive. He is neither, never has been never will be. So many sheep here too afraid to read between the lines and see what’s really happening. The nuts are threading onto the bolts. When UNITE/Xenuvian Forces are using your pineal glands to fuel their crusher/destroyer biobots you’ll wish you’d opened your eyes instead of following whatever’s been force fed to you by dis-disinfo bloggers and the MSM. The nuts are threading onto the bolt. Listen to Slayer.

  256. Mark Coonan

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:45 pm


    This is the worst piece of slanted, unsubstantiated tripe I’ve read in some time. No wonder the page here is festooned with crap like “magical death touch” kung fu intructional ads. It’s a tabloid site.

  257. terri

    On May 5, 2011 at 4:51 pm


    It’s pretty clear that Valerie Jarrett’s job is to insulate Obama from bad polls. She was doing her job- the upside was slim as we can see that his numbers haven’t gone up appreciably from a successful mission. But then again, the President’s job is not to be concerned with poll numbers…

  258. kingfish20815

    On May 5, 2011 at 5:08 pm


    Hillary has to be congratulated – my god what a feat – seven days in may – pulled off and then published. And written up very well – my sincerist kudos to the reporter – I assume there will be a movie.

  259. H/ Rock

    On May 5, 2011 at 5:18 pm


    Obama killing Osama ? One muslim killing another. Isn\’t that what they do all the time and throughout history. I sure hope and pray that America wakes up in time for the November 2012 elections.

  260. Noboma

    On May 5, 2011 at 5:28 pm


    Still can\’t get over that photo of Obama sitting in that room with all of those people and he is sitting there in a golfing outfit. that pretty much nails this story as fact. What an idiot we all were for buying this morons crap in 2008. 2012 cant come soon enough.

  261. Ronnie Pudding

    On May 5, 2011 at 5:48 pm


    Obama will be re-elected in 2012. You\’re a fool if you think any different. Wake up, people! Topeka Doctrine.

  262. Fen

    On May 5, 2011 at 6:00 pm


    “Barack Obama is more intelligent than almost any person walking the earth.”

    *snicker*

    Obama is DHOTUS. Diversity Hire Of the United States.

    Unqualified. Selected because of his skin color. Can’t handle the workload. Grows frustrated then bitter and angry. Blames everyone else for his failures.

    “You’re a fool if you think any different”

    I always love how the Left uses appeals to conformity as an argument: “smart people believe x” . They use it because its worked on them.

  263. aDCBeast

    On May 5, 2011 at 6:47 pm


    This is republican propaganda

    Obama made the decision.

  264. tim

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:06 pm


    Evil lies.

    Even the way it’s written is barely-hidden propaganda.

    WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE?!!

    OMG – there goes Elvis, with Osama Bin Laden!

  265. JB

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:11 pm


    Seems to me this story is just as credible as anything coming out of the media and certainly reflects the indecisive history this coward of a pResident shows on a daily basis. And of course, now we get “Photos’ will not be released!”…hmmm Makes this story even more believable. We have absolutely no evidence tha the killing of OBL actually happened so this is just as believable I’d say.

    Obamaramadingdong? He’s nothing more than a punk…

  266. BarzOnTheWindow

    On May 5, 2011 at 8:54 pm


    I’m not sure what to believe. I’m just glad OBL is DEAD! -Yes, I am a Republican. Yes, I believe Obama is a sad excuse for a President, but NO, I don’t think it’s good for all of the far fetched things I’ve been reading lately. (It makes us look like the Bush-Phobes of not-so long ago) and they LOOKED STUPID! -Remember?

  267. tim

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:00 pm


    so much (barely) hidden racism on here…

  268. Xeros

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:08 pm


    100% false. Pam Geller is the crazy blogger who made this up.

    Shame on you for even writing this.

  269. tim

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:10 pm


    GOD must have written this, because clearly the author was everywhere.

    Not only that, but somehow:
    - a person who can barely write or speak got a job at the highest level of government
    - they are highly critical of everyone even though they are clearly VERY MUCH on the inside
    - they are willing to divulge top-level information about a highly sensitive issue involving national security

    They also use words no insider would use. Just one of dozens of examples I can’t be bothered detailing: describing Panetta as having a ‘policy’. Anyone who’s done basic politics knows that only ELECTED representatives have POLICIES. OFFICIALS have plans, strategies, etc. but NEVER policies. A govt insider just would not say that. It’s like a sailor not calling the stern, the bow.

    Also, most glaringly of all, it uses many, many barely disguised attacks on Obama…Putting aside the fact that even the most disillusioned staffer wouldn’t say things in such an obviously attacking way – they are quite amateurish in their execution. Two very quick examples:
    “Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.”

    Check this out for AMATEURISH:
    “At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order”
    NOTE: – it did not originate from him,

    This total amateur misinformationist can’t help him/herself but to make sure the main unFACTOID is SLAMMED home. LOSER!

    Finally, if all this was going on, why was not ONE JOT leaked?

    Truly. Go back to college-politics-level misinformation school. Or whatever -istan country you learnt this garbage from.

    I have no need to criticise it politically. Its far greater sin is to be such a PATHETIC attempt!!

  270. tim

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:11 pm


    GOD must have written this, because clearly the author was everywhere.

    Not only that, but somehow:
    - a person who can barely write or speak got a job at the highest level of government
    - they are highly critical of everyone even though they are clearly VERY MUCH on the inside
    - they are willing to divulge top-level information about a highly sensitive issue involving national security

    They also use words no insider would use. Just one of dozens of examples I can\’t be bothered detailing: describing Panetta as having a \’policy\’. Anyone who\’s done basic politics knows that only ELECTED representatives have POLICIES. OFFICIALS have plans, strategies, etc. but NEVER policies. A govt insider just would not say that. It\’s like a sailor not calling the stern, the bow.

    Also, most glaringly of all, it uses many, many barely disguised attacks on Obama…Putting aside the fact that even the most disillusioned staffer wouldn\’t say things in such an obviously attacking way – they are quite amateurish in their execution. Two very quick examples:
    \”Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.\”

    Check this out for AMATEURISH:
    \”At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order\”
    NOTE: – it did not originate from him,

    This total amateur misinformationist can\’t help him/herself but to make sure the main unFACTOID is SLAMMED home. LOSER!

    Finally, if all this was going on, why was not ONE JOT leaked?

    Truly. Go back to college-politics-level misinformation school. Or whatever -istan country you learnt this garbage from.

    I have no need to criticise it politically. Its far greater sin is to be such a PATHETIC attempt!!

  271. Pat dioxin

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:30 pm


    I. Know not what to say with the exception of the fact that this president needed a (great for me) photo op. And, to shore up his chances to raise his failing political positions. Further, he has always appeared to me, to my feble mentality, that ( if what I do or say doesn\’t, puff me up, I won,t say it.). I refer to Mr. Obama of course.

    There is no way that I would put my life, my family, or my destiny into this mans lands, or those of some of his political allies.

    My prayer through his presidency has been that he would be brought to his knees before the Lord in a total surrender, surrender of his life and his role in the county an it\’s people.

  272. Jess

    On May 5, 2011 at 9:39 pm


    The poor Obama fans got nothing but to try and call this story racist????? LOL!!!!! Its now been proven that Obama was in fact golfing the day of the mission. Golfing!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!! They tried to cover that up by saying he got back to the White House about 2 hrs before it started, but that would man Obummer sat around for 2 hrs in his golf clothes and then wandered into the situation room??? LOL!!!!!! No way hozay. Obama was taken off the course and dropped in that room period. This story got it right. Totally right! ANd its probably not even all of it!!!!!

  273. Mike C.

    On May 5, 2011 at 10:34 pm


    Wasn’t this an episode of 24?

  274. John Wolf

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:14 pm


    I voted for Obama to prove that I am not racist. Now who do I vote for to prove that I am not an idiot.

  275. JJM

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm


    \”This event is a definining moment in our Presidents legacy, and no amount of internet chatter peppered with BS will ever change that.\”
    This will be the only moment in his legacy that I will want to remember!! Of course if things had gone wrong, he certainly would have given anyone else the credit/blame. His life is nothing but political, grabbing good headlines and shunning bad. The man is not a leader and not a credible decision maker, his legacy and agendas are BS.

  276. 1lumpor2

    On May 5, 2011 at 11:38 pm


    Going by the White House Press corps timeline of Obamas day on sunday he left the golfcourse at 1.04pm DC time, The Helicopters were at Osamas hideout at 3:10 DC time…… Got that?

    The helilocopters used in the mission was a secret stealth version of the MH-60 Black Hawk. Seen for the 1st time in this mission. The Blackhawk has a top speed of 183mph withouth all the stealth stuff added to it. They first took Osamas’ body back to Kandahar Air Base in Afganistan where the mission started. Kandahar is 470 miles from Abbottabad, that’s just city limits to city limits distance. So the flight time was ATLEAST 2.5 hours. Obama was on the golf course when the Helicopters took off to start the mission. When he got to the white house the mission had already be going on in the air for 45 minutes……

  277. reader

    On May 6, 2011 at 12:06 am


    Cool post lumpor2. That information would seem to totally support the version given by this insider. Of all the screaming liberal posts in here, none of them have been able to say anything to dispute the insider version of how Panetta was teh one who led the charge to get Osama. Obumo was out on the golf course and the photo shows that to be a fact as well. And now you are giving us a great timeline that also proves Obumo was totally out of the loop on the operation. Of course now he gets to play hero which seems to be all he cares about anywayz.

  278. 1lumpor2

    On May 6, 2011 at 1:09 am


    I did mess up 1 thing in that post, he left the golfcourse at 2:04PM DC time and the helicopters were at the compound at 4:10PM DC time. I listed the times for central time zone where I’m at. He was still 45+ minutes late to the party. The White House Press pool documented all this….

  279. Fasteddie

    On May 6, 2011 at 2:03 am


    When the congresswoman got shot, Obama said she spoke right AFTER he visited her. The truth was that she had spoken shortly before his visit and he asked the family if he could relate that she had spoken. He then acted like he, the messiah, helped cure her.
    He never saluted the flag. He never used to wear a lapel flag pin. Michele stated she was always embarassed by our country but for the FIRST time she was proud of our country after BHO got elected.
    BHO said America is sometimes an arrogant country. He has bowed to foreign leaders.
    He never made a decision in Congress, either.
    I noticed that the Dems on here either curse everyone or call them racist and infer they are stupid, living in a trailer park, etc.
    It makes the Dems look stupid.
    This story may not be true but where there is smoke there is usually a fire. There has been a ton of smoke the past 3 years.
    By the way, the deficit has risen from 10 Trillion to 14.3 Trillion dollars in just over 2 years. It went from 1 Trillion to 10 Trillion in 28 years. Bush ran it up 4 Trillion in 8 years. Obama has already passed that point.
    Remember Bush and all of his oil pals running up the big profits on gasoline? I wish they would make a return trip since the price has more than doubled under our current “leader”.
    The two wars were just totally wrong and way too costly. BHO took care of that and got us into a third war, after messing around for a week or two trying to decide.
    He is raising a cool Billion dollars for his re-election, all of that coming from POOR people. He wants to tax the wealthy so they are not going to vote for him after he does that, right?
    He is in bed with the filthy rich and big corporations but for some reason it is always the Democrats who want to tax the wealthy to pay for everything for the third generation welfare cheats.
    Notice I didn’t use a single curse word. Guess you can figure out I am Republican.

  280. princepk1234

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:15 am


    osama is died now!

  281. Doc

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:37 am


    His indecision is completely consistent with his senate record where he mostly voted present to avoid taking a position on any issue. He is an empty suit taking direction from his handlers and has been relegated to a position of an irrelevant mouthpiece.

  282. Shain

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:52 am


    Having followed Ulsterman’s reporting of the WHI from day one, this rings consistent and true. How do I know?

    Because the WHI and all Democrats over whom he despises (prettty much Obama, Jarrett, and Michelle) or fawns (pretty much every other Democrat including himself) NEVER FAIL to consider and act on power, party, and politics … over truth, America, and her citizens — respectfully.

    Were they to value the latter over the former, they would correctly identify Obama as more of a threat to America than Osama, correspondingly standing united behind a public call that he resign immediately — and if not, why they all will resign instead … and exactly WHY!

    Regardless of party, people in power behaving this way are domestic enemies and, IMHO, traitors. That’s right, I said it.

  283. Tammy

    On May 6, 2011 at 9:10 am


    What a bunch of loonytoons!
    Bush didnt hide Osama Bin Laden!
    Clinton did hide Monika in his pants!
    These are the facts!

    Obama will not be elected in 2012

    America needs to be a strong Nation not one
    that apologizes to the most crude wicked
    dictators in the world!
    There are millions of thankful Iraqis in Iraq who
    love America for liberating them from Saddam
    but the media will not allow America to hear them
    praise President Bush for all he has done for them
    in Iraq and that is shameful to our troops and to
    our American people!
    It is time to be truthful and stop these games and
    be real because tearing Americans apart with mind
    games is pitiful and stupid.
    We need a President who pulls our country together
    and leads our people in the right direction. One who
    protects our borders like its his own backyard!!!
    A President who is more proud of true blooded americans
    than illegal immigrants who are liars and trying to rob
    our country of every hard earned dollar our men and women
    have worked hundreds of years to build this country!!!
    We need a President who loves the American Flag and
    everything American like no other on earth!!!
    When our workers get up in the morning they feel loved
    and protected and also admired by the White House
    and by the staff. They wont make up anymore conspiracy
    stories about past Presidents and make our country some
    kind of a JOKE!!!
    America will once again be a Nation that is Beautiful and
    Strong and a place where you love so much that you will
    protect it with all your heart not tear it apart with lies upon
    lies this needs to stop!
    This Mothers Day I pray for My America and Americans
    and dream that in the coming days months and yrs that
    this nation will heal and begin to care for one another and
    be a place that you hear children laughing, dogs barking and
    people singing on sunny days and we can smell a BBQ
    and the streets are lazy again with sprinklers running and
    children running in them again and the local news is
    not about gang shootings and death but about a car wreck
    or a simple accident but the narco war in mexico will be over
    and we will no longer be fighting a war in afghanistan and
    countries are happier because if we dont do something soon
    these kids are going to be very very sick and angry when they
    grow up its already beginning to bear fruit so start now and
    start to care before its too late!

    God Bless All and God Bless America!

  284. Truth to Power

    On May 6, 2011 at 10:31 am


    I’m trying to figure out whether this author and his supporters are racists, liars, or terrorists themselves. I think the correct answer is, all of the above!

  285. The T-Dog

    On May 6, 2011 at 10:46 am


    The photo in the situation room confirms everything written in this fascinating article. Look where Obama is located. Not in the center of the room. Off to the side. Against a wall. Look where Hillary is. Front and center. (Newfound respect for her.) And the CIA and military leaders are in the center of the room. In charge. Obama HAD BEEN PLAYING GOLF!!!
    Only a pathetic lib would read this article, see the attached photo, and disagree with the contents and, moreover, argue that it is part of a \”vast right wing conspiracy.\”
    Face it, libs, your mysterious Chicago community organizer was WAY OUT OF HIS LEAGUE on this one. Smarter, more courageous leaders stepped in and made sure this mission was accomplished. And now America is safer.

  286. dustbowlhand

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:54 am


    Hello PersonWithABrain

    You are a liberal retard. Put down the Kool-aid.

    Never over-ruled, big deal, this is plainly a work-around of the
    Vacillator in Chief.

    What do you call the commander who made the decision, that
    Barry Soetoro would not, to use the SEAL team to make headshots on the Muslims that took the Merchant Marine Captain. I call him decisive in making the call.

    What do you call a POTUS who takes TWO months to decide
    to up the troops by 300,000 who is advised by a EXPERIENCED Military man. I call him (POTUS) indecisive in making the call.

    It is plain that the informer endangers their position, if he/she
    releases this report with credits. It is smart to conceal personal
    info, lest this inept POTUS fires the whistleblowerer.

    As usual many attack the messenger and not the message.
    That is the Alinsky method. You however Mr. PersonWithABrain site the law, which BO fails to enforce in DOMA, and the Dallas CAIR case and the Black Panther poll instance Etc.Etc…

    Since when did Barry Soetoro follow the law?

    Two and a half years ago the supposed BC was released,
    BO said “plastered on his forehead”. He could see it, but
    know one else could see this doc on his forehead. Then
    magically a “Certificate of Live Birth” (legal ID) appears, versus
    the “Certification of Live Birth” (invalid ID) that the Obama
    media and other racist crying libbers declared as proof.

    Now which is the real proof? The recently released doc or
    the one shown to the world for 2.5 years. The lies need more
    lies to cover and it keeps on, keeping on.

    You can always tell when BO lies.

    HIS MOUTH IS MOVING!!

  287. Dave

    On May 6, 2011 at 12:10 pm


    Very consistent with the actions of a self-absorbed, narcissistic ideologue, concerned only with how an action will affect them, anything and everyone else be damned. If you believe this describes the current occupant of the White House, then you will tend to believe this article. If you believe the current occupant is your own personal Jesus, then you will be OUTRAGED at the Right Wing Devils, and would likely want the SEALS to carry out a mission against them. My guess is that, if this is true, Hilliary will NOT be able to keep her part in this quiet forever…and then we shall see.

  288. Jason

    On May 6, 2011 at 12:22 pm


    This is complete nonsense. I am very close to someone that was in that room watching the operation go down and this article is so far from the truth is amazing.

  289. NObama

    On May 6, 2011 at 12:42 pm


    B.H.O. probably hesitated, knowing there’s a Sharia rule against ordering a hit on a family member.

  290. Dave

    On May 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm


    Jason:

    At the very least, it is “incomplete nonsense”. If it were complete nonsense, then none of it would ring true. Because of the demonstrated previous behaviours of this President, it does ring of truth, whether or not this is an accurate depection of what went down. Just as a weakness in this article is a lack of identification of the source, so is your own comment, as you do not name your close friend who was in the room…

  291. Chicago Lar

    On May 6, 2011 at 1:43 pm


    Whew! This one has the Obama worshippers frothing at the mouth. I guess it cuts too close to the bone for them. But let’s consider three things:

    First, is that Obama has bungled everything he has set his hand to. Just look at Egypt, Syria, Libya, etc., for an example.
    Second, is that he is notorious for not being able to make a decision. Just look at how many times Obungle voted “present” in his political career.

    Third, even the MSM have stated he was pulled off the golf course. Now if Obungle had the slightest idea that an operation as serious as this was going on, would he have gone golfing? If so, he was irresponsible beyond all belief!

    But Obama worshippers don’t care about the facts, they are incapable of processing them. I suppose all those shivers up their legs distract them too much.

    Meantime, I think Hillary should reconsider running for President in 2012. There’s no way Obungle could get reelected.

  292. Rajeev Baliyan

    On May 6, 2011 at 2:03 pm


    But this credit goes to those soldier who killed Osama…… No one can kill anyone from inside the room…….

  293. az native

    On May 6, 2011 at 2:18 pm


    Sad part, now we have to wade through and watch him take credit for it..(JUST ANOTHER CAMPAIGN KODAK MOMENT ON THE BOOKS) ….if it was up to him, he would have already done away with our CIA, etc and we never would have gotten him………he is dismantling OUR COUNTRY…as we speak………I guess just another Kodak moment for his campaign…the only problem being, no jobs, too much government control and interference continues….WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS ANYWAY!

  294. bydand

    On May 6, 2011 at 2:23 pm


    Eyeswideopen, Your handle should really read Eyestightlyshut!
    After over two years of obama in the white house, and over four years of the dimocrats in control, all you can do is “Blame Bush” When the hell are you going to accept responsibility for anything? You are like the little boy with cookie crumbs on his face blaming his sister.
    All you can do is slime Republicans to divert attention from your mistakes. The mess we are in was caused by YOU and your party and even when digging it deeper, you still want to blame someone else.

  295. Just Bob

    On May 6, 2011 at 3:12 pm


    As usual, the liberals are always the smartest people in the room. No one else comes close to possessing the vast storehouse of knowledge that exists in their minds. This scenario is very close to the same thing that played out with the Somali Pirate situation some months ago. This is an example of voting “Present” again. This obvious lack of leadership on a level that the US has never experienced before. Like others have posted here, I wasn’t to fired up about Panetta when he was appointed, but he has stepped up and proven himself to be a leader and has focused the CIA better than it has been in years.

  296. Avogadra

    On May 6, 2011 at 3:22 pm


    I wouldn’t believe the White House Insider’s account of the bin Laden takedown, except:

    1. It’s consistent with Obama’s past behavior (dithering on the Somali pirates, dithering on the Afghanistan surge, dithering on the BP oil spill).

    2. It’s consistent with the photograph in the Situation Room (Obama in the corner, in golf clothes, Valerie Jarrett nowhere in sight, a one-star general sitting in the big chair behind the computer).

