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The Pisces Man

The Pisces man is like winning the lottery of either two extremes.

He is either the most creatively successful or the dreamiest vagabond you’d ever want to meet. On the one hand, the Pisces man can conjure up the most unique business ideas, full of twists and turns that only the most brilliamennt could imagine. Unfortunately, there are just as many Pisces men that will dive into a salty scheme head first without any sort of well-thought out plan B. This would either mean a life of fame and fortune or a legacy of financial ruin. It really all depends on the ability of the Pisces Man to distinguish between that fine line of dream and consequences. The right woman behind managing his affairs can make all the difference. A woman who will be richly rewarded not just by monetary gains but by the most passionate and loyal of lovers.

The Pimansces man is most tender. He will have the distinct advantage of looking deep into your eyes and readily finding your soul. A poetic spirit is he who can hold your hand and guide you through the most intense of times with the most unshakable hope. He instinctively knows how to always aim for the moon, and as luck would have it, he will hit his mark every time. It’s not that the Pisces man lacks ambition, sort to speak, it’s that he realizes, more than most, that it takes very little in this world to be truly happy. As long as there is a steady roof overhead, and a table set with a fabulous feast, he will truly wonder what more could anyone want.

His love for you will be immeasurable. The Pisces man is known to proudly proclaim his lovers name often. So often, in fact, that his friends will envy his adoring appreciation. There is no man that is happier in spouting his partners accomplishments and successes as the Pisces man. There is also no man, who’s pride is shaken, if his love earns more money or is better known than he. The Pisces man is very comfortable in himself, and doesn’t possess the usual male persona of needing to brag. His children and his wife are enough to satisfy any and all of his desires and sincerely sees their love as his greatest achievement.

The Pisces man is also a great friend indeed. He will hold his opinions until he knows all the facts. He will fight for those unjustly accused and dispute any claims made of their dishonor. The Pisces man will always feel your pain and compassionately be able to identify with you. A most sympathetic man who will value your hardships and sincerely wish your struggles gone. If you choose to confide in this remarkable man, be secure in knowing, your secrets are safe and held close to his heart. If there is a possibility that he can help you, know that he will.

In his quest for genuine awareness, the Pisces man desires to search out his spirit in his own time. Meditation is necessary to figure out which road he must travel. He will at all times value your view. Always keep him aware of how much you admire and adore him. He is sometimes in a private battle with his boundaries, afraid to test his own strengths. That’s where you come in, kind words hold immense power to nurturing his being. Choose your words carefully, and understand the influence they carry. You mean the world to him and in your eyes he must realize your respect for him. The rewards you will reap will be grand. Romance, incredible companionship and an ever-lasting soul-mate will be what you will find. Dreams do come true, you know, any real Pisces manmen will show you how to find them, and the paradise in which they exist.

Pisces Celebrities

Kurt Cobain: Born February 20, 1967

Johnny Cash: Born February 26, 1932

Jon Bon-Jovi: Born March 2, 1962

George Harrison: Born February 25, 1943

James Taylor: Born March 12, 1948

William H. Macy: Born March 13, 1950

Kurt Russell: Born March 17, 1951

Rob Lowe: Born March 17, 1964

Bruce Willis: Born March 9, 1955

Spike Lee: Born March 20, 1957

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  1. krystle

    On October 28, 2008 at 4:17 pm


    well i can say that my pisces husband is nothing like
    this he is totally the opposite of this! He has his commercial drivers license and i am a customer service rep and i am planning on getting into the nursing fields and he told me when you start making more than me i will step up my game and make more! you will never make more than me!

  2. Sheena Ricarte

    On November 14, 2008 at 10:29 pm


    I don’t know if I would like a Pisces husband or a Scorpio husband. I’m a Piscean myself and I am after a stable relationship – like everything is spick and span until hell freezes. A Pisces man is easy, easygoing, simple, and contented with whatever his lot or plight is. Pisces men are SMART. They are DREAMY AND LOVE TO THINK! They are THINKERS. Also, they are loners. Deep. Pisces men are usually lazy though and absent-minded. I have met Pisces men and they seem to lack that GREED and AMBITION which I hope to get from a husband. Hahaha! But the best thing that I like about Pisces men is that WE ARE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. You know, THE SAME PLANET. THE SAME STAR, that we could read each other’s minds, each others’ eyes, each others’ heart, each others’ intentions, motives, etc. EASILY!! I don’t need to communicate that hard in order for him to completely understand me. Pisces men are intuitive. I don’t have to explain myself too much to him because he can easily read between the lines. Sort of a mental telepathy, mind-reading kind of thing.

    Scorpio men, on the other hand, are almost the same as Pisces men – emotional water signs. However, the Scorpio man is quite HATEFUL. I almost always think that he is plotting against me, like one day, he will tell me that he has found another, something like that! Also, he has kept me hanging since 6 years ago, hence, I found it appropriate to hang on, linger and at the same time pester him. Bug him. Hahaha!

    I don’t know. What the heck. I hope I will find a man who will provide me with all the world’s security. I would like to be emotionally secured. Like I can just sleep at night peacefully without having to think about anything. I would like someone who is a TALKER and an INTELLECTUALLY SOPHISTICATED human being. Like we can talk about anything I LIKE. And share THE SAME things. Also, I would like someone who is ADVENTUROUS. Like we can really play around, horse around, treat this planet as our playground. I LOVE TO HAVE FUN. Boredom kills me like hell. I would like a very ADVENTUROUS and fun-loving husband. In that way, I don’t have to be sad and alone in this messy, sinister world. *CRYING LIKE HELL*

  3. Sheena Ricarte

    On November 17, 2008 at 12:46 am


    When I get married, he is either a Pisces or a Scorpio, and an Englishman or a Japanese. Highly sophisticated, civilized, educated, and RICH. Bwahaha.

  4. rccola

    On November 22, 2008 at 5:10 pm


    i am with a pisces man! for a year now,and he didnt even forget our 1yr anniversary. im going to keep my fingers crossed for #2. he is a sweety, very ambitious, intelligent, and i never know what he is going to be on at any given moment(spontaneous). thats why im attracted to him. him being in a committed relationship is what he longs for but i know that those words scare him. I AM….(this isnt about me),so basically he is just naturally that way. he is a great father and does so much for people in general. you take the good/bad with him but his good DEFINITELY out-shines his bad. with a pisces man (at least this one), it is worth the risk. if for nothing more than a great friend! but im pushing for a lifelong companion, husband.

  5. Jennae

    On November 25, 2008 at 3:40 am


    I am with a pisces man and have been for almost a year now. And oh boy is it ever true that they are deep – they like to think and he needs his “space”, ie: man time. Which works great for me because I am a Libra and although technically we are not two compatible signs, I think both of us are so in to the idea of finally finding “the one”, we’ve disregarded as much. He is the type that will say the same phrases at the same moment as me, he knows what I am thinking or when I am upset. He soothes like none other and makes me feel like anything is possible. He is emotional and will cry at times, like during a movie or when he is deeply moved by something. He is always going to remember important anniversaries and he is extremely romantic – flowers, cards, dinners, the whole nine yards. I also heard they are usually very in to feet – both their own and their lady’s. Mine definitely fits that bill as well. He is extremely hard on himself at times and others he is very passive. They love their tubs (in the bathroom that is) to be extremely clean because that is their sanctuary. They also love seafood, the color blue, anything that has to do with water, and “foot” sports, like ice hockey or soccer. I want to marry this one, and he certainly does a good job of making me think he wants the same as well.

  6. Leo for life

    On December 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm


    Well my pisces man is something alright, he’s very selfish – only thinks of himself, lazy, super sensitive – sometimes in a bad way – always look at other people’s faults but very slow to admit his faults; however, I still do love him – at first it was like the princess has finally found her prince. I still love him however, I’m seeing him for who he truly is. He can be sweet at times; however, needs alot of lone time; at first it use to upset me; however, I am a leo and I have several friends in which I talk too over the phone alot; kinda leave him to himself in which he’s made comments about. What I don’t understand if you want them to do something you have to do the opposite – if I say I want to be alone – he will come in and talk too me. Would I date another pisces man? Probably not, we’ve been dating now for about 10 1/2 months. We view things very differently; anytime I want guess what he’s thinking? 9 times out of 10 its the opposite of what I am thinking. I don’t know if I see a future i.e. marriage yet, I’m waiting to see if he becomes less selfish; if not – this Leo girl is gone.

  7. Smiley

    On January 8, 2009 at 3:30 am


    I have been messing with a pisces since august23. day b4 my bday and I must say that the love between us is strong but is so hard to hold on to. I am a virgo. We broke up in october because he got jealous of my best freind in which is a male and was afraid that he would take him away from me. We got back together. He started talking about selling drugs and I tried to show him the better side of life. Lets just say that pushed him away from me. I accept and love and support him in all that he did but I see him going down a path that is going to mess his life up with the choices that he is making. Can you say difficult!!! I love him so much though. And I have never felt something so strong. I think I am going to try to make this work 1 last time after a few months go pass and we get some time apart. Its like. Wen we are together the love is so strong. unexplanable connection. Then it just seems like things just start to go down hill. I want to give it a shot one more time. And try something that we have not tried,,,,,,,,,, COMPROMISING!!! I think if we just sat down and talked things over it would work. I just dont want us to be apart. 1 thing I have noticed about pisces is that they are afraid of the word marriage!!! And they go the extra mile just to make you happy. Every guy that I have came across has been a pisces. Crazy huh??? I dunno. I think I need to work on my choice of words and learn to show how much i care a little bit more. If anyone has any ideas from experience on how to make a female virgo and a pisces male relationship work please respond. I love him so much and I dont want to lose him

  8. aqua

    On January 14, 2009 at 11:30 am


    Smiley-

    i don’t think you should “sit down and talk”, pisces men don’t like any kind of demands. If you want him and need his company you should go with their flow and from time to time let him know how you feel but in a brief manner. They don’t like to feel pressured. These men are not stable and if you want to deal with then you really need to “sit down” with yourself and decide what it is that you’re getting out of this relationship. If anything, become alert of how manipulative they are and realize that they are playing you to their own advantage. Be cautious and play your cards right.
    i can relate as to how they make us women feel. They are sensitive men which make women connect with them, but at the end they are men; more ruthless and selfish. Don’t get hurt. If you care about him help him from a distance, but don’t get attached to a person that is not aware of his own feelings so therefore will never take your feelings into consideration. Dealing with these type of males is pretty much dealing with a bad mannered little boy, with no principles and standards. They carry every single form of emotion and scars from the past, which reflects on how careless they are. They’ve live with the notion that reality is harsh and then they are harsh back to the vulnerable. toughen up and deal with their mess if you want to.

  9. condanita

    On January 20, 2009 at 3:03 pm


    I married a pices man 3 yrs ago. Boy, my life has been a living hell. NOt knowing at any given moment what to expect next from this man. I see that pices are very selfish and manipulative. Always wanting everything for themselves. Very jealous of your accomplishments and afraid to venture out for their own. Always living in the past and you must pay for the hurt of it. I, most of the time feel like a mother with a little boy. He can be caring when he wants something, other wise leave him alone. By the way, I am a Leo.True fire and uugg! boring water.

  10. Beauty Queen

    On January 26, 2009 at 12:00 pm


    I met a pisces man 2 1/2 months ago. At first everything was so hot from both sides. We are in 2 different countries but I believe in crossing obstacles. We stayed in touch by phone nut I put more effort on calling than he did. Yet we used to talk 3,4, even 5 times a day. He is very sensitive, caring, but can be selfish, and lonely at many times. He does not express himself often.
    I spent the holidays with him and they were GREAT! but 2 days after i can back home….he started acting differently and saying things like: we do not know what the future holds, I do not want u to suffer with me…..etc. Now we barely talk 2 or 3 times a week. It is driving me crazy and he is coming up with excuses that his phone is broken, and he will be getting a new phone in 1 week. Is his care for me history? does he still care? do they play games? how can u tell our affair is over?
    Did any of you experienced this before…what shall I do? I am crazy in love with him.

  11. Desert Rose

    On February 3, 2009 at 6:40 am


    Wow these messages are on point. I am a Cancer woman in love with a Pisces man. It is a new thing with me for one he is younger than I. I have never dated a younger man.From the beginning our eyes met and I was not buying nothing he had to say because I was not interested at the time.He was actually talking with one of my friends about business but still looking at me out of the side of his eye (so to speak). I remember starting to say good by to my friend and walk away only for him to come behind and and want to chat. I gave him my email and we started chatting. Immediately, he told me I was the one…We then through the course of several weeks continued to email and we soon met up….WOW did we meet up…I don’t know what it is about a Pisces but chemistry with a Cancer is unexplainable.As I continue to look deeper into his eyes they can tell alot…They are souls with alot on hidden pain,true thinkers all the time…I try to figure him out only to know I will never figure him out….Cancers are sensitive…(I truly am) I wear my heart deep. So try to figure him out puzzles me. Only because of past relationships of painful outcomes. I feel I know what he is thinking and how is heart feels…I don’t know why I just know. Loving him is always with passion I think that is a plus in that department but I also think he has the capabilities to be a loner I just have not experienced it yet…All is well right now but reading the advice through the previous emails I need to keep my eyes open

  12. Beauty Queen

    On February 3, 2009 at 5:20 pm


    I do not understand why Pisces have a problem expressing themselves or telling you what is on their mind? They are also lazy and like you to chase them!!At least the one I have is.
    He says he will do one thing then he contradicts himself the next item we talk…what is wrong with them! Are you weak? Afraid? care too much not to lose the person so they will say anything to keep “cancer woman around”? Anyone’s advice.

  13. Karla

    On February 23, 2009 at 8:50 am


    For #12 and others who refer to Pisces as specifically “lazy”, there really IS something you need to understand — Pisces men and women are not so much “lazy” as constantly “thinking”. That which intrudes on thoughts can even be offensive sometimes. The contradiction — “I’m going to do ‘this or that’” and then not doing it is more about forgetfulness or fickleness (can be either or both) and not about being weak or afraid. As a Pisces female beginning a relationship with a Pisces male, I am loving his warmth and his honest adoration. I adore him just as much. My ex husband was an Aquarius. *shudder* — Not real big on sensitivity, faithfulness or intimacy.

    It takes a very loving heart to be with a Pisces but if you set out to make a Pisces person feel wonderful, you will be rewarded ten times over.

  14. Beauty Queen

    On February 24, 2009 at 7:07 pm


    Thank you for your reply. I am a cancer woman and we tend to be demanding at times and clingy. i noticed that my Pisces man does not handle pressure well. We used to talk 4-5 times a day then after I spent the holidays with him. He changed and now I am lucky if we talk 2 or 3 times per week. Lately I was upset that he does not call much, accused him of not caring enough, and he started telling me, if he is causing me so much pain like this then may be I should think about not talking to him. This was 2 weeks ago and I tried initially calling him 10 times per day and texting him but all he would not take my cal. Finally after 2 weeks, he took one of my calls and he was cold, I was still being warm and told him that I have been thinking of him and miss him and I want his happiness. All he could do is thank me and asked how I am doing then we laughed for a minute and the call ended. I care so much about him. Being a cancer, we got along well romantically and he is the first man I meet that can understand me on an emotional and psychological level. He gave me hope in life and I had a great memories with him. I have trouble believing it may be over and letting go. Is this relationship over? Will he tell me if it is over? Is he hurt from me? Can I rekindle it back? I really love him and do not want to lose him…what can I do and will he come back? Help me win his heart back PLEASE!

  15. A

    On February 27, 2009 at 11:48 pm


    Pisces men, are the best kind to have. I really screwed up one time with this Pisces that I have been talking to..REALLY SCREWED UP…I broke his heart, made him cry..and acted like it didn’t even phase me..and he ended up..in a few days..forgiving me for what I did..

    He does everything for me..without me even asking…Holds the door open..washes my dishes..cooks me dinner..puts on my shoes when I’m feeling lazy..but it’s not like I don’t thank him with kisses, cause I do.

    We never argue..we are really playful with each other..nonstop smiles..hugs and kisses…we tease each other..and just get along really well..

    Pisces love the little things. And that’s what matters most. There isn’t a better sign to be with..and it’s funny, because I’m a sagittarius.

  16. Confused..

    On February 28, 2009 at 5:27 pm


    I am a pisces female. And to top it all off I’m also a nurse.. Have been at my job for many years and have met all kinds of different people.. Then oneday I got a call to see a patient at home, although I was really busy that day and really didn’t have the time I said I would do it, but have been very confused ever since..

    It turns out this man who was also a pisces and damn cute to top it all off.. I saw him as a patient for several months.. We both knew we had some kind of connection but being a nurse I couldn’t cross that line.. When he was better we started to talk a lot more.. He is wonderful and makes me smile.. At times even makes me feel like a kid again.. We are so good together.. But for some reason we have something that is stopping us from getting to that “point”. We miss each other when we’re not together but can’t seem to get past this point..

    I want him so badly.. I know we are from different worlds but I feel that I can meet him in the middle and allow our worlds to combind just not sure how to make him see that it can work..

    If anyone knows how I can talk to him, make him understand that sometimes love is all u need.. It doesn’t matter that I make more money or live in a fancy place.. I would give it all up to be with this man..

  17. Pisces Man...

    On February 28, 2009 at 7:23 pm


    Confused…

    He is probably intimidated by your status (wealth, career, etc).

    But I think in this case – if you are blunt and put it out there – your real feelings then he will come to you.

    As you are a Pisces as well – I know how hard it is to put our emotions out to the world. Your pisces guy might swim away a bit out of fear – but after some thought he may come back to you with a new energy and ready to pursue a relationship.

    Don’t let this opportunity slip away! Pisces love to miss golden opportunities at real happiness and then spend the rest of their lives dreaming about what might have been…

    It’s tough being a fish. :(

    )-(

  18. confused..

    On February 28, 2009 at 10:37 pm


    Pisces man..

    Thank you..
    I have tried to tell him how I feel.. But as you know pisces aren’t very good at it… I know he cares about me.. I see it in his eyes, feel it in his touch and hear it in his voice…

    I’ve never felt this kind of connection with anybody, he truely means the world to me.. I didn’t realize how alike pisces men and women are.. But I still believe that no matter what sign men have pride when it comes to their girl making more than they do.. I have told him many times it means nothing.. he has so much more to offer me..

    I will take your advice and try to tell him exactly how I feel.. I just don’t want to push him away… I want to bring him closer..
    Thank you again..

  19. Beauty Queen

    On March 1, 2009 at 1:43 pm


    My Pisces man, I want him back!!! We did not officially break up and say that we are finished but he is acting like it. I doubted his sincerity, and I apologized many times but he still ignores my calls for a week or two at times. I noticed in the past that when I stood strong with him then he followed and straightened his act. How do you recommend I treat him now other than ignoring him? It has been a week since we spoke. He definitely KNOWS how much I care about him and miss him and he tells me “I am sitting comfortably in ur heart and nothing can take me out”. How do I change this thought in his mind? He also tends to hang up the phone in the midst of our conversation. Are they known to be rude? Why do they hurt others who are kind to them? If I ignore him, will he come back to me or is it a at a point of no return?
    I should note, his birthday is coming up and I am flying over there to surprise him on his birthday. he know I am coming but does not know when nor did he care to ask. What do u think?