    3. It’s consistent with Obama’s subsequent behavior (won’t release the OBL picture, 72 versions of the storyline, walking away from Debra Burlingame’s request that Eric Holder stop investigations into “enhanced interrogation”).

    The reason people believe the account of the White House Insider is that it comports perfectly with what we already know.

  297. Frank Disney

    On May 6, 2011 at 3:42 pm


    Our leftist, muslim, liberal man-child president has shown his true colors (no pun intended) once again. It took him two years and two million dollars to finally show his altered birth certificate (not saying it is false info). I wonder how long it will take him to share the photos that most of the world is insisting on seeing before they believe him. Ask any other country what they think of him. His color got him elected but that will not save him the next election.

  298. Mark in Texas

    On May 6, 2011 at 3:56 pm


    Why was POTUS golfing that day and had to be pulled off the course? You are getting ready to kill the biggest terrorist in our lifetime and go golf and say “Hey come get me before it’s over!”

    Yes, that is fishy – unless he is just a complete idiot and forgot that that was the day to get Osama!

    Good job Military, CIA and all involved! POTUS get’s a ‘F’ for the day!!

  299. Robert Hamby

    On May 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm


    Biden up to speed. Now THAT is funny! he must have been in his hamster cage then!

  300. Harry

    On May 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm


    My hunch regarding the “deep throat”: Hillary and company

  301. Larry Vogt

    On May 6, 2011 at 4:27 pm


    They better not dump his body in the Sea! And they did not.They must think we are nuts to belive that,

  302. Kenny

    On May 6, 2011 at 4:47 pm


    Looks like they let a stray high school student into the Situation Room–that would be the Obummer. Fortunately, the adults took charge and put the Obummer in his place. He\\\\\\\’s obviously pissed off about having his golf game interrupted. This piece of slime will now trumpet his role in killing Osama for maximum political impact. Problem is, the American people now see straight through this incompetent political panderer who has the voice of gravitas and the head of emptiness.

    Did we expect leadership from a guy who would have trouble deciding how many Slim Jims to order for the 7/11?

    Oh, the irony: Osama bin Laden done in by Obama bin Lyin.

  303. David Riker

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm


    This site is just one, big, Tea Party pigsty.

  304. Charlie

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm


    My suspicions are confirmed .. Valerie Jarrett is running the country!

  305. Lady Val

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm


    If this is true (and nothing would surprise me) the chances are that Obama’s “dithering” had nothing to do with moral considerations but with concern that doing something might get him even lower poll numbers if it didn’t work. I’m sure he remembered Jimmy Carter’s abortive attempt to rescue the hostages in Iran which pretty much deep-sixed Carter. Then, too, if it was found out that he had bin Laden in his sites and failed to move, that would be equally disastrous – and much closer to the election. Of course, if it went well, that would mean a big “bump” in the polls! Yes, that’s probably pretty much what went on in Obama’s mind in this instance – which itself is both sad and damned scary that our “President” is more concerned with re-election than the good of the nation.

  306. Joe Mudd

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:38 pm


    @ Harold Washinton
    “The ground operation was certainly more risky to AMerican lives, but better politically and the only way to get valuable physical evidence, namely Obama’s hard drives and genetic information.

    check Snopes.”

    We have all been waiting to see both OBAMA’S hard drives
    and genetic information as all we’ve gotten so far are LIES
    and reprinted LIES so I think Corsi’s book will provide
    the much needed “Ground Operation” to flush out all the
    hard info thats needed so O can provide all the nails
    for his own coffin.
    As for this article it’s as credible as the info turns out to be;
    kind of reminds me of the way Deep Throat operated for
    Woodward and Bernstein in Watergate. Looks like the shoe
    is on the other foot now eh. Still it all has to be fleshed out
    and given more time O never ceases to make things worse;
    I agree with Whittle the best place for the country is for O
    to hit the course and stay there, letting the grownups do
    what grownups do.

  307. Mike Goldman

    On May 6, 2011 at 5:44 pm


    As a retired Navy CPO who practiced and taught Leadership, I have been evaluating the performance of Barack H. O’bama [aka "Barry"], for
    quite a while, especially in relation to the accepted standard definition of leadership: “Leadership – the art of accomplishing a mission or task through the direction of other people’s efforts”. Leadership has two principle parts, Precept and Example, which must be in absolute consonance for the leader to be effective. If there is any sense of dichotomy between the leaders precept, [the things he/she advocates], and the personal behavior conducted, that person cannot be considered as a true leader.
    Since BHO was sworn into office, I have been chastised for not calling him “President”. To me, that is a term to be used to show
    respect for a leader, as previously defined. BHO has shown very
    little in meeting the standard of his Precept and Example being in
    consonance. Perhaps if he divorce himself further from the ‘advisers’ tagging along on his coat-tails, he would become a leader. But our Great Nation needs a real leader NOW, not after 2012 or later!

  308. Marshall

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:02 pm


    Obama a a man/child. He looks like a little boy in that room. Biden is off somewhere – as usual!! Valerie is in charge of Obama and she is a Marxist. Wow – we are in good hands!!

    These lefties are really incredible. They believe in abortion big time but yet – we are not supposed to water board horrific terrorists. What gives????

    They play things to only work for them.

    I wish all the liberals would read “Do As I Say Not As I Do”. They would be shocked at how their leaders are living and how they expect them to live. These morons driving around in a piece of crap Prius – do not want to meet up with a GMC pick up!!! For sure you do not see Gore driving a Prius or anyone in his family.

    People that think we can change the weather are FOOLS!!!!

  309. Jana in Sendera

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:19 pm


    I fear most of the posts on this blog are interfering with Mr. Riker’s and 2 or 3 others’ closed minds. Oh Dear. And the comment about Jarrett’s Chicago situation is accurate – if Obama doesn’t hang onto office long enough to short-circuit it, she’ll end up in worse trouble than Blago ever had. As for ‘who elected Jarrett’, no one, the same people who didn’t elect Michelle (who has been proud of this country once in her adult life and who complained to the First Lady of France what a miserable job being First Lady of the USA is) and her mother. It’s well documented among WH insiders, off the record of course, that these three ladies regularly prop up and make decisions for the duly elected president on those occasions when he’s hesitant or out playing golf when a crisis comes down.

  310. charly

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:30 pm


    That is so false! Leon Panetta CANNOT overrule the President! That’s ridiculous! It just shows how undecided and conflicted Obama is as president. He doesn’t know whether to defend Americans or the Muslim community. He obviously has such a connection to his father’s religion that he refuses to make a definitive stand on right and wrong. Sad and pathetic. He has been trying to distance himself this whole time. First they said HE made the decision to kill bin Laden…then they said the Navy SEALS made the decision to kill bin Laden…and NOW they’re saying Panetta made the decision?????? I don’t believe ANY of this. If they really did find bin Laden, they didn’t dump him into the sea — they’ve got him in a secured location that not even Obama knows about.

  311. Big Ugly, Wyoming

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:48 pm


    Who made Jarrett “President”?
    Every single one of them must be executed for their crimes against WE THE PEOPLE.
    Obama, because he’s totally worthless, a fraud, Usurper, and not worthy of drawing another breath because someone has to tell him to do it.
    Clinton, Panetta, Gates, and the rest for exceeding their authority, the ordering the invasion of a foreign sovereign nation, and the wanton murder of un-armed persons

    Everyone in that room, and everyone involved in this criminal action must be executed.

  312. Larry Sparks

    On May 6, 2011 at 6:49 pm


    Obama is a corrupt coward and news that he deliberated on the decision to attack and eventually kill bin Laden is no surprise.

  313. ABUTOM

    On May 6, 2011 at 7:12 pm


    HOW SAD!
    I BELIEVE THIS.
    THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.
    Procrastination causes lives to be lost. Patton said when in doubt attack. He also said no good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.No wonder Obama rushed to get kudos.
    Valery Jarret is a threat to the Nation and must be FB eyed, A stall for time can leak info to terrorists and their sympathizers naively or deliberately.
    LEON PANETTA IF THIS WAS YOUR CALL YOU DESERVE A TICKER TAPE PARADE AT LIBERTY PLAZA.

    http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM

    IF THIS PROVES TRUE. HILLARY HAS THE 2012 NOMINATION. OBAMA IS IN OVER HIS HEAD. ALL THE PULLED STRINGS THAT GOT HIM HERE ARE BROKEN.

  314. Davy Croquette

    On May 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm


    The whole Osama event, including this story, is a Hollywood drama contrived for various, obvious and insidious reasons. Bin Laden has been dead almost a decade as many high government officials and insiders have stated through the years.

    Even the photo from the situation room is a fraud. Leon Panetta said that there was no feed while the team was in the compound….in the photo they are all posing and staring at a blank screen….the government lies to divide, conquer and control you; too many of you are playing into their hands by arguing over the content of this propaganda as if it were the truth…..like gossip about who is the weaker personality instead of why this lie at this time. Do your homework; don’t be sheep….

  315. ffs

    On May 6, 2011 at 8:26 pm


    What a bunch of mendacious wankers!

  316. Beldar

    On May 6, 2011 at 8:34 pm


    Just heard Mark Levin say that if it became public that Obama knew for some time where OBL was and took no action, that he would move to impeach. Can you imagine? That would be the trial of the century!!!

  317. John Wolf

    On May 6, 2011 at 9:48 pm


    If Obama had failed to go after Osama, then he should have been tried for treason. As it was, he delayed the operation for almost eight months. We are lucky that he was still there. Remember, he murdered thousands of Americans in cold blood.

  318. John Wolf

    On May 6, 2011 at 9:51 pm


    What a trial. We would at least find out where he was born and who his parents were. Besides, we would learn who he is talking to on his Blackberry..

  319. Stella

    On May 6, 2011 at 9:55 pm


    Quote: “I voted for Obama to prove that I am not a racist. Now, who do I vote for to prove that I am not an idiot?”

  320. John Wolf

    On May 6, 2011 at 9:59 pm


    I believe that he is biggest fraud ever. The rest of the world thinks that we are idiots. We actually elected the Manchurian Candidate.

  321. Stella

    On May 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm


    Does anyone believe that president teleprompter is a Christian?

  322. Daedalus

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:05 pm


    first time visitor… if Bill didnt ghost post these details, then Valerie Jarret has confirmed the Peter Principle. Yet somehow the latter seems plausible while the former appears trite.

    The Obama Administration would break a steel ball. Clutz, Putz culture is zackly ackbwards….No wonder leaks of this magnitude seep out of a Serengeti sideshow now called the USA…

    Thank God the sideshow was sidelined by rule of law clear thinkers. The civilized world cannot be resolved by Valerie Jarret’s psycho-jingoism against American citizens.

    How many non black farmers suffered discrimination yet cant recover? How many non black voters were intimidated by anyone, yet have no recourse? Two examples among many… this administration is a walking real time example of hypocrisy, socialism, vacuousness and critical legal studies theory.

    Also, should this be true, it is not capable of defending our liberties, lives or posterity unless Valerie Jarrett thinks it worthwhile..

    I dont know about the rest of you, but I dont give a tinker’s damn about her mind. My family has been in this country before it was a country. WE clearly made a serious constitutional error and apparently a national security error by electing this fool. He apparently has appointees in National Security Positions who have never produced even a mere widget, much less had to purchase one from the sweat of their brow. God bless the USA, in spite of these heretics.

  323. Scott McCoy

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:06 pm


    It would be really funny if the leak was BILL CLINTON via Hillary!!!!!!
    LMAO…….

  324. bubba

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:17 pm


    This is the same ass hole who couldn’t pull the trigger,on the pirates,remember,the Navy comander said you get them in the sites and take them out.They gave this uncompentent negro the credit,buy he still has his head up his ass on that one.

  325. no obot

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm


    Obama was photoshopped into that photo.Look how small his head is compared to the rest of the people in that room.

  326. Liz

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:41 pm


    Also note that in the picture Obama is wearing a jacket. This room was, as I read it, the White House situation room. Obama lives in the White House. Why would he be wearing a jacket indoors unless he just came in from outside?

    What the Insider said rings true.

  327. Chivozmin

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:41 pm


    This sort of insubordination from Panetta wouldn’t be the first time, such as when he offered military assistance–against Bill Clinton’s orders–to the Indonesian military still conducting genocide in East Timor.

  328. Marco

    On May 6, 2011 at 11:45 pm


    Anyone who believes this story is an idiot. Its not a matter of whether you like Obama, its simple logic. This story would have you believe that the CIA director went behind the presidents back, drew up plans for a military attack inside another sovereign nation, was able to coordinate all the logistics, personnel, etc without the presidents knowledge, only informing him when the Op was underway? Uhh, no, not gonna happen.
    1. Chain of command is everything. Good luck getting the service chiefs to go along with this scam of bypassing sole presidential authority to order the military into action, as commander in chief. Had Panetta actually did what this story
    said it would be a huge constitutional crisis, for the CIA to usurp powers specifically given to congress and the president (Making war, ordering military strikes)
    2. Had this operation gone wrong – heads would have rolled. Do you think the service chiefs, the CIA, DHS, would all stick there necks out so far to try and bypass the commander in chief? It would be like playing russian roulette with your job. It would be a HUGE issue. Furthermore, Panetta, in his position HAS NO AUTHORITY to order the military into action. NONE. That power lies with congress and the president. Anyone whos ever served in military or the government will tell you – people do not stick their necks out like this.
    3. Presidential briefings – as more intel on this compound had surfaced, it would have no doubt been in the presidents daily briefing, as well as contingency plans- you mean to tell me Panetta not only coordinated this attack since last august, but also kept information secret from the president to an extent to hide his plans? No, no no.
    Look, love or hate Obama, this story is inplausible to the N’th degree. It just wouldnt happen.

  329. Racism Sucks

    On May 7, 2011 at 12:02 am


    Boo. Don’t publish something as fact without credible sources.

  330. dan

    On May 7, 2011 at 12:04 am


    Laughable. Amazing to watch in comments such as these how political affiliations make people so paranoid and gullible about conspiracies regarding their enemies.

  331. Jim from Alaska

    On May 7, 2011 at 12:50 am


    Great point about Obama wearing that jacketin the pic. Claerly he just came from outside and his golfing. Meaning he was not at the situation room when this thing was going down. The Insider has it pegged down and the Obambots cannot handle the truth. Pretty damn sad this guy was elected. Hope we can change it back in 2012.

  332. scgator2001

    On May 7, 2011 at 12:51 am


    Many argue that Obama’s supporting cast would not order an attack on Osama without Obama’s permission.

    At the same time, Attorney General Holder is arguing that he knew nothing about project GUNRUNNER, the huge story that is just now showing ties to the upper echelons of the Obama administration.

    Which is it? Obama is sometimes in charge but not in charge when weapons are being dumped into Mexico to give the appearance of an out of control gun industry when in fact the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS doing the dumping.

    Gunrunner is starting out just like Watergate. And in GUNRUNNER just like Watergate, the pawns will lie and cheat to protect the “president.” Obama is toast if Issa keeps asking the right questions.

    GUNRUNNER came directly out of the White House. It is Obama’s dream to shut down the gun industry but instead, Obama will face a firestorm that will finally expose his games.

  333. J L Rand

    On May 7, 2011 at 1:03 am


    “”"I absolutely can’t believe anyone is stupid enough to believe this unsubstantiated crap. What is even more alarming is some of the comments written above – absolute ignorance and lunacy!
    Anyone that believes this nonsense … please, please don’t procreate – we have enough idiots and haters in the world.”"”

    What I can’t believe is that 52% of our voters didn’t have the sense to see through Obama’s manufactured persona long before they put the doofus where he might do real damage.

    I guess Will Rogers said it best about our Lib-Left contingent:
    … What you DON’t know can cause you trouble, but nothing like what you DO know but just ain’t SO …

  334. Jim from Alaska

    On May 7, 2011 at 1:12 am


    This insider said a while back that there would be a investigation of the DOJ that would be big trouble for Obama. Looks like they got that right too cause this gunrunner thing is stinking to high heaven. Time for popcorn.

  335. bcoles

    On May 7, 2011 at 4:20 am


    If you crazy’ssssss out there believe any of the fabricated bull, then I hope you get exactly what you deserve,,,, each other,,, The people, wealthy republicans mostly that have become wealthy on the backs of others, by playing you public fools that don’t know much of anything that goes on, on capital hill or by scamming the public will not share their wealth or anything else with you or anybody else. Money, and the greed for more that the PARTY OF NO shares is zip,,, you’ll be thrown under the bus just like you alwasy have been,, can’t you figure it out yet, your like growing mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed bull s8it. This is the first time and last time that I will ever go to this site as it makes me sick to see what people write about our president and how they can believe any of it. My hope and prayers are that you will wake up before its to late. The hipocrites on the hill will always lie to gain what ever it is that they want for themselves. They have nothing to loose,, most of them have more money than they can ever spend in five life times. Its GREED and the game of who can tell the biggest lie and get away with it. There are no more morals or working for the people, its all about what they can gain for themselves, go to google and ask what senators and congraessmen are millionairs and how they earned their fortune,,, you will be suprised. Good night and good luck.

  336. Allan

    On May 7, 2011 at 4:22 am


    Some of this story was confirmed tonight
    May 7, 9pm
    on the John Batchelor show WABC
    by Larry Johnson
    ex CIA and State Department:

    for the podcast check:

    http://www.wabcradio.com/sectional.asp?id=33447

  337. Allan

    On May 7, 2011 at 4:24 am


    correction to the above

    May 6 9pm.

  338. joltinjoe

    On May 7, 2011 at 5:42 am


    It can truthfully be said that Obama did authorize the “mission” by remembering what he has said in the past that he would authorize getting UBL if credible evidence was presented. Pannetta, therefore, had authorization to push the mission. Obama could very well have been golfing as the mission moved forward. The photograph is of the group watching what was produced by the mission participants. Realtime or soon thereafter is of no moment here. Almost every television show is tape delayed so this one most probably was too.

    The horrible part of this story is that so much of our secret abilities to carry out covert operations were compromised by the administration’s big mouths. Also, 18 false statements, later changed to now ony 12 or so still false statements purporting to correct the original 18 shows such a high degree of incompentence by Obama’s sidekicks. It is appalling how bad this band of bumblers are.

    Now you know!

  339. Faceless

    On May 7, 2011 at 5:56 am


    The way the responses are worded smacks of a beltway hit job.

  340. God Bless America

    On May 7, 2011 at 6:00 am


    I have to say I believe there is trurh to all of this. I think they did an end run around the President and Jarrett. I also think they pulled him off the golf course at the last minute with Seal’s in the air.
    They most likely then told him either authorize the mission or cancel it. But if you cancel it you can bet it will somehow get out that you let osama go. To save his political a** he let it go ahead. My hat is off to Panetta, Clinton and the rest and i am no fan normally.

  341. AmazingP

    On May 7, 2011 at 6:38 am


    another fairytale…in the neverland…

  342. hostile

    On May 7, 2011 at 7:32 am


    The Reason for all the Infavor Comment’s for the Potus, they voted for the man and have to keep praseing his holy name, because they are embarrest. That they voted solely cause he had some black looking skin, not because he had any smart’s, any Idea’s or leadership qualitie’s. He can read a telepromter good thou, I, guess all that college work didn’t go to waste, he learned how to read in Public, dribble, promise’s, lie’s, distortion. That’s why he smile’s all the time, dumm people smile and wave, so your happy being lied too.

  343. Who is Kimberly Ricci

    On May 7, 2011 at 8:21 am


    What I really what to know is this.

    Who is Kimberly Ricci, and why does K.Riccisux hate her so much?

    “K.Riccisux

    On May 3, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    KIMBERLY RICCI is an unamerican BITCH! She is antin american, and her and all the republican cinspiracy Theorists deserve to go to Hell Just like Bin Laden, which OBAMA Captured .8 yrs in office and all BUSH did was keep Bin Laden hidden at the Bush compound…”

  344. Scott Belford

    On May 7, 2011 at 8:35 am


    BULL!! (btw, EyesWideOpen, didn’t you read on the Internet that Jerrett leaked that nobody has told Obama the Drones are flying over Pakistan, lol — that was sarcasm in case those who buy this idiocy want to spread this juicy piece of fabrication as well.)

  345. Alan

    On May 7, 2011 at 8:59 am


    When will the truth re Obamas’ incompetence be revealed by the media??? While I believe this report to be fact, I would like to see it on FOX, CNN, MSNBC & any other additional sites…
    Way to go US military & covert operation assets!!!

  346. Harry

    On May 7, 2011 at 11:25 am


    I detect a “Zoloft” effect in the president’s flat (”cool”) affect, especially when he gazes vacantly back and forth between the two teleprompters.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSTRE7455FG20110506?videoId=206928840

  347. Aeres

    On May 7, 2011 at 12:53 pm


    Obama looks confused in that photograph, now that terrorist has been killed what is next ….reprisals from Laden’s band of thug?