  20. Spanish Pisces

    On March 7, 2009 at 4:22 am


    To Beauty Queen.

    I believe your man is just very insecure.
    You see, us pisces are naturally VERY insecure and have a low self esteem and we do need to “feel” all is perfect before we can commit.
    Our problem is that we live to love, and we love to live, so as soon as some feelings are born with someone , we jump into that relationship full force, but as the days / weeks pass and we learn more of that girl , we may get scared or feel there is “something wrong” but since we feel a lot of passion for that person , we struggle beween our love and passion , and our feeling of uneasyness and insecurity.

    Pisces man attracts a lot of different women , and can have short intense passionate relationships with almost any of them
    but it takes truly a very special woman to get a hold of him for long term and make him commit.

    Us pisces, need a woman that is able to lead, dominate us, but without smothering us , someone that gives us our so needed solitude and freedom , but that still constantly makes us feel loved and needed.

    Making a pisces commit / keepin him is not an easy task , but if you manage to , you are in for the most loving, adoring partner.

  21. Beauty Queen

    On March 7, 2009 at 2:34 pm


    Spanish Pisces, thank you for the feedback. He never try to chase me or call. If I don’t call him, then we will not speak. Also, sometimes if I call him, he does not answer my call. It has been almost 2 weeks now since we spoke and I intentionally stopped calling him or text him a week ago. Last time we spoke he acted very cold :( I am afraid that his insecurities and fear of commitment ran him away from me. might i remind you his birthday is coming up and I am planning to surprise him by showing up unexpectedly!!!I do not want to lose him but I guess if he is into someone else or the passion died then I do not have a choice. How do I re-kindle our flame? Did I lose him forever? He also seem to be motivated with gifts and money. I like him …love him a lot and there isn’t a day that passes by without me thinking of him. Is this a game he is playing to manipulate me or he just finished with us?? Thank you.

  22. Ivy

    On March 7, 2009 at 7:19 pm


    PLEASE READ, PLEASE READ, PLEASE READ.

    I am a 45 year-old Cap that is WAITING TO EXHALE. I met my mature (age 54) Pisces in 1998. I was young, not impressionable, emotionally mature, and had no idea what I was getting into. My Pisces connection brought smiles, joy, and inconsistencies. My guy/friend/whatever has a somewhat high profile gig working in sports management. His profession, the fact that he was a recent divorcee, and his Pisces characteristics often made me feel insecure about the relatiosnhip. Insecurity is not something I battle with. I am a confident, disciplined, focused, and often in control Capricorn. This relationship took me to a place that had me questioning whether I was truly this strong woman that I professed to be.

    The majority of our relationship consisted of me watching him from the second row while he managed a game on the court. For two years he was happy. He had his 24/7 sports gig, me, and our relationship on his CRAZY Pisces terms. For two years I was happy, angry, demanding, and holding on for MY CHANGE. It never came.

    Fast forward 2000. My guy became distant, our relationship was basically over, and he literally disappered. One day I received a call from a friend saying he read in the sports section that my guy had accepted a position in another state. My heart was on the ground, and I was beyond shocked. But, I pulled myself together, chalked it up to a life experience, and moved on.

    Fast forward January 1, 2004. I received a call from Mr. Pisces saying something crazy like “WHATEVER HAPPENED TO US. MY PARENTS, AND FAMILY WANTED TO KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED TO YOU AND I”. I verbally let him have it, and then hung up.

    Fast forward November 2007. I was on line, and got this weird feeling in the pit of my stomach that I should call him. I fought it for 2 days. So I went to the ESPN site, and searched for his contact information. I called, we spoke, and it was as if time never passed. We talked as if we were 15 year-old teenagers. He immediately began to apoligize, said he was a coward, and that he left my city abruptly for a job offer. He further stated that our next step would have been marriage, but his career took precedence. He invited me to visit him, then he did the CRAZY Pisces disappering act. We emailed for a while, then I called it quits.

    Fast forward January 4, 2009. I texted him and said “Hey Mr. disappearing act”. He called, and started laughing (We always had intense laughter. He loved my Cap quick wit). Once again, we were 15. At this point I had recently turned 45, and told myself I was going to email him all of may emotions throughout the various years. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

    After receipt of my letter, we spoke for two hours. He said we should have gotten married ten years prior. I told him it wasn’t Gods will. He replied by saying “You and I are not over”. He also said “We are good for each other”, and that he wants to be married.

    Today, I take his statements with a grain of salt. I will only be moved by his actions, not what he says. We’ve had a few brief emails, and one tele discussion. He said he wanted to see me (but you know the CRAZY sports gig makes things difficult), and talked about his continued attraction towards me.

    I am CRAZY IN LOVE WITH THIS MAN. But, if he and I are not meant to be, I will not die. I have invested nothing physically, and I will continue to leave my heart open for the HUSBAND GOD HAS CREATED FOR ME.

    P.S Number 8, and number 21 are totally on point.
    P.S2 Any one who finds my story interesting, please comment. Thanks for reading.

  23. Beauty Queen

    On March 8, 2009 at 2:44 pm


    Dear Ivy,

    I find it very interesting that it is consistent with what I have been experiencing with my man. Yes, one time I asked him why he does not pick up the phone when I call him sometimes, he said “He picks it up when he feels like it” I think Pisces men like to be in control sometimes and have things on their own terms. He is also very materialistic I noticed. The good thing from what you said is that if our relationship is over before it even started :) then there is a chance he will come around someday if never. As a cancer woman, this has been very draining on my emotions, and thoughts. We do anything for the person we love and we fall in love easily. We are compatible with Pisces and Scorpio but I noticed my man take advantage of this. When we are together, passion, feelings,…extremely hot!!! When we are apart in different countries as we are, the phone is his control game. Every time I threatened that I will not come over and see him or end the relationship, he would say “well that is up to you but it will not only be my loss”. He knows I love him VERY much so now it has been 2 weeks since we last spoke and I did not attempt to call him for 1 week now so I want to show him, that I can live with him or without him. I got VERY frustrated with how he says he cares about me but yet does not answer my calls, texts even when I tell him I have been crying over him. I know I told him tooooooo much about me. Lesson learned. Any advice how I can proceed with him? Will he be happy when he sees me unexpectedly? Will he embarrass me what time of human being are they and how do they behave to surprises?

  24. Ivy

    On March 8, 2009 at 5:03 pm


    B Queen. Sometimes in life we have to cut our losses. I know the very thought of this young man not being in your life is very PAINFUL. But you must let him go. My mom always taught me that a woman must keep her DIGNITY INTACT.

    For a few minutes, let’s put the astrological sign aspect of this conversation aside. The young man has made it quite clear that he is no longer interested. I know your heart is ACHING, but you must takes steps to insure your emotional well being. Being drained of ones emotions can cause a variety of health issues. But being drained emotionally because a man no longer desires you can cause an EMOTIONAL BREAKDOWN. NO THING OR MAN IS WORTH A STINT IN THE PSYCHIATRIC WARD OR A HEART ATTACK.

    As long as you continue to pine over a man that has closed the door, God cannot send you man he has created ESPECIALLY FOR YOU.

    In response to the intimacy you guys have shared, please do not hold on to past thoughts of SEX to make you feel as though you still have a connection. The intimacy you shared is in THE PAST!!!! You must begin to let this man go physically (STOP CALLING HIM. I guarantee you he is telling his friends and family that you are CRAZY AND INSECURE), and emotionally. Unfortunately, your guy is timid. When his emotions began to shift in another direction, he should have told you he was no longer interested. But more often than not, YOUNG MEN (0-45) are not upfront with their emotions. So what you must do is get a GRIP ON YOUR EMOTIONS, STOP CRYING, AND BEGIN WORKING ON YOURSELF.

    Journaling is a good way to disect your emotions, and figure out why you are STILL HOLDING ON. As you write, you will begin to get answers to why your pain is soooo intense. B Queen, it is time for you to WORK ON YOU. LET THAT MAN GO. HE HAS OBVIOUSLY RELEASED YOU.

    Lastly, let me share something with you. When you meet your next guy (you will meet another man-hopefully he will be THE ONE), hold off on the intimacy until he has given you his heart and soul. Sometimes women give up THE GOODIES too soon without truly knowing the man. If you wait, and he starts acting like a clown, you can release him without the emotional drama. But if you give up GOODIES, and he starts clowning, now you are stuck. You can’t eat, sleep, nor function without that man. Only an act of God, and lots of time can straigten out your heart.

    P.S DON’T CALL HIM, AND LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!! TAKE BACK YOUR SELF-ESTEEM!!!!!

    Good luck.

  25. DeliverMeFromFish

    On March 9, 2009 at 10:03 am


    Ivy,

    Oh goodness, I can relate to your story! Two times now I’ve been caught up in that same damn web with pisces men. Two times I have fallen more or less head over heals for a pisces man, and each of them have done this same crap! One of them it went on and off, like yours, for 7 or 8 years. The other is very new in my life and in the beginning showed signs of being very different in regard to communication and response time, etc. Until one day OUT OF NOWHERE he blocks me, then 7 months later unblocks me, emails me and starts chatting (we live in different countries now), we have one full day of great chatting, then as of the next day I’m blocked again and he never replied to the last email! These guys will drive me mad. I don’t get it… it always appears to be out of nowhere, with no reason.. but I’m sure there’s some reason on his end – I just wish I could understand the thinking behind this… (of course I am a Scorpio so a mystery only intrigues me more!)

    And the worst part about both of these men…. everytime I move on and completely forget about him, that is THE MOMENT he reappears. Those 7 months passed, only with the day before him recontacting me I deleted every email and record in my email box related to him…. WHY DO THEY ALWAYS DO THAT TO ME!

  26. Beauty Queen

    On March 9, 2009 at 10:50 am


    DeliverMeFromFish,

    This is exactly what I went through except that I am a cancer and we tend to hold on to the last breath so to say. I am working on getting him out of my ind and my heart. This was my first experience with the fish and may be my last. I think they are very indecisive and not sure what they want. They think a lot and fear many things. They are not risk takers. They want things to go their way and control their surroundings. I ma very frustrated with mine and I do not know what to expect with him nor do I care anymore. I noticed that when they feel or know that you want them to behave in a certain way then they do the opposite. It is almost like you have to trick them and do the opposite yourself for them to do what you want to. So crazy!!!!
    May be someone can advice us on how to deal with them and keep them while the spark is still there.

  27. FORMER FISH LOVER

    On March 13, 2009 at 3:18 am


    This will probably be the worst Pisces man story you could ever hear- I spent a year and a half with my guy, 6 months living together which was incredible- total bliss- he became the most incredible father to my 8 year old son- we were also involved in the film business together- he’s an actor, I’m a screenwriter producer- Last August I left the country for business for the both of us and discovered some questionable activity he was involved in the week I was gone, in many areas. On a friend’s advice, I made him leave home to teach him a lesson- big mistake- a few days later I found out I was pregnant- unfortunately, he was already under the heavy influence of some shady friends of his, including a drug addict woman who all convinced him I tried to trap him etc- needless to say, he would not return, and took up with the sleezy woman for 2 months while I was still pregnant! I ended up going against all my beliefs and got an abortion for his sake. In November we got together again for 3 weeks but he ripped my heart out a second time so we broke up- unfortunately, I was pregnant again!- but didn’t know it, went overseas to spend the holidays with my father who has cancer, stressed, unhappy over all and had a horrible miscarriage when I returned home. in spite of all, this guy is the love of my life and I gave him numerous chances to fix things with us- even in January- new year- start fresh- but he refused- I don’t call him but he can never go more than one month without contacting me in some way- How sick is that? I used to respond but now I’ve stopped and that’s what he responds to! The only way for a Pisces man to be interested, or stay interested or return is to be hard to get- the way I was in the beginning half of our relationship- once familiarity sets in or real seriousness- the reality of commitment- Pisces run- and it really is self undoing- this man gave up me, the woman who helped him in enormous ways, even financially, kept him on the straight road, gave up our baby- gave up my son who became his, our high class place in Malibu, and gave up the role of a lifetime in a big studio film. Where is he now?- No where land, the wannabe cesspool of LA- broke, no car, living in a room in someone else’s apartment, out every night partying, playing a random DJ gig here and there to stay afloat, and calling me 2 days before his birthday!

  28. The truth about pisces

    On March 19, 2009 at 12:40 am


    Ivy,

    Your experience sounds just like my mom’s experience. She dated a high profile pisces (doctor) he was so much in his head that I think she regrets that she wasted most of her life waiting, hoping and dreaming. Move on and pray that he will come back.

    Well here’s my dilema. The guy that I like(d) is also high profile and ironically in sports. And he has driven me bananas. He was in the media (actually on television) saying things to get my attention and he had a girlfriend? I can’t believe it. I am so stunned. I thought I’d say more but I am so stunned.

  29. the truth

    On March 19, 2009 at 12:42 am


    Are they simply into mind games?

    What women do they NOT play games with? The girl that he is with he continously flirts with other women? I don’t get it?

  30. Response To Former Fish Lover

    On March 19, 2009 at 12:43 am


    They are like they with every woman. As soon as you stop talking to them is when they want you back.

  31. Beauty Queen

    On March 20, 2009 at 7:23 pm


    Wow!! “playing pisces men” you are right on the point! My pisces says he cares for me and I have a heart of Gold and very special in his heart. He says he will never forget me and my special place in his heart is far more special then words can say. He know s how to say the right thing to a woman. He breaks my heart when he asks me to call him then does not answer the phone. He says he wants to be with me one minute and the other minute he does not follow through what he promises to do. Can he ever be trusted? Is he a womanizer or just love women? Does this make him sleep with many women? He says he does not and I believe him at times but my gut feeling tells me otherwise sometimes. Why can’t he be honest and straight forward? Also, he seems like he is always out to benefit from that person, selfish and does not care what you feel or want! Any comments!!!

  32. Pisces guy

    On March 23, 2009 at 1:45 am


    Hello to all
    Let me start of by saying there seems to be a lot of Pisces bashing going on here. In all my past relationships i was always the one getting hurt and played. Mind games don’t interest me and i see no need for them in relationships. I recently met a new woman and i can say she is the one for me. I know this because she is a Libra and although we are not supposed to be compatible it seems to be working out great for us. I truly believe that it works for us because (as funny as it seems) she is the male of the relationship. She is strong willed, determined and just everything that Pisces tend to lack. Its a case of polar opposites truly attracting. I am a dreamer and a thinker and just so happen to work in the music industry. Women who have trouble with Pisces guys….here’s the secret…BE A MAN! lol It really works well for the Pisces in me. Be sensitive to our feelings and dreams and support us when required. But never ever wear your heart on your sleeve with a Pisces. Once we know we truly have you….it usually ends up pretty bad. But show affection and love when the moment asks for it. My lady has that hold on me. She is not over sensitive but when she is and shows her love it screams and resonates my soul but it never gets boring because it never becomes routine….which we all know is a Pisces Achilles heel.

    Hope i was some help to someone out there with Pisces trouble

    *offers advice and then swims away*

  33. Beauty Queen

    On March 23, 2009 at 9:47 am


    Mr. Pisces Guy,

    Do you think showing a lot of compassion, affection, love and expressions to a Pisces makes him run the other way? My Pisces says he does not like orders and he will do what he pleases NOT what I want! what do you think about that? I showered him with gifts, money when he needed it and yet he rarely thinks of calling me unless he wants to say something or has a request. I know it sounds like I put myself in a hole and like I am buying him but no he chased me at first. We got physical and I think that was the turning point for our relationship. H e started to drift away little by little until recently I paid him a visit. forgot to mention we live in 2 separate countries. When he saw me it was like old days, he says his heart was beating so fast that will jump out of his chest. I am crazy about him and the cancer woman I am makes me VERY sensitive, clingy, caring, will do anything to keep him and he knows it. We started talking again and he promised not to ignore calls but it is like I call him 10 times and he picks up 2 calls of them. When i call him he asks me to call back in 15 min. because he is working then he does not pick up the next 7 calls…that is how it goes. He says he cares a lot, he loves me but it only shows when I am with him and in his arms. Is he playing? Lying? cheating? what do you think! I have hard time believing everything he says. i would liek to hear your opinion from another Pisces man. Thank you.

  34. Scorpio Lady

    On March 23, 2009 at 1:48 pm


    Boy, quite the (negative) experiences you girls had with Pisces men.

    Not too generalize, but imho, it wouldn’t surprise me when most of it is based on misinterpretation. Pisces man don’t just blap out whats on their mind, usually they hope they can just ignore the problem. Which doesn’t always work out well, as I’ve seen here.

    I have nothing but good experiences with Pisces men.

    My first bf (2,5 yrs) was one and he never did anything, ANYTHING, to hurt me or upset me and we were even teenagers! I never ever even thought about him cheating on me and that has nothing to do with being naive, because till now im sure he didnt. I have blind faith in pisces. And scorpio’s are suspicious ppl, so this says a lot.

    My current bf is a pisces too. After been with two gemini’s (of which one 1 lived with – I never trusted either of them), it’s like coming home and finally letting my guard down as with my first bf.
    Finally a man that doesn’t play you.
    He is so sincere loving and taking my feelings in account, that basically the only thing I worry about is doublechecking him not doing stuff just to make me happy, because I really don’t want any of the misunderstandings happening…. where he is actually not rly happy with something but doesn’t say it, to keep stuff going smooth.

    Cherish your pisces man! But if you don’t understand/feel him… don’t start it, because it will be hurtfull for the both of you.

  35. Susie Lane

    On March 24, 2009 at 8:33 am


    There is an actor named Rob Brown who is a Pisces, and I was wondering what he looks for in a woman?

  36. Jordan

    On March 24, 2009 at 12:46 pm


    I\’m a pisces male and am in total agreement with most of the things that have been said above. When dating a pisces male, one has to realize that reality is just a thought in our minds. The majority of us are very strong headed and live life to the fullest with our situations. Even though things in life might not be great, they are wonderful in my mind. Making our lives that much better. Worrying about the outcomes are not a notion to us. I am a true PISCES, in that I can be intiative and a very good listener. You can have a great time with pisces (Male or Female). We are great idealogical thinkers, but can be very manipulative at times. The best thing to remember about us…..Our dreams are very very important to us. Being unsupportive and critical can push us over the edge and close us off. Best of all, pisces are wonderful and very gifted individuals that thrive on energy from the company in which we hold.

  37. me

    On March 25, 2009 at 9:39 am


    test

  38. Hurt and Confused by Pisces

    On March 25, 2009 at 10:00 am


    I recently re-connected with a Pisces classmate after 15 years. We hit it off immediately and became very close. Before long we were talking about marriage, buying furniture and looking at rings. One evening we had a very silly argument and his response we so insensitive. We squashed it and I thought we moved on, but he was upset with me the next day and started acting shady toward me thereafter. Everytime I asked him what was wrong he told me to stop trying to fix things, let it happen on its own and that I was making things worse. We went away together and had a great time, but when we got back he started shading me even more. My birthday came (I too am a Pisces) and he waited until the night to call and wish me a happy birthday. he left me a dry message. He didn’t call me for days after that. When I confronted him about that he said he was having a bad day and wasn’t in the mood that’s why he waited until 10PM to call. I feel like I’m rambling , but I am so hurt and confused by his sudden change of behavior I literally am spinning trying to figure out what went wrong. I told him that he seems to have checked out of the relationship and I’m fianally getting the hint. He said he wasn’t sure what changed but that something did. My question is, did he ever really love me? Love doesn’t dissapear after 1 argument which is when his behavior seemed to change. The funny thing is the argument was one he started and most people would agree he was wrong. He became cold, spiteful and down right mean to me at times. Our relationship started off like soul mates and now I feel like he hates me. We were supposed to continue our conversation about the fate of our relationship. He said he had to think about things. That was a week ago. I haven’t heard from him since. What does this all mean? Am I fighting a losing battle? HELP!

  39. Ivy

    On March 29, 2009 at 1:01 am


    Hurt and confused, I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry for your pain. Break-ups are painful, but unresolved break-ups add an unexplainable intensity to your pain. I would suggest that you take a huge deep breath, exhale, and relax. When you are stressed, you can’t think. I want you get quiet, be still, and ask the voice within to tell you what’s REALLY GOING ON. Trust the internal voice, remove your emotions, and believe what you hear. I guarantee you will receive your answer, and in time….peace.

    P.S The correct answer will always come in the form of a still SMALL VOICE. The SSV will always give you clarity and peace. The other voice will always bring stress, anxiety, and additional pain.

    I pray that you receive peace. True love is on it’s way. (SMILE)

  40. Hurt and Confused

    On March 30, 2009 at 9:32 am


    Hi Ivy, thanks for kind words. I sent him an e-mail saying I still believe in us and I still haven’t heard from him. So at this point I don’t have many options. I’ve wanted to call, but something keeps stopping me. Maybe fear of rejection, fear of humiliation, or just plain old self-love kicking in. I’ve done all I can do, it’s now up to him and if I matttered I would know.

    Thanks again.

  41. Mr. Fishy

    On April 3, 2009 at 6:18 pm


    what all you confused pisces-hating women need to understand is that we pisces men are two different fish. one fish is going against the current and when that fish is in charge, stay away cause we are thinking very hard and lost in some bizarre fantasy world. when the other fish is swimming with the current, we are being affectionate and loving and open. we arent good at sharing our emotions, youll probably recieve more text messages from us than phone calls, etc. but when we ignore your calls or seem very distant, we are just lost in our own minds. pisces men need your love but we are hard to keep. usually we dont realize we are coming across as being flaky- we just assume that the person who loves us \”gets us\”. i assure you all that these pisces arent trying to play \”mind games\”… to them theyre just being themselves and youre interpreting it differently cause you cant see into the fish\’s strange fantasy world.

    the only reason i felt the need to post this is because i feel like ive made past lovers angry in ways that they probably feel the same as you, but from the pisces perspective its very different. if anyone if lucky enough to catch a fishy, hold on to him but let him be himself!!

    @BEAUTYQUEEN- let that fishy go. he isnt interested and youre probably scaring him even further away. if you leave him alone long enough his energies and currents might change and he will come back to you. but its clear that what you did was jump into the water with a canonball instead of step in lightly and that fish has now swum away.

  42. Beauty Queen

    On April 5, 2009 at 1:42 pm


    Mr. Fishy,

    thank you for the advice. i am considering this. It appears that my relationship with hims cooled off and now it more like a financial support in some ways i.e gifts, things he wants, gym membership…etc. If I do not call him, he rarely calls and last time I saw him, he was hot about but only spent few hours in whole 1 week of visit, claiming he was not aware of me coming so he could not arrange his schedule. At any rate, i am tired of his lies, selfishness, and uncaring attitude. As much as I love him, and the things that attracted me to him in the first place, are now gone so I am losing my interest in him. I should have never be honest and clingy to him and wanting to please him so much from the start. I think I would have had a chance. Now I am pretty sad about it and I am losing every hope he ever gave me. Who knows what tomorrow brings. Its men like these that makes us honest, straightforward women lose trust in many men and when the right person come along, we make the mistake of assuming he will be like teh last one.

  43. Mr. Fishy

    On April 5, 2009 at 3:10 pm


    i know i know, men can be scum no matter what sign they are! as a pisces man though i tend to fall for the cancer and capricorn guys, and i keep far away from geminis, libras and virgos.

  44. Mr Fishy but you guys DO play mind games

    On April 8, 2009 at 3:57 pm


    I am sorry. I have dealt with pisces in the past. They are very manipulative. They are indecisive and easily led. A lot of them want a dominate lover. They don’t really want to be in charge although they don’t want to appear to be weak in public. One minute they are with you and then the next they aren’t. They are spending 1000 hours trying to re-calculate. They have to feel this connection and they ultimately want perfection, something that is so far from reality that they just don’t get it. They like power and they like attention. At least Leos are up front about it. At least Aries will tell you. Pisces secretly pull strings and are masterminds at trying to woo you and say the right things to get you. They LOVE the hunt. And while you are thinking that they are listening souls, they gather that information to either a) use it against you or b) see if you truly fit in. They don’t have the heart to tell you that you are nothing to them anymore. They are sweet souls and compassionate. But in all honesty, they won’t let you know that they are moving on so have an exit plan if you are not married because he will. The good part about these individuals is that they have style for days a good heart and will be the most compassionate individual that you meet. However they will play you for a fool until they have found their soul mate. And they have to feel it. Otherwise they will make you and your life a mental hell. On the surface whoever is with them seems like it’s a good couple. But if he isn’t truly committed, he will cheat and he will string you along. Sure this can go for any sign. It’s just that Pisces is a bit more sophisticated in the game playing and leaves you to think that this good boy is actually a really nice catch. That’s his game. Being a soft vulnerable and funny soul is what he uses to further his pursuits as he knows that most women don’t really want dogs. So if you are not married and if your little voice says that he isn’t respecting you you better think twice. Pisces men secretly LOVE strong dominating women. They will get someone passive, but they aren’t truly attracted or intrigued with that. They are followers and they have a hard time making swift decisions because they are either a) listening to their peers or b) not sure if you are their ideal soul mate.

    They don’t say what they think. They are less verbal. So as much as you think that you’ve bonded with them. Be wary of thinking you “have” them until it’s inked on a marriage certificate. And, even then your inner voice should be the guiding map to determine if this would be a match made in heaven. It’s no coincidence that we’ve all been manipulated and feel duped by this sign. They just have the good boy charm. But their charm can work like a snake. If you want them to be after you for the whole duration provide a story book chase.

  45. Fish 2 of them

    On April 8, 2009 at 3:58 pm


    There are 2 fish. One wants to settle down. The other one wants to dream forever.

  46. Beauty Queen

    On April 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm


    Dear “Mr Fishy but you guys DO play mind games”

    You are RIGHT and HIT the nail on the head. OMG!!!!!
    I feel like you are describing the one I am with now….It feels like I am running after him and the only way to get his attention is to play games and not be available all the time. They definitely can drain your mind. I am a cancer woman and I felt we have a connection at first and believe our chemistry but I think Pisces manipulate you to get what they want then that is it…they are gone to the next adventure!

  47. Hurt and Confused

    On April 9, 2009 at 8:43 am


    #45, you sooooo acurately described these type of men. And no amount of \”nice guy\” sweetness, can make up for their manipulative ways and descrutive presence in the lives of the good women who love them. These behaviors so cruel and emotionally abusive. And especially if they know this is what they are doing?

    There is nothing good about that.

  48. Pisces Female

    On April 17, 2009 at 10:19 am


    After reading all these posts, I realized why my ex boyfriend (pisces) acted the way he did. I also realized what I did wrong in the relatioship. Yes, pisces men are kind, sweet and understanding but they are always and will always be confused. I was with my pisces ex in the on & off relationship for almost 6 years. He has been dating someone else while I’ve been crying over him. For the past month, I went through every single detail of our relationship. I blamed myself and I blamed him. I know that me being a little controlling and maybe a little jealous of his constant flirting pusshed him away. However, pisces male lure you in so much and make you feel like they are the love of your life,that we forget about all the hurt and pain that we go through. Why? Because we are so head over heals in love and we forget about our own needs and what makes us happy. I am not trying to bash pisces male because they have many positive sides about them and they do make us feel strong and good about ourselves when they treat us like a queen. However, it’s not that kind of strong where if they leave us, we appreciate that chance that we had with them and know that we will be ok without them. These men let us control them because they make us feel bad for them. But what about our own needs. I let this men control my emotions. But I have realized that I lost myself in this relationship. I lost myself completely.

    In my opnion, a real men knows what he wants in life and knows how stay committed to one women. Most pisces men will always need the attention of many women. If a man truly loves a women he will look pass her negatives or at least work with them and appreciate the positives. Real men don’t play games. So ladies, if you are are in this emotional rollercoaster with pisces males, do not for one second blame yourself because we are human and we all make mistakes. Put your own hapiness before anyone else’s. Find a way to be strong because trust me once you gain confidence from the inside and your own mind, you will be happy. Do not let anyone make you beleive that the only you way you can be strong and confident is if that person is in your life. Also, do not waste this precious time that we have on someone who is not willing to accept us for who we are. Im not saying that we are perfect. I am not saying we shouldn’t compromise but it should be a two way street. Like someone said here and on other website, after all they are men. Luckily for me, I have been surrounded by really good guys and my first love was everything that I would want in a men and he wasn’t a pices men and even thought it didn’t work out between me and my first love, I don’t regret a single thing. I want him to be happy and that’s the kind of relationship you would want. But with my pisces ex, all I felt was pain and sorrow. So the world doesn’t revolve around these pisces men, there are plenty of great guys out there. Be strong, love youserlf first and you will find the one who will truly love you be it pisces or aries or gemini…lol.

  49. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On April 18, 2009 at 4:06 pm


    Hey everybody!

    I am truly amazed at the fact that what everybody describes the Pisces male as exactly describes the guy that I am dating.

    He seems like he doesn’t fully trust me and that it’s not easy to gain his trust. We have been dating for over 6 months and it seems like he still doesn’t want to make things official with me. However, he tells me that he is in love with me. I am very confused. Anytime that I mention the word “relationship”, he tells me how scared he is. ALSO he never shows up when he says he will and answers my phone calls whenever he feels like it.

    Another thing that has me confused is the fact that he is always in control. I am a Leo, and I always rule in relationships, but there is just something about him that really makes me remain calm around him.

    Although he isn’t ready for a relationship after 6 months of dating, he tells me that he is in love with me and that he doesn’t cheat on me and doesn’t want me to cheat on him. Pisces males do need their space too..sometimes we will go a whole day without talking to one another.

    I am so confused because I thought that he was the one for me, but I just think that he is playing games with me. Everytime I tell him that I think that we should fall back because he prefers to be with his friends and in strip clubs all night he get’s upset when I threaten to leave. But why? You are showing me that you clearly do not want me!

    He doesn’t like arguments, or he will argue but when it’s your turn to talk he’s simply tired of talking. Pisces male would rather just let any situation play it’s course. They do not like confrontations and if they are in the wrong, you dare better not tell them.

    They don’t like nagging. If he’s doing something wrong, you can be hurt by it, but don’t say anything to him about it, and when you talk to him the next day, you better had forgotten about whatever he did to you yesterday. Don’t even mention it.

    Your Thoughts???

  50. Pisces Female

    On April 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm


    Leo::..Lioness..: I completely agree. I’ve went through all of that with my pisces ex (maybe you are dating my ex cause it sounds 100% just like him…NJ area? lol kidding). My advice to you is to keep your options open until he shows that he truly wants to be with you. He pretty much has you on a hook. He tells you that he loves you but still doesn’t want a relationship!!! It sounds like he is keeping his options open while having you as a back up plan. Don’t waste your time. If he was the one for you, he would have gotten serious with you already. Don’t settle!!! Let him do him thing while he has it straightened out, and in the meantime concentrate on your own life.

  51. #49 Rest Easy He Had Someone All along

    On April 20, 2009 at 1:42 am


    Before you think that you should compare yourself with the other girl, realize he already had her all along. That’s just it, they don’t create boundaries so they always leave an alternative route open. You think that it’s something that you did. Well reality is that he just felt “the need” to see how the other side lived. He’s probably been trying to woo her (previously hard to get) all along. I am telling you. I’ve been in this game with them time and time again. They are attracted to me because of my sign. But, I know their b.s. And sometimes I fall and sometimes I don’t. But no way am I blaming myself anymore, and neither should you.

  52. Pisces Female

    On April 20, 2009 at 8:43 am


    #52 You are absolutely right!!!

  53. Hurt and Confused by Pisces

    On April 20, 2009 at 9:14 am


    Do they chase you down? I haven’t had that experience. In fact I haven’t called him in a month, b/c the last text i sent him said that I loved him and still believed in us. ( I haven’t heard from him since). The thing is I haven’t called him. Which is like and act of God. And the fact that I ghaven’t heard form him is VERY painful. Not even to salvage a friendship? (See previous post for the whole story #39). My point is, how do I get this dude out of my system? One of the most painful experiences. It’s like he just “about faced” me. Who does that to someone they “loved” and was going to marry?

  54. Pisces Female

    On April 20, 2009 at 10:24 am


    Hurt and Confused by Pisces,

    I feel your pain and I know exactly how you feel and Iam sorry to hear that you are in this situation. My advice to you is to try not to think about him constantly, even though being a pisces yourself it’s almost impossible. Think about it this way, you were fine and happy before he came back into your life, right? You were doing things that made you happy. Go out, hang out with you friends, try to make yourself busy. You have already taken the first step by not calling him for a month. I guarantee you, once you move on and stop thinking about him, he will come running back to you or at least he will contact you. He was probably happy and comfortable at the beginning but once you had that argument, he changed his mind. Most pisces men think they love someone as long as they are happy and comfortable in the situation. If something disturbs that comfort, they start reconsidering the situation and try to find that comfort somewhere else. He will eventually come back to you maybe not as a lover, but he will try to reconcile whatever happened in the past. Be strong. Do not blame yourself. Think about yourself first. He might chase you down, but do you really want to, knowing that the purpose of the chase is to have you love him again and not to make you happy. Don’t you want be with someone who will not ruin everything just because of one argument? I dont know. Give it time but do not be consumed by this situation. You might be wasting it on someone who doesn’t deserve you while missing out on a chance with someone who does and make you truly happy.

  55. Hurt and Confused by Pisces

    On April 20, 2009 at 11:22 am


    Pisces female,

    Thank you. That helped, especially coming from another pisces female. You know how we are, we love very hard and give of ourselves so freely to those we love, it’s almost to a fault. Our selflessness often gets us taken for granted. he once told me that if someone expects him to do something he most likely won’t. I suspect that he is being his usual spiteful self or he just plain old moved on.

    It’s hard to imagine I literally was about uproot my life to be with this man and now I feel like I meant nothing to him. Buy I now with the help of God and friends I’ll make it to the other side. That day can’t come soon enough.

  56. The Romantic Pitch They Use

    On April 20, 2009 at 11:24 am


    I think why it’s so painful for all of us because their whole “game” is seductive and it’s almost invisible. They have the romantic setting. They make you believe that they are the best thing. But that’s just it. It’s only a GAME. It’s a worm. It’s bait. Until they’ve solidified you as a viable option in their mind, and when I mean option you are down the aisle already – then you are in their game plan. The reason why it’s hard to break away and get over the pain is because they are the best pretenders and they believe it initially. Because they fall so fast they believe their game as well.

    1. They are attracted to you.
    2. They set up the bait. Many of us are still caught in the grand scheme of things because the bait is romantic, it’s nice words it’s dreamy thoughts. Some of their dreams are real. However some of it is bait. They are chameleons. They pretend to be what you want them to be. It’s sad because they don’t feel comfortable being themselves. But don’t let this crutch of theirs make you feel sorry for them. They are far from stupid. They are more than cunning. The bait is at the friend and girlfriend level. If you haven’t transcended in their minds as a soul mate or if they are still NOT ready, you are just in their back pocket. They store things like Kangaroos in their pouch. And if they find something else to jump to, you are out of their pouch.
    3. The connection. Very few of them reach this. They sometimes become disillusioned and enter into drugs and other things. They mean well. But most of them can’t get out of their dream world and they are guilt ridden because most of them know what they are doing is wrong. So before you get that there is this big connection with him, make sure you feel within your spirit that he IS into you. Women we trump them no matter our sign because we have intuition. So if you feel that they are playing games – they probably are. Don’t let them turn it around on you to make it like you are crazy, or your are too jealous– they ARE playing games when you feel it.

    A lot of them chase you. But a lot of them have a subtle game. They create different scenarios to woo you or reel you back in. They chase in different ways.

    But don’t allow them to dupe you with their charm.

  57. Hurt and Confused

    On April 20, 2009 at 11:40 am


    For full disclosure, we had an “argument: b/c he mentioned that he may go to an ex’s housewarming party. Which I would have had no problem with had she not just a week earlier sent him an e-mail asking him to take her on a date. She clearly still had feelings for him. I thought him going might send the wrong impression. How do I know she sent him this e-mail? He showed it to me. Not sure why but he did, but he did. When I expressed some concern he became very insensitive. He actaully said- what do you want me to take her on a date instead??? he reluctantly agreed not to go. I backed off and said that if he really felt the need to go, he should. I didn’t want to be the girl telling a grown man where he should and should not go. He was mad a that!! He thought it was so irrational of me to even have expressed any of my concerns after he agreed not to go. Ever since then he became cold. I tried everything in my power to make things right. But to no avail. The harder I tried the more cruel he became. That was the big crime- that I actually had an opinion, expressed it, backed off when he became insensitive and agreed to let him do what he wanted. Again, so confused….

  58. Pisces Female

    On April 20, 2009 at 12:41 pm


    Hurt and Confused..You are worth way more than that. Trust me. I am telling you, I’ve been through all of this experiences that you and other females described. It’s like I’ve seen every single side of how a pisces guy can act in just one relationship with him. With my ex, I was also holding things in and tried to be understanding, but when things started getting out of hand, I decided to confront him, and, of course, I became the evil one. The one who did everything wrong in a relationship. He also made me feel sorry for him because he seemed to be so vulnerable. I’ve been through every single pisces scheme you can describe, and I am glad that it happened to me now before we got married. I also realized that me being with him and letting him treat me this way came from my own insecurities and my own weaknesses. Yes, pisces man do like strong and determined women but only when they are 100% ready for a committment. Otherwise, they prefer women who are either going through personal crisis, who are in secure or with whom they can play around like a toy. I don’t want to sound like all pisces man like because they are not. There are a few of them who really treat you like a princess and will never hurt you. But those are the man that come from a loving family, have established themselves in their lives and know what a true hapiness is. Unfortunately, you are dealing with the other kind. Please don’t suffer anymore. Convince yourself that you deserve to be happy. You did nothing wrong. In fact, it’s the opposite.

  59. Hurt and Confused

    On April 20, 2009 at 2:58 pm


    Pisces Female and everyone- thank you. It helps to know that I’m not crazy and others have had similar experiences. Wishing you all healthy future relationships and good mental health. and me too:)

  60. an opinion

    On April 21, 2009 at 1:41 am


    You folks need to remember that in Astrology the sun sign is only part of the person. Theres twelve other signs that could be in twelve other houses that make up a persons astrological profile. So maybe some of these Pisces guys or girls arent all Pisces. They are made of bits and pieces of all signs. Dont waste time on people that dont make you happy or people you cant make happy. Theres millions of people out there looking for someone.