  348. Readytoleave this mess

    On May 7, 2011 at 2:54 pm


    Looks like Leon Pannetta took time off from being superman to sit down and help you with this biased article

  349. Edward

    On May 7, 2011 at 2:58 pm


    Finally the George Bush plan has resulted in the killing of UBL.
    God bless our Seals.

  350. JD

    On May 7, 2011 at 3:15 pm


    Gotta love this ridiculous teabagger nonsense.

  351. JD

    On May 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm


    And Edward, the George Bush plan to catch Bin Laden was to call him insignificant and to disband the the task force looking for him in 2006. You have to be a retard (or a Foxnews viewer….but they are the same thing really) to think that Bush had anything to do with this.

  352. Stella

    On May 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm


    Obama walked barefoot and killed Osama all by himself.

  353. MSender

    On May 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm


    You are a bunch of gullible idiots. I went to Harvard Law School and have insider sources as well. President Obama led the decision making team from the begiinning of his administration. The military developed several alternatives – bombing, drones, or direct raid. Obama analyzed every detail with State, CIA, National Security, and military. He selected the Navy Seal Six team because of size, manueverability, new stealth helicopters, and the intensive training that made them ready for this most dangerous of all missions that could have gove wrong. Obama played every card just right – by showing up at public events, going to the Washington correspondents dinner, playing golf, etc. No one suspected that he had given the order. This is an example of the highest level of intelligence and leadership, making one of the most difficult decisions an american President has ever made – so many things could have gone wrong and he would get the blame. Your idiot secret source is a coward and clearly does not know the role of Valerie Jarrett – she advises about women and children issues – not about national security. When your source comes clean in public and is examined by investigative reporters to verify any of this crap, then there might be some credibility – but my insider source says none of this is true – but has been fabricated for political reason like the swift boaters — in fact it is probably the same swift boaters who wrote this anonymous fiction. they are really good at it,, but the author made serious mistakes – which is why no reputable reporter is following up on this fiction. Good try, but I am afraid this will go down in the trash bin of bad fiction where it deserves to die.

  354. B. J.

    On May 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm


    This absolutely sounds plausible and I have no doubt of its truth. I mean, if you are honest with yourself, you realize that Obama is a puppet and without his teleprompter, he’d not be able to say hello without faltering. What bothers me is that I googled this Ulsterman or whatever his name is and found that he has supposedly said last year that he does not have any insider and that he made it all up. Yet he continues to blog so what’s with all that. Is that someone trying to confuse the issue that there is an insider? Sounds like the Demorats would have been far better off with Hillary as bad as that would have been. And being a Harvard Law School graduate does not a smart person make – you are the idiot young man. You went there for brain washing and you got it. Get out in the real world and open your eyes.

  355. why not

    On May 7, 2011 at 6:23 pm


    was an executive order issued to kill? is so, what is the number?

  356. Reader

    On May 7, 2011 at 6:38 pm


    Much of this story now confirmed via radio broadcast from former CIA operative.

    http://www.wabcradio.com/sectional.asp?id=33447

    And Ulsterman has never said the insider is not true. There are a ton of false stories out there using his titles and sometimes even his name. If it doesn’t have his photo tag then it isn’t a ulsterman story. Don’t be fooled by the pretenders or Soros funded smear campaigns.

  357. Augie01

    On May 7, 2011 at 7:07 pm


    Of course an Insider would not out the information, not even to WH staff, certainly not on a public website…until mission accomplished…

  358. KileysMom

    On May 7, 2011 at 7:26 pm


    Listned to that link reader. Holy smokes that was interesting stuff. First the photo of Obama in his golf clothes made this seem legit. Then the 1000 different versions of what really happened made it more legit. Then Panetta saying yes we will show Osama dead and Obama saying no made it even more legit. Then Hillary saying no thanks to be seeing with Obama at the Ground Zero ceremony even more legit. Then we got no photo, no video, no nothing of what really happened at the Obama compound. That makes it even more legit. Now I listened to that radio show with the CIA operations person who basically backs up everything that this insider had said about how Panetta had to go around Jarrett and taht Obama was as usual not really involved in any real decisions. Also teh body being dumped in the Kush also sounds much more believable than us having some muslim burial hundreds of miles away at sea. This insider person better be careful because they really opened up the truth on the OBama white house this time and Jarret is gotta be pissed off.

  359. The Infinite Writer

    On May 7, 2011 at 7:53 pm


    Well Marshall, You certainly got everyone’s attention with this one. I thought it was a little too quiet on the MLF front since the birth certificate was released. You probably have “insider” information on that too. Frankly, I’m tired of all the Obama bashing. No matter what he does, the Republicans would not approve. Is this America? Is this what we have stooped to?
    In what other country can you openly bash the president?
    I am ashamed of the citizenry. This is not “civil”ization.
    Shame on you.

  360. Right is Right

    On May 7, 2011 at 9:15 pm


    Excuse me….is that not EXACTLY what you filthy-mouth dems did CONTINUOUSLY to Bush???? Shame on YOU!!!!

  361. Wizofodd

    On May 7, 2011 at 9:17 pm


    Fabricated horse manure. The story takes the gullibility of a child accepting tinkerbelle to believe that you have this sort of access or that anyone would tell a birther crazy like you anything. Only the mentally crippled would read this and not be certain that you have nothing here but an agenda.

    NONSENSE of the most outrageous sort. The Mad Hatter would be proud.

  362. Guest

    On May 7, 2011 at 9:28 pm


    Panetta helped clean up Bush’s mess. That’s why Obama hesitated. He thought it might be a good idea to take him alive and ask a question.

  363. Rob

    On May 7, 2011 at 9:29 pm


    Looking forward to the next answer from the brainiacs that are arfcom.

  364. PickyBiker

    On May 7, 2011 at 9:44 pm


    Someone once said, ” If Hillary gave Obama one of her gonads, they would both have a pair”. If this story is tru, that person was corect indeed.

  365. Anon

    On May 7, 2011 at 10:02 pm


    This may be consistent with what has been observed over the history of this country with various presidents. Namely – senators tend not to make good presidents, because they\’re used to obtaining consensus on everything and never had to make an executive decision. On the other hand, governors tend to make good presidents, because they have executive experience. Obama and Biden are senators with no executive experience.

  366. Trent

    On May 7, 2011 at 11:06 pm


    Watched a CNN interview today that had a guest saying that it was very possible that Obama was warned that if he didn’t act on the info about Osama the public would find out and he would take a huge hit in the polls. This person said that if Republicans knew about it, and that is pretty possible for the ones on the military related committies, Obama had no choice but to act. This person also said that the overall timeline indicates that even then OBama still took a long time deciding. This is also supported by a UK story that says he backed off the mission because he wanted to “sleep on it”. That would seem to jive with much of what this insider said. Which was said before any of these other reports came out. Hmmm. Who are you insider? You seem to be deep into the mess that is the Obama joke fest of a president. Still not sure if insider is eneny or friend but he/she defintely has the goods on Obama. Really enjoy reading about it.

  367. fasteddie

    On May 8, 2011 at 1:32 am


    BColes, you are ranting about all the wealthy Repbulicans.
    How many Hollyweird celebrities do you think are Republicans?
    How many NBA players are Rep?
    How many NFL players are Rep?
    Is John Kerry (and his Heinz Ketchup wife) wealthy?
    Is Nancy Pelosi wealthy?
    Was Teddy Kennedy and the rest of the clan, wealthy?
    How did BHO become so wealthy so quickly? He didn’t have a real job.
    Why is it that Dems always rant about Republicans being the wealthy ones?
    BHO is going to raise a Billion dollars to get re-elected. Will ANY wealthy people contribute to his campaign or only folks on welfare? Why would he spend that kind of money for a job that pays $ 400K
    He didn’t make a decision on the oil spill for almost a month.
    He read a teleprompter while talking to 3rd graders.
    He is giving money so S. America can invest in oil exploration since we don’t need jobs here in the USA.
    What has he done except run up the deficit in record numbers?
    Why do you think he is qualified for the job?

    Notice I didn’t call you a name or curse. Look back and take a poll of the responses and see who is into the name calling on this thread.
    God help America because we need it now more than ever.

  368. MathGuy

    On May 8, 2011 at 1:44 am


    I just checked

    http://www.worldweatheronline.com/weather.aspx?q=AAW&day=21

    and the weather in Abbottabad, Pakistan from 8:00 PM April 29, 2011 through 5:00 AM April 30, 2011 looked pretty tame. Temperatures ranged from 64 F to 55 F, cloud cover ranged from 9% to 30%, a sprinkle of rain fell (0.14 in. total), and winds averaged 9-11 mph, with gusts between 19 and 23 mph. I sure wouldn’t have aborted the raid originally scheduled for 24 hours earlier based on weather conditions in Abbottabad. (The raid that got Osama arrived in Abbottabad at 1:10 AM local time on Sunday, May 1.) I don’t know where in Afghanistan the U.S. helicopters originated, but if anyone wants to check the weather at some likely bases, please post the results here.

  369. Seriously

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:41 am


    I have always been aware that both the far right wing and far left wing nutjobs have their websites and radio/television shows that serve as echo chambers for their lunacy. After the last 10 years of observing America’s political culture, I did not believe there was room to surprise me any more.

    But this post (and particularly the comments that come afterward) have truly shocked me. First, do you people really think that Valerie Jarrett, whose position is ‘Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs” has any idea what the CIA is doing in Pakistan??! Do you think any random Joe Blo in the White House has access to that kind of information? Have any of you people heard of “Classified” information?? This article is downright hilarious.

    The most intriguing part of this article is that someone actually took the time to write it. Someone who has so little to do in his life and who is stewing with hatred for the man that was elected in a landslide to be our 44th President, sat in his dark apartment and (laughably badly) pretended to be an ‘insider’ and wrote FOUR PAGES of total fiction. What kind of deranged, twisted creature would spend his time doing this??

    You may disagree with his approach, but our President is trying to make this a better country for all of us, just as the previous President Bush did, and President Clinton before him. If you people were true patriots, as you claim to be – perhaps you should go out and volunteer your time to help our veterans, our poor, our sick, or other fellow citizens in need. Speak with your Congressman and be an activist for the causes in which you believe. But quit with the angry, hate-mongering, for the love of everything decent!

  370. Roshea1956

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:46 am


    Gee my heart bleeds for Obama having 2 deal w/Osama buddies death, probably cried. Meanwhile Obama and his buddie Ahmadinejad r killing opposition 2 their world order in the Middle East. People wake up! World Order has 2 B formed! Obama handles the EU who he calls frequently & they listen 2 him, Ahmadinejad handles M.E. pushing us 2 NWO. Goal: Islamic world. What average people need 2 do is hunt down & get rid of the world leaders that r killing the people who just want 2 live in peace. But we won’t. We r like lambs 2 the slaughter. Believe me Obama would have no trouble killing any Americans if he could b dictator w/his Black Panther thugs. America is in trouble and we don’t see the writing on the wall, so is Israel

  371. MathGuy

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:55 am


    Oops! Abbottabad is 9 hours ahead of Washington, DC so I was wrong in my last post. The raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound began around 1:10 AM on MONDAY, MAY 2. The world weather site I mentioned shows even better weather conditions in Abbottabad from 8:00 PM April 30 through 5:00 AM May 1. An attack scheduled for 24 hours earlier than it actually occurred would never have been canceled due to weather conditions in Abbottabad.

    ObamaHesitated (May 4, 2011 at 5:08 PM): Thanks for the hard data regarding Obama’s schedule on the day of the attack on bin Laden’s compound.

    1lumpor2 (May 5, 2011 at 2:29 PM): Thanks for the facts about the helicopters that were used and the Kandahar-to-Abbottabad flight times. This, together with ObamaHesitated’s data, almost certainly puts Obama on the golf course at the time the attack was launched.

    Been There, Done That (May 4, 2011 at 7:47 PM): Thanks for your comments on the “layout” shown in the WH situation room photo. I, too, thought that Obama looked like a “peripheral player”. However, I’ve never been in a military operational meeting so it was good to hear it from you.

  372. Andrew Plummer

    On May 8, 2011 at 3:29 am


    This report claims that Valerie Jarrett did not allow President Obama to decide and act to remove BenLadin. This event happened by the clever action of Leon Panetta and General Petreaus who were operating not in disobedience but in a vacuum of presidential direction. Leon Panetta is the head of the CIA and confirmed by advice and consent of the Congress. Valerie Jarrett is a Senior Advisor acting without portfolio. Her reported reasons are all political. She is a politico. She serves merely at the will of the President. Leon Panetta has at his disposal the best intelligence in the known world. He is one step below a cabinet member and has been vetted by the Congress, the voice of the people. If it is true that a politico responsible and having experience only in domestic and political issues can stymie the Commander and Chief, I do not want to know about it. I do not want our enemies to know about it. A good time for this information to be released is the week before a Presidential election. Any other time, to know this, would be destabilizing to the safety of the world. A President of the United States that is not free to act is unsafe.

  373. Anna Ski

    On May 8, 2011 at 5:07 am


    All these political figures have a role to portray to this world, what goes on behind closed doors, no-one knows only them.
    Gees, who’s next Mr Panetta, you of all people together with Obama conspire, has justice been served or are there still more?

  374. Madgie

    On May 8, 2011 at 6:18 am


    How sad that people actually believe this horsecrap – citing Valerie Jarrett who is Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement who has NOTHING to do with and NEVER would have anything to do with a CIA/SEAL raid, would make it more laughable if it wasn’t so embarrasing for our country to have most of you people trying so hard to want to believe it. There is no valid source or valid links – but don’t get that in the way of your hate. UnAmerican, much?

    I know this day and age you don’t want to come out completely on why you hate Obama because it doesn’t square factually for the usual reasons.

    Who ever wrote this crock should have just gone shorter: “I can’t accept the fact that Obama is President and a black man is running the country”.

  375. Christopher

    On May 8, 2011 at 7:43 am


    Interesting story. One piece of the puzzle that makes me want to believe it is the fact that BO was golfing up until the start of the raid. Had he been aware the mission was underway and if this mission failed, he would have been laughed out of office for playing golf while a fatal mission was getting underway. You would think he wouldn’t want to have been seen catching more R and R on such an infamous day. (Recall the cheapshots his party took at W for ‘reading stories to schoolchildren’ while NY was being attacked.)

  376. kachonka

    On May 8, 2011 at 7:48 am


    Who cares if the story is 100 percent true. obama is such a wimp, he takes orders from the UN. If you forgot about obama sissying out to the UN over Libya, I would have to assume you would never believe he sissied out to military advisors from his more powerful country also.
    This guy sissied out to Mexico and Brazil for Christ sakes. He bows to subordinates. The guy is an idiot, has no leadership skills and in the photo, he looks like someone ran over a puppy he was planning to eat for dinner.

  377. Gstall

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:19 am


    Well, he DOES have a golf shirt on under his jacket.

  378. Steve Mann

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:28 am


    Just as we ALL have known; Obama is nothing short of an empty suit. This account at least gives me some sort of assurance that there are some people who have leadership ability and will that is, at least in some small part, driving the bus. Obama’s lack of engagement is so sweetly illustrated in that they had to pull him off the golf course to brief him, and his mouth piece speech writer had his address to the American people already loaded into the telepromter. The “Commander In Chief” had to simply read the teleprompter, as always.

    The American people are slowly waking up to this historic nightmare!!

  379. Jon D.

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:45 am


    My GOD! This whole thing reads like a “Clancy” novel! Hey- – the cretin is dead- – - enjoy that fact. I for one think the current POTUS is something of a fraud. Being a Viet-Nam vet of two tours, I cannot and will not forgive his stupidity and regard in how he relates to our military and to the veterans who have provided him the opportinity (sp) to be where he is. I believe that he has disgraced our country by his actions and words. He will pay for his actions one way or another, they all do! Perhaps St.Peter will hand him a golf club and invite him to a warmer clime.

    Someone should have listened to Col. North all those years ago. They blew him off and we paid for that. Perhaps the current leaders remembered the Colonel and what he said during the congressional hearing.

    At any rate, the deed has been done, Thanks- – - – - at least someone had the “Paltas” to make it happen.

  380. Delia

    On May 8, 2011 at 12:30 pm


    I know during the Somali pirates holding the American captain the president had insisted the SEALS stand down and negotiate. They were ordered NOT to shoot. Remember they then shot all of the bad guys and saved the American captain. I verified that was the truth, I have not yet verified this but I am betting it is. Obama is still in gold clothes LOL What a joke. For the record I am pro peace and want all our troops brought home and our borders secured. Lets stop letting them into our nation where they can harm American citizens. 100,000 pissed of Afghanis in Afghanistan is no threat to us, 10 in the USA can kill many more Americans. Terrorists should be treated as the Barbary Pirates were, as outlined by Thomas Jefferson they are the reason we have a Navy and he owned a Koran. As Regan said when he brought our troops home from the middle east we can never understand the irrationality of those people. They have been killing each other for 4000 years. We can not stop them.

  381. Jason Marcel

    On May 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm


    You have to be very weary of websites such as these, since they demonstrate how the neo-con, right-wing mentality works where they just make stuff up in their minds and then convince themselves it is true, even if it’s not.

    In the 2008 campaign debates, when asked whether “you would as President go into a sovereign nation like Pakistan in order to take out Osama Bin Laden unilaterally”, Sen. McCain said “No” while Sen. Obama said “Yes”.

    This President talked about putting the focus back on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda three years ago, and all the real evidence we’re getting about this mission now is that the President and his intel and military team planned it out meticulously over the past 8 months. The President didn’t want this to end up being just another botched helicopter mission where the right-wing idiots would shout “Jimmy Carter” for the next 18 months, and that’s why intel sources and military analysts have said that Obama was very involved every step of the way, forcing people to go over things a number of times in order to try make things as flawless as possible.

    The result of all that planning? The most overwhelmingly successful foreign policy mission for the US in decades. The right-wing weirdos are simply jealous because their guy talked tough but didn’t get the guy, while starting two wars they also couldn’t win, while this guy winds down Iraq, and in one weekend kills Gaddafi’s kid and kills Osama Bin Laden Chicago-gangster style: bullet in the head, body in the water.

    Left, right or center, this has been a great week for all Americans, and President Obama deserves all the credit he gets since he said he was going to do this, and now he has done it.

    Suck on that, chickenhawk neo-con weirdos who can’t win wars….

  382. Jim Prentice

    On May 8, 2011 at 1:09 pm


    There is a high probability that the information in this article is true and correct but it is always prudent to hold judgement until there is absolute first hand knowledge. Since we do not know who the “White House Insider” is then I consider the information useless. Are there other ways to conform the info in the article? I’m not in the loop of people who have access to such information so I don’t know.

    Until it is conformed with substantive proof I consider it rumor or misleading info.

    I am not a fan of “Obama” and think that his qualifications for holding the office of President of the United States need to be vetted out, but just because I do not like someone does not give me or anyone else license to malign them. — Jim

  383. priyadarshani

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm


    Good article

  384. Michael Kud-Kudijaroff

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:24 pm


    Last e-mail entry from Osama Bin Laden.

    “BRB someone is knocking on my door”

  385. JUSTICEforALL

    On May 8, 2011 at 2:35 pm


    OH, GOODY! At least now Obama has a scapegoat if the UN says this was a war crime! How about these changes on April 27th? US President Barack Obama has nominated Gen David Petraeus, the US head of international forces in Afghanistan, as the new CIA director and has named the agency’s chief, Leon Panetta, as head of the Pentagon.

    Coincidence?

  386. wayfarer

    On May 8, 2011 at 5:22 pm


    No wonder Obama seemed so at ease when the planning was underway to kill Bin Laden, he didn’t know anything about it! Cannot believe Jarrete can tell obama what he can & cannot do! does this go all the way to the Obama’s bedroom???? Jarrette neds to fired or tried for treason!!!

  387. Terrya

    On May 8, 2011 at 6:30 pm


    Too many details not to be a true accounting. Again, Obama can claim he was “present”. This has all the makings of a block-buster movie, if only the left-wing Hollywood gang would make it. Doubtful.

  388. CHAR LAZARO

    On May 8, 2011 at 7:41 pm


    A HOLLYWOOD DRAMA WITH A DUMMY PRESIDENT

  389. MCFergy

    On May 8, 2011 at 8:31 pm


    Ulsterman… you really hit it out of the park with this one, whether the \\\”White House Insider\\\” has a material body or is a creation of your imagination. Your readership \\\”necessarily skyrocketed,\\\” via Osama Bin Laden.