  61. nope we aren't buying it pisces advocate

    On April 21, 2009 at 11:02 pm


    sure some aren’t like that. but the majority of them have these traits. we couldn’t all be imagining the same dream and nightmare.

  62. debbie

    On April 21, 2009 at 11:03 pm


    all you have to tell a pisces man is to put on his big boy pants and grow up.

  63. thelma

    On April 22, 2009 at 11:42 pm


    pisces men are whiny lazy and expect their women to work initiate sex chase them don’t buy into the sadsack eyes they know you’ll fall for them they pretend to be sensitive and hurt it’s a game the only sign that has them whipped is scorpio women

  64. louise

    On April 22, 2009 at 11:46 pm


    i agree they are players but good at it. you would think since they are last of zodiac they would be men not boys

  65. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On April 23, 2009 at 4:27 pm


    I just want to thank everyone for responding so well to everyone\’s problems. This has become a great support group! lol!

    But yes. I agree with #65, we all can\’t be having the same nightmare! And this is all so eery to me because listening to you all, I swear I think that we all were dating the same man!

    And yes!! They do play games. That\’s how they reel you in. When I first met him he kept saying \”please don\’t hurt me\” \”I\’ve been hurt before\” The same thing that he asked me not to do to him, he turned around and did to me! What a SHOCK!! I will never fall for another Pisces…Never fall for it again!!

  66. Beauty Queen

    On April 23, 2009 at 4:45 pm


    Pisces men are simply: manipulative, like to play games all the time, like to control, chase you at the beginning but once they have you that is it, selfish, insensitive to others feeling 9at least that is what they show on the outside), very charming, seductive, and knows how to play the game right to get you where they want you to be, but big liars!!
    I know this sounds so negative but when you first meet them, you see the beautiful attractive things in them that pulls you close.
    the sad part is by acting the way they do, they miss out on great and wonderful women like all of us. They probably do not even realize it till it si too late and maybe one of the reasons why they come back to find us but by then most of us would have moved on. The Pisces I am with now, does drive me insane. I ask myself all the time why am i still talking to him. I guess it is the memories we had together that continue to hunt my feelings and find me longing for him. Pisces men do what they please and will not do what you want them to do. So ask them for the opposite of what you want and they will give you what you are looking for. Sad but true!!! Do not try to make them understand you and act straight…he simply will not because he can’t. This is how most of them are!!! I would not doubt that they are cheaters too. As much as I fell in love with him, all the games he plays is starting to make me dislike him. It is an emotional rollacoaster. The worst thing is to make him know that he got you and you are for him!!

  67. lulu

    On April 23, 2009 at 9:51 pm


    beauty queen just dump him keep the good memories in your head and move forward don’t let him hook you

  68. Hurt and Confused

    On April 24, 2009 at 3:23 pm


    Wow, Beauty Queen, you’ve come a long way since your earlier posts. Good for you! Inspiring even.

  69. Hurt and Confused

    On April 24, 2009 at 3:28 pm


    When your next post says you’re done with him, then I know there’s hope!

  70. 2 SHARKS not Fish swimming in the opposite direction

    On April 24, 2009 at 8:52 pm


    In case any of us get weak and go back to them, remember this:

    1. 2 Sharks (not fish) are swimming in the opposite direction.
    2. Have you ever tried to catch a fish with your bare hands?
    3. Fishermen (pisces) use bait.

  71. IMPERFECT PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE PERFECT RELTIONSHIPS

    On April 26, 2009 at 6:40 pm


    I AM VIRGO WOMAN IN A 19 MONTH RELATIONSHIP WITH A PISCES MAN AND ALL OF THESE THNGS RING TRUE, THE THING IS THAT THEY ARE IDEALISTS AND EMOTIONALLY IMMATURE, THEY IDEALIZE A PERFECT RELATIONSHIP, WHEN THEY FIND WHAT THEY THINK IS PERFECT, THEY WORSHIP IT UNTIL IT’S NOT PERFECT ANYMORE,WHICH COULD BE THE SLIGHTEST DISAGREEMENT OR INCLINATION THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG…THEY SIMPLY SWIM AWAY, ALWAYS TO RETURN!!!

    AS LONG AS YOU KEEP ALLOWING THEM TO RETURN, AS I DO, YOU PARTAKE IN THE VICOUS CYCLE WHICH IS PISCES….

    THEIR RATIONALE IS A RELATIONSHIP SHOULD ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN LOVE, WHICH IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS!!

    WE ARE NOT PERFECT PEOPLE, SO EVERY RELATIONSHIP THEY ENTER IS DOOM FOR DISSAPOINTMENT AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM DISSAPOINTING YOU BECAUSE THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS DISSAPOINTED THEM.

    IT’S ONLY WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT THIS RATIONALE IS LUDACRIS AND THAT MATURE ADULTS KNOW THAT RELATIONSHIPS INVOLVE:COMPROMISE, UNDERSTANDING, PATIENCE, TOLERANCE, COMMITTMENT, COMMUNICATION, HONESTY AND NOT JUST A BUNCH OF AMOROUS FEELINGS!!!

    THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH BEING IN LOVE NOT WITH BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, THIS IS WHY THEY GO FROM WOMAN TO WOMAN AND COME BACK EVERYTIME TO THE ONE THAT IS WILLING TO TOLERATE THE NONSENSE BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSAPOINTED EVERYTIME!!

    PLUS THEY ARE FREAKS THAT GET OFF ON CLANDESTINE AFFAIRS WHICH LEAVE THEM EMPTY EVENTUALLY AS WELL..IF YOU CAN RIDE OUT THE LONG RIDE IT IS, EVENTUALLY THEY ARE BACKED AGAINST THE WALL WITH THEIR OWN TRUTHS WHICH IS: THE WOMAN THAT HAS BEEN IS THE ONE THEY CHOOSE…..FINALLY!!!!

    WHAT THE HELL IS PERFECT ABOUT THAT? TWISTED SOULS TO SAY THE LEAST…..

  72. IMPERFECT PEOPLE CAN\'T MAKE PERFECT RELTIONSHIPS

    On April 26, 2009 at 6:42 pm


    I AM VIRGO WOMAN IN A 19 MONTH RELATIONSHIP WITH A PISCES MAN AND ALL OF THESE THNGS RING TRUE, THE THING IS THAT THEY ARE IDEALISTS AND EMOTIONALLY IMMATURE, THEY IDEALIZE A PERFECT RELATIONSHIP, WHEN THEY FIND WHAT THEY THINK IS PERFECT, THEY WORSHIP IT UNTIL It’S NOT PERFECT ANYMORE,WHICH COULD BE THE SLIGHTEST DISAGREEMENT OR INCLINATION THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG…THEY SIMPLY SWIM AWAY, ALWAYS TO RETURN!!!

    AS LONG AS YOU KEEP ALLOWING THEM TO RETURN, AS I DO, YOU PARTAKE IN THE VICOUS CYCLE WHICH IS PISCES….

    THEIR RATIONALE IS A RELATIONSHIP SHOULD ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN LOVE, WHICH IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS!!

    WE ARE NOT PERFECT PEOPLE, SO EVERY RELATIONSHIP THEY ENTER IS DOOM FOR DISSAPOINTMENT AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM DISSAPOINTING YOU BECAUSE THIS RELATIONSHIP HAS DISSAPOINTED THEM.

    IT\’S ONLY WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT THIS RATIONALE IS LUDACRIS AND THAT MATURE ADULTS KNOW THAT RELATIONSHIPS INVOLVE:COMPROMISE, UNDERSTANDING, PATIENCE, TOLERANCE, COMMITTMENT, COMMUNICATION, HONESTY AND NOT JUST A BUNCH OF AMOROUS FEELINGS!!!

    THEY ARE IN LOVE WITH BEING IN LOVE NOT WITH BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, THIS IS WHY THEY GO FROM WOMAN TO WOMAN AND COME BACK EVERYTIME TO THE ONE THAT IS WILLING TO TOLERATE THE NONSENSE BECAUSE THEY ARE DISSAPOINTED EVERYTIME!!

    PLUS THEY ARE FREAKS THAT GET OFF ON CLANDESTINE AFFAIRS WHICH LEAVE THEM EMPTY EVENTUALLY AS WELL..IF YOU CAN RIDE OUT THE LONG RIDE IT IS, EVENTUALLY THEY ARE BACKED AGAINST THE WALL WITH THEIR OWN TRUTHS WHICH IS: THE WOMAN THAT HAS BEEN IS THE ONE THEY CHOOSE…..FINALLY!!!!

    WHAT THE HELL IS PERFECT ABOUT THAT? TWISTED SOULS TO SAY THE LEAST…..

  73. So they choose who puts up with their crap?

    On April 26, 2009 at 9:34 pm


    So you are saying whoever is left to put up with all of their crap is the winner?

  74. Beauty Queen

    On April 26, 2009 at 9:43 pm


    Thank you Virgo woman! You answered many of my confusion. Taht si one thng that Cancer women have is patience and tolerance but we get hurt along the way. The problem is if my pisces does not realize what you said soon enough, then I will be over him and never return. He purposely does teh opposite of what I ask and hurt and not care for a mment. I text him at times when I was crying over him or over other matters…not once dd he call to find out why an dif it happens to come up in the conversation then he may curiously ask…. so sad!!!!!
    Sometimes I ask myself what is there to love about a person who is selfish, uncaring, insensitive at times, sex addict, cheats, lies…but I keep remembering whne I first met him “how wonderful that was”. I just have to remember it “WAS” not “now”. I am working on it but oh my God it takes a lot of pain and strength for me being teh cancer woman I am, to forget someone and wipe him off the chart of my heart. I wish I was different or I wish I knew what I know now about pisces but a bit earlier. Nevertheless, i do not think I could ahve prevented our argument or his disappointment because like you said the slightest thing would have done the damage. Can it be ever repaired? He just continue to ask for my gifts from me and abuse me emotionally.

  75. coco

    On April 27, 2009 at 8:56 am


    hi everybody.. wow.. i just surf to find how pisces men bahviour towards relationship and i found you guys. what an extensive and vast experience involving pisces guy.
    i’m libra, my ex-hb is pisces. and now my new bf also pisces… why am i always fall for a pisces? i dont know..
    my bf, we’re from different part of the world, he’s from middle east, i’m asian, and he studying in my country thats how i met him. it’s been 2 months now. i knew i’d fall for him from the very moment i saw him and our chemistry is booming. it’s just that after i read all your experiences, i’m afraid that this will not last. we havent declared anything about love. i did hint about being taking this relationship seriusly but my attempt just make him pull 1-step back. he used to call me baby-this baby-that but after the incident he just call me by my name. is there big possibilities that he thinks i’m not his soul-mate, he just want to use me to fill his free time while he’s finishing his study here, or is it that pisces always need more time to figure out if this girl is their soul mate or not? i need advice……..

  76. Hurt and Confused

    On April 27, 2009 at 9:18 am


    Beauty Queen, what happened? You sounded so strong last week! Please continue on that path…

  77. Pisces Female

    On April 27, 2009 at 9:34 am


    So they choose who puts up with their crap?,

    Pretty much…

  78. Beauty Queen

    On April 27, 2009 at 11:32 am


    Hurt and Confused, I keep bouncing back and forth between my emotions, I feel head over heels for him :( but believe me I am working hard to stay strong…he does not deserve me. What kind of a person sees the good in someone and abuse them? Not to mention, treats them like crap when they have only been the best thing ever happened, spoiling him, traveling cross countries to see him, I over compensated and I paid for it. Time to move on and deal with my hurt a different way…..never a Pisces AGAIN. Next time I hear that word, i will run the opposite direction!

    Coco, you should keep him as a friend at bay only…the minute they know you are serious and that he has you. It will be down hill from there. God luck and do not give the pleasure for a Pisces to hurt another woman.

  79. little Cappy

    On April 27, 2009 at 8:02 pm


    Wow,exactly the same here..! I know the guy for 10 years,we had a short relationship as we were tenageers. Through all these years, it goes like this: sometimes no contact at all, sometimes flirting, sometimes “just frieds phase”, ons and offs, insecurity, low self-esteem, acting like a strong man, he pretends to be and says something he knows I higly value…blah blah. I really really loved the guy, but hey..he doesn’t deserve it. And now….? Well,I play spontanious, but in this case – now I PLAY this game :) but, I don’t want him to notice that hehe. I don’t want to destroy his fantasy forld, contrary: I want him to relax and believe in the fairy tale, but the ONE I PREPARED for him. As a cappy, I want to stay in control,to be strong as I am, to be proud and to calculate.The only thing that I should bare in mind is that I have to watch to NOT believe in his tendernes and other stuff. Anyway, there isn’t such danger, because he is coword and rather text me, or contact me via msn, always playing COOL…Also, to mention that he performs his little sexual plays in front of camera for me to watch :) ))Twisted – he isnt brave enough to give me some realistic challenge hehe! because, he probably fears of rejection; well I can’t blame him..!

    Amazing experiences -Ivy, B queen and other ppl. Valuable lesson for all who met pisces male.
    Kind regards from Cappy! :)

  80. lulu

    On April 27, 2009 at 9:09 pm


    beauty queen dump his ass cancers always feel sorry for pisces men but realize they bring it upon themselves he is stronger than he leads on. get back your self respect and leave him he doesn’t care for you actions are stronger than words dump him

  81. EERIE

    On April 27, 2009 at 11:45 pm


    Isn’t this eerie to you that we all have different men but they are all the same? I swear Cappy hit the nail on the head. The games. It’s almost scarey.

  82. little Cappy

    On April 28, 2009 at 11:58 am


    Yes, I was stunned…But, now I’m not surprised any more :)
    Who knows, maybe I’d act differently, like suffer or be sad etc if I was single. But, luckily I have almost perfect bf.. btw, he is Scorpio: ) Still, I keep thinking of pisces and that bothers me; one of you guys mentioned the situation with unanswered calls- once it happened to me (only) with pisces, and I freaked out, seriously! I don’t allow myself to feel that way anymore. Now, I’m the “bad guy”, I ignore pisces, and now he keeps contacting me every week, at least twice, I think..and that is a big change of behavior, at least you ppl can understand that. I don’t believe he loves me or similar, it is more like he wants to check if I still have feelings for him. How boring.
    Oh, how unstable they are, it’s unbelievable! At the end they will be full of sorrow and alone…but I refuse to suffer with them, and everything I can do, is feel sorry for them only :(

  83. Pisces Female

    On April 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm


    Little Cappy,

    This is exactly what my ex was doing once he started dating the new girl. He would still call me and tell me that he loves me but wouldn’t act on it, and keep dating the other one. If I told him that I loved him back, the next day he wouldn’t even call me. But once I told him that we shouldn’t talk anymore and I wish him happiness, he would say how confused he is and doesnt want to stop talking. It’s almost like he wanted to make sure that I still love him in case it doesn’t work out with her. How selfish!!! Liilte Cappy, don’t even think about him. Give yourself to the one who loves you.

  84. OH MY GOD - YES PISCES FEMALE AND CAPPY!

    On April 28, 2009 at 4:17 pm


    It’s almost like they want you on a JUST-IN-CASE-LEASH.

    They are the most selfish group of people in the world. They are fearful that they don’t have an exit option. And unfortunately they use human beings as this exit option. The new girl that he dates – she isn’t really safe either, because if they still want you as an option or (anybody) as an option for that matter, that certainly says that they believe that they don’t have the right one.

    It’s so eerie that they almost do the exact opposite if you show them that you love them.

  85. They like to be challenged to their death?

    On April 28, 2009 at 4:19 pm


    Isn’t this kind of tiring? Like I can only imagine that he would be (pisces) the happiest if he NEVER knew what you were thinking or had you figured out. you’d have to play this cat and mouse game forever? And those that didn’t start off with the tiring and EXHAUSTING cat and mouse game would NEVER have an equal footing of someone that BROKE OFF WITH THEM and starting this hide and seek game?

  86. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On April 29, 2009 at 6:36 pm


    COCO – I am going through the exact same thing! When I asked my pisces about taking the relationship further, he said “yeah, I was just telling myself that it’s about that time, but I’m scared”. Prior to that, he used to call me baby this, baby that, afterwards, I was just Shannon.

    Pisces men are the most confused people in life! They do not know what they want and when offered to commit they get scared and swim away! I haven’t talked to my Pisces since that day! After months of him telling me how much he loves me!

    Girl, don’t wait around for him, it will only be heartache and pain!

  87. LEO IS RIGHT

    On April 29, 2009 at 9:34 pm


    If they want you, there will be no question. I watched a mute just hold conversations with just about everyone that spoke with him.

  88. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On April 29, 2009 at 9:45 pm


    LOL!!!

  89. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On April 29, 2009 at 9:49 pm


    WELL………..WHAT DO U KNOW..MY PISCES MAN SWAM BACK AFTER A WEEK OF NO CONTACT…HE SENT A TEXT SAYING “HOW R U”.

    WHAT TO DO? SHOULD I EVEN RESPOND TO THIS JERK?

  90. DONT RESPOND SO FAST

    On April 29, 2009 at 10:47 pm


    MAKE HIM WAIT FOR A SECOND.

  91. trinity

    On April 30, 2009 at 8:58 pm


    beauty queen you need to forget him you’re giving him all your power he is using you for money he is a lowlife who knows he has you hooked totally ignore him surely you have better things to do if you miss the good memories keep the memories only let go move forward get busy go walking be free

  92. Sagittarius Lady

    On May 1, 2009 at 9:50 am


    I have been talking to a Pisces man for about 3 weeks now. I work an 8-5 job and he works a 3pm-12am job. We don’t get to see each other much due to our work schedules but we talk/text/email daily. I like that we have our space. He seems to be aware and sometimes stuck on my Sagittarius traits (his sister is also a sag.) he is always telling me stories about his sister and the way she is. He says he knows how much we love our freedom which of course is true. I guess what I’m trying to figure out is…. he talking himself out of furthering any type of relationship possibilities due to me being a Sag? We get along well and he seems very into me. We have a great time together but it’s still new so I’m a little confused by his wishy washy ways of thinking. This is my first experience with a Pisces so this is all very new to me. Any advice is good advice…
    THANK YOU!!

  93. What I learned...

    On May 1, 2009 at 1:45 pm


    My only advice to you is if he really is interested, they will go through hell and high water to get the girl they like. So, if you don’t see any of that, then be objective sure – but either date others or move on.

  94. Leo::..Lioness..::

    On May 1, 2009 at 5:47 pm


    Sagg Lady…all I can say is that Pisces are afraid of committment..so his wishy washy has nothing to do with you. He may be telling you that, but it’s really him TRUST ME!

    Everytime I brought up relationship, I was asked “are you sure your ready” when the whole time he was the one who wasn’t ready.