    Fact @ Serious; he/she doesn\\\’t know much about Auntie Valerie and her magic coat-tails, which Michelle & Barack rode on through the streets of Chicago; into the upper business class, board appointments, and political upper-crust. (And even with some of Chicago\\\’s most notorious.)

    Auntie Valerie may not attend \\\”classified\\\” meetings, too many out of the circle, but I\\\’m quite certain the Lt. from Chicago is privey to many things a normal \\\”Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs” have access too.

    PS. If the \\\”White House Insider\\\” is in fact real, you may want to watch your back on this one. FN. I\\\’m betting the \\\”Insider\\\” is going to put it on ice for a bit, if not for good.

  390. torquepilot

    On May 8, 2011 at 8:46 pm


    Basically two sources. Checkout today’s article be ex-cia on “No Quarter.

  391. Darfur Deng

    On May 8, 2011 at 9:03 pm


    Whether true are not, it sure gets the ignorant Baby Butchering, Racist Liberal Nazi Gutter Trash squealing like a bunch of stuck pigs, what a hoot!!!

    I guess anything that will detract from the absurdly laughable fake Birth Record serves as a positive distraction, so Obama’s Brain Dead Koolie Slaves can regroup to cover up yet another one of Obama’s Infamous Lies.

    I guess it’s time to fire up the old “Who Wacks This Lying Racist Bigot First” office pool.
    1) Mossad
    2) Al-CIAeda
    3) A Delusional Cave Dwelling Goat Herder
    4) Usama’s 1st Ghost
    5) Usama’s 2nd Ghost
    6) Barry Soebarkah
    7) Barry Soetoro
    8) Jimmy Hoffa on the way to a Golf Course
    9) A Teeny Tiny Asteroid on a Golf Course
    10) All the above, plus Julian Assange

    Enquiring minds really need to maybe kinda sorta have to know?

  392. Archy Cary

    On May 8, 2011 at 9:16 pm


    This needs confirmation to be accepted as the truth. Something this important should not fall on an unnamed source.

  393. Harry

    On May 8, 2011 at 9:56 pm


    An “untouchable” political Insider would be Hillary and company..Not even a Chicago corruptocracy product like Valerie Jarrett could neutralize her. My money is on Hillary, she is not done running for the prize..

  394. Jim Doolittle

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm


    Isn’t it interesting how libs deny this report. Now let’s ask them. WHY was Panetta reassigned? DUH!
    Hmmmm…

  395. ExIntOff

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:26 pm


    Either the product of the very fertile imagination of one that has been close to the action or a highly factual rendition of events. Some experience with people that operate in that world and the minimal evidence suggest the latter.

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  397. pandora01

    On May 8, 2011 at 10:53 pm


    The one “untouchable” WH Insider is Hillary Clinton and Company. Even a product of the Chicago corruptocracy – Valeri Jarret – could not neutralize a Clinton. Hillary is not done running.

    A Propos the custom outfitted Blackberry that Obama cannot live without – I suspect it is the life line to his mentor and “Co-Author” Bill Ayers.

  398. Kevin Mac

    On May 8, 2011 at 11:57 pm


    Like to see Bob Woodward corroborate this, and he will get to truth if this indeed happened this way. This could be the 2011 version of Watergate. At least Panetta and H. Clinton has some stones. Lot of time passed between the MSM all cleaned up waiting in their suits on a late Sunday night and the time the President finally got his speech together. That was a smoking gun too-no pun intended.

  399. Ringo

    On May 9, 2011 at 1:06 am


    It would be obvious that 99.9% of you contributors know nothing about Military Structure, National Defense, National Security, let along anything about Special Forces (Green Berets) or Special Operations Forces; which BTW includes the Green Berets and SEALS, along with the Rangers, Delta Force, USMC Force Recon, and the USAF’s Air Commando.

    FWIW, the Green Berets were the ones who trained the SEALS for this operation. Anyone who was alive during the Vietnam War, and those years following, would remember the Green Beret Raid on the Son Tay POW Compound, in North Vietnam. The SEAL Raid on Osama’s fortress, was conducted in the same manner, to include the loss of one each chopper.

    Normal Navy SEAL Training does not include air/ground assault operations. However, some are HALO qualified and do conduct High Altitude Low Opening operations. SF runs the only HALO School, and trains the SEALS as well as other Special Ops Guys. SF is already trained and do teach others how to conduct Water, Air, Land Infiltrations and combat assaults.

    FWIW, I was a member of the Quiet Professional/Silent Warriors, back before the Green Beret became our official head gear. During my time I accreed 7 years teaching our Tacticts and Techniques, between tours in combat zones…….Ringo

  400. Gold Beach Biker

    On May 9, 2011 at 1:44 am


    Has anone sent this info/piece on to Sean Hannity and O’Reilly?

  401. Darrel

    On May 9, 2011 at 1:50 am


    Contrast the unsourced lies in the above ridiculous smear piece with this interview today with Obama’s National Security advisor, on ABC\’s This Week:

    “And I\’ve served three presidents, as you know. And you watch the president take this in. He chaired five National Security Council meetings in six weeks. Take all that in, say, I\’m not going to make my decision now, I\’ll tell you my decision tomorrow, stand up, walk out of the Situation Room, go down that colonnade that you know so well by the Rose Garden to his residence, and make that decision.

    And this is what we ask of our president. And I think in this case the president was well served by the process, and we\’re well served by his decision.”

    abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-tom-donilon

    It is unpatriotic and disgraceful to pass along such blatant lies about the president.

  402. Joe Blow

    On May 9, 2011 at 2:32 am


    The author and people who believe this BS are Sicko, Sicko, Sicko. They are racists and will believe or make up any sick story to make President Obama look bad. The bastards can’t stand it that Obama pulled off what Clinton and Bush could not accomplish. He did it right. He appointed Pannetta and he had the right advisers. Obama made the decision ALONE after getting input from different staff sources. There were different opinions presented by his staffers but Obama alone made decision alone! No wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket. We have some people in the US who will spread lies and not have compunction nor guilt about spreading filth, distrust and sick fiction. Shame on you .

  403. Rickya

    On May 9, 2011 at 3:10 am


    With the corroboration from Larry Johnson who has extensive contacts in the CIA being an former analyst in the CIA in the Directorate of Intelligence, Ulsterman’s White House Insider gains so much credibility. Those who deny the truth of this account need to open their eyes and stop drinking the koolaid.

  404. Ken

    On May 9, 2011 at 10:04 am


    If any picture says 1000 words the situation room picture says a million words. Obama was a bit part player in that picture. Give the bit part player the worse seat in the room. Face the fact that this a man is simply not a great leader. He is a good family man and a great speaker, but he is NOT a leader. After reading dozens of the comments I really am enjoying the moaning and crying from liberals about this “right wing conservative” piece. This piece is a minor fragment as compared to the liberal barrage that the “main stream” media spews out every day.
    The story is way too plausible to be very far from the truth. How tough a decision would this have been for Truman, Eisenhower, or Regan? Not tough at all for real leaders of our country. I think even Hillbillary would not have struggled in giving the go.
    It is a testimony to the strength of our nation that we can carry on even while we are without decent leadership.
    P S I wouldn’t want to mess with the Navy Seals. Great job guys!!

  405. Ken

    On May 9, 2011 at 10:10 am


    Classey on your part Joe Blow. Play the race card when there is no racial element to this story. Obama does not need anyone to do anything to make him look bad. He does a masterfull job of that all by himself.

  406. Mom

    On May 9, 2011 at 10:25 am


    @ Darrell ~ re: “It is unpatriotic and disgraceful to pass along such blatant lies about the president.”

    That’s never stopped the Left. So don’t be a crybaby now. If it’s a lie, the truth will emerge. If it’s not, I doubt your sort would ever admit it.

  407. dave

    On May 9, 2011 at 11:21 am


    As a former intelligence analyst who has actually briefed James Clapper, anytime there is a contingency or a briefing in the situation room, the highest ranking individual regardless whether it is military or civilian, will sit at the head of the table. From my perspective, Obama should have been sitting where the General is, at the head of that table, instead he is relegated to the side, not even at the table. Biden, Clinton, and others have more prominent positions. Body language can reveal alot. There is no respect for him in that room. He is on the sidelines, supporting cast member, but will take all of the credit.

  408. Frederico

    On May 9, 2011 at 11:43 am


    All of the liberal trash on this site who do what liberal trash always do, name-calling, misdirection and other forms of elementary “strategies” that show their uneducated and completely stupid true selves…..shove it. You people are exactly what is wrong with America today. The Navy Seals could have shown you a direct order from Pannetta and then killed usama right in front of you….and you would still claim that obama killed osama all by himself. Liberals are the most hypocritical, lying, self-serving, destructive, wrong thinking, annoying children who do not deserve to live in the U.S.A.
    You people do not deserve a place here in the U.S. You people deserve a place in Haiti, or in Yemen, or in Iran where your ridiculous way of thinking will at least make a little bit of sense to the people who live there. Of course, they will behead you. But you do not deserve to live here. As for this article, yep…I believe it because I have seen obama enjoying being President as though it is just a game. His socialist thinking and his love for islamists is so evident that real Americans see it and will vote his half-black arse out next year. I sure will do my part. I want Herman Cain and Alan West to run for the GOP nomination. They make perfect sense, and are FIT to hold the office of the people. Obama is just enjoying the fame and fortune of being president, and BTW…why does this pig Jarrett have the control and power that she has? She is a nobody and is Unqualified to be in the position she’s in. Neither her OR obama are qualified to make ANY decisions regarding our military. She needs to go, and before next year when her puppet boss finally goes away. So much for the liberal accusation of “racism”….which they toss around like candy when it suits them.

  409. annas2

    On May 9, 2011 at 1:07 pm


    To the person that keeps screaming that it’s not legal to overrule a President…………..errrrrm, tell that to President Wilson’s wife.
    ******* Page 2 of http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/presidents_and_first_ladies/27897/2

    “…Edith used her position as Wilson’s wife to control access to the president. She read all papers and documents, and decided which would go to the president and which people would see the president. In this way, she decided which issues would be dealt with, and which issues would not. Since she controlled which papers would or would not be signed, and was almost the only advisor seeing the president, she exerted an unusually strong influence on government policy.

    During this period, the cabinet was forbidden to meet, although they met unofficially to conduct some business. Later, Wilson fired his Secretary of State when he found out the cabinet had a meeting without his authorization. Vice President Marshall declined to take any initiative to fill in for the president. This meant that the only business done was whatever Edith Wilson allowed.

    Critics called her “the first woman president.” In her memoirs, My Memoir, Edith Wilson called this her “stewardship” and insisted emphatically that her husband’s doctor had urged this course upon her….”******

  410. John

    On May 9, 2011 at 1:18 pm


    I wondered why there were so many different stories coming out of the White House. You can’t have that many people in the know and keep all their stories straight. This story makes the most sense. Golf shirt and all.

  411. Roshtra

    On May 9, 2011 at 2:09 pm


    Really great article, full of information. I think osama is dead though.

  412. Dr. Den

    On May 9, 2011 at 3:01 pm


    This site is apparently a forum on ones political slant! Charge and counter-charge. Gives many of you a chance to, “Sound-OFF”, with your own personal vindictiveness and begin a,”Faceless” charade with someone you’ve never met. Who knows what is true and what is false! Certainly none writing in this Blog! Has BHO been a decisive leader and decision-maker? Your answer will depend on your political persuasion. Is he a product of the, “Mob” in Chicago? Does he want to lead this country into bankruptcy? Was he born in this country? Why is he obviously beginning a political campaign after only two unremarkable years in office instead of, “Tending the store”?
    Was he golfing instead of doing his job? Is he usurping someone elses decision making and claiming it as his own? Does he have the experience and ability to do the job? Were most of his votes in the Illinois legislature, “Present”, only?
    I could go on and on ad nosium. I can ask these questions because I live in America! We are ALL Americans! You can do what you do, including the comments written here, because you are an American and live in America! Try doing this in China! Freedom of speech is something out Founding Fathers placed in our Constitution becaue it was not allowed in England, Europe, Russia, and much of the remainder of the world in the time my ancestors decided, “ENOUGH”! “I want freedom!” and left on frail ships to brave the unknown to find it!
    BE VERY HAPPY YOU ARE AN AMERICAN! PROTECT HER AND HER CONSTITUTION!!! Take Care…………..Dr. Den

  413. John

    On May 9, 2011 at 4:36 pm


    Dr Den,

    If you can’t look around you and answer most of the questions that you have asked, there is not anyone who could convince you that anything is wrong until the stuff hits the fan and every dollar you posess turns to ass wipe.

    Your form of blabber is no different from anyone else’s.

  414. Headlight

    On May 9, 2011 at 4:54 pm


    Actually, the Navy SEALs couldn’t show a direct order from Panetta. The SEALs are not under the command of the CIA — they are under the Secretary of Defense, or the President.

    Since this article first appeared, there has been plenty of reporting about REAL White House insiders. There was disagreement within the White House, and as the President said on 60 minutes, there was a very significant downside to going in — they had only circumstantial evidence that bin Laden was in the compound, and going after this target would require a combat operation deep within the sovereign territory of a country with which we are not at war.

    The problems with this post are pretty obvious — the person who is supposed to be a “White House insider” simply has too much information, coming from too many high level sources, and in particular is quoting the substance of conversation that took place between the head of the CIA and the Secretary of State. Do you honestly think either of these two are relating the substance of their conversation to others? Particularly, are they gossiping to others in the White House about how passive the President is? I’m pretty sure that if they have these thoughts, they keep them to themselves.

    But more significantly, this course of action precisely matches everything that Obama complained about with Bush during the campaign. He opposed the Iraq war as a distraction. He took political heat from Clinton for saying that he’d take unilateral action in Pakistan if he had actionable intelligence, and Pakistan wouldn’t go in themselves. Considering the extreme security bin Laden had in place in his specially made terrorist headquarters, Obama had every reason to consider all sides before sending our toughest, smartest special operations unit in harm’s way — but in the end, according to multiple sources, Obama gave the order. In doing so, he put everything on the line on a calculated risk — and it paid off. It’s sad that people like you, Fred, can’t accept reality and have to believe obvious forgeries like this . . . but after all, if we didn’t have gullible right wing dittoheads, Fox News would have to close its doors.

  415. Conservative Grandma

    On May 9, 2011 at 5:02 pm


    Barracin Husane Obama is a figure head and is not qualified to make educated decisions of this magnitude. Thankfully, others are in place in our military for our safety.
    Historically Husane will be the one that caused financial suffering for generations to come. His actions speak for themselves. He may or may not realize that he is destroying our country from within and hopefully we will be able to survive his administration.
    I take it personally that his health care is trying to force me to be a partaker of murder with his abortion clause. Where is our freedom?

  416. BlueDog Refugee

    On May 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm


    @Joe Blow…guzzle, guzzel, guzzel…Ha! Haa! Haaaaaaaaa! you are so funny!!!

    Of course we know it’s just all that Koolie Slave Juice you Racist Liberal Nazis are forced to guzzel down just so you can stomach listening to all the ignorant gutter garbage Chrissie and Maddcow spew during their round the clock pseudo intellectual racist diatribe.

    Be careful though, if you feel a furrowing tingle running up your leg, that’s not normal, no matter how much Uncle Chrissie claims it to be. Seek serious medication, and stay away from little boys and alcohol, no matter what Chrissie says.

    Also, please remember that MaddCow is really a disease that requires lots of shots to avoid contracting, so pleeaseee consult your local Vet or 4H Club before tuning in. Of course you could just as easily take the one to the head cure all shot, which is available at any local gun show, or rural Walmart.

    Only in America can disagreeing with an ignorant moron warrant us Black Folks the privilege of being labeled as Racist, by the Progressive False African Racists of the New Liberal Nazi Party.

    Some of us choose not to cherry pick the truth from history. Meaning, not all of us are stupid enough to sell ourselves, much less the futures of our children into the despotic institution of Demo-Fed Entitlement Slavery.

    It’s not just our ancestors who were sold-out, and killed off by their own kind. We’re awake, and we fully intend to stay that way.

    As for Pasty Face Chrissie, MaddCow and the Obama’s, they wouldn’t know a Racist Bigot if they saw one staring back at them in a mirror.

    We’re honored to be Americans first, tough as a $2 steak, and Black thereafter, and for all those who don’t like it, that’s just $2 TOUGH!

  417. venturen

    On May 9, 2011 at 8:45 pm


    It shows how democrats mindset works…they don’t care whether Osama is caught it is all posturing on who to blame if something goes wrong. The people running the country disgust me! They are cowards and feel free to let soldiers DIE for their cowardice. Obama and your crew are the lowest form of life!

  418. Right is Right

    On May 9, 2011 at 9:07 pm


    To MOM…..You hit the nail on the head! Kuddos!!

  419. James Joyner

    On May 9, 2011 at 9:43 pm


    The fact that Obama is an islamic by birth or otherwise and also a friend of the Phakastan leadI I’ m opting to believe that he did hesitate all along and that the article as written was at least mostly truth.

  420. pandora01

    On May 9, 2011 at 9:50 pm


    Ditto,brother! BlueDog Refugee,May 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm

  421. Leaf Garrett

    On May 10, 2011 at 2:58 am


    You racist rednecks are hilarious. The ignorance, the xenophobia, the anger, the horrendous spelling — it’s like a special needs bus crashing into a Wal-Mart To think that 15 years ago none of you even knew what a computer was — never mind how to use one — yet here you all are typing angry, racist, paranoid missive with your sausage fingers between huffs of pudding and nacho cheese, to the delight and amusement of many. Keep up the good work, folks! USA, USA, USA…

  422. John Arvin

    On May 10, 2011 at 3:42 am


    Admit it democrat liberals….you are all cowards. The difference in this case is Leon Panetta stopped being a democrat for once in his life because the real Americans at the CIA convinced him with logic and reason to do the right thing and he knew deep down they were right.

  423. Allan

    On May 10, 2011 at 5:00 am


    My interpretation of that famous photograph is
    that Obama obviously came (or was brought) into the room
    after the others had assembled.

    Otherwise
    he naturally would have sat in the armchair
    at the head of the table.

  424. jim

    On May 10, 2011 at 6:05 am


    This wouldn’t surprise me as it sounds like Obama. Don’t know if it\’s true, but based on history and Obama’s limited experience in such matters I would not consider this as just simple political propaganda. Obama is not an aggressive person and this could very well be an example. To think at a time of crises and he\’s on the golf course. Don\’t think he really knows his priorities. God forbid, if he should get in for another four years.

  425. Mimi

    On May 10, 2011 at 10:14 am


    After reading most of the comments, one can easily tell those that do not want to work for a living, but want the government to take care of them. Foul language is not necessary and lends itself to a very angry person.

    Watching and listening to radio and TV since the OBL (UBL) demise made me ask some questions. How many different stories have come out about this since it happened? One commenter listed a bunch. Just scanning some of the comments, I did not see anyone mention that Ms. Hillary LIED to the American people on National TV. I heard her say that Pakistan was involved in this execution!! So, sorry, NO kudos to her!!

    Obama has done NOTHING during his time in office to persuade me that he is a man of decision, especially a quick decision. ALL that was said about Jarrett and her background is definitely true. She’s been written about since the beginning. I do not look at her as a trustworthy person. So again, look at the folks Obama surrounds himself with.

    Having questions, I sent an email to some online friends of mine asking if they thought I was crazy for my thoughts. I just received this article today. The article is exactly in line with my thinking after all the “different” stories that have come out. And completely in line with Obama’s past actions.

    Obama knows he’s in trouble. He has lied and lied – over and over again. He is trying to ruin this great Country by placing us into such deep debt. He refuses to DO anything about it – although I have actually HEARD him say we cannot live under this debt. Well, duh, there are LOTS of things he could eliminate in order to get the ball rolling. BUT, he refuses to do so! It is my opinion that Obama has taken credit for this action just to garner votes. Completely in line with all that he did during his campaign which has been going on now since ‘08.

    We will probably NEVER know the whole story. It’s called “National Security”. After hearing all the different stories, I had to rely on my own feelings that something wasn’t quite right. One could say this about ALL of Obama’s time in office, which he never should have gotten in the first place. His lack of experience has shown since day ONE.

    It’s a sad day in America when people who claim to be Americans actually defend this man. I’ve been around for quite a while and now can say with certainty that Obama is truly WORSE than Carter….and Carter is still a nut job. And, if you people truly believe in and like Obama, please go somewhere OTHER than America. You are showing your true colors, just like he is. There are plenty of Socialist countries out there that would just love to run your life too. Then (when you go), and only then, will everyone be happy. We have our Liberty loving Country and you have your lives being run by someone else that will be happy to support you.

    Great article. Good information for anyone with enough Common Sense to understand what may have really gone down in this incident. Respect does not come to those that out and out LIE to the American people.