    Don’t be suprised if he backs away when you two get really close and swim away…

  95. royal D

    On May 1, 2009 at 9:35 pm


    I\’m a Virgo and have been dating a Pisces man for 16mths and boy has it been an emotional rollercoaster. He is very manipulative and he turns on his charm to reel you back in. I\’ve never been in a relationship with a Pisces man, and I don\’t know if I want to. They do play on your feelings towards them to get what they want out of you. He\’s selfish but giving at the same time(2 fish, huh). I\’ve cried many of times due to his harsh remarks.I feel sorry for him cause he doesn\’t see that \”love\” is being given to him. Yes, he is a freak also, but that is not what I\’m drawn to.He also doesn\’t compromise. He speaks whats on his mind regardless if it hurts you. He also is afraid to express his \”true\” feelings to me. My pisces man is out for himself.As far as finances, he\’s not responsible. And the statement about they tend to stay with the woman that puts up with their nonsense is true. That woman isn\’t good for him cause she won\’t allow him to grow up. She\’s hurting him more than helping him. I really love this guy but I love myself more. These pisces men are really something. you love them and hate them at the same time but your love for them overrides the hate. Enough said.

  96. Leo::..Lioness..:: COULD'T AGREE WITH ROYAL D MORE!

    On May 2, 2009 at 7:29 am


    Royal D, you are absolutley right!!! It’s crazy because I believed in astrology only to a certain extent, but after finding out my guy is a Pisces, and reading into the characteristics and nature of the Pisces Man, boy I’ll tell, I am really, really into this because it describes him perfectly. It sounds like we all are dating the same man!

    But I totally agree with your statement about loving them and hating them all at the same time. And your love does overpower the hate..it’s the REAL definition of a love, hate relationship!

  97. RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    On May 2, 2009 at 9:42 pm


    Run!

  98. Ivy

    On May 3, 2009 at 1:52 am


    I agree, RUN. For the women who are in a new Pisces relationship…take your time. Do not be anxious, relax, and periodically disappear. In other words, a Pisces man needs to be PLAYED every now and then. But then again, that applies to every man. Being somewhat UNPREDICTABLE keeps a man interested, and on his toes. I guarantee you if you play it cool, you can control the relationship/his behavior.

    One last thing, if you can help it….DON’T SLEEP WITH HIM. At least not until you are sure YOU ARE IN CONTROL. INTIMACY WITH THIS MAN, WITHOUT YOU HOLDING THE REIGNS CAN JACK UP YOUR HEART. You need to have a clear head, heart, and a plan when dealing with a Pisces man.

    So for you NUBIES take a chill pill, and DO NOT LET THE PISCES MAN KNOW THAT YOU ARE HEAVY IN LIKE WITH HIM. He likes a challenge, so give him what he wants and then some.

    P.S We women have got to stop giving up our POWER AND OUR ??? If we held back on the intimacy, it would be a lot easier to walk out of a relationship that shows signs of CRAZYNESS. As a matter of fact, we would leave most of the CRAZIES AT THE DOOR

    P.S (2) I think this site is great. Women need to educate, encourage, and uplift one another. That’s the only way we will truly grow.

  99. Wow!

    On May 3, 2009 at 6:41 am


    Wow, I am very suprised at all of these bad experiences. I am a libra woman and have been with my pisces man for 4 years now. It is true that they do get lost in their thoughts, sometimes for a long time. It can be frustrating but at the same time, us women need alone time as well and can be frustrating for them ( no matter the sign).

    To continue my experience, he is a chef, very smart, talented in many different things (almost everything atually)its kind of interesting. sometimes i get lost watching him get lost. As very passionate people, it is very interesting watch them work for they are passionate in anything that they do. He is still so romantic with sparratic cards just because, butterfly kisses that still give me butterflies. He is very attentive, and probably the best listener I have ever known. If I ever had to walk down a dark path in my life he took it upon himself to say dont worry about a thing, and would then pick me up and walk the path for me.

    I’m tearing just thinking about how I have found the perfect man. We are married now and have been for 2 years and just like everything else in his life, his passion has never left.

    Sometimes its easier for a pisces man to fix everyone elses problems but their own, that doesn’t mean they are too lazy to fix their own problems. I see it as them always putting other people in front of them, and that to me shows how big of a heart alot of them which I know quite a few of them have.

    Thank you to whoever has read this and realized that no, not all pisces men are shmucks. The way they can make us feel……..Oh my god! They make connections to you that you cant explain!, I feel like a woman and yes I get a chefs breakfast in bed! The most romantic sign! If you find one that can really look into your eyes and you feel him and his thoughts honor his heart and it will honor you. Sorry I will end this now with another thank you so thank you, for I am blessed with a real man.

  100. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    On May 3, 2009 at 6:43 pm


    We don’t believe it. Probably a pisces that needs to redeem himself posting.

  101. VirgoLady

    On May 4, 2009 at 10:00 am


    Im a Virgo who was in a relationship for 8 months. I decided to pursue modeling and the Pisces male wanted to be friends. Then when he saw I wasn’t letting up, the relationship was back on. He told me that he was soul searching and fighting some inner battles. I also felt like I was putting more into the relationship than he was. I would go out my way for him, but for him to do that for me… it was a problem. After a week of not talking, he decided that the past was the past and he was going to show me that he was going to make things 50/50. Then he went back to trying to convince me to give up modeling again or he would use certain scenarios which involved me putting modeling on hold and moving with him. I feel its a control thing. He wants to control his woman so she can look to only him and so he can mold her into what he wants her to be. I am waiting on my Pisces but not too much. Its been about 2 weeks since we talked. I deleted him off of myspace, facebook, you name it. He was treating everyone online better than he was treating me. In fact, he was ignoring me. People who didn’t give a damn about him and never did for him the way I did, were getting the star treatment. I was the one who bent over backwards for him. I was the one he came to when they disappointed him. I was the one who he would wake up late at night to talk for hours. I was thinking… “If they only know what type of man he really is.” He tells white lies, to make himself look better. He is very controlling. He is a user, if you allow him to be. He did cheat on me at one point. He told me one night on his father’s birthday(he passed away when he was 16). I told him it was over then and I would wake up to text messages and voice messages with him crying and begging me to come back to him. I have noticed that he latches on to those he feels are not in the same league as him. People from poor family backgrounds or very low income areas. He tends to try and pursue friendships and relationships with many. If you have a better job than he does or more education, unless you are his pastor, you do not meet the credentials to be in his circle. I personally feel it is so, he can be the advice giver and feel like he is the important saint. I refuse to allow him to mistreat me and think I am going to stay around like a puppet. I don’t care if I have to wait months. If I am with someone else when I hear from him again, he doesn’t deserve the satisfaction of knowing he was coming. If I am not seeing anyone before he decides to come around again, I have a lot to say. It would take a miracle before I allow him back. I’m a Virgo by the way.

  102. VirgoLady

    On May 4, 2009 at 10:03 am


    Im a Virgo who was in a relationship for 8 months. I decided to pursue modeling and the Pisces male wanted to be friends. Then when he saw I wasn’t letting up, the relationship was back on. He told me that he was soul searching and fighting some inner battles. I also felt like I was putting more into the relationship than he was. I would go out my way for him, but for him to do that for me… it was a problem. After a week of not talking, he decided that the past was the past and he was going to show me that he was going to make things 50/50. Then he went back to trying to convince me to give up modeling again or he would use certain scenarios which involved me putting modeling on hold and moving with him. I feel its a control thing. He wants to control his woman so she can look to only him and so he can mold her into what he wants her to be.

    I am waiting on my Pisces but not too much. Its been about 2 weeks since we talked. I deleted him off of myspace, facebook, you name it. He was treating everyone online better than he was treating me. In fact, he was ignoring me. People who didn’t give a damn about him and never did for him the way I did, were getting the star treatment. I was the one who bent over backwards for him. I was the one he came to when they disappointed him. I was the one who he would wake up late at night to talk for hours. I was thinking… “If they only know what type of man he really is.” He tells white lies, to make himself look better. He is very controlling. He is a user, if you allow him to be. He did cheat on me at one point. He told me one night on his father’s birthday(he passed away when he was 16). I told him it was over then and I would wake up to text messages and voice messages with him crying and begging me to come back to him.

    I have noticed that he latches on to those he feels are not in the same league as him. People from poor family backgrounds or very low income areas. He tends to try and pursue friendships and relationships with many. If you have a better job than he does or more education, unless you are his pastor, you do not meet the credentials to be in his circle. I personally feel it is so, he can be the advice giver and feel like he is the important saint. I refuse to allow him to mistreat me and think I am going to stay around like a puppet. I don’t care if I have to wait months. If I am with someone else when I hear from him again, he doesn’t deserve the satisfaction of knowing he was coming. If I am not seeing anyone before he decides to come around again, I have a lot to say. It would take a miracle before I allow him back.

  103. VirgoLady

    On May 4, 2009 at 10:17 am


    I would also like to mention that when I confronted him about how he treated me after I have been there for him, he was quiet as a mouse. I told him that I may be too much of a self respecting and dignified women for him. He said “I don’t think so.” I said “So what you gave me and how you treated me, is that all you are saying that I am worth? I’m better than that. I deserved more than you gave me and I gave you more than you deserve.” Not a word was said after.

  104. RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

    On May 4, 2009 at 4:24 pm


    Run. I am serious. Just run. Run as fast as you can.

  105. They never know

    On May 4, 2009 at 4:26 pm


    what they want. they go back and forth. they pick the one closest to the end of the tree. someone that they dont have to work for. someone they are most comfortable with. if you are comfortable with never being who you are to appease him then he is ok. but if you want peace in your mind. leave.

  106. Wow!

    On May 8, 2009 at 11:31 am


    I’m going to disregard the comment made on 102 and ask, has anyone out there shared my good fortune with pisces men? Anyone?

  107. opinionated pisces man

    On May 8, 2009 at 2:17 pm


    correction FINGER… no time to proof read ..lol

  108. we are not biased towards all pisces men

    On May 8, 2009 at 3:29 pm


    An opnionated pisces man,

    Most of us here describing our relationships with pisces men, do not claim that ALL pisces men are horrible. However, we are sharing our experiences and opinions as a support for the article. We are not trying to bash all pisces men, but to tell our stories and give advice to those who have been or are currently in a relationship with them based on our own experiences. Suprisingly, most of us here have faced similar problems and noticed similar traits. This is not to say that all of it has to do with the zodiac sign but it is a huge part of it. This page has nothing to do with stereotyping. We know that we all have our faults. This is not what this discussion is all about. I personally have come across four pisces males in my life, and all four of them were jerks by looking at the true personality and their true intentions. Also, we not saying never date a pisce man. We are simply providing information for those who want to know. So, what you said is 90% irrelevant.

  109. Leo::..Lioness..:: Totally In Agreeance

    On May 8, 2009 at 5:38 pm


    Totally in agreeance with #111. Well put…enough said…

  110. Beauty Queen

    On May 8, 2009 at 6:30 pm


    I totally agree with #111 as well. I started my relationship with my Pisces man 7 months ago and it has been emotional rollacoaster.
    Back then and until I started reading this page I did not know why he was acting the way he was. Now this page helped me understand how he thinks a lot. Something most Pisces will never confront you and tell you what they are planning or doing.

    Now “Opinionated Pisces Man” I respect your view but PLEASE turn the table around and feel the experiences and pain we all went through. What would you think if you were in our shoes with VERY similar experiences. I mean how hard is it for a Pisces man to “Say it is OVER” when it is rather than giving us the ignoring signal and showing up later. How hard is it to be considerate and sensitive back to us when we have done everything we can to PLEASE him. It is only fair!!

    I am sorry I ma very hurt and have been crying because of my Pisces today. He makes promises and rarely follow through and if I ask him “Why” he makes up lies and continue to do it more. Then if I do not talk to him for 2 days like we usually try to talk everyday then he makes sure he does not talk to me for 3 days. I feel like I deal with a child not a mature person and VERY selfish. Sometimes I wish I was not a cancer woman or a sensitive woman in general, may be I would have been a little harsh on him and could have won him over :(

  111. mabel

    On May 8, 2009 at 8:16 pm


    to opinionated pisces the only finger pointing at you pisces boys is the MIDDLE FINGER

  112. MABEL

    On May 8, 2009 at 8:48 pm


    TO BEAUTY QUEEN can’t you see he’s playing you? you are feeding his ego. get some self respect ignore him it’s a onesided relationship if he cared about you he wouldn’t treat you this way TELL HIM TO PUT ON HIS BIG BOY PANTS AND DROP DEAD THE ENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND

  113. opinionated pisces man

    On May 8, 2009 at 10:08 pm


    its perfectly understandable.. some of the stuff i read was interesting and others just seem like it was a pisces witch hunt. i already get enough bashing from astrologers saying that we are weak willed,gullible,indecisive individuals…they make it seem like we are naive airheads that have no direction in life.)and thats just the half of it ..i would say about 95% of the time,i approach a woman they always ask my sign and i say a pisces,then they quickly back off. im not gonna be deceptive and act like i have always worn a halo over my head. i use to play games when i was younger (hence the word USE TO past tense)..but when the tables turn on you & you begin to reap what you sow ..its changes you. so i have learned the errors of my ways but some how im haunted by females that are deeply into astrology..so im sorry if i come off a little defensive about this topic..it just seems like a never ending saga for me personally. but only time will tell

  114. Pisces Men - Suck (Sorry to shatter your dreams)

    On May 9, 2009 at 12:38 am


    You do. And if you don’t believe in astrology or that traits can be lesson points then don’t buy it. We happen to understand that astrology and psychology go hand in hand. There are so many accounts even the bible has references of stars and predictions.

    Each one of us have lessons strengths and weaknesses according to our signs. It’s just that right now we are discussing Pisces weaknesses. And if you can’t take it, then don’t come over here. If you want to offer a word of advice and be open and honest about the weaknesses that we discuss or how to relate then fine. But don’t give me or any other people that “pointing fingers” crap.

    We ALL couldn’t be having the same reaction to the same guy. These are DIFFERENT guys with the SAME strengths and weaknesses. Various factors come into play but we are talking about the CORE similarities and weaknesses that these men find themselves CHALLENGED by and the women who love them.

    If you had a wonderful pisces, that’s fine. But many people that believe that they have a wonderful pisces are duped.

  115. You ALL are WEAK WILLED

    On May 9, 2009 at 12:43 am


    What are you talking about?

    You all ARE weak willed and indecisive. That’s the two fish that are swimming back and forth. One wants to just go with the flow and the other one wants to follow his heart and go against the stream. So, I don’t know why you are so defensive? Just admit that we are on to something and do some self reflection and change your ways (improve). If you don’t need to change your ways, be of some good use and tell these women who are being DUPED by your pisces brothers how to get untangled.

  116. Opinionated Pisces Man - How did you even find this site?

    On May 9, 2009 at 12:53 am


    How did you even find this site?

  117. opinionated pisces man

    On May 9, 2009 at 4:59 am


    maybe some might be but not all of us are weak willed. some people act like what they say in some of these books are set in stone ..but hey i know leo people that are followers ,i know geminis & libras that are indecisive. i know virgos who are 2faced. so it all boils down to your experiences ..so i know ..now as far as the women that have been dumped without reason..think of it this way i know it’s wrong to just up and leave someone in a relationship but i also realize that NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO ANYONE unless being married with kids and even still with vows being presented in front of GOD people still cheat. so i know you heard the motto “IN LIFE THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES”..so NOTHING IS PROMISED TO YOU,NOT YOUR LIFE,YOUR HOUSE,YOUR CAR,YOUR JOB..SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK A SIGNIFICANT OTHER IS PROMISED TO YOU.” i am a deep abstract thinker so i always play these situations out in my head a thousand times over that way i will never truly get disappointed..so you ever heard the saying “ALWAYS EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED” so thats my my creed the code i live by. dont get me wrong i sympathize for all of ya’ll pain. i truly do but you have to ask yourself “am i a glutton for punishment” and if you arent then show it by your actions. prove it to yourselves ladies that you will and must do better..listen to your minds not just your hearts.

  118. Amen

    On May 9, 2009 at 9:05 am


    Amen!!!!

  119. lulu

    On May 9, 2009 at 4:10 pm


    it seems pisces chase scorpios cancers chase pisces and scorpio chases cancers

  120. Virgo

    On May 10, 2009 at 6:23 am


    This is meant for the post who has a 9 to 5 job and her pisces has a 3 to 12 job. My first love a pisces found me after 25 years and fed me all the lines of us truly being soulmates not being taught how to treat women because his mother emotionally abused him. The truth was he is an FDNY EMT who works nights and trolls the internet looking for women he can have affairs with on his off time. He lives with a girlfriend with their two children, has twins from someone else and has another by a smart woman who took their child and ran. The girlfriend he lives works a 9 to 5 job and he meets woman to fill his time. He tells you that he feels guilty because she is a good mother but she doesn’t give him enough sex. It is him the problems. The problem is that he is a major manipulator and has the pisces act down to a tee. Now with facebook and myspace he has a pool of women that he can swim among. If you find out you caught yourself a pisces, throw him back in.

  121. Hurt and Confused by Pisces

    On May 11, 2009 at 11:18 am


    Amen and Amen to #122 and 123, who is obviously the same person (lol), but making EXCELLENT and VERY ACCURATE assessmentsof these men, at least that’s my experience!

  122. Royal D

    On May 12, 2009 at 8:54 pm


    I agree with #111,112,113 and the statement from #122 about the virgo just switch into “revenge” mode not being 2faced as someone had state. We women love “hard”, but once we see that its like bumping our head against the wall over and over again, speaking for me, I’ve become numb emotionally and want revenge. Even though I’ve backed off somewhat towards my bipolar fish,i’m willing to stick in there, but at a distance. I love my indecisive, manipulating fish boy.

  123. arieschica

    On May 13, 2009 at 8:18 am


    I was in love with a pisces still am. He is the most amazing person i’ve ever met in my life. But I broke his heart more than he could handle, and i kept doing and doing it to push his buttons, well I was the loser in the end. He forgave many times over for all the hurt i put him thru but in the end we never wound up back together b/c i hurt him way too much. I cheated, lied, adn did things that were horrible, and i always wanna show him that i just wasn’t ready, but i am now. He doesn’t wanna hear it. We’re still really close, we’re best friends actually, and I can’t help but think that he still is in love w/me too, and wants to keep me close. He drives me nuts, with his “i need to be alone” moments that turn into an all day thing. Or the fact that he’s hard to read, and doesn’t express his feelings that often if at all. He’s the most intelligent, caring, tender, and deep guy i’ve ever met. I can’t help but think i’ll never meet a guy like him. Aries woman and Pisces man is a match made in hell according to many, but i think we could work it out. Though we’re both selfish, emotional, and crazy, i think we balance eachother. I brought him out of his shell, and he helped me become more sensitive to ppl’s feelings.

  124. arieschica

    On May 13, 2009 at 8:26 am


    oh and…(sorry this is becoming an essay) but sexually pisces is the best, i don’t know if i should be saying this, but it’s true. I haven’t read anything that mentioned that. You can get hooked on that stuff, seriously. Me & that Pisces broke b/c of a love triangle, he fell in love with a friend of mine, who is a cancer. Tough luck for me i know. They’re the perfect match, after a year long relationship w/ me he ended up falling for her. Never pursued her b/c of hurting me though, but he always was telling me that he loves her. And get this she loves him too. It’s been a year and a half since we broke up and i’ve moved on (w/ a capricorn) but he still is in love with her. It’ almost sad now, because it’s like he’s stuck and lonely without anyone.

  125. susan

    On May 13, 2009 at 6:37 pm


    arieschica confused as to what your last 2 sentences said he is still in love with cancer but now stuck and lonely without anyone what happened to cancerian girl?