  426. Jim Thatcher

    On May 10, 2011 at 10:46 am


    While this account seems plausible, why haven’t I seen it discussed on Fox (I would not expect to see it on “mainstream media”.
    lkeeperjim

  427. You're A Bunch of Idiots

    On May 10, 2011 at 11:38 am


    Wow. You people will believe anything. I saw it on the Internet! It must be true. Yikes.

  428. Kelly

    On May 10, 2011 at 11:47 am


    I wouldn’t go so far as to pass this article along, but it does ring true to me. The photo has always puzzled me. Why is the President off to the side…looking scared? Confused? Like he’s going to cry? Whatever it is, he doesn’t look like the one in control.

  429. ruler777

    On May 10, 2011 at 11:55 am


    If this is true, thank goodness for Democrats that can make a decision like Hillary Clinton!

  430. Artist

    On May 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm


    I LOVE the pain you loons are feeling, having Obama as your President. Enjoy 6 more years of suffering! :)

  431. maenad25

    On May 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm


    It\’s interesting to note that former President Bush also hesitated to act after receiving intelligence about a possible terrorist attack in 2001.

  432. Kelly

    On May 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm


    maenad25, yeah, because so many big terrorist attacks were always happening on american soil. and wow, there was so much detailed information for him to go on. Try again.

  433. RJ

    On May 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm


    Lets see, no names mentioned, not covered by any credible news source, (CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBS, TIME, NEWSWEEK,etc). Only shows up on blogs, some with long history of lies. Plus, in direct conflict with accounts given by named participants…I’d say this turkey don’t fly.

  434. Matt

    On May 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm


    UK media one of the first to support this story. Obama dithered for almost two days “shocking military officials” when he said he “wanted to sleep on it” Rush Limbaugh took parts of this story and discussed a bit. WSJ had an accounting of delays and uncertainty in the admnistration. The split between Panetta and Obama on the releasing of the death photo is well documented in the mainstream media. Hillary refuses to attend Ground Zero Obama ceremony. There have been about 20 different versions coming out of the White House about what really happened. This further substantiates some of the things talked about in the insider version. NBC radio affliliate had ex-CIA guest on who fully supported this version almost word for word. Yeah, keep trying to deflect the facts there Obama lovers. Your guy has years of not making a decision. Years of taking forever to make a call. And now suddenly we are supposed to believe he was leading on this one? Hell no. The guy is a vote present politician of the worst kind. Thank you to Leon Panetta and Hillary Clinton for making sure the job got done!

  435. Radman

    On May 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm


    Good summation Matt. I agree that if this story is not at least half true, the author has certainly done an incredible job of profiling the personalities of all the principals involved…and matched them perfectly to their alleged behavior during this mission.

    Further it would not surprise me that some administration insider (probably not one of BHO’s inner circle from Chicago) has come to the realization that this president constitutes a “clear and present danger” to the economic survival of America; and that his planned “fundamental tranformation” must be stopped at any cost. Maybe some day we’ll know the truth…not only about this story, but also about the pretty and articulate snake oil salesman we foolishly elected.

  436. GUEST FROM FLORIDA

    On May 10, 2011 at 6:35 pm


    I find the liberal response quite humorous here, the anger and hatred of anyone who differ’s in opinions is amazing. I will not speak for the article and its claims, but this President is not doing a good job when it comes to running our country. That is obvious to a growning number of Americans.

  437. torquepilot

    On May 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm


    Ex-cia Larry Johnson has been interviewed on the John Batchelor Show on WABC and said this \”Insider-Ulsterman\” report according to his contacts, is 80% correct.

    CHEERS!!

  438. Wayne McMichael

    On May 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm


    When will you whiners quit blaming everything on Bush. That is soooo typical of the left, the inability to take responsibility for their own failures and dysfunction. It’s ok, we will still take care of you:)

  439. lowell leach

    On May 10, 2011 at 10:54 pm


    this is exactly what i laid on facebook friends when they asked why I didnt give obummer any credit for the kill.. bush laid the foundation and the military leaders were on a mission to proceed as the machine they are.. the order was given sept 12 2001 and never changed, except for the interference from libs and democrats that stand in our way even today. as Obama laughs with Illegals in El Paso texas and says the idiots of America wont be happy til they build a moat along the border and they’ll probably want to fill it with alligators ..so to you the Illegals that want to come I say come I will fight the Americans until WE (i assume he’s speaking for all democrats ) can exact amnesty. President my ass American my ass, i say traitor and spinless .. I say IMPEACH THE SCUM NOW

  440. New Ole

    On May 11, 2011 at 12:23 am


    RJ—everything is consistent with obama persecuting CIA interrogators thru Eric holder—in the photo Obama is an on-looker, not a leader. Obama is a fraud and you RJ need to see that.

  441. Leaf Garrett

    On May 11, 2011 at 12:31 am


    lowell leach, you forgot to add “…because he’s black.”

  442. TD

    On May 11, 2011 at 12:52 am


    What are your sources for this? Who is being interviewed by whom? How do we know this is even real?

  443. chipload

    On May 11, 2011 at 8:38 am


    Typical. And during the President’s speech to the Nation that Sunday night it was all, me me me…I I I. What a self absorbed prick he is.

  444. pandora01

    On May 11, 2011 at 6:48 pm


    http://www.wabcradio.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=33447&ID=2179285

    Ex-cia Larry Johnson has been interviewed on the John Batchelor Show on WABC and said this \”Insider-Ulsterman\” report according to his contacts, is 80% correct.

  445. Jenny

    On May 11, 2011 at 8:27 pm


    You do realize that Obama is totally pandering to muslims. Who do you think muslims will vote for in 2012????? Obama is basically telling them that they will own this country if they help to vote him in.

    Send the muslims back to their own sharia law based nightmare countries. Leave America alone… and get rid of Obama and his thugs.

  446. KBB

    On May 11, 2011 at 11:17 pm


    “….We need a President who pulls our country together
    and leads our people in the right direction. One who
    protects our border….who is more proud of true blooded americans than illegal immigrants who are liars and trying to rob
    our country of every hard earned dollar our men and women
    have worked hundreds of years to build this country!!!
    We need a President who loves the American Flag and
    everything American like no other on earth!!!…”

    You have just described Sarah Palin.

    “…America will once again be a Nation that is Beautiful and
    Strong and a place where you love so much that you will
    protect it with all your heart not tear it apart with lies upon
    lies…I pray for My America and Americans
    and dream that in the coming days months and yrs that
    this nation will heal and begin to care for one another…”

    We will never return once again to an America like this until we get rid of the approximately 30% of Americans that are liberal.

  447. Jean Webster

    On May 12, 2011 at 1:43 am


    This is the stupidest story of the week. Jesus! Can’t you give Obama credit for anything? You people are unrelenting liars and morons. I’d like to see one person who is not a GOP lackey verify this.

  448. Mike T.

    On May 12, 2011 at 1:43 am


    At least someone will stand up and take charge. Leave it to Obama to be so hamstrung with political considerations as to be unable to make a decision and order the raid. It\’s no wonder Bush was unwilling to appear at the WTC with him. Sometimes a President has to take chances when it\’s the right thing to do. Figuring out whether to take out Bin Lauden should not have been too difficult, that is unless staying in power is a more important goal.

  449. Ilonaandrews

    On May 12, 2011 at 4:55 am


    Osama is dead , finally he founded in pak .

  450. CabotAR

    On May 12, 2011 at 9:52 am


    Sixteen hours to decide…..I guess Hillary was correct when she mentioned Obama was not qualified to answer the 3 AM call in the morning in case of an emergency.

    Great article!!

  451. paul

    On May 12, 2011 at 6:48 pm


    I do not know if this is true or not, but it is an interesting thought. I would not doubt this happened but would need more evidence to buy it.What I am really surprised about is how irate and nasty the dems get about anything bad suggested about obama After all obama is not a leader he is just the guy in charge

  452. RJ

    On May 13, 2011 at 12:58 am


    Lets see…..no name of the “source”, no name of the “interviewer”, no coverage on any major news source, direct conflict with all accounts on all CREDIBLE news sources, no proof this took place at all, hundreds of previous internet lies about Obama….hmmmm, must be true. I don’t care if you are a democrat, republican, logic is still logic.

  453. Thinker333

    On May 13, 2011 at 5:30 am


    Unfortunately not journalism this, as there is no evidence that any of the statements are true. Complete fiction.

  454. pandora01

    On May 13, 2011 at 8:52 am


    Now I get it ! If it’s on MSNBC or on NBC, it must be TRUE. And if it’s in the NY Times, it is REAL. Vow, how did I miss that…

    Check Ex-Cia Larry Johnson, you can hear his REAL voice here, about halfway through the program.

    http://www.wabcradio.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=33447&ID=2179285

    Ex-CIA Larry Johnson has been interviewed on the John Batchelor Show on WABC and said this \”Insider-Ulsterman\” report according to his contacts, is 80% correct.

    Wishful thinking does not make reality go away, most grown ups learn that sooner or later.

  455. RON JACKSON

    On May 13, 2011 at 9:43 am


    You mock MSNBC and the NY Times presumably because they lean left, which they do, yet offer John Batchelor as a credible source?…most ” grown ups” call that hypocrisy.

  456. HammerTime

    On May 13, 2011 at 10:25 am



    Ha, Ha, more lies from the government.

    Government = Politicians
    Politicians = Thieves, and Liars

    Our taxes (which are taken by force ultimately) pay for these lies and bailouts (thievery).

    But Osama died years ago…
    according to former Asst Sec. of State Pieczenik,
    AND former Sec. of State Albright,
    AND Walter Chronkite
    AND PM Bhutto of Pakistan

    You can stop paying these politicians and bureaucratic crooks, legally.

    Search tax regulations for “excluded income”
    ECFR dot GPOACCESS dot GOV
    (Title 26)

    Or just Google excluded income.

    Notice section 861, only “Foreign earned income” is taxable for American citizens.

    Hint:
    26 CFR 1.861-8T(d)(2)(ii)
    Read it, then see the paragraph which comes after, (d)(2)(iii)

    Don’t be a sheeple. Smell the coffee. Wake up. Rise from the dead, or be buried by the dead.

  457. 1776Liberal

    On May 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm


    This is a disgusting accusation – giving Panetta credit for this action decision. Everyone knows that Obama’s teleprompter makes all decisions.

    Thanks for your willingness for action Mr Panetta!

  458. Donallen

    On May 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm


    Bush would of went in without Panetta having to take charge. He was a leader, Obama is a follower

  459. Dick Manning

    On May 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm


    For those who find this difficult or impossible to believe, look atthe record. How long did it take for Obama to maky a decision on the “surge” in Afghanistan; same thing in Libya; big talk and no action until the rebel forces were almost defeated; same with raising the debt ceiling. And finally, why were the CIA operatives kept waiting and watching the Osama compound in harm’s way for over three weeks before the attack? There is a history of “dithering” over big decisions, and in fairness no one can deny that!

  460. SameAsTheOldBoss

    On May 13, 2011 at 4:06 pm


    This article may or may not be true. It certainly seems in line with everything else we’ve seen from this puppet. I suspect he got the speech from a George Soros courier, since the One won’t wipe his own nose without Soros’ telling him it’s time. Nonetheless, it’s very encouraging to see that even the disgusting liberals that surround Obama still have an interest in preserving this republic. If this actually happened, the democrats are on the verge of a complete and total collapse. Obama is POTUS because of 96% of the blacks in this country and the dems know it. If Obama flakes out, is there time to groom Al Sharpton??

  461. SameAsTheOldBoss

    On May 13, 2011 at 4:25 pm


    I love that picture! Looks like a group of adults at the table and someone said, “someone, get junior a chair.” Biden seems to be waiting on the commercial and wondering which movie they’re watching. Obama’s expression is the best of all. I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t mess-up his superman underwear. It’s almost like he can’t believe the power and precision of real, life and death. He’s always “bravely” called it from afar. This time, he got to see how easily anyone can be wiped off the planet. It had to be a bit disconcerting for someone so bent on enslaving an entire population. It’s as though he got an eye-opening glimpse of the magnitude of the game he’s been playing? Nahhh….he’s just wondering what Soros is going to think and how he’s really going to get yelled at for this one.

  462. John Galt

    On May 13, 2011 at 9:29 pm


    Pannetta was conducting the operation from CIA HQ! Folks do you actually believe the false flag, disinformation was OBL? Saddam had many doubles, & he wasn’t even liked by his followers, additionally less than a month after Bhutto reported who had a hand in OBL’s murder, she was assassinated, hmm? Now the Seals go in thinking its going to be a bad fire fight, but apparently only 3 guys protecting the compound? #2 may very well have set up the tracking back from the courier to eliminate his competition, so CIA worked these details out, but the Seals were ever even approached. It could not be let out that the Boogie Man was dead, then why give Pakistan $20
    billion, KBR’s cut, etc.?

  463. fred lapides

    On May 14, 2011 at 9:14 am


    If you believe this nonsense then clearly you have not followed Obama’s career in the White House. He is a take charge guy, shown over and over. But that said, please remember this:

    the guy who is the man in charge is the guy who gets the credit or the blame. If the mission had failed, then you anti-Obama types would of course note that Obama was in charge…In sum: you just
    do not want to accept this :

    9/11 took place under Bush’s watch. O.B. Ladin not captured under Bush… But he was while Obama in charge.

    that is the plain fact and any and all denials are moronic.

  464. pandora01

    On May 14, 2011 at 5:35 pm


    Spoof the spoof..If it\’s on Spoof it must be a real..Spoof!

    Facts are facts and spoken words are spoken words.Even if it gives you acido, listen to the spoken words of
    Ex-Cia Larry Johnson, about halfway through the program.

    http://www.wabcradio.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=33447&ID=2179285

    Ex-CIA Larry Johnson has been interviewed on the John Batchelor Show on WABC and said this \\”Insider-Ulsterman\\” report according to his contacts, is 80% correct.

  465. Harry2011

    On May 14, 2011 at 5:56 pm


    Spoof the Spoof. If it’s on SPOOF -posted on May 9th – then it must be a spoof. What reality?
    Even if it gives you acido, listen to the voice of Ex-cia Larry Johnson when interviewed on the John Batchelor Show on WABC.He said that this \”Insider-Ulsterman\” report according to his contacts, is 80% correct.

    http://www.wabcradio.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=33447&ID=2179285

  466. littlef00t

    On May 15, 2011 at 12:41 am


    No Sense…

  467. torquepilot

    On May 15, 2011 at 12:32 pm


    This Washington, D.C., based reporter seems to validate this story.

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=46960&Cat=1&dt=5/14/2011

  468. DCL

    On May 16, 2011 at 1:19 pm


    If nothing else, this article and many others that have come out since Bin Laden’s death show how distrustful the people are and how muddled the public square of information has become.

    No one knows what to believe. Confusion. Fear.

    All of which makes the USA ripe for the picking. We have enemies yes, but too many of them are on the inside.

    Can’t wait till the rug gets pulled out from under those loyal to the current controllers.

    Our republic and our liberty is truly hanging by a thread.

  469. Gary

    On May 17, 2011 at 3:15 am


    My White house sources tells me that the only one who was cold to the idea was Gates. That’s why he requested to leave. Everyone on staff were totally behind this mission. Come on! bin Laden! After 10 years, the White house was elated at the prospect of getting him. I have no idea where your source is getting their info. Totally unreliable!!

    Gary

  470. torquepilot

    On May 17, 2011 at 11:27 am


    If Gates was AWOL, why is he in the photo-op?

  471. jim

    On May 17, 2011 at 8:58 pm


    When oboma gave his announcement that osama had been killed I couldnt figure out why he had such a gesture on his face. I thought that he was just trying not to look too elated.But certainly after hearing this that expression on his face is the confirmation to this story. Take it to the bank.

  472. Billy Bob

    On May 18, 2011 at 7:50 am


    Hmmm…this “interview” seems to be a little too perfectly written. In all my years/experience of where I work and what I do…no one speaks this perfectly and “wordy” when giving exact details of events that took months in the making. Sorry, but this article/interview seems a little to staged to me. I think it would be a little more believable if it were written exactly as the person told the story. This looks way too over edited and, thus, not plausible. Even if these were the exact events, this interview/article appears over edited and staged. The interviewer asked, what, two questions? There usually is a lot more interaction in between…this was no “interview” of an “insider”. I would have had a heck of a lot more questions to ask. I am not saying that this did not happen, but the way it is written here…it does not appear to be a very credible story…sorry.

  473. missnye

    On May 18, 2011 at 4:23 pm


    We only get little pieces of the story. Thank-you for posting this bit on info!

  474. SuperElite Hacker

    On May 19, 2011 at 9:59 am


    Hmm intresting story i want to hear more about that..

  475. Grain of Salt

    On May 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm


    I take this, as with any report with a grain of salt. Even verified “reputable” news sources have been known to spout misinformation. I’m not in favor of Obama, but he’s certainly done plenty enough bad things that are known to be true that I don’t see the need to spread information that is uncertain. Do some research before just latching on to something, because if it turns out that it’s NOT true, then you make the entire political party look bad by spreading rumors.

    Do I think this article is accurate? There’s certainly some credible information about it, enough that it could at least be BASED on true events. Do I think all of it is? No. There are too many assumptions made, as have been pointed out, such as so-and-so “thought” this. If this was a court of law, that would be overruled as cause for speculation.

    One of the biggest arguments I keep hearing against the article is that the President has supreme authority to make all decisions of this magnitude, and none can be made without his authorization. Not true. Individual acts of war can be declared by Congress or the military, when determined necessary to fulfill their sworn duties to protect the Union. It’s actually the president who can not declare prolonged warfare without Congressional approval. Both can make short term decisions regarding military action, but any long-standing order needs the approval of both, it’s part of the system of checks and balances.

    I personally think anyone immediately jumping on one side or the other needs to look objectively at the scenario. Republicans, if this is NOT true, do you really want to be seen as progenitors of propaganda and misinformation? Democrats, if it IS true, do you really want to be seen as deliberately covering up for a lack of leadership? For me, I am far more concerned about knowing the TRUTH. Most things have at least a hint of truth to them, find that, discard the rest. I think EVERYONE would benefit immensely if we all did that.

  476. bruceben9

    On May 20, 2011 at 2:17 pm


    it’s a lovely story. time may tell us if any of it is true.

  477. bruceben9

    On May 20, 2011 at 2:25 pm


    i also find all the people that are mind readers quite amusing in reference to telling us what mrs. clinton is thinking when the pic was shot and also letting us all know the inference of the president’s seating ‘arrangement’. puleeze.

  478. 911NewsCentral.com

    On May 21, 2011 at 5:19 am


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  479. gaby7

    On May 22, 2011 at 12:09 pm


    What positive can the Insider ever say about the President? He is such a pathetic anti Obama that all that comes to his head is to portray the President in bad light through and through! Has Obama done no single good all these year four years? Not even one thing in your opinion? You are really a hater!

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    On May 23, 2011 at 8:26 am


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  481. lolontka

    On May 23, 2011 at 6:02 pm


    Bloody Hell. You must make an absolute FORTUNE from not liking Obama!

  482. KLAUS

    On May 25, 2011 at 1:22 pm


    WHO WROTE THIS BS?
    UBL HAS BEEN DEAD FOR OVER 9 YEARS BY NOW.
    THIS WAS A NEEDED COVER STORY CHANGE TO GET AWAY FROM THE KENYANS ESCALATING BIRTH CERTIFICATE SITUATION.
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  484. Diana

    On May 27, 2011 at 12:40 pm


    Some people have the idea that BO is the one who killed bin laden. Lets not forget it was the NAVY SEALS that did the deed, NOT BO. He just happened to be in office at the time so BO, QUIT patting yourself on the back. You had nothing to do with his capture and death.

  485. memeonly20

    On May 29, 2011 at 6:39 am


    NICe THing

  486. Lerinti Sorin

    On June 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm


    intresting story

  487. 1lumpor2

    On June 2, 2011 at 11:23 pm


    “According to an American Spectator report in August of 2008, the Obama campaign had initiated an aggressive program to hide Jarrett’s Iranian background. This program received significant help from certain media figures who were only too happy to comply with the Obama camp’s request that Jarrett’s Middle East ties were not made a public matter – even as Iranian.com declared Jarrett its “Iranian of the Day” that same month of August. Also during that same time period, Barack Obama admitted to the New York Times that, “I trust her (Jarrett) to speak for me, particularly when we’re dealing with delicate issues” and that he ran every important decision by her first.”