  126. arieschica

    On May 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm


    they didn’t wanna pursue a relationship b/c they didn’t want to hurt me. we were really close (me and the cancer girl), and he (pisces boy) was still trying to remain friends with me. so they decided to not get into a relationship, even though until this day they’ll admit they have feelings for eachother.

  127. matilda

    On May 13, 2009 at 9:45 pm


    arieschica you should give them you’re blessing and let hem see each other true love for them then karma will give you you’re leo or sag man

  128. Ms. Virgo

    On May 14, 2009 at 5:37 pm


    I have been with my Pisces for 5 1/2 years. We are engaged to be married next year. First of all I agree with both sides of the argument. Pisces are manipulative and indecisive. They are very secretive and hide their feelings. It can be one of the most frustrating tasks in the world to try and understand and get along with Pisces, especially for a Virgo. On the other hand they are very caring and fun to be around. They have an optimism that can be very refreshing. I will say that with Pisces it is VERY important to put your foot down, and I mean hard! They need direction and if you don’t take control you may find yourself in a place you do not want to be. It takes a lot of patience to deal with Pisces but it is very rewarding. I am not pretending that they are not a challenge, I am all too aware of their shortcomings. You have to remember that the more Pisces matures, the better they are and the more they can control those undesirable tendencies. You have to let them no in no uncertain terms that you will NOT put up with the B.S. I was ready to walk out on my fish and he knew I was serious. Needless to say we worked it out. Although some things will never completely change, like the financial irresposibility for example, they can greatly improve. You have to work on one thing at a time. Don’t let them drive you crazy! By all means, if they don’t have a handle on their fishy ways, hit the door…. the sooner the better. It will be hard enough with a good Pisces. No need to stick around with a fish that ONLY swims upstream.

  129. Royal D

    On May 15, 2009 at 7:05 pm


    Ms.Virgo,thanks for that encouraging story. I do love my “immature” pisces man very much. What you said as well as the others have stated about them it is true. Patience, Patience, Patience.We as virgos love order, but Mr.Pisces bring excitement and causes us to relax and move beyond our boundaries. I too recently was leaving my fish,but as always we worked it out, and he acts if it never happened. Do they ever apologize/admit when they are in the wrong.

  130. multi

    On May 15, 2009 at 8:39 pm


    i used to see a pisces who then decided to settle for a woman who was no good and had issues,,,we wasnt boyfriend and girlfriend.. i did let him know what he would of had… but he prob felt he had to play the hero to her..
    but he was nice and upfront at all times..i have now encountered a pisces who couldnt stop calling.. then when meeting calmed down with the calling… put at the same time comes across as posseive like who was i talking to.. pick up your phone if he cant get hold of me..i asked him who knows about me he said no one yet… now this is only a two week thing.. but reading this i see what he could be like.. he said dont tell me everything your thinking emotion wise.. now i said i would call him over the weekend..he said fine but if i dont answer it because im with my friends….im older then him by a couple of years and have to be realistic in the fact that even though id like it to become serious because he has some good qualitys.. he has proven not to be taken seriously by some of the things he has said.. so i will not call him.. and see what happens..i will remain strong and treat him how he treats me..its like you have to leave them guessing or in suspense to get thre attension…. and yes some scopioan women like to play them games.. i love you want you dont want you hate you.. and the pisces men love it.. strange xxx

  131. Run

    On May 16, 2009 at 3:08 am


    Runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

  132. Ms. Virgo

    On May 16, 2009 at 1:43 pm


    Royal D,
    The funny thing is that in my experience Pisces apologize when you least expect it. The way to make them realize that they’re wrong is not to react to what they have done. This gives them time to be alone and think. Instead if engaging in a shouting match, just quietly leave the room. He will call out for you to stay, but just keep it moving. After a while, he will come to you, realizing he was wrong and apologize.

  133. Run

    On May 17, 2009 at 11:24 am


    Runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

  134. little Cappy

    On May 17, 2009 at 2:10 pm


    Run, I think that pisces should run, not we :)
    So after the short “relationship” me and my pisces were friends, for 10 years. ales, not actually friends bc there was always something between us..anyway, just to mention that I wrote some comments above, and I agree with all of you, ppl;
    and one more thing, after two weeks of no contact at all with my cyber-horny “friend”, he contacts me with the news that he has a girlfried now, “expecting her at his flat to have wild sex with him” so, what – I was cool and even supported him..what did he expect, comeon, he isnt that aporeciated by me as he thought B-)
    @multi, sure – it seems that pisces really like to be “victims” in such games hehe

  135. run

    On May 17, 2009 at 6:40 pm


    They play to many games. Runnnnnnnnnnnnn for your lives. I am serious. They waste your time. And if you are over 16, it’s not fun or funny.

  136. sheena

    On May 17, 2009 at 10:20 pm


    AMEN to you capricorn women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  137. little Cappy

    On May 21, 2009 at 3:44 pm


    well yes, I agree that they play many games, i give you that…but they are not so wicked or nasty…; i mean, what if they run across the more ‘dangerous’ species hehe ;)
    but, you’re right, Run – it’s not so funny :-/
    Apparently most of them are lets say tough cookie. But their biggest problem is, themselves I think; something isnt right with their feelings or so..
    Locked in their daydreams, fantasies & ideal pictures, they miss the right people and right opportunities in life

  138. ::..Leo Lioness..::

    On May 21, 2009 at 6:23 pm


    For all of the women that complained that pisces men up and left them, I think I figured out why. Pisces men need their space. Once you start to smother them, they well swim away. If a pisces man say they love you, believe it, as it is true, but they need to be able to swim freely or they will swim away. Pisces are best in relationships with women who allow them their space. If you smother the pisces man, he will rebel. Let me know what you all think.

  139. little Cappy

    On May 22, 2009 at 11:14 am


    Lioness, I agree and I supose that the reason for that is: they afraid to show their own flaws or to see other peoples’ flaws, so they rather swim away in their world..
    they simply feel more secure in that way. Also, they often don’t have the idea what they want – at least, it seems to be like that.
    Not so brave & noble people, lol

  140. ::..Leo Lioness..::

    On May 23, 2009 at 2:40 pm


    Sleepless in San Francisco – I can definitely relate to what you are saying. When I first met my pisces, he went on and on about how he didn’t want me to hurt him, and that his ex cheated on him so badly and how he has trust issues…

    He never does what he say he will but I better do what I say I am going to do or he curses me out and calls me names. Today for example, it’s 3:30 in the afternoon and I still haven’t heard from him. I will NEVER date a pisces man ever again! I am so serious that now I automatically ask a guy his sign before even thinking about giving him my number!

  141. capricorn woman

    On May 23, 2009 at 8:23 pm


    I was dating this pisces man and at first he texted me as far as 32 times per day,starting early morning.telling me he needed to see me every other day. he came to my son’s bday party and met everyone i know,even my ex. he introduced me to all his friends and he never like to be far from me,always touching me and kissing me.out of no where he just became distant and didnt text or call,i let him know how much it was hurting me and that i did love him,,i told him how i felt and said goodbye. it’s been six days and no word. i did absolutely nothing. iam heartbroken and confused, i mean we shared our dreams and hopes together, a connection was there in our kissing. what happend?

  142. IVY

    On May 24, 2009 at 1:07 am


    Hey fellow CAPRICORN sister. I am soooo sorry for your pain. Your Pisces behavior was RUDE, AND HIGHLY DISRESPECTFUL. But with that being said, it’s time for you to get a plan.

    I don’t know why he did what he did, but what I do know is that you can control how you respond to his PSYCHOTIC BEHAVIOR. When he returns, and he will, I want you to give him some final thoughts (do not express any anger-he’s not worth it) and release him.

    You are a single mom, and you need to be emotionally healthy at ALL TIMES for your child.

    Any man that disrespects you on any level needs to be IMMEDIATELY removed from your life. You are a CAPRICORN!! You know we don’t accept GARBAGE from ANYBODY.

    So chalk this up to an UNCOMFORTABLE LIFE EXPERIENCE, and thank God that he didn’t leave you with a LIFE LONG SCAR. Look at it like this, GOD WAS PROTECTING YOU FROM SOMETHING THAT REALLY COULD HAVE DESTROYED YOU. Wipe those tears, and as my Capricorn mother would say “YOU HAVE LOST NOTHING”!!!!

    P.S For insight into who I am, and my Pisces experience check out #22, and #24, and #40.

    P.S (2) Next time be very leary of any man that wants to monopolize all of your time. Thirty-two text, and he wants to see you daily…….THAT’S FRIGHTENIG. That behavior should have told you he was unstable. I pray that you receive peace……AND IN TIME A GOOD MAN.

  143. Capricorn Woman

    On May 24, 2009 at 8:17 am


    @ IVY…Thank you it’s true we don’t cast pearls at swine. I was on a journey back & forth with him about letting him in & the last conversation we had, we expressed our concerns. The last things he said to me was how much he did not want to lose me! It is Psychotic behavior..he even got upset one day because i was going to take a friend to run some errands,that night still he told me that he could have gone with me.i took it as he was just really into me,but i guess not-maybe its just a control thing,who knows. If he does come back iam going to not respond to his text or call-i’m just not picking up or texting back,he can have a dose of his own medicine & good riddens! I will let you know thought what happens. Thanks again*

  144. IVY

    On May 24, 2009 at 11:23 pm


    Capricorn Woman I am sooooo happy you are STANDING STRONG. This experience will make you a STRONGER SUPERWOMAN.

    Chat soon.

  145. Moonmaid

    On May 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm


    I just like this site!!! I am a cusp..more of a cancer though.. my birthdate is 06/21 (35 years)..I met a 45 years old pisces man 6 month ago,and there was a weird chemistry from the first time our eyes met..and yes a lot of what’s mentioned above is true.He drives me nuts but I am trying all my best not to show it to him.He could be the most romatice person ever today & the next day he is somebody else..he turns to be vey cold.He never calls unless we are about to meet,even the text msgs., he takes a long time until he responds.He was out of an 8 years relationship when I met him.It is true that they never share or open easily..Just about 2 wks ago when he started sharing a little about his ex.I never ask him about anything..I just leave him to talk if he wanted to..very important thing to avoid pressure with them by the way. I am trying a new game with him..no texting until he text..never call him.Am hoping that will let him understand that I am not that much into him or in another words I am changeable so that he does not take me for granted..I know that if pisces felt he already had you, then u r done! He already mentioned last time we met him that he does not understand me & that I am full of contradiction which is a good thing.I know also about them that they whine if they are not the center of attention, that’s why they come back when you do not respond to them.I understand how hectic that back & forth thing could be..am not sure if he would change & have more stable feelings though.Am sure that he does not want to get involved with a relationship after his bad experience at least for now.Another thing about them is they are not bold enough to face any challanges in terms of relationships..they tend to hide.I have no idea where am I heading with him..so hard to predict with someone like them.What I want to say to all women who are going through that back & forth thing is this is pisces, so if you are ready to have control over your emotions and u r patient enough,it might be rewarding..This man has two personalities, one is so romantic & lovable & anothet one is totally the opposite. The later pops up when he gets what he wants !

  146. Royal D

    On May 26, 2009 at 7:55 pm


    This is in response to Leo Lioness#140 comment, i truly agree with you about the pisces needing their space.They do not like to be smothered. You are in control my sister. Give him time. Just sit back and relax. Queen, he needs you. He may not act like it but I’m learning, they want a strong woman that is not “needy”. Not saying you are needed, but they love their space. your comment about not dating another pisces, don’t be so hard on him. you know he’s wishy washy. I feel your pain. But remember what i said, you love them and hate them at the same time, but your love overrides the hate. Give him a chance. I did and i’m content. like others have commented, ignore him. They do like to be challenged. I’ve learned a lot in such a short time since my first entry. I love my pisces, and i overlook his failures. Don’t give up unless you’ve had enough. The ball is in your court.

  147. Capricorn Woman

    On May 27, 2009 at 8:54 pm


    Look like Iam not going to get a chance to give him a piece of my mind…because I did want to! lol it’s been nine days,that fishy isn’t swimming my way.

  148. trinity

    On May 27, 2009 at 9:36 pm


    capricorn woman oh he’ll come around but just ignore him like he doesn’t exist

  149. Virgo

    On May 28, 2009 at 1:10 pm


    I am the person who wrote #122. When do people stop playing games and just learn to love each other? Ignore them and they will come back, when they come back pretend like you aren’t into them to keep them interested. It is downright exhausting? Is it really worth it in the end, it never is. You keep playing games because you truly don’t know which personality is going to show up on any given day. When do you ever get to be who you really are and have a real relationship. Life is too short to waste your time on playing these ridiculous cat and mouse games. Find a man that knows that loving you is the ultimate prize. If you start playing games early on, they continue throughout your relationship. This is not the game of LIFE it is your real life. Live it well and fill it with the people who want to be there. This comes from my very own experience with a pisces that lasted decades.

  150. Exactly

    On May 28, 2009 at 2:52 pm


    Thank you!!!

  151. Leo Lady

    On May 28, 2009 at 3:15 pm


    This is a response to Moonmaid #147:Has it occurred to you that the Pisces man you’re interested in has been in a “back and forth” relationship with his “ex” for over 8 years now? Including the last 6 months. I even bet he spent Christmas and New Years with her as a family. And that she probably kicked him out because he drove her crazy? Can you imagine that she wanted it that way because she needed her space. If he’s emotionally shut down right now, it’s because she hurt him (even though he did nothing wrong, lol) and he is licking his wounds on a deep level. You can bet she’s a pro at the so-called “game” and when andor if she wants him back, she knows exactly how to do it, regardless of who he’s seeing. I know this is not what you want to hear, but my guess is, if you’re already sleeping with him, then you’ve just turned into the “rebound girl” and he has you exactly where he wants you no matter how hot you are or how long you make him wait for return calls or texts. You are right about your ananlysis of the Piscean male, however, that being said why would you want someone whose heart belongs to someone else. And why would you want to play games to “be” with him. Don’t forget, he is a major game player here and he knows how to get to you hooked (especially the big-hearted Cancer). You say he waits forever to return your calls or texts? Only calls when he wants to see you? Hmmm, looks like you’re already being played (he may even be with his ex at the very moment you do call). I’m sure if she’s had him for 8 years she’s getting what she wants when she wants it on her terms. I’m guessing she’s better at the game than you are (8 years is a long time) and mark my words, you will be the one left out in the cold wondering what the hell happened. In my opinion, if a man says he doesn’t want a relationship after sleeping with you, he wants you for a good time while keeping his options open. And if this Pisces man was with a woman for that long, trust me he will want to win her back no matter what he says and how romantic he is with you. Just try and say anything negative about her and watch his reaction. Unless, of course, he’s playing the “waaaa, she was so mean to me boo hoo, I tried my best but she was so screwed up…” card. Good Luck Moonmaid. You’ll need it.

  152. #153 agree & disagree

    On May 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm


    I disagree with #153 w/the length of the old girl. I know quite a few women who stayed for a long time and were actually just comfort chicks until the pisces guy went and married someone completely the opposite. There is no way of really knowing with them. I do agree that staying around trying to figure them out is a waste of time. I know quite a few pisces, one being my brother, who are still with their “main” girlfriend but are actively looking for replacements. If you aren’t playing games with them you really need to go to someone who doesnt like playing games.

  153. If his heart belonged to the ex...

    On May 28, 2009 at 4:47 pm


    he wouldnt be cheating on her in the first place. Raise the bar and your standards. Pisces like a love affair and they will stop at nothing to get it including cheating to find someone else. Liz Taylor had what? 6 husbands..lol

  154. #145

    On May 28, 2009 at 4:49 pm


    It is a control thing. You have to be careful because they are not just weak guppy ass fish. They are calculating and they like to win. Even if it means treating you like an object or prize. Keep playing hard ball.

  155. thelma

    On May 28, 2009 at 11:54 pm


    just simply make a pisces man chase you never say you love him don’t call or text let him do it THE END

  156. Leo Lady

    On May 29, 2009 at 1:56 pm


    Response to #155: Who said anything about cheating. I’ve know a few Pisces mean who have stayed in a long term relationship with women and they were not “comfort chicks”. Although their woman kicked them to the curb, they stayed “single” in their mind and pined secretly for them. However, I think that “Moonmaid” is the comfort chick no matter how hard she plays ball. They are not weak but they do believe in LOVE.

  157. Moonmaid

    On May 29, 2009 at 9:29 pm


    Response to Leo Lady: Truth always reveals itself..If he is still with his ex, then everything will show up.I trusted him when I knew that they are not together anymore..He did not mention any details about her.. bad or good.All what was mentioned is that she was not giving him his space.I am still out of a 10 years relation and I was hoping for a simple better one but obviously I came accross another tough one.I was not intending to play any games with him but I figured out that being very straight with a pisces is not helpful & it just leaves you waiting & feeling bad about yourself..so I thought why don’t I treat him the same way he treats me ? I was attracted to him because we share a lot in common. & If I were the comfort chick then I believe he is very lucky just for now but I won’t be that for long ! You mentioned a good point any ways..Thanks !
    To all other ladies : Away from my story & in my point of view about a pisces man, they are kind, senstive, sentimental, artists, they see the hidden beauty in evetything, they live in their own world..u could be invited to see their world if they trusted u, but make sure not to stay for too long because that world belongs to them only.They do not like commitment, moody,negative,stuborn,you can’t rely on them, can’t predict what they might do because everyday they are somebody new….They need prayers :)

  158. Moonmaid

    On May 29, 2009 at 11:18 pm


    To #160: Just wanted to say thanks !

  159. mello yello

    On May 30, 2009 at 4:00 pm


    hello out there!!here’s a great story.Sad but true.my PI guy had got himself in some trouble a year ago.He and his family have a little store near where I was living near a beautiful beach.We met one day as I went in the store and yes scorpio girl falls for pi guy,both love at first sight!He’s a bit defensive cause his last girl left him for another guy..I let him tell me his story first while I held off mine.He was also very scared cause he was in trouble faceing his first jail time for something small that had to do with the pain she left him in…so,I had alot of education on domestic violence,abuse,and alcolism etc…..He did not rely on me heavily,but it came to four day’s before the sentenceing and his younger brother had patssed away the same week as he and his family had to deal with his legal touble,so, i decided to help him.I did not show at the court with the family and him but I gave them all the information i researched on how to handle his case to share with there lawyer.It saved from a 90 day stay in jail and it reduced his stay down to 25 days so I had helped the lawyer and them very well and they appreciated it very much..Now the other part of the story is that there was another girl in his life of the same nationality and culture who is obsessed with him and helped him to end up in this legal trouble,he is not in love with her but there is huge family pressure to be obligated to her due to money in her family.her family is offering the money to him to marry her cause they and she are desparate to get it done.He has tried to explain to his family that he has more feelings for me,and that i make him happy and that he has not one happy day with this other girl brenda.He has tried hard but he is also afraid of her father,her family and the money is something he would judt give his family as he would rather have me than any of the money.The last 2 day’s before they released him from the jail.he and and a friend were watching each other’s back but the friend got released before him and it ended up that while my pi guy was left alone for those 2 day’s he was raped and beaten up bu a prison guard deliberatly.When he got out of the jail all he wanted was to see me but brenda was stalking him at his family’s store where he also had to be.She didn’t know of the assault at first,he was tramatized and his family and her’s yelled at him to get his act together and marry her!!It’s awful.This girl has been his batterer for quite some time,and he get’s weaker each time she hurt’s him or put’s him through more hell,I moved away to another town still close to the old one,I have kept a distance to give him space and be supportive cause i feel he is still in love with me due to his action’s more than his word’s.I gave him information on being a battered man and he did try to escape her and the situation,I reccomended to go away to heal and get some treatment without letting him know at first that I knew of the assault and also that I didn’t know the pressure he was ubder with this brenda girl.He kept it hidden from me cause he did’nt want to loose me.It’s a bad situation and for a pi guy where they are so hypersesitive yet machao.,he’s confused and need’s alot of help including the fact that his family only know a little of his back injury’s and the assaut etc,of course he’s embarressed and all about it..The girl know’s now of the assault,but being all family friend’s she has not been honest with his family about the assault.I feel that it’s wrong,I waited for someone who knew to go to bat for him and tell the parent’s respectivly so they would stop the girl and the pressure of marrige proceedings to continue…..I ended up writing a small note to the parent’s on my own to speak to the girl and a couple other people who knew of the assault to get them to heat the truth from more closer people as I do not know if they beleived me or not,they would beleive her more.She lied to their faces saying she knew nothing and the hurt for him continue’s and she still trying to bed and wed him for her own selfish purposes.He and I have not spoke for some time now although he called and let me hear 6 minute’s of orchestra music on the phone for me.He know’s he is trapped but yet could get out of the obligation.Please help me.I don’t know what to do and I’m afraid he will get so depressed he will hurt himself cause he can’t think straight right now and guy’s don’t go to counceling like girls do.Would someone help me?I love him still, alot. Thankuou.