  488. 1lumpor2

    On June 2, 2011 at 11:23 pm


    \”According to an American Spectator report in August of 2008, the Obama campaign had initiated an aggressive program to hide Jarrett’s Iranian background. This program received significant help from certain media figures who were only too happy to comply with the Obama camp’s request that Jarrett’s Middle East ties were not made a public matter – even as Iranian.com declared Jarrett its “Iranian of the Day” that same month of August. Also during that same time period, Barack Obama admitted to the New York Times that, “I trust her (Jarrett) to speak for me, particularly when we’re dealing with delicate issues” and that he ran every important decision by her first.\”

  489. alshaw

    On June 4, 2011 at 11:46 am


    A casual reading of Ulsterman\’s previous articles will reveal

    (a) a fixation with articles critical of President Obama

    (b) a tendency to deny that Obama was born in the United States

    (c) articles critical of government action to reduce carbon emissions, etc

    Good to know where a writer is coming from when evaluating an article like this none, especially with so much online astro-turfing around.

    As Ulsterman says, quoting Washington, let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence.

  490. LadyLatifa

    On June 5, 2011 at 3:52 am


    Its so very complicated matters.

  491. Nishant Sharma2

    On June 10, 2011 at 9:31 am


    It was Reallyy An Hard Work But He Is Really DEAD………

  492. tr10nd banned me 3 times

    On June 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm


    At nine o’clock in the morning of September 11, 2001, President George Bush sitting in elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, listening to seven years to read stories about goats. “The night has fallen a different world,” he said that day. And a different America.

    First of America and the world seemed to change with it. “We are all citizens of New York now,” ran in Berlin in an e-mail per day, the witness’s statement of John F. Kennedy 40 years ago, “Ich bin ein Berliner”, and include the title of Le Monde the next day, “Nous sommes tous américains”. And America, in turn, appears to be higher than in other countries. Al-Qaeda attacks, the first continent to a foreign enemy, took off something unique. “City upon a hill” its aura of invulnerability, a sense of their own seats in addition to

    Two days after the event, predicted President George Bush senior, who, like Pearl Harbour, “so too should this most recent surprise attack erase notion in some quarters that America can somehow go it alone. “Francis Fukuyama, a professor at Johns Hopkins, suggested that” America can become a more ordinary in the sense of having concrete interests and real vulnerabilities, rather than thinking in a position to unilaterally define the nature of the world to live ”

    Both men were thinking about foreign policy. But global terrorism has changed America at home. Because it makes the most important national security, strengthening the role of the president and the federal government. Twice as many Americans in the 1990 now say they are paying close attention to domestic issues, where they used to care more about stories and local businesses. Some observers have noted a back-to-grave “frivolous and not dominate television news as they did.

    But the United States was not “a more common, either in foreign policy or the domestic sphere. Instead, this study argues that the attacks in 2001 increased by “American exceptionalism”, a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville in the mid-19th century to describe the profound differences of other American nations. The functions that the attacks come to the surface was already there, but the Bush administration has made. Therefore, the differences between the U.S. and other countries over the past two years has become more pronounced.

    However, because the United States is not a homogeneous group of countries in fact, its heterogeneity is one of its most notable features, many people feel uncomfortable about the events of Exceptionalism. Therefore, as the survey also support the rehabilitation and expansion of American exceptionalism result of division in the country. This division is defined national policy in the coming years.

    Not all New Yorkers

    Outsiders is the best proof of U.S. military power exceptionalism. America spends more on defense than the next dozen countries combined. In the closest of explicit recognition of exceptionalism in the public arena, “said National Security Strategy from 2002 America must ensure that its current military dominance, often described as the largest since Rome’s-n ‘ is not disputed, let alone surpassed.

    In fact, the army could be a symptom of what makes America is unusual. The country is unusual in several important ways. It is stronger than Europe individualistic, more patriotic, more religious and culturally conservative (see Figure 1). Al-Qaeda attacks prompted two of these deeper properties. In the wake of the attacks, expressing both love of country and enriched the love of God. This does not necessarily mean Americans suddenly became more patriotic or religious. Instead, the tip is a reminder of what is important to them. It was like lightning, illuminating the landscape map, but not change it.

    The President has seized on these events of the American spirit. The next day he had defined America’s enemies in his “axis of evil” speech in January 2002, Bush told an audience in Daytona Beach, Florida, on his country “mission” in the world. “We are fighting for freedom and civilization and universal values.” It is a string of American exceptionalism. America is the purest example of a nation founded on universal values ​​like democracy and human rights. This is a flagship, a copy.

    But the president went further, wants to change American culture and values ​​so as to make the country even more distinctive. “We have a great opportunity,” he said at Daytona. “As a result, bad, there are some amazing things that happen in America. People are beginning to question the culture of the past, said:” If it feels good, do it. “This great nation has the opportunity to help change the culture.” He appealed to the old-fashioned virtues of personal responsibility, self-sufficiency and discretion, the characteristics relating to the block of exceptionalism that says American values ​​and institutions are different, and the United States is exceptional in its nucleus, not only because it is the airline.

    In this perspective, the U.S. is not exceptional because it is strong, America is powerful because it is exceptional. And what makes it different from America to keep them rich and powerful, the U.S. administration encourages the search for wealth and power to promote the intrinsic specificity. Walter Russell Mead and External Relations Council dubs this impulse “American Revival”. It is not an ideology but to express patterns of beliefs, attitudes and instincts.

    The Bush administration is showing “exceptional” has an unusual extent. Is more overtly religious than any of his predecessors. Bush called Jesus his favorite philosopher. White House staff organize courses of Bible study. Team president re-elected courts evangelical Protestant voters. The government wants religious institutions to play a greater role in social policy.

    In addition, consumer patriotism on your sleeve. This is not to say that it is more patriotic than previous governments, but openly flaunts this quality, images, banners for every occasion and enjoy the American military to an extent unusual. More than any administration since Ronald Reagan, is a narrow focus on U.S. national interests.

    There is also a certain disdain for “old Europe” that goes beyond frustration with politics. Through training and background, this is an administration less influenced than usual by Transatlanticism bastions of the Ivy League universities. A third of President Bush’s senior secretaries first cabinet, and half of President Clinton, had Ivy League degrees. But in the current housing stock is down in fourth place. For most members of this administration, which is primarily from the continent and the western U.S. (especially Texas), Europe seems far away. They have not studied there. They do not follow German novels or French films. Yes, many of them, Europe is somehow unserious. His armies are a joke. Its people work short hours. They wear sandals and make chocolate. Europe does not take into account their imagination in the way of China, the Middle East and America.

    Bush embodies his own family abandonment of Eurocentrism. His grandfather was a senator from Connecticut, an internationalist and a descendant of Brown Brothers Harriman, blue banks of Wall Street blue blood investment. His father, the embodiment of the transatlantic generation. Despite his studies at Yale, he is himself more comfortable on his ranch in Texas.

    Viewed this way, the Bush administration’s policies are not the only answers to specific problems or complaints from interest groups. They reflect a certain way of looking at America and the world. They embody the American exceptionalism.

    American exceptionalism is nothing new. But it is increasingly clear

    “All the Americans,” said Alexis de Tocqueville, “is unusual, but what is more extraordinary still is the land that sustains them.” America has natural harbors on the two big oceans, the access to one of the richest regions in the world of fishing, an abundance of all kinds of products and a wide variety of agricultural crops from cold to tropical. Not only is it the fourth country in the world, but two-thirds of it is habitable, as opposed to Russia and Canada. Every country obsessed with America’s space on the card would probably be unusual. But, like Tocqueville also said: “Natural causes contributing less [to Spirit of America] that the laws and customs. ”

    His 1995 book “American exceptionalism”, Seymour Martin Lipset lists some of these laws and social characteristics. Terms of income per capita, America’s richest large industrial country. It ‘also the only Western democracy has been practiced slavery in the industrial era. It ’s the highest crime rate and a maximum term of imprisonment (even if the crime is decreasing, at least on a European scale). His company is one of the religious world. Perhaps less clear that Americans are more likely than anyone else, to join voluntary associations.

    U.S. has a highly decentralized policy with federal, state and local governments all collect their own taxes, to write their own laws and manage their own affairs. His federal government spends a relatively small share of national income. The country has more elective offices than any other, including in some states, judges, which means that each cycle of four years of America has about 1m choice. Not surprisingly, perhaps, it also has one of the lowest turnout outs, making it both more democratic and democracy.

    It has no major socialist party, and never had. She never has had a significant fascist movement. Unlike the conservative parties in Europe, their version of earth has no aristocratic roots. The U.S. has a lower tax rate among the rich countries, the least generous public services, increased military spending, most lawyers per capita, the highest proportion of youth in the universities and the most persistent work ethic .

    But the term “exceptionalism” is more a description of how the U.S. is different from the rest of the world. It also covers the importance of these differences and policies based on them. People have been looking for a broader sense that the place from its earliest days. In 1630, the year of the Massachusetts Bay Company was founded, John Winthrop, governor of the colony, described their new land as “a city upon a hill, the eyes of all people are upon us.”

    And as you saw, people have found two very different reasons to think that America is special. The first is that only based on the principles that all countries can aspire. In 1787, Alexander Hamilton wrote in The Federalist that the first “seems to have been reserved for the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not to establish a good government from reflection and choice, or whether they remain dependent on their political constitutions on accident and force. ”

    This is America-as-model. George Bush had an idea. To celebrate the first anniversary of the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001, said that “the American ideal of hope for all mankind.” He was echoed Lincoln, who called America “the last, best hope of earth.”

    But exceptionalism has another meaning: that America is fundamentally different than other countries, its values ​​and institutions, and is not necessarily the model. Thomas Jefferson said that “Any kind of government has specific principles. We are perhaps more peculiar than anything else in the universe.”

    In 1929, Jay Lovestone, Communist Party leader of the United States, was called to Moscow. Stalin demanded to know why the world communist revolution was not a step forward in the greatest capitalist country. Lovestone, said the United States lacked the preconditions for communism, like feudalism and aristocracy. No less an authority Friedrich Engels had said the same thing “… American special conditions that make the bourgeois conditions look like a good place for them.” Then, there was an Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci, and a British socialist HG Wells, who argued that the origin of a unique product of the United States a distinctive set of values ​​and political unusual.

    Lovestone was purged, but his argument still has force: America is exceptional because it is singular. As usual, Tocqueville had designed both sense of exceptionalism before anyone else. In his book “Democracy in America,” he describes not only what democracy in particular, especially how it changes the way people think and act (what he calls “the silent action of the Company). He also described what was and is, particularly to America: its size, the institutions he inherited from England, the devolved administration.

    Both versions of American exceptionalism have more in common than meets the eye. Both suggest that the U.S. experience is open to others. The idea of ​​America as a model implies that other countries can become more like the United States of America although differences may persist over time. The idea that America is intrinsically different also supports the notion that foreigners could be Americans, but have to go there to do it and become citizens, hence the extraordinary capacity for assimilation of immigrant America.

    There are three points to grapple with this gallop through the history of American exceptionalism. First, it is, as Lipset said, a double-edged sword. Explain the best and worst of a country: its voters innovation and economic inequality, its populist democracy and low voter turnout out of high fees for education and unacceptable rates of infant mortality and pregnancies adolescence. Exceptionalism is often used to boast or condemnation, although in reality it is not.

    Secondly, the two chains help explain why the uniqueness is a source of division in America itself. Most Americans probably proud of the “best” qualities of their country. But the lack of such, more features are not always command universal approval.

    Thirdly, there should be nothing surprising, nor necessarily at an alarming revival of exceptionalism. United States has almost always been considered different. The question is: has anything changed recently?

    Matchless Lyrics

    It is always risky to declare a pause in a trend. However, evidence is growing that over the last decade, the U.S. has changed to make it different from its allies in Europe and September 11 have increased this difference.

    Most of the previous half-century was a period of convergence. Between 1945 and 1990, America and Europe seems increasingly to another in almost everything that matters. Economically, Europe began to ruins after the war. According to Angus Maddison, an economic historian, in 1950, average incomes in Western Europe were 54% of Americans. In early 1990 the proportion was 80%. The richest countries of the EU now have a standard of living comparable to that of the United States. Until mid 1980, the United States and Europe also had two stable populations, fertility rates and an increasing number of elderly.

    In 1960, America closer to the level of public expenditure through the programs of the Great Society. This was the beginning of Medicaid, the poor and the resulting increase in regulation by industry bodies such as the Environmental Protection Agency.

    With Watergate and the Vietnam War, the U.S. began to approach European levels of cynicism about government and military intervention abroad. In 1976, the sociologist Daniel Bell wrote a book whose title encapsulated the conventional wisdom of the time “. The end of American exceptionalism” Further changes seemed to agree. In the 1980’s, European countries have begun to organize their economies to more American lines. The government privatized and deregulated. Companies listed on the NYSE, NASDAQ clones established and began to use stock prices to measure the performance of a company or director.

    In politics, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan were both involved in similar projects around the decline of the state. Bill Clinton (who was very popular in Europe) is declared to be largely paid for a member of the European Council “third way”.

    When Communism collapsed, Mr. Fukuyama hailed as the “end of history.” Countries, he said, will tend to become more similar, more democratic, more free, more globalized. There would be fewer exceptionalism, American or any other.

    But things did not go well in foreign affairs, and other forms of convergence, can come to an end, too. Demographic differences are now surprising. Around 1985, the United States in low fertility and began to increase again. It is now almost two children per woman, below the replacement level of 2.1, and likely to increase. fertility rates below 1.4 in Europe and falling. Although China is 1.8, and its birthrate is declining fast.

    Currently, the EU population much larger than America’s 380m-280 million and will increase further with the expansion next year. China is almost four times larger than America. But current trends in the middle of this century the U.S. population may be 440 550, higher than the EU, even after enlargement, and nearly half of China, rather than fourth.

    America also significantly younger and more ethnically diverse. Currently, the average age is almost the same as Europe (36 against 38). In 2050, Bill Frey of the Brookings Institution, a think-tank, the average age in America will always be around 36 years, but Europe has increased to 53 (and China will be 44). In the 1990’s, America took the largest number of immigrants who had been in a decade: 33 million live in the country were born abroad, and Latinos have become the largest ethnic group. “America,” said Hania Zlotnik of the Population Division of the United Nations, “the population is large atypical world.”

    Then there is technological development. Each year, more patent applications in the U.S. and the European Union. America is almost three times as many Nobel Prizes that the next country (Britain), and spend more on research and development than any other country. A measure of academic performance in more than 90 world top 100 universities in the United States.

    Europe and the United States were also divergent economic, but be careful with it. In the seven years from 1995 to 2001, real GDP grew 3.3% annually in the United States, but only 2.5% per year in the European Union. The bursting of the stock market bubble and subsequent recession reversed that trend in 2001, GDP growth was higher in Europe than in America, but the gap opened again as economies recovered. According to estimates and projections, growth in the U.S. within three years to 2004 an average of 1.3 percentage points per year over the euro zone in 12 countries. About 60% of world economic growth since 1995 has come to America.

    These economic benefits can be reversed relative. It is difficult to see how the country can maintain both its enormous trade and budget deficits. On the other hand, growth in the decade of 1990 reflects a significant improvement in productivity, which rose more than 2% per annum in the decade of 1990. The number of hours worked also increased. In 1982, Europeans and Americans have about the same number of hours each year. Now, Americans work 300 hours a year more in size.

    These differences have started at different times and for different reasons. The demographic gap began to open in the mid-1980s. Economies began to diverge in the mid-1990s. Even in the area that is most relevant to the terrorist attacks, foreign rooted transatlantic differences probably come back to the fall of communism in 1989-91. September 11 did not create these tensions, but it dramatizes some of them. The attacks occurred at a time when America was ruled by an administration that has already been less attached to Europe than any other in recent history, and where almost all other measures were first in 50 years, pointing in the same direction, from Europe and large parts of the world.

    If this cycle continues, America is able to overcome a dominant position in world politics. That alone makes the American exceptionalism of national importance. American Power is a non-division, but also contradicts the home, since a significant percentage of Americans do not believe that this convergence is over. When Howard Dean, Democratic presidential candidate, said “It is not always the strongest military,” he slapped his own party as well as Republicans. But it has touched a nerve. The next section explains how to divide America and exceptionalism for it.

    American values ​​divide and define the country

    The new National Constitution Center in Philadelphia is located three blocks from where the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution adopted. Post-it are scattered throughout the museum for visitors to answer questions like “What does being American?” “That means I have a responsibility and obligation to protect my freedom and my children,” runs a typical response. Or: “It means when I do not agree.” Or: “Sometimes it means unbridled capitalism.”

    For the second question, “If the Ten Commandments displayed in public buildings?” The answers range from “They are the fundamental laws of the Constitution” to “We have the right to freedom of religion.” And third, “What’s it like outside?” They understand “Our military forces willing to give his life for mine”, “do not have to think about it,” or simply “USA rocks!”

    American values ​​are different, but not consistently. Patriotism and religious faith are exceptionally strong. U.S. targets emphasize personal responsibility, not collective. Many are fairly conservative in their social views are slightly more likely than Europeans to reject divorce, abortion and homosexuality. However, people on both sides of the Atlantic find international terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction concern. And Americans are somehow more open than the Europeans or were until the 2001 terrorist attacks less hospitable for greater support of immigration and the value of “other cultures.” It is this particular combination of values ​​as much as patriotism or religiosity strong America that really stand out.

    Start a clear distinction between the area: the role of government towards a free market. People in most countries surveyed by the Pew Research Center in 2003 say that the best the free market economy. But asked what is most important that the government should ensure that no one needs, or should not restrict the pursuit of personal goals in Europe East and West down to about two-thirds/one-third good safety net, while the U.S. share two-thirds/one Thirdly, otherwise.

    But when asked, “Is it too much government control of your daily life? Is it normal ineffective and useless?” Two thirds of respondents from both sides of the Atlantic say yes. Thus, the differences seem to have less to do with how governments are considered, and more to do with Americans’ belief in the importance of individual effort. Pew poll sought to measure this belief by asking people in 44 countries, “Do you agree or disagree that success is determined by forces beyond your control?” In most countries, less than half felt that success was within their control. In only two did more than 60% believe that success is a matter of individual action: Canada and by the largest margin of the United States.

    In other areas, American exceptionalism is less clear. For example, say nine out of ten Americans are very patriotic, according to Pew. But the Indians, Nigerians and Turks are also patriotic. Among rich countries, Americans are also more likely to go to church and say that God is very important in their lives, but again, Indians, Nigerians and Turks are more religious than Americans.

    A lot of Americans want to buy products that scream “I’m great. I am a tough guy. I am ready for anything” as an attack on army vehicles slightly disguised as cars, outdoor grills, or the size of a small kitchen or Arnold Schwarzenegger. David Brooks of The New York Times, calls this “get in touch with inner longshoreman.” But at the same time, Americans seem to be evolving more moderate side. They are far less likely than Europeans to say that people should not discriminate against AIDS. Support for the idea that “women should return to traditional roles in society” has fallen by almost a third of the end of 1980, about a fifth are more or less the same as in Europe. Both Americans and Europeans overwhelmingly believe that when jobs are scarce men should be given priority.

    Americans are slightly less likely than Europeans to find homosexuality is socially acceptable and less likely to support gay marriage, but tolerance of homosexuals is increasing (see Figure 3). Americans also tend to be relatively positive about immigrants contribute to society, while in most of the rest of the industrial world more than half the population believes that immigrants are bad for their country.

    These differences and similarities are best understood as values ​​arranged along the two frequencies of the notice. Spectrum, “said World Values ​​Survey from the University of Michigan (who invented the idea), measures the” traditional values ​​”. The most important is patriotism, and others related to religion and traditional family ties. Americans tend to be traditionalists. A remarkable 80% say they hold the “old values” of the family and marriage. At the other end of the spectrum are “secular-rational” values, because if the supporters of religion is a personal, voluntary action, patriotism is not a major concern and the children have their own life to lead. Europeans tend to be secular-rationalist. On this spectrum, is America truly unique.

    Other measures of “quality of life” spectrum attitudes. On the other end are the values ​​and opinions of the people down when the economic and physical insecurity dominates their lives, as often happens in poor countries. This makes them suspicious of outsiders, be careful to change jobs and reluctant to engage in political activities. At the other extreme are the values ​​of self-expression, which adopted a wide range of behaviors. At this point, Americans and Europeans are similar, since neither the group plays more of a struggle for survival.

    But the two spectra together indicate that there is a “values ​​gap” in America itself. European countries have become both more secular and more “self-expression” because they are richer. America, this does not happen. It has profound implications.

    E pluribus duo

    In 1999, Gertrude Himmelfarb, a social historian, argued that America is becoming “one nation, two cultures.” One is religious, puritanical, family-oriented and a little ‘unconventional. The second is a tolerant, hedonistic, secular, predominantly one and celebrates multiculturalism. These value choices are the best predictor of political affiliation, much better than wealth or income.