  160. Girl, bye.

    On May 30, 2009 at 7:19 pm


    Now we have any and everybody coming here. Wonder why. lol

  161. Capricorn Woman

    On May 30, 2009 at 9:03 pm


    pisces men don’t come back. at least not in my case…three week in all now.. :( I guess I just didn’t mean what i thought to him. the weird thing is that we never had an argument,nothing. just spoof! he was gone!

  162. Virgo

    On May 31, 2009 at 5:23 am


    Live your life and stop waiting for him to come back. He has moved on for now. When the newness starts to fade, he will become sentimental and begin to think about you. They don’t end anything ever because they want to keep the door open. You need to close the door. If that means sending an email saying that you are done waiting do that. Don’t let anyone control how you live your life. Don’t stop living because you don’t know what tomorrow will bring. You only go this way once make the most of it. Be strong.

  163. Moonmaid

    On May 31, 2009 at 12:02 pm


    To Capricon woman: I think he will come back..he will text you a text that has nothing to do with anything (that’s how they come back)..don’t respond to him if he did that..leave him & after a while he will try again…At that time you could respond but be cold..try to teach him that you are not always there waiting for him. Don’t confront him..just treat him as if you were friends & that he is not special anymore to you anymore !
    Good luck :)

  164. IVY

    On June 1, 2009 at 11:42 pm


    Capricorn, be grateful you haven’t heard from him. God is protecting you from something that could possibly cause you unbearable heartache.

    Stop pining over that man. I know it hurts, and I know you have questions (I too went through the same thing, and had to let him go for SANITY SAKE), BUT TRY TO MENTALLY MOVE ON.

  165. Capricorn Woman

    On June 2, 2009 at 1:57 pm


    Thank you to everybody for giving me your advice. I don’t think he will ever respond, it’s been almost a month & if he cared at all, he would have showed it. I’m ok, not crying or sad, nothing like that. It would have just been nice if he would have cared enough to just say something to me. after all, we never fought you know.

  166. Another Capricorn...

    On June 3, 2009 at 12:22 pm


    There\’s a reason why we are reading about more than one Capricorn experience with Pisces Men. The Piscean man wants and needs a strong women in his life. One who can take the reins and make decisions. However, if the Pisces man shows disrespect to his Cappy, she will take action one way or another. And if she is involved with a man who takes advantage of her look out, cause out he goes. I\’m speaking from experience. I let go of mine a few months ago, and although very difficult, I realized my piece of mind was more important. So I forced myself to move on and found someone way better and even if it doesn\’t work out, I know there\’s better out there. p.s. to Capricorn Woman, he\’ll probably show up once you\’ve hooked up with someone else, if he does, DON\’T TAKE THE BAIT, lol. p.s. Girls, if you like sex, may I suggest a Taurus man (way more giving than my ex!)

  167. Pisces Guy

    On June 3, 2009 at 4:18 pm


    Wow a lot of hating going on for us Pisces.

    I agree that plenty of what you ladies said was true, but at some point you can’t blame that all on a guys sign thats just rediculous.

    I recently got out of a 6 month relationship with a Taurus girl and its been tearing me up inside..I love her and she told me she lost some feelings for her…She used to be CRAZY in love with me and when my feelings for her were really starting to grow she wants a break..

    Is there anyway I can win her back?

  168. Ladies Who Got Duped- Must See

    On June 3, 2009 at 6:24 pm


    Watch the DVD: He’s just not that into you.

    If a guy likes you, he shows it. It’s just that simple. He talks. He actually tries to pursue you. He doesn’t play games. And, he wouldn’t dare risk losing you by playing games. If you have to stay one second on this site pondering and questioning – then he’s just not that into you. That DVD/Movie needs to be a must watch for women in jr. high school (elementary even). It stops us from all of the wondering and calling and guessing.

    Watch that movie, rent that movie, or even buy the book.

    I bought the book and it was nice. I had to remind myself by getting the DVD so I wouldn’t slip back into an illusion that is more than often than not created by a pisces man.

    If he is fishing (flirting or playing games), then that’s all he is doing. And he might throw you back to get what he perceives as a better fish.

    Get someone that is way past fishing and into a relationship. No one over the age of 16 has times to ponder if a guy likes them. It’s juvenile and very egotistical.

    If he likes you, there wouldn’t be a need to compare notes on this site or any other venue. He will tell you. You will know.

    Many high roads and blessings to you.

  169. so true!

    On June 4, 2009 at 12:41 am


    Watch Hes just not that into you.

    If everyone on here watched that movie, there wouldn’t be all of this confusion.

  170. little Cappy

    On June 4, 2009 at 5:18 pm


    oh yes, Another Capricorn,, I agree! :D
    :applause:

  171. Virgo #2

    On June 5, 2009 at 11:45 am


    i am in awe at the comments written here (not so much the article) because they describe exactly the Pisces man i am dating.

    when i first met my pisces man (i am a Virgo btw in case you didnt catch the name) he was a very caring and kind individual. very honest. a good listener. he sounded depressed at first but he still hinted at some hopes and dreams he hoped to achieve. he didn’t have many friends so he was lonely. kind of reserved but that’s expected if you just meet a person for the first time. did not go to school and worked a “normal” job – both which i overlooked because it’s not in my place to tell someone what to do.

    it’s almost been a year of dating and i feel like he’s not even the same person anymore. he’s traded the caring and kind persona for being rude, harsh and selfish. very critical of others. very pessimistic and constantly uses his past to explain why he is. doesn’t give anyone or anything a chance. quit his job. just hangs around the house all day.

    it’s just getting to a point where i’m wondering who am i actually dating? i have confronted him about this issue of change before and he never addressed the question full-on. of course, it’s not fair if i didn’t address what’s going on with me but i can honestly say that i’ve been pretty consistent in the relationship so far. i show him affection and it’s like it just goes straight over his head. although he upsets me a lot, i still like him a lot and try to tell myself that it will be okay if i just ride this out.

    anyway, i am not looking for help or anything. just wanted to share my experience with a pisces man and i’m glad i’m not the only one here with the similar situation.

  172. Confused

    On June 6, 2009 at 3:30 pm


    I have been dating this Pisces guy for about 8 months. He moved to another state 6 montha ago. The thing that I really don’t understand is why the communication between us is only through text messages ? He never calls unless I am on my way to see him. Any thoughts ? Thanks

  173. cheating

    On June 6, 2009 at 5:04 pm


    cheating on you.

  174. Jade

    On June 11, 2009 at 6:25 am


    My boyfriend is a Pisces (I’m Cancer) and every day is like walking on a cloud. He is the most attentive, loyal and selfless person I have ever been with. He writes me songs and poetry, does little thoughtful things for me everyday, he makes plans and follows through. We are happy in our dreamy little bubble together. People ask whats our secret. We are made for each other. He treats me with utter adoration and vice versa.

    Say you don’t believe me, it doesn’t matter. I believe I know the reason why all these negative posts are strikingly similar. If you dig deeply enough you will find posts like this about Aquarius men, Virgo men, Scorpio men….why? because this is not an astrology issue you are having, it’s a man issue, now I am not disregarding Astrology, I believe in it whole heartedly BUT a common theme here is women saying ie ” I gave him everything/travelled to him/ put him first/showed him unconditional love/forgave him/nurtured him etc etc etc ” THATS your problem ladies!

    When you do so much for a man, when you put him before yourself you are quietly communicating to him LOW SELF ESTEEM, this in turn KILLS attraction. It is these very things that cause him to lose interest to play around, to hurt you because he knows he can…in turn the woman blames her self and starts trying to FIX things, she becomes more attentive, more loving, more giving and he drifts further away.

    All men, sorry MOST men want a woman who exudes confidence, who is secure in herself, who has her own fulfilling life and doesn’t depend on her relationship for her happiness, who puts herself first and has enough self love that she will not tolerate any bad behavior, she was toss her hair and walk away because she has so much self respect.

    This doesn’t mean you cannot give, love show attentive kindness, it just means make him work for it! when he does wrong pull back, don’t nag, don’t try to fix the relationship, be willing to walk away and watch him treat you like a goddess. Make him travel to you, make him prove his worth before you give him all the wonderful gifts you have to bestow and even then make it clear that it all depends on his treatment of you.

    Keep a man on his toes and never let him conquer you 100% it took me many years to learn these lessons but now I am in a secure, happy, mature relationship with open communication and respect. A man will only act up if he can get away with it, so don’t let him.

  175. Please

    On June 11, 2009 at 8:12 am


    We don’t believe you. Why come to a site about pisces men if you are so secure with the pisces men. Normally people that go to sites like these are doing have the same characteristics:

    1) They are new to dating pisces men and want to find out either how to woo them or see if they are the right one.

    2) They are with a pisces men and they are having trouble.

    I have yet to see someone HAPPY with a pisces man and try to search for more info on them. If you were truly happy, why the search?

    Please. You need another PR rep pisces. LOL

  176. Jade your advice

    On June 11, 2009 at 8:14 am


    Your advice in general is good.

  177. Jade

    On June 11, 2009 at 8:26 am


    LOL I am just interested in Astrology, I wasn’t only reading about Pisces. Reading up on a subject doesn’t have to mean I am having problems I am a very studious person in general. Like I said it doesn’t matter to me if you believe what I say or not, I have passed on what I consider a few pearls of wisdom, either acknowledge them or ignore them. Your choice :)

  178. Another Capricorn

    On June 11, 2009 at 9:24 am


    I agree with Jade in the sense that a woman must respect herself above all else. That’s why I cut my Pisces loose. It’s just that this sign is more prone to taking advantage of a woman because as I said above, they need her strength as a ballast and as women, we are hard-wired to nurture. Not all Pisces men are like that. In my experience there are two types: 1) the man who finds his niche in life early on and capitalizes on it; and 2) the man who drifts from one direction to another without achieving much of anything and, yes, relying on his woman. In the latter, it is important NOT to cast pearls before swine. LOL

  179. Virgo

    On June 11, 2009 at 1:35 pm


    I am the author of #122 and #151. None of these women know each other or know the same man the common fact is that we all have been with a Pisces Man. Jade I do hope that your relationship works out, I pray for it because I do know the pain of heartache. One point we all agree on is that when you are loved by a pisces man it is life changing. They are nearly perfect men. This is why these woman are heartbroken, numb and at a lost. It usually happens when everything is going great better than great. My pisces man found me after 25 years it took me two months to talk to him on the phone, four months to say I love you in return and a year before I slept with him. We loved each other for three years. He came to me I never went to him. He texted me, wrote poetry, dedicated songs and professed his love to me numerous and countless times. We made love with the intention to have a baby together. We were after all first loves, childhood sweethearts and soul mates that parted ways not because we had a fight because like all pisces men he drifted into a fantasy world. When he came looking for me I had moved on. 25 years later everything was wonderful, romantic, perfect and not once were we going to take it for granted our second chance. Well I got pregnant just like we discussed after three years of being together and actually he wanted it more than me and you know what happened to my white knight in shinning armor he went back into his fantasy world to live for a while. We didn’t fight and we certainly didn’t even say goodbye. My advice to you is to enjoy it while you can because he will at some point need to take a break. Please at this point don’t feel embarrassed to come back here and ask for help to get through it. As for me I have moved on and if he comes back into my life now he will only be invited in as my child’s father and that is it. Life is not about playing hard to get games it is about telling the people in your life that you love them and knowing that tomorrow they will still be there to say it back. It is just that plain and simple. My friends and family would describe me as successful, determined, intelligent and certainly a very confident woman.

  180. Jade

    On June 11, 2009 at 3:14 pm


    Virgo, thanks for responding to me specifically. I would never claim that things will always be perfect with the Pisces and I, but I truly believe we have a really good shot of this working out, I think all people need space from time to time, especially me actually. I am fairly commitment phobic personally but this man just kept proving himself til I began to believe in him and now that belief doesn’t waver.

    I would like to share something with you, My first and only love (up until then) also returned to my life after significant time apart (14 years) he is an Aquarius, he cheated on me (just a kiss) the first time around and I disappeared, he spent over a decade searching for me as I moved across the planet and changed my name, he finally found me and after 18 months we got back together. It was completley blissful, he wanted marriage, children, he wanted to quit his high flying, highly respected job to move to be with me. It was very much a whirl wind, at the height of it all he vanished and the pain was so unbearable that I did nothing, didn’t call, email nothing…I just let him go (remember that scene in Forrest Gump where Jenny leaves and he just sits there staring in to space?) I felt just like that! it was the injustice more than anything. That somehow we had been brought back together just for him to break my heart all over again. I don’t know how much you know about astrology but we had Saturn opposing Neptune in our Synastry which may be to blame, either that or he had spent so long chasing, searching, longing for us to be once again back together that by the time I truly fell for him and was willing to do anything for him, the illusion was shattered. I know the devastation it causes oh so well. He was the only man I had ever loved until now.

    For over a year I shut myself away, barely even saw friends. I researched astrology and relationships on the net in pretty much every spare minute I got, I decided to get my degree in Psychology and I vowed that I would never waste my time again on any man who was unworthy.

    Now I don’t advocate games, but a woman having her own life/interests and putting herself first. It’s not a game so much as a state of mind, a type of enlightenment that finally overcame me during my solitude. I met the Pisces when I least expected to…I read your other posts and one thing that gives me faith in my current partner is his history (we have many mutual friends, some of which have known him decades) he was married for 8 years (his third relationship) they had one daughter, and are now seperated. He has never been a player, their marriage ended because they simply were not in love. He was outgoing and she was quiet and introverted, he lost all of his passion for music, writing…for life. Then he meets me, this outgoing wild child who is also a nerdy little book worm, who encourages his passions, who demands space from HIM, who knows that she doesn’t need him order to be fulfilled and he is enthralled to say the least. I know he is in love, every look, gesture, action and expression shows me this.

    It’s just so easy to blame the man, or worse…his sun sign when things go wrong (that staement is not aimed at you Virgo) all I’m saying is that sometimes women change, they are one woman when the man meets them and someone else entirely when the honey moon period wears off, they may become predicatble, dependent, less willing to look good physically, and less of the woman he fell in love with. Sure not in every situation but certainly in many, once he leaves she cannot understand what she did that was so wrong, why he no longer loves her.

    The truth is it is far more empowering to keep living for our own passions, friends and ambitions than devote our life to a man. THEN even if it does fall apart, we have so many other things to fall back on.

    Virgo I truly sympathise with you and I hope you find the love and happiness you clearly deserve.

    Jade

  181. that's right #181 !

    On June 11, 2009 at 3:16 pm


    she will be back in here saying the same thing. and we will help her get through it.

  182. Jade

    On June 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm


    Hey your beliefs about your life and what will happen are reflected by the universe, so our fears can become a self fulfilling propesy. Perhaps in some cases a woman is so afraid to lose the man that it manifests in to reality.

    Look you may be right #183 but I am pretty strong minded person and I wont be dettered by naysayers, because not every situation is the same. Saying that I am not naive enough to say ‘nothing will ever go wrong we will be in love forever’ but we are both willing to work at it if we need to and at times we have, we tend to diffuse tension with humour and deep probing talks about our feelings, there is something very wonderful about two water signs together.

    All the same I enjoy a discussion and am grateful to those wo have read and/or commented on my musings.

  183. Virgo

    On June 12, 2009 at 9:24 am


    Jade it is not truly about being right or wrong each story here is about a journey that each individual has taken. As for my opinion, it is based on my individual experience and nothing else. My whole purpose on sharing my experience was to empower women to make decisions for themselves so they will not allow any one to have control over their happiness or self worth. I am not in any way judging your relationship. It is like the idiom forewarned is forearmed (If you know about something before it happens, you will be prepared for it.). I am not saying that you and your boyfriend will break up. All I am saying is that this website will enlighting you about some of the personality quirks that pisces men possess. I didn’t stop living 25 years ago when we first parted, I went on to live a very fulfilling life. My pisces man was the one that introduced me to astrology and to this very sight. He wants to be a good guy and you know what he really down deep inside is a wonderful guy. Unfortunately, he let others define who he was early on and this is a trap he can not free himself from. I pray for him and I love him. With that said, I thank god every day for all my blessings and for all the wonderful people in my life who love me. If I am able to hold someone’s hand even for a moment and help them through the darkest moments of their life it is my way of being thankful for the life I get to live every day.

  184. yep #185

    On June 12, 2009 at 12:22 pm


    Like I said we aren’t hallucinating. We are not the same people. And, we are having the same results. The common denominator isn’t self esteem. The common denominator is the pisces who let the other fish dictate their lives.

    She will be back later.

  185. Jade

    On June 12, 2009 at 1:03 pm


    I find it really sad #186 that you can’t accept that some Pisces men are capable of loving, happy long term relationships. You are virtually willing us to fail which is extremely unenlightened. It has obviously been you to have posted all the negative comments above. I am not taking anything away from what you have been through but that does not dictate that I will not have a happy future with my partner.

    As I said no two situations are the same, and we are both secure and happy together, of course I realise he has quirks, just like I do too and faults, but we know each others and deal with them accordingly, thats what a relationship is all about, we support each other and communicate.

    I have never said you are hallucinating, but this is a small group that have been stung by men who happen to be the same sun sign (I see no thought given here to the rest of each mans birth chart which is a huge over sight imo) women have been getting hurt by men since time began and not all of those men were Pisceans.

    It doesn’t matter. I know what I have, I know my partner very well indeed and whatever the future may hold is fine but I KNOW he will not be reckless with my heart. and no I am not hallucinating either, I am a smart woman and I have shown compassion towards the people here and shared some insights. I deserve the same cpompassion

    Btw what does bitterness achieve? nothing. My heart was shattered in to a milliong pieces by an Aqua yet I still smile when I think of him. I guess you and I just have very different views on life.