    In 2000, election, only 63% of them went to church more than once per week voted for George Bush, 61% of those who have never been voted for Al Gore. About 70% of those who said abortion should always be available voted for Mr. Gore, 74% who said it should always be illegal voted for Bush. By Pete du Pont, a former governor of Delaware, pointed out, a map that shows sales and rentals of porn movies bore an uncanny similarity with the map of 2000 election results.

    United States, they say, can live together because Americans are living outside. The two crops occupy different worlds. Traditionalists are concentrated in a large L-shape on the map, the backbone of the Rocky Mountains are its vertical arm, one of the horizontal cut a strip in the South. With few exceptions, all these “red states” voted for Bush in 2000.

    The rest of the country is more secular. This includes the Pacific coast and the space described by the general L, comprising the states of the northeast and upper mid-west. With few exceptions, voted the “blue states” for Mr. Gore in 2000.

    Their differences are deeply rooted. Traditionalists are highly concentrated in small towns and rural areas. Dominate secular cities. South tend to be somewhat more religious, a little more socially conservative and support a position of military strength that the rest of the country. Curiously, black South are more conservative than blacks elsewhere, although less conservative than their white neighbors.

    The political impact of these differences will increase. For historical reasons (the Republicans, whose party is the war anti-slavery), white from the south was the democratic coalition to limit the years of political influence in the conservative South. Now, when the area became a Republican, that conservatism is increasingly vocal.

    By contrast, multiculturalism is deeply rooted in the blue states. The states with the highest levels of immigration of Latinos and Asians are New York, New Jersey, New Mexico and California, what Mr. Frey calls new U.S. pots melting. Gore won all but Texas and Florida. These are special cases: the two governors have called for Bush, both had seen the biggest influx of other American regions of the white immigrants, who tend to be more cautious.

    Differences between two of America seem to become sharper. A new Pew survey of American values, is looking for greater social and sexual tolerance, but also more strict on matters of personal morality. A number of people who say that all agree that there is a clear and general rules of good and evil is increased by one third, two fifths are in place for 15 years.

    One of the characteristics of America is its sunny optimism, a sense that anything is possible. However, there is a difference of 18 points by the number of Democrats and Republicans agree with the statement “I do not believe in real limits to growth in this country today.” Democrats are generally more intense the Republicans to urge the administration to focus on domestic issues. This gap has widened by three percentage points in 1997 to 16 points now. America’s role in the world, the importance of military strength and patriotism itself, the difference between the parties has never been wider.

    So if there is a revival of exceptionalism-two in the direction of important starting other countries, and policies based on it, it will be controversial. Red States are likely to welcome. Blue States probably will not.

    But there are complicating factors. Red-blue divide means that two tribes are a people with the thought in every area, more or less similar. In reality, things are rarely clear. In their book, “California State of Mind” was released in 2002, Mark Baldassare and Public Policy Institute of San Francisco, showed that voters in that state does not fit bifurcated model of the 2000 election. California is one of the heavily Democratic (blue) states. The majority of voters called themselves liberal, socially and ecologically, that sounds like “” attributes. But anyway, the California unEuropean as you can get a place of swirling ethnic groups that appear in Latin America and Asia.

    Californians wanted significant tax revenue for the state generated during the boom years of 1990 to spend on social programs instead of tax cuts back again, a European impulse. However, in contradiction, they do not want their state government to develop because they do not trust politicians to spend the money wisely-exceptional characteristic of America.

    Part of this mess is certainly a special California. Yet there are conflicting views, and large contrasts between opinion and behavior in many other places too. For example, Americans in the core area explicitly states the traditional concept of family and personal morality, in particular, strongly, but the incidence of divorce, teenage pregnancy, births out of wedlock and murder is slightly higher than elsewhere.

    Earth soccer moms

    Of all the ways the United States is rare, one of the least noticed but most important is that more than half the population lives in the suburbs. In this is unique in the world: in most European countries, for example, more than two thirds of the population classified as urban. American suburbia has radically changed in the last 20 years. It is no longer a homogeneous world of nuclear families, bedroom communities and the white middle class. Now there are ethnic neighborhoods (the majority of immigrants go there), office parks (90% of office space built in the 1990’s was close by) about the poor suburbs of cities and countries rich periphery. Some suburbs even try to recreate the European cities: a plot against the overall trend of divergence.

    However, compared to the strong differences between urban and rural areas, suburbs still seem to remain similar values. Those who are the most important result in the family and in moderation. This country, soccer moms, SUVs, well-kept subdivision, oboe practice for children and school functions.

    These people are a heavy percentage of about 40% of Americans who consider themselves politically moderate. They explain to soften some of the sharp edges, American exceptionalism, as the decline in support for the death penalty since 1990, the media and greater acceptance of gays and inter-racial dating. Suburban moderate cut through a line of color between red states and blue.

    Reading this, the distribution of America’s opinion is a form of watch. Extremism and the secularists are the two tails that are fatter and singing. It is a bulge in the middle of a moderate opinion, indifferent, or even rejected from, in this race. It is up to politicians to decide to resort to extremes or center. But before plunging into politics, stop to view the most important ’special’ characteristics: religion and patriotism.

    Americans are more religious, but not necessarily more judgmental

    Saddleback Church could not exist in the United States. On any given Sunday, more than 3,000 people from the suburbs south of Los Angeles went to the main worship center, which looks less like a cathedral of the airport terminal. If you want to experience the rock bands, theatrical shows and powerpoint sermons in a traditional church, you can: they are intended for either by video link. Or you can view the service on giant screens while sipping a cappuccino at an outdoor cafe.

    But if you think it is Lite religion, Rick Warren, pastor, will soon invite you to join one of the thousands of small groups that are the real life of the church. Saddleback members will help you find a school, a friend, or God’s work. Not a “God of the Geeks” club of Cisco employees, and an ATV club, where they pray and the pedal.

    Europe, religion is the strangest and most disturbing feature of American exceptionalism. They are worried that the fundamentalists are hijacking the country. They find it strange that three times as many Americans believe the virgin birth as an evolution. They fear that the United States to go to “crusade” (a term that Mr. Bush briefly) in the Muslim world, or cut for poor countries so that it is used for birth control. The persistence of religion in the public power is all the more puzzling because it appears to be inconsistent with the historical development. As the philosophers of the Enlightenment, many Europeans believe that the reform is the enemy of religion. As countries get richer, organized religion is reduced. Secular Europe seems to fit this model. America is not so.

    In fact, “said Peter Berger, director of the Institute on Religion and World Affairs at Boston University, few developing countries have shown signs of decline of religion as their standard of living has increased. It may be that Europe is the exception, not here, America. No doubt, however, that America is the most religious country rich. Over 80% of Americans say they believe in God and 39% describe themselves as born-again Christians. In addition, 58 % of Americans believe that if you believe in God, can not be a legal entity.

    There are also indications that the private belief is accelerating. Pew Research Center showed that many of those who “strongly agree” Three of Faith (faith in God, it is Judgement Day and the importance of prayer in everyday life) has increased from seven to ten points in 1965-2003 . At the end of 1980, two fifths of Protestants described themselves as “born again”, now the figure is more than half.

    The importance of religion in America goes far beyond a personal belief. 1960, Gallup polls found that 53% of Americans think churches should be involved in politics, and 22% were members of the clergy should not even mention the public positions of the candidates from the pulpit. By 1996 these figures were reversed: 54% thought it was nice talking to churches, political and social issues, and 20% had up to bring the talks have been admitted in the Church.

    For God and republicanism

    These changes are prompted by the opinion of a particular church: evangelical Protestants. They embrace a variety of denominations, including Baptist, Pentecostal and denominational churches, which emphasize individual salvation and the Bible, rather than a word or established doctrine of the sacraments. In 1987, they were the third religious group in America with a membership of 24% of the adult population, are now larger than 30%. Percentage of Catholics has remained stable, largely due to Latino immigrants, but established Protestant churches, including Presbyterians, have declined sharply.

    A marriage of church and politics

    Evangelicals confirm the European view that religion in America is politically active, socially conservative, predominantly Republican. Nearly two-thirds of evangelicals employees who attend church more often and say keep strictly to the Bible, described as conservative, by far the highest proportion of any religious group. They are also more likely than people of other issues related to social and cultural levels as important, a little more likely to say that homosexuality should be discouraged and more likely to want to reduce the scope of government.

    Over time, evangelicals are more willing to participate in politics, too. White evangelical Protestants make up almost one third of the electorate now, even a little ‘less than a quarter in 1987. Their leaders have sought to combine a variety of evangelical churches as a political force for the Moral Majority in 1979, and the Christian Coalition in 1989. Their comments speak for themselves. Franklin Graham (Billy’s son), called Islam “an evil religion.” The former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, called Muhammad “a demon-possessed pedophile.”

    Such political activism, the growth of new churches and the frequency of the faith has led some people argue that America can be a great awakening begins the fourth period of religious fervor, the variety, vigor, size, and public participation groups religious, all of a sudden increase. In past revivals occurred in the late colonial period, 1820 to the late 19th century. Could the same thing happen again?

    The display will see. The presence of the church was not growing, it is proposed a new awakening. Gallup Organization found that it fell slowly through 1960 and 1970, stabilized in 1980 and remained level after about two-thirds of the population supports membership in the Church.

    These results are based on how people often say they attend church, which tend to exaggerate. But a collection of records in the churches, as summarized by Robert Putnam of Harvard University, shows the same trend (see Chart 4). So the figures from the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, which show that in 2000, some 141m Americans, or half the population were members of a church. Much, but is well below four-fifths who believe in God as a private matter. It is an active practice of religion that makes the difference between private belief and public consequences.

    Even among Protestant fundamentalists, public influence is incomplete. There was, for example, no large turnout of Christian conservatives in the 1998 elections mid-term, even if the Lewinsky scandal infuriated religious voters. After the impeachment of President Bill Clinton’s acquittal, wrote Paul Weyrich, head of the Moral Majority, the Washington Post saying that conservative Christians had “lost the war of cultures” button signs of growing influence.

    Nor is it clear how important religion in determining political and social evangelical Protestants. The largest concentration of these churches in the South among whites. But the white South was held conservative views on gay sexuality, government, defense, and so long before the moral majority was invented. It ‘just as likely that the social conservatism of evangelical churches has encouraged the opposite.

    Pew study tried to distinguish the role of religion in determining the point of view of the church on other factors, and found that only social and cultural attitudes (on things like abortion and gay sexuality) was a strong element of one religion. Even there, one of the largest demographic factors were more important.

    Do not believe a word

    Finally, although the number and composition of the charismatic churches has certainly grown, has been replaced by growth, who describe themselves as no religion. Since 1960, the number who call themselves secular (atheist, agnostic and do not belong to any organized religion) has nearly doubled. According to a study conducted by the City University of New York (CUNY), 14% of Americans between 18 and 34 describe themselves as “secular” and an additional 9% “a little ’secular’.

    Lay people are more likely to live on the Pacific coast or in north-east, in a city with a university education, male, single, and is leaning toward the Democrats or be politically independent. committed evangelicals are more likely to live in the South vote Republican, the lack of university education, live in cities or rural areas, and to be married women. In other words, sees America as the two tribes, one religious and one secular.

    But the truly distinctive feature of American religious area in the middle. Most Americans are members of the crusade of the Church of the register or to sit in the judgment miserable sinners. For them, the church is a matter of personal faith, not conservative activism. Their religion is mild.

    In 1965, according to a Gallup poll, half of respondents said the most important goal of his church has been teaching people to live a better life. Since then the proportion has increased almost three-quarters. It’s the biggest change in American religious life during the past 40 years.

    Alan Wolfe, in Boise Department of Religion at Boston College, said that American religion is unusual in two ways: not only are Americans more religious than Europeans, but they have no national church. Thank you to a separation of church and state, the country has nothing to compare with, for example, Catholic churches in Italy and Spain, or the Church of England. Americans are members of sects.

    The two types of religious exceptionalism are connected. More than in the economic sphere of private competing companies tend to generate wealth and activity, whereas monopoly firms have the opposite effect, either on religious sects competition generate a frenzy of activity and confidence levels, while state churches produce indifference.

    This has implications for the quality of the faith of Americans. Churches come and go with amazing speed. Statisticians of American Religious organizations continued to 187 names (and there were many others) between 1990 and 2000, 37 disappeared and 54 new appeared on the scene. The members and pastors, too, are constantly in motion. One study found that half of the pastors of so-called “mega-churches” (suburbs such as Saddleback, Sunday congregations of 2,000 or more) have been transferred from another denomination. According to the CUNY study, 16% of U.S. adults 33 people say they have changed their names. In some churches, the participation of new members was surprisingly high. In 2001, 30% of Pentecostals have joined another church and the remaining 19% were between Presbyterians, 24% and 25% went extinct.

    These limits beaten doctrinal purity, which could be expected in a new church. Instead, churches are trying to attract floating believers what Wade Clark Roof, a sociologist, calls “a generation of researchers.” According to Mr. Wolfe, American churches are therapeutic, not to judge. They emphasize “soft” qualities such as orientation and mutual aid, and not “hard” as sin and damnation.

    This means that the charismatic and evangelical churches are not typical for the whole religious life in America. If the model of public opinion is a bell-shaped, that the religious beliefs of the profile of the Volkswagen Beetle: a bump in front of evangelical Protestants, the largest of the congregations uncensorious bulge in the middle of a secular and stubby tail. This has weakened the idea that religion is running amok in America, or America for that will run amok all over the world.

    At Saddleback Church, Rick Warren preach that abortion is wrong. E ‘on the last Sunday of anti-abortion groups, has led to their cause as parishioners left the church. Warren told them not to return. He shared their views, but members of his Church, and today, maybe not. He did not want an abortion between the members and the important question of their relationship with God

    American patriotism is different from the European variety

    HERMAN BERMANIS right hand to take the oath of U.S. citizenship. Half a million to do the same every year, but this ceremony is unusual. E ‘held in Walter Reed military hospital, the presence of two board members, because Bermanis military expert, who was born in Micronesia, has had both legs and his left hand plunged into active service in Iraq. His right hand is all that late.

    Ceremony has a strong vision for the words: American patriotism. As de Tocqueville pointed out long ago, “the inhabitants of the United States speak a lot, who love their country.” Seymour Martin Lipset American exceptionalism begins his book with unusual academic observation: “I write as a proud American.” When a new study of American values, the Pew Research Centre, fully 91% of Americans who are very patriotic.

    Europeans have long been embarrassed by this aspect of American life. Tocqueville again: “There is nothing more annoying … that this irritable patriotism of Americans. “But since Sept. 11 Europeans were even more disturbed. They combine patriotism and militarism, intolerance and ethnic conflict. No wonder they see as alarming as the most powerful country the world.

    Yet the European and American patriotism is different. European patriotic pride of a nation, region or language they are born. You can not be non-French. In contrast, patriotic Americans a dual loyalty: both their country and the ideas it contains. “He loved his country,” Lincoln said of Henry Clay, “in part because he was his own country, but mainly because he was a free country.” As the English writer GK Chesterton said in 1922, America is the only country on the basis of a creed, written into its Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. People become Americans by adopting the belief, regardless of their place of birth, ancestry or language. And you can be anti-American by refusing belief.

    This dual character softens American patriotism. “My country, right or wrong” can be an American expression (ie a toast by Stephen Decatur, hero of the U.S. Navy), but only two Americans agree with him, according to Pew survey. Only two years after Sept. 11 than half of respondents supported the statement that “We should try to take revenge on any country that tries to take advantage of the United States.”

    However, there is a tendency in American public opinion that should give pause. Republicans have long been somewhat more likely than Democrats to say they are intensely patriotic, but the gap has widened dramatically, and now, by far the largest ever. In 2003, 71% of Republicans said they were intensely patriotic, compared with only 48% of Democrats. An even bigger gap opened in response to the proposition that “The best way to ensure peace is through military force.” The number of Democrats who agree with that sentiment fell 55% in 2002 to 44% this year.

    difference in intensity may reflect different attitudes to the war in Iraq, the domestic effects that presumably fade with time. But the difference may also have to anticipate a more permanent division: more than a passion of loyalty, and patriotism is what is considered “correct.”

    American politics has become partisan and nastier

    The 2000 election was the third consecutive tie. Votes in the House of Representatives, the largest margin of victory between 1996 and 2000 was 1.3 percentage points only. Essentially, all presidential elections and the House came to a draw, 49:49.

    The 2002 elections, the medium term has resulted in a change. In House elections, Republicans won 51% of the vote, Democrats 46%. As Michael Barone, a political journalist, notes that the margin was not statistically significant, but politically, he had a big impact. Republicans captured the Senate, the first time that the president’s party has never won the upper house at this stage in the election cycle. They won 141 seats in the Legislature, giving Republicans a majority of state legislators for the first time since 1952. The party kept its majority among the state governors. In Washington, which controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency. The victory was quite unusual: most of the midterm elections to punish the party in power, especially in times of economic weakness. But is the harbinger of greater electoral breakthrough, the beginning of the end of the 50-50 nation?

    It can. Since the New Deal, there were more registered Democrats than Republicans. In the four years before Sept. 11, according to Pew Research Center, the Democrats had a slight advantage in party identification (34% of registered voters who described themselves as Democrats, 28% of Republicans). But immediately after the terrorist attacks Democratic membership had decreased significantly, and over the last two years, the parties were fairly balanced. There was a further increase in Republican identification after the war in Iraq earlier this year, so now the Republicans have an advantage in identifying parts for only the second time in 75 years (see Chart 5). September 11 seems to have been a turning point.

    But long-term trends have been helping Republican anyway. The defection of the most populated region of South America broke the old Democratic coalition. In 2002, Republicans won the South by a margin much larger than the landslide victory of 1994. The emergence of a class of investors (half of Americans own shares) the benefits of play, because the middle class shareholders tend to support Republican causes, such as the privatization of Social Security, federal pensions system.

    These long-term trends are remarkably strengthen the temporary gains. reform campaign in 2002, moved the party toward the benefits that will bring more money to individuals, which means that now the Republicans. Sophisticated computer programs have transformed the reorganization, the ability of the ruling party gerrymander district boundaries to state assemblies-from art to science. In 2002, Republicans controlled the election periods of three big states, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. By an amazing coincidence, the Gore-majority districts where the Republicans drew the new boundaries, the party won 11 seats more than in 2000.

    Breaking deadlock

    It is not difficult to see why Republican strategists believe their party may be about to break the deadlock 50-50. However, in general, the evidence is still against the idea that there has been a fundamental shift in electoral politics. The 2002 elections did not break the mold. For holders of winning as much as Republicans last year is unusual but not unprecedented. Democrats also won against all odds in 1998. As Gary Jacobson of the University of California at San Diego, says the success of Republicans in 2002 can largely be explained by special factors.

    At the time, Mr. Bush’s personal ratings highest of all presidential races away from its ratings on the economy. Usually, the two do not differ much. This implies that without the war against terrorism, which marked its popularity in all, what Mr. Bush had not been able to protect candidates Republican economic discontent. It is unlikely to apply in 2004. Bush’s popularity is also frightened the Democrats who set a particularly weak group of challengers. They have a couple more credible for them now.

    Normally, the established parties lose seats in midterm elections, as members of Congress squeak in marginal seats on the heels of a successful president. But Mr. Bush had no coat-tails in 2000 and in 2002 the Republicans were less vulnerable to losing seats. Added extraordinary degree of redistricting, and most Republican success in 2002 can be explained by the skills of the party shaking up an electorate largely balanced rather than a fundamental change in his favor. There was little evidence that voters were less polarized in 2002 than they were in 1996-2000.

    Fight opposite

    In a sense, it does not matter. If Mr. Bush hopes for a stable majority is within his reach, he can dash forward with an ambitious agenda. But it can also do it if he fears that partisan divisions are too deep to be overcome. If yes, was under his party’s political dominance is just one chance and he should enjoy it before closing.

    But he went way deep division of elections, how his policies or political president received and implemented. The appeal of Mr. Bush (or any Republican) to push for more extreme policies, and any Democrat to push for the opposite extreme. The gap also encourages partisan behavior of voters. The polarization may be the most important trend in American politics today.

    George Wallace, former governor of Alabama, said it was not worth a dime of difference between the parties. However, the increasing polarization in Congress. Republicans are twice as likely to follow the party line in the House and Senate as they were in 1975. The Democrats are about one and half times more likely. Ad hoc “coalitions of the willing” have become much rarer in domestic politics.

    Committees rampant partisanship in Congress. The heads of committees in place at least in words the minority party to propose legislation, but since acquiring Newt Gingrich in 1994, the partisan control has largely been the norm. Committee chairmen are now routinely squelch Democrats companies to influence legislation, leading to little squabbles and bad temper.