  186. Jade

    On June 12, 2009 at 1:08 pm


    Virgo my initial responses were aimed to serve the exact same purpose as yours, to empower women and show them they dont need to be any mans fool. I am saddened that I have received such hostility by others.

    I also agree that LIFE is a journey, we should learn the lessons from each experience and carry them in to the next constantly striving to improve and grow, thats what its all about and exchanging knowledge so that not all lessons need to be learnt painfully.

    I have taken on board everything you have said, however I know (as I said) what I have and who he is and there isn’t a single worry in my head.

  187. To Pisces guy :

    On June 12, 2009 at 9:33 pm


    So u started to have feelings for her when she is gone? I just left my Pisces 4 days ago after 7 mon. relation..I was also crazy about him but then I got tired because I had so much from him.I wrote him an email explaining that I can’t take it any more & I need him in my life but can’t find him. All what I can tell u is try to prove to her that u really love her because I am guessing that she does not believe you any more & she is in my situation..don’t let her gone..there is only one chance for u to fix this !

  188. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On June 14, 2009 at 6:16 pm


    It’s been five weeks now and counting,( well at least until i can move on completely)but, my pisces man never returned…it’s true, they don’t come back really, at least not this one. like i mentioned not even when there was a connection and great relationship. again, i wish i knew what happened. how can someone just go away like that…

  189. #191

    On June 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm


    Okay..so I knew that fish boy about 6 monthes ago..ofcourse my story is so similar to everybody\’s which is really strange & funny at the same time. I had the same issues with him just like all of you ladies but then I figured out that I could not take it any more, so I left him..I told him that I do love him but I am tired of waiting for someone who is looking for something that might never exist & the best way to end the story between us is leaving him to look for whatever he is trying to find. I walked away when he never expected that I would do that..on that same day he was talking about missing me..etc and guess what ? It has been a week now I have never heard back from him which I was expecting & I guess I know why I won\’t..If he came back he will have to do a commitment which he does not want to…..That\’s who they are…it is only if they want to settle down they will do anything beyond the expectations..otherwise do not try because you will waste your time. You all know that they do not know what they want. He use to say about himself that he is a fish swimming after his tail !!! So true.

  190. Another Virgo

    On June 15, 2009 at 9:56 pm


    A few months ago I was dumped by a Leo. Sounds exactly like the Pisces men you ladies are describing. Wooed me, wowed me, then once I was in love with him he got cold and distant…quit calling, emailing, etc. etc. Took me over a month to get over my pity party. Not only did I get over it, I rediscovered my inner Goddess who had been in hiding for years and I got my groove back.

    One of the three or four new men who are now clamoring for attention is a Pisces so I thought I’d read up a bit. I did date one Pisces 10-12 years ago with the same results. Love me, then swim away. We dated about 6 months before he swam off…but then about 2 years later he was back apologizing profusely and wanting to get married. Ha! We went out on a few dates, but I had gotten over him after that much time passed and we’re just friends now. He calls whenever he’s swum back to town and we can have a few drinks and remember WHY we’re “just friends”. He’s really not a bad guy…just confused…and because of the way he runs, not “dateable”.

    A few ladies have made comments on regaining your PERSONAL POWER AS A WOMAN. It’s so true. Get over the pity party, put on a nice dress and heels, get a new hairdo and a little makeover. Get out of the house or join a club that interests you. The best revenge is looking great, feeling great, and starting a new hobby or activity. Seriously men start coming out of the woodwork. Makes it much easier to forget the one who was not giving you the attention you deserve in your life.

    Even the Leo guy who treated me the same way as many of these Pisces have treated you ladies, has started showing up places where he knows I’ll be. I know he doesn’t want me back, but do think he might have some regrets since there are now different men buzzing about. Why else would he show up at “my” favorite places? I don’t think he expected me to get over him that quickly. LOL

    There are plenty of fish in the sea…and rams and goats and bulls etc. Take it slow, find a new flirtation (or a few), and you’ll find it easy to let your little fishies swim wherever they wish.

  191. Another Virgo

    On June 15, 2009 at 9:57 pm


    A few months ago I was dumped by a Leo. Sounds exactly like the Pisces men you ladies are describing. Wooed me, wowed me, then once I was in love with him he got cold and distant…quit calling, emailing, etc. etc. Took me over a month to get over my pity party. Not only did I get over it, I rediscovered my inner Goddess who had been in hiding for years and I got my groove back.

    One of the three or four new men who are now clamoring for attention is a Pisces so I thought I’d read up a bit. I did date one Pisces 10-12 years ago with the same results. Love me, then swim away. We dated about 6 months before he swam off…but then about 2 years later he was back apologizing profusely and wanting to get married. Ha! We went out on a few dates, but I had gotten over him after that much time passed and we’re just friends now. He calls whenever he’s swum back to town and we can have a few drinks and remember WHY we’re “just friends”. He’s really not a bad guy…just confused…and because of the way he runs, not “dateable”.

    A few ladies have made comments on regaining your PERSONAL POWER AS A WOMAN. It’s so true. Get over the pity party, put on a nice dress and heels, get a new hairdo and a little makeover. Get out of the house or join a club that interests you. The best revenge is looking great, feeling great, and starting a new hobby or activity. Seriously men start coming out of the woodwork. Makes it much easier to forget the one who was not giving you the attention you deserve in your life.

    Even the Leo guy who treated me the same way as many of these Pisces have treated you ladies, has started showing up places where he knows I’ll be. I know he doesn’t want me back, but do think he might have some regrets since there are now different men buzzing about. Why else would he show up at “my” favorite places? I don’t think he expected me to get over him that quickly. LOL

    There are plenty of fish in the sea…and rams and goats and bulls etc. Take it slow, find a new flirtation (or a few), and you’ll find it easy to let your little fishies swim wherever they wish.

  192. IVY

    On June 17, 2009 at 12:21 am


    I wish every SISTER HERE PEACE. Relationships are tough. Relationships with SOME pisces men can be tougher. It\’s a real mental struggle to release, and move on. As I am writing, the left side of my back is hurting because I still have that MAN ON MY MIND.

    I haven\’t dated the man in a 1,000 years. But unfortunately, I ALLOWED the man to emotionally step back into my heart. For me all it took was a conversation about marriage, then I lost my mind. I started CAUTIOUSLY thinking \”OMG HE\’S BACK AFTER TEN YEARS, MAYBE THIS IT\”. NOOOOOT!!!! I haven\’t heard from him in two months. The last thing he said in my CAPRICORN GUIDED COMMUNICATION was \”THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME\”. WHAAAAATTTT!!!!!!

    In a weird kind of way, that statement gave me PEACE. Instantly I was no longer driven to THROW HIM ACROSS MY BACK, AND BRING HIM HOME NOW. I felt like my efforts had paid off, and the P MAN was indirectly telling me I KNOW I HAVEN\’T DONE MY PART (HE HAS A 24/7 SPORTS GIG. I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. I AM A KEEP IT REAL WOMAN), BUT THANKS FOR STICKING BY ME, THANKS FOR NOT BADGERING ME (I have a tendency to be verbally aggressive with men who are slow to communicate. This go round I told myself, it\’s time to be a BIG GIRL. Close your mouth, suck it up, and JOURNAL ABOUT THE INCONSISTENCIES. Don\’t take it to him. Verbal aggression gets you nowhere with a MAN. It must be a Capricorn issue.), AND THANKS FOR STILL BEING THERE.

    OMG, as I\’m writing I just got a REVELATION. DELAY IS NOT ALWAYS DENIAL. DELAY CAN SOMETIMES BE NOT NOW. RIGHT??? LOL

    About six months ago we had a discussion about his COMMUNICATION DEFICIENCIES. He made a very powerful statement about his past relationships. He said his marriage, and his three other relationships including ours probably ended because of his COMMUNICATION ISSUES. I was like WOW! That’s growth. I am pretty sure his EX-WIFE WOULD BE SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT.

    I can\’t believe ten years later I STILL have a thing for this man. Oh well, we\’ll see what happens.

    P.S Thank God we\’re in different states. But when I think about it, if we were in the same state I believe we would be on our way to the chapel. At 54, he\’s uncomfortable with long distance relationships. He is convinced his last LDR ended because of the distance. He said \”I wish you were here everyday\”. My heart melted, but then I was like DON’T GET SUCKED IN.

    P.S (2) I need to stop being MUSHY and KEEP IT REAL. The DREAMING KEEPS YOU BOUND, AND EMOTIONALLY UNHEALTHY. UNTIL YOU GET THE RING, KEEP TWO EYES OPEN AT NIGHT.

    P.S (3) I LOVE ALL OF MY SISTERS ON THIS SITE. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AN ABSOLUTE BLESSING. OUR COMMUNICATION IS AWESOME. WE SHOULD ALL BE ON OPRAH TALKING ABOUT HOW WELL WE COMMUNICATE.

  193. Holly

    On June 17, 2009 at 9:01 pm


    Hi there, to all the unfortunate women who have dated Pisces and came out badly. I am a cancer woman getting out of an 18 month relationship with a pisces. It has been pretty much the same as all the other posts, where he is here, n there and afraid of comittment ie. marriage, engagement. I never bought these subjects up but he would say things jokingly about us getting married.. anyhew I thought we were getting along fine. the first 6 months were great and it got better. But I noticed the more I gave to him, time, love, affection, calls etc., he drifted away. We were always playing silly games and both of us could be so sulky, not talk for hours sometimes days., but anyhow last week he said to me ” I don’t see us being married, I don’t want to waste your time” and ” I feel I’m too young and i want to date a few more girl’s before I choose the woman to spend my life with ” he’s (25) so I said Ok then I can’t change your mind, I’ll just accept it, he then say’s he wants to still hang out and not break up ..? I am confused .So he doesn’t want to marry me, doesn’t want to break up and still texts me every day and he came over to see my doggie the other day. And he’ll text what did u do last night, to know where i am ..?
    since last week he has not brought up anything about that conversation, break up or stay together., he just smiles and stares at me,. so I smile and stare back., it’s weird

    I mean i was shocked as we had been doing alright besides the occasional little sulking match. We fell very hard for eachother and are total romantics.,

    But I did do some thing’s wrong he found out I had kissed another guy, and it has never been the same since, it happened 8 mo in relationship. And he has been a real great guy when it came to thing’s like when my dog was injured (fatally) he loaned me the money to help him stay alive. And he has come through when I needed it, but I think maybe the drama of the dog, and me, somehow got to him. I have convinced myself, i should leave him and find happiness elsewhere.,
    What do i do with him now .,?

  194. IVY

    On June 17, 2009 at 10:43 pm


    Holly move on. Don’t let him have HIS CAKE. You are better than that. Let him go.

    P.S If you guys were intimate, CUT IT OFF NOWWWWWWW. Also, don’t let him occupy your time. He has made it very clear that he does not want to see you exclusively.

    Lastly, don’t respond to his text or calls. Maybe at a later stage you guys can be friends. Right now…..SEND HIM HOOOOME.

  195. holly

    On June 18, 2009 at 6:45 pm


    thank u ivy,
    appreciated yes i think thats the best to do. I won’t want to be the one to bring it up or text him first, when he contacts me again I will tell him. I am actually feeling better and happier, as that was just a web of sorrow. So each day as it comes really. I found this sight sooo helpful and strengthening for me.

  196. LEAVE HIM.

    On June 19, 2009 at 10:30 pm


    dont let him into your mind.

  197. :..Leo Lioness..::

    On June 21, 2009 at 2:41 pm


    Holly…once you lost his trust, that was it. Pisces men find it very hard to forgive once cheated on.

  198. Beauty Queen

    On June 22, 2009 at 8:46 pm


    I just broke up with my Pisces. I sent him 8 text messages pouring my heart out to him and telling him how he hurt me despite everything I have done for him. He was very selfish and used everything in me he could get. I loved him very much because he gave me what I was missing in my life. It is so hard to say “Goodbye” and may be I will never see him again or talk to him. I hope he learns from his experience with a Cancer woman who I believe is very compatible with Pisces and could have became a beautiful thing together. I think Leo Lioness is right!! I remember everything was rosy back in December until one day he kept ignoring my calls all morning so I got very upset and when we met for dinner that night, went to a place he always dreams to go to with a special person, I was boiling that i gave him such hard times and would not eat that he was so angry at me. Then the next day I wanted to meet one of my old times friends and my Pisces said to meet with him over coffee at the hotel and not go out with him. I did not listen and went out for Coffee and he was furious when he found out 2 days later and I did not tell him right away because I was afraid I would loose him. Well I think these 2 incidents did it for him. He changed from that day on and started ignoring my calls from time to time and I would beg him to talk to me because I thought he was over them. i guess I was wrong!! Well here we are 7 months later!!
    He gets his wishes and I am walking hurt out of his life :( (((

  199. Beauty Queen

    On June 24, 2009 at 11:37 am


    In addition, he tried calling me 2 times yesterday and I ma sure he probably wanted to give me a piece of mind on all my text messages but I ignored his calls. I don’t know if he will call again. I guess I was too hurt at the time to face him or talk to him. Should I call him and find out what he wanted?

  200. Still Strong

    On June 24, 2009 at 4:45 pm


    #87 Leo::Lioness is your Pisces involved in Sports?

  201. to Beauty Queen

    On June 24, 2009 at 8:47 pm


    No..don’t call him back..I know you would love to do that & you can’t help yourself..but don’t. Leave him this way for a while..maybe he figures out that he is in love…who knows! Sometimes good byes are another chance :)

  202. to Beauty Queen

    On June 25, 2009 at 10:11 am


    I agree with #203… DON’T CALL HIM BACK. He probably will come back but when he does, do you really want to live your life trying to please someone else and walking on eggshells. We all deserve to be ourselves at all times and if your heart is in the right place, there is no reason for you to second guess yourself or fear him getting angry or leaving you. Put yourself first and watch how many men start putting you first. Then you will be in control, which is the ultimate attraction for a man. BTDT :)

  203. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On June 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm


    its been five weeks and i texted my ex fishy. he texted back and was really nice to me. then i ask him if we can get together one day and ask if he is with anyone and he doesnt text me back till the next morning and says hes not with anyone. so i text and ask him AGAIN can we make plans for lunch or something and he never texted me back again. I don’t get it.

  204. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On June 27, 2009 at 10:46 pm


    well tonight he texted back..why is he so strange, he texts back like two days later?? whatever..i know he is not the kind of man to be in a serious relationship with or one to trust. but it became like a challenge to me somehow and i texted him back..he would make a perfect pet…not husband material but definately boy toy material. ladies, pisces men are the casanovas of the zodiac. don juan tenorio-pisces. casanove himself-pisces….keep you guards up.

  205. PISCESMAN

    On June 28, 2009 at 4:46 am


    hi everyone! very good thread. interesting read. i agree with and have experienced A LOT of the ways you’re all describing Pisces men, and i cant help but to feel for every one of you. it does makes me smile though, seeing that despite the almost overwhelming negative feelings towards us, reading this i can feel an even stronger will to UNDERSTAND us. you that have the ability to guide us dreamers, are true lovers. though, that is not to say that all Pisces are true lovers. some of us get caught up in dreams, and just watch opportunities roll right past. being ‘caught up in something’ is very Piscean. often we will lie to ourselves to keep the dreams going, and when you’re lying to yourself it carries through to your relationships with everyone around you. it is also very piscean to step back and re-analyze situations and outcomes.. which a lot of the time can be why we come swimming back.

    the whole manipulation thing is basically true for the most part i believe. I’m a 21 year old Pisces male and i know I’ve recognized and used that ability before. i wouldn’t go so far as to call us ‘devious’ though. my feelings of empathy prevent me from exploiting that ability, among other things. i think if you can find a Pisces man who has a firm hold on his tendencies for indecisiveness and lofty fantasy and manipulation, you’ve got a good catch. i think we need someone to keep us grounded, while helping us learn to keep ourselves grounded, but also knows when to let us roam.

    SO i am curious. i read almost all the posts above. I’m young, I’ve got a lot of relationships ahead of me. what kind of advice/wisdom do you all have to bestow upon a young Pisces like myself? am i destined to be a heart breaker? what kind of advice would you give me in order to help me avoid the bad situations your Pisces men have led you into?

  206. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On June 28, 2009 at 10:59 pm


    TO Piscesman: The best advice i can give you is to stop being so passive, pisces seem to dig their heels in and not budge. Don’t let a great woman pass you by. call her and let her know how you feel, don’t wait for her to chase you. all you have to do is be upfront and open.

  207. IVY

    On June 28, 2009 at 11:42 pm


    Young P, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE TRUTHFUL, HONEST, AND CONFIDENT WHEN EXPRESSING YOUR THOUGHTS.

    Some Pisces men have a tendency to disappear, be evasive, and check out for periods of time due to their POOR COMMUNICATION SKILLS.

    If you are no longer interested in your partner…..TALK TO HER. Young man whatever you do, DO NOT RUN FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO SHARE WHAT’S IN YOUR HEART. Some Pisces men have a tendency to clam up, run, and LEAVE THEIR PARTNERS LOST AND CONDUSED.

    P.S I have one last thought. BE A MAN OF YOUR WORD. If you say you are going to do something DO IT.

  208. Pisces_1

    On June 29, 2009 at 11:39 am


    First of all I want to say that I found this site by pure coincidence. I am somewhat surprised to see that the Pisces male is somewhat popular within the astrological world.As a Pisces male myself I can understand all the complicated relationships females have with Pisces. Much throughout my life I have been a loner and would rather live in my own world within my own set of rules.I didn’t start dating until I was 25 not because of confidence in talking to a female but because I didn’t want to break a girl’s heart. Then a few months after I turned 25 I met a Taurus girl.At first I thought she was a complete snob due to her talkative nature but as time went by I became extremely attracted to this girl.I can honestly say that this girl taught me so much about life. She knew exactly when to call me and being a Pisces I hate being called 10 times a day by one person. I knew exactly when she wanted me to be affectionate. Every Friday I would send a bouquet of flowers to her apartment so that she didn’t forget that I loved her.Unfortunately life took her away from me in the most cruel way and left a huge hole in my heart. Shortly after that I went into depression mode and only went outside for work and decided to hide in my apartment for a year!!!I couldn’t talk to any females because they brought me back memories of her and my health became endangered.It wasn’t until one night when I decided to take a long walk and reevaluate who I was as a person that I came back to who I was before and decided to start living again. I surrounded myself by positive people full of life (I’m talking to you Capricorn’s and Taurus). These friends made me appreciate life and thanks to them I am still alive and kickin’.

  209. Pisces_1

    On June 29, 2009 at 12:01 pm


    PISCESMAN,I think It’s better If you confess your feelings to this girl.Don’t live with the doubt. She will probably understand since she is a Cancer and according to astrology Pisces and Cancer are soul mates.If she decides to stay with your friend then look for other girls. It’s time for Pisces to stop being compassionate about others. I know I might sound like an a-hole right now but sometimes other people tend to take advantage of us.I know it’s hard since I once fell in love with a prohibited woman.

  210. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On June 29, 2009 at 7:24 pm


    You might not be missing out on such a mature or loyal girl here. Because if she was loyal she would not be checking you out. her rising sign must be different. and another thing there are limits, and you would be crossing one here. if you are truly his friend