    Political Party is also evident in redistricting, which increased the number of safe houses for North Korean levels. In 2004, only 30-40 seats in Congress should be really competitive, one-quarter the number in the 1990s. Since 1964, the holders of the new House elected with over 60% of the vote increased from 58% to 77%. This makes the policy of Congress is more extreme.

    If your neighborhood is solid as a rock, has little reason to fear that voters evict you from going too far from their views. The main threat comes from party activists who tend to be more extreme in their views and can offer a rival in the primaries. Therefore, the dangers of drifting too far mid exceed drift too far toward the extremes. Partisan redistricting marginalizes centrist voters, aligns the views of the candidates more closely with the extremists on each side and political radical.

    Away from Capitol Hill, sponsorship has also increased in the lobby. Both sides attempted to control the lobbyists, the fourth branch of American government, but Republicans have gone better for Democrats. Every Tuesday, the cast of lobbyists in the office of Rick Santorum, the leader of the Senate Republican Conference, to discuss the hiring of a former Republican chief of staff here, is a pollster. Republicans place their protégés in the lobbying firms. Businesses to raise money to help Republican candidates get elected. Lawmakers then place their protégés in business. And so on.

    Above all, increased polarization in the electorate, as evidenced by a sharp decline in split-ticket voting (the election of a president from one party and a congressional representative of the other.) In 1972, 44% of Congressmen and women represented a different party than the candidate for president made the district. In 2000, the proportion was less than 20%.

    Indeed, independent voters seem to be disappearing. This may seem curious, because those who call themselves self-employed more likely to identify themselves as Democrats or Republicans. However, most of the so-called independent vote consistently one way or another. The White House estimated that less than a third of independent voters actually switched parties during the last three elections.

    With the decline of undecided voters, there seems less point in the management of the presidential campaigns to appeal to the average thin. Instead, elections have become a competition to mobilize major supporters. The elections of 2000 and 2002 were two races of participation.

    The end result is that politics has become a weapon of war. The most important thing is the size and blood-thirsty troops are captured neutral. Politicians to take the first opportunity to pursue weapons of mass destruction, such as the impeachment of Bill Clinton or the recall of Governor Gray Davis in California. You can no longer be at odds. Your enemy is a “stupid white men”, is guilty of “treason” living in the world “Lies and the Lying Liars that tell them (to name three titles this year, the best-selling political).

    Increased influence the public debate about the nature of partisan America for a decentralized political tradition, and President Bush himself. war is rooted in policy debates on key issues. In recent years, the Republicans are the party “exceptionalist” to celebrate the traditional American values ​​and emphasizes the features that make the country differ materially. Call that the special conservator.

    In contrast, the Democrats will be distributed. Mainstream Democrats, including members of the Clinton administration to go to other exceptionalism, the city-on-a-variety of the hill, as President Bush claims to play too. Others, particularly Howard Dean and the left seem to think that all types of exceptionality, such as a bad thing. Others embrace what might be called liberal, celebrating American exceptionalism egalitarian, anti-aristocratic heritage. In different ways, all these differences are based on values ​​or principles.

    Steamroller the enemy

    Instead of winning at any cost is not, or not necessarily. Take the 2002 elections to the Senate in Georgia on one of the worst campaign in living memory. Democrat Max Cleland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam, was accused of soft Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Culture victory can replace the arguments and values ​​as the conquest of the substance is needed.

    American political system is decentralized, with pride, their distinctive traditions state and national parties are loose coalitions of diverse groups coming together to take power. Fairness, by contrast, is a force that encourages the centralization of consistency. distinctive political traditions of the United States have been tested before, and survived. In the 20 th century, a time just as much partisanship in the voting and political behavior, the U.S. moved toward systems dominated by political parties in Europe family. However, there was less ideological coherence time, and no television or national groups in the media to reinforce a consistent message.

    Now a new restaurant is weaker. And at least from the Republican side, will be governed national organization, strict control of the White House, and more faithful to the President and ready to throw its weight around. In 2002 elections, the White House has intervened to persuade local parties in Minnesota, South Dakota and Georgia, to amend the Senate candidate. choice of the White House to win two of the three countries against the odds.

    This does not mean that the party structures have been strengthened. Them in terms of fundraising are weaker than they have been for most of American history. But the parties are ideologically more. And within the parties, the politicians are partisan and less diverse their backgrounds.

    As Bush himself, who has proved a polarizing president, better to consolidate the Republican base to expand. Two years after September 2001, approval of his own party for him was over 80%, but the democratic approval had fallen below 20%. This gap Bush surprising mark of division be even Bill Clinton, who suffered as the hostility of the Democratic Republicans that Mr Bush. But given that Clinton’s policies were more popular than him, Mr. Bush is in the other direction. His notes on the economy and tax cuts are lower than their levels of general approval. The next section explains why.

    How “exceptional” is George Bush?

    For a moment it seems that the attacks of September 11, 2001, had created a new opportunity for political leaders. New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, was transformed overnight from an efficiency, if cantankerous, director of a symbol of the city resistant. Bush could have followed. The Americans met with the president after the terrorist attacks. His speech at the time reflect the mood of national resolve. His stature as commander in chief has increased. However, Bush made no real attempt to unify the nation behind a national cause. He did not call for sacrifice, as Franklin Roosevelt did after Pearl Harbor. Asked what people can do for the nation in a time of crisis, Bush replied: Back to normal. Go shopping.

    This could perhaps be regarded as the failure of the President of the imagination. But there is another reason. President Bush says he wants the U.S. to promote universal values. In this sense, he is a city exceptionalist-on-the-Hill. He also supported the 2000 campaign that he would be “Uniter, not divider”. But his political character is too complex for both claim to be entirely convincing.

    There are two bushes George. One is ideological, that divide us, ready to tear up the rulebook and press firmly conservative politics. It is loved by the Bush Republicans, Democrats recoiled (see Table 6). The second is more gradual and sometimes more of each other. But Bush, who could count on the center, also has a surprisingly bold. His daring to provoke caution among voters who are not heavily tilted in favor or against him.

    Big-government conservatism

    Bush’s foreign policy shows the rule-book-destruct mode. Rejected the cornerstone of the diplomacy of the Cold War doctrine of containment, and is not willing to treat the states as legitimate simply because they are recognized internationally and stable. That puts him at odds not only with European countries, but with the traditions of the Cold War in U.S. diplomacy.

    In some areas of domestic policy, Bush was almost as large. The best example is the tax. As Bill Galston of the University of Maryland said, “Ronald Reagan believed government was the problem. George Bush believes that taxes are the problem.” Bush in fact, more radical, or more concentrated than its Republican predecessor. Mr. Reagan cut taxes in his first year, but rose later in light of the extension deficits. Bush cut into each of his first three years, despite the prospect that the third year of deficits as far as the eye can see.

    This year, total federal revenues was 17% of GDP, its lowest level since 1959, which was long before Medicare, Medicaid, education, federal and defense structure today. Bush’s fiscal policies are consistent with the “exceptionalist” see that in a twist on words of Thomas Jefferson, “the government that governs best, at least the taxes.” It increased the tax burden differences between the two sides of the Atlantic.

    And the other George Bush? This is what has created the largest new bureaucracy, from Harry Truman: The Department of Homeland Security. It is Bush who has pushed the federal government the powers of education, so far, managed by the state subject to annual testing of students and to increase federal spending for the control of these tests. And ‘one who has allowed the Justice Ministry arrest suspected terrorists to court supervision more or less.

    Bush is trying to establish a national energy policy to reduce dependence on foreign oil, who beat protectionist barriers in steel, which has signed a farm bill costing 180 billion dollars over ten years, created an office of the White House to promote marriage (probably the last thing a Conservative government must put its nose in). And it called on Congress to expand government health care for the elderly to cover some costs of prescription drugs adviser to President Clinton said Medicare case would be “the largest expansion of benefits government’s health since the Great Society.

  493. JohnnyBGood

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    Obama is doing this for a re-election the people are biting this none sense. It’s not even funny what political leaders have stooped to a level of anythingness is what I will label this you think to your self maybe they did kill him but why not show us the proof, he showed the so called Birth certificate and smokedscreened us with that one and now the fake killing, hell I say more power to the brother if George W Bush got away with stealing the election then why can’t he get away with this fake wars and fake Presidents all of them are liars!

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    On June 20, 2011 at 5:19 pm


    The true story: The reason Obama looks so concerned is because they are actually watching Seals annihilate the entire village in Kenya where Obama was born so that no witnesses are left, or maybe they were attacking the Kenyan hospital where he was born to destroy the birth certificate. Yeah that’s it.

  504. FlareKR

    On June 23, 2011 at 6:49 pm


    The credit goes to the Navy SEALs, Bush, and our brave men and women in the armed forces. We had the intel and his location since 2007 (with SEALs training since then on a mock up compound)! So it’s thanks to interrogation that we were able to find Bin Laden, it was only a matter of when to get him. Of course President Obama needed to save his bomb diving approval rating, what a better way to do it than going around saying “I killed Bin Laden and the Economy”. If this article is true, this even more hilarious, now we have more of an dunce than we couldn’t have imagined in the White House. I would’ve rather Hillary Clinton were President than this puppet.

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  506. MrsFreak

    On June 25, 2011 at 3:35 am


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  507. Oregon Randy

    On June 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm


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  508. Phoenix91

    On June 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm


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    On June 27, 2011 at 6:34 pm


    Good article! Though I personally believe Osama did not present a threat for a very long time and that it might have been possible to actually capture him, I am still not sure whether the U.S. leadership really wanted this. Too bad, because, in this way, we could have been able to organize a Nuremberg-style trial of Islamic terrorism.

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    On June 28, 2011 at 8:19 pm


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    On July 7, 2011 at 3:08 am


    How is everyone believing that this article is true? It seems they have singled out Obama on this one. Just to spread a rumor around that Obama is indecisive….maybe?

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    On July 8, 2011 at 3:04 pm


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    On July 9, 2011 at 12:32 pm


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    On July 10, 2011 at 6:06 pm


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    The most interesting thing about this article is the discussion it sparked. I’m not talking bad about the author, it’s just a picture of America’s political landscape…Two sides who believe wholeheartedly that they cannot possibly be wrong. Fact is, nobody really knows what the hell they are talking about if they aren’t in the room.

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  544. Glad 4 years is almost OVER

    On August 13, 2011 at 3:14 pm


    The PICTURE in the situation room. Obama looks like a second string Jr varsity player sitting on the Varsity bench waiting to get in the game that’s about to end or is already over. Look at the chair placement, obviously pulled up at the last moment barely in the power circle. Everyone else is relaxed an involved, Obama looks bewildered. ENOUGH SAID!

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    On August 24, 2011 at 3:32 pm


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    On October 24, 2011 at 7:04 am


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    On October 24, 2011 at 7:27 pm


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    On October 30, 2011 at 5:21 pm


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    On November 2, 2011 at 5:53 pm


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  574. Roberrific

    On November 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm


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  575. vandana7

    On November 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm


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    On December 16, 2011 at 6:16 pm


    The author is too busy legitimizing President Obama to understand the significance of the actual event. It’s not important that Obama was or was not the one who ordered the assassination of Bin Ladin, what is important is that Bin Ladin is dead. Obama wont have been the first President to self-aggrandize. In fact, it seems as if President Bush may have done this before. Anyone recall an inaccurate victory speech aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln? At least this time, the mission is actually accomplished.

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    On December 16, 2011 at 6:17 pm


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    On December 23, 2011 at 9:05 pm


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  590. Donna

    On December 27, 2011 at 10:26 am


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    On January 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm


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    On January 4, 2012 at 5:03 pm


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  593. anton

    On January 7, 2012 at 10:35 pm


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    On January 12, 2012 at 4:19 am


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    On January 17, 2012 at 4:02 pm


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    On March 24, 2012 at 12:56 pm


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    On April 4, 2012 at 12:06 am


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    On April 28, 2012 at 8:52 pm


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  632. Mary Syron

    On April 29, 2012 at 12:43 pm


    You are here: Home » Issues » White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011

    “What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.”

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

    What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

    Obama was playing golf and they were all kept waiting for him to give the go ahead. According to SEAL Target Geronimo by Chuck Pfarrer, the SEAL Teams were astounded when they returned to the US to find they had been outed. The SEALs had recovered hundreds of pounds of intelligence that could put Al Qaeda away for good. The mission could have been announced later… afte the SEALs neutralized the rest of Al Qaeda’s leadership. Television braggarts made almost ALL this intelligence meaningless by confirming that the SEALs had taken it.

    They placed families of the SEALs at risk by naming the unit and it’s location. TV crews went so far as to cruise neighborhoods in Virgina Beach searching for a SEAL family.

    Obama would have us think HE pulled the trigger to accomplish this mission. No pictures. No proof. And six months later two Chinnok helicopters were shot out of the sky killing MANY SEALs and Specials Ops personnel… Obama hasn’t said a single word about that.

    I suggest you get your facts straight and try to publish the TRUTH for a change.

  633. Mary Syron

    On April 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm


    You are here: Home » Issues » White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011

    \”What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.\”

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

    What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

    Obama was playing golf and they were all kept waiting for him to give the go ahead. According to SEAL Target Geronimo by Chuck Pfarrer, the SEAL Teams were astounded when they returned to the US to find they had been outed. The SEALs had recovered hundreds of pounds of intelligence that could put Al Qaeda away for good. The mission could have been announced later… afte the SEALs neutralized the rest of Al Qaeda\’s leadership. Television braggarts made almost ALL this intelligence meaningless by confirming that the SEALs had taken it.

    They placed families of the SEALs at risk by naming the unit and it\’s location. TV crews went so far as to cruise neighborhoods in Virgina Beach searching for a SEAL family.

    Obama would have us think HE pulled the trigger to accomplish this mission. No pictures. No proof. And six months later two Chinnok helicopters were shot out of the sky killing MANY SEALs and Specials Ops personnel… Obama hasn\’t said a single word about that.

    I suggest you get your facts straight and try to publish the TRUTH for a change.

  634. MaryS

    On April 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm


    You are here: Home » Issues » White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011

    \\\”What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.\\\”

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

    What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

    Obama was playing golf and they were all kept waiting for him to give the go ahead. According to SEAL Target Geronimo by Chuck Pfarrer, the SEAL Teams were astounded when they returned to the US to find they had been outed. The SEALs had recovered hundreds of pounds of intelligence that could put Al Qaeda away for good. The mission could have been announced later… afte the SEALs neutralized the rest of Al Qaeda\\\’s leadership. Television braggarts made almost ALL this intelligence meaningless by confirming that the SEALs had taken it.

    They placed families of the SEALs at risk by naming the unit and it\\\’s location. TV crews went so far as to cruise neighborhoods in Virgina Beach searching for a SEAL family.

    Obama would have us think HE pulled the trigger to accomplish this mission. No pictures. No proof. And six months later two Chinnok helicopters were shot out of the sky killing MANY SEALs and Specials Ops personnel… Obama hasn\\\’t said a single word about that.

    I suggest you get your facts straight and try to publish the TRUTH for a change.

  635. MaryS

    On April 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm


    You are here: Home » Issues » White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
    by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011

    \\\\\\\”What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.\\\\\\\”

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

    What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

    Obama was playing golf and they were all kept waiting for him to give the go ahead. According to SEAL Target Geronimo by Chuck Pfarrer, the SEAL Teams were astounded when they returned to the US to find they had been outed. The SEALs had recovered hundreds of pounds of intelligence that could put Al Qaeda away for good. The mission could have been announced later… afte the SEALs neutralized the rest of Al Qaeda\\\\\\\’s leadership. Television braggarts made almost ALL this intelligence meaningless by confirming that the SEALs had taken it.

    They placed families of the SEALs at risk by naming the unit and it\\\\\\\’s location. TV crews went so far as to cruise neighborhoods in Virgina Beach searching for a SEAL family.

    Obama would have us think HE pulled the trigger to accomplish this mission. No pictures. No proof. And six months later two Chinnok helicopters were shot out of the sky killing MANY SEALs and Specials Ops personnel… Obama hasn\\\\\\\’t said a single word about that.

    I suggest you get your facts straight and try to publish the TRUTH for a change.

  636. Augusta Gillard

    On May 2, 2012 at 6:07 pm


    Sounds like a bunch of bunk. Bush had him in Bora Bora and let him go so who’s to say. I still think the commander and chief has the last say.

  637. jitmukherjii

    On May 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm


    Is this true? I so, US Govt should take more security measures.

  638. G Cruz

    On May 7, 2012 at 12:05 am


    This story makes sense, look who as left the WH since the raid, Daley and Gates.

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    On May 15, 2012 at 12:17 pm


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    On May 20, 2012 at 6:21 am


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  649. Ana

    On May 26, 2012 at 6:50 pm


    Obama has done nothing for this country so far but ruined it, all the racists who voted for color instead of virtue are now their slaves and all the corruption is on their head. They will give an account to God for supporting this monster. Communism-Islamic alliance will work if we, the only ones with some discernment and those who love freedom, do not do something about it.

  650. stevetheblogger

    On May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm


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  651. fishfry aka Elizabeth Figueroa

    On June 1, 2012 at 12:24 pm


    The President at this time has tarnished the office. It is with my since wishes that he is not re elected, for he has don’t nothing for this country, and continues to bring us down.
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  661. Hair Majesty

    On August 28, 2012 at 7:22 am


    People will try anything to discredit President Barack Obama fact is it happened on his watch so no matter how confused they say he appeared this all took place while he held the highest office in the land. I don’t recall ever seing him looking confused and nor do the nay sayers I would suggest those in opposition of the President take a look at the specials they are running in tv “getting to know Mitt Romney” People dont change cirrcumstance do and if you take the time to view some the lastest tv interviews with Mitt Romey you will realize like many others have it’s a stab in the dark. You can not be certian of his agenda mainly because his position changes depending on his opposition. When he ran against Ted Kennedy his views were pro choice this very same man while running the 2002 Olympics over stated the economics troubles that faced the Olympics in order to boost his position and to be seen as a savior of sorts.If you listen to the oppinions of the many people who worked sided by side with Mr. Romney you would have to say that you atleast question his motives.

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  663. donna

    On September 5, 2012 at 10:22 am


    since Osama bin laden was dead since 2003 you wonder who was really killed.

    Obama sure does look scared in that photo, probably because he was thinking his career was over if this lie didn’t fly.

    Bhutto announced the death of Bin Laden in 2003 and there was an obituary for him in Egyptian Newspapers.

    Obama was afraid that the Birther’s had enough evidence against him to throw him out of the office he should have never occupied.

  664. Sangita Karki

    On September 7, 2012 at 1:52 am


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    How does the CIA director Leon Paneta override the directives of the commander in chief ? How does he do it without the National security adviser and chairman joint chiefs,? Is the ghost writer suggesting mutiny or insurbordination ? Are we back to the JFK era ? . Any secret operation must have a cover of counterintuitive
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  669. Stephen

    On September 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm


    The delays compromised the mission. When it finally took place, the target area in Pakistan was in a warmer part of the year. But a helicopter’s performance is reduced by higher air temperature (“hot and high” environment):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Execution_of_the_operation

    This caused the loss of control and crash of a mission helicopter that was at a low altitude over the target. The commandos were not seriously injured, but the element of surprise was lost. Also, that helicopter could not fly out. The commandos attempted to destroy it, but at least the tail rotor section and exterior fragments survived. The helicopter was a secret stealth model. The crash represents a significant military intelligence gain for China and other countries.

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  673. Stephen

    On October 4, 2012 at 1:58 pm


    Many people have been skeptical of the Ulsterman article. But there is another article, when combined with my comment on Sept. 26, 2012, that lends support to Ulsterman’s account.

    The article, “Getting Bin Laden” is at http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle?currentPage=all

    It says that a few days after the mission, Obama traveled to Fort Campbell, Kentucky and received a mission briefing. He asked whether the high air temperature had contributed to the crash.

    Apparently, he had previously been informed that the high temperature had been at the least a factor in the crash. So why would he ask about it at Fort Campbell? The Ulsterman article (“Obama Hesitated . . . ”) claims that he had delayed the mission. My comment pointed out that when it finally took place, the target area in Pakistan was in a warmer part of the year. Obama may have feared that his delaying could be blamed for the crash, and wanted to see just how strong was the connection between the temperature and the crash.

  674. highpriestess

    On October 6, 2012 at 9:27 am


    Still commenting on this sham of a sham?? Bin Laden was dead in 2003. This was all done to take the media hye and heat off of the birthers who were proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama was born in Kenya, as he hmself says in a national geographic magazine back in the 90’s.

    Panetta did nothing. This was a black ops against someone, and we will never know who, becaus Bin Laden’s body was on ice.

    There was an obituary in the Cairo News when Bin Laden died stating the death of Bin Laden back in Dec of 2003.

    So once again a big lie to the American people, and you jerk offs will vote for Obama, the Manchurian candidate once again.

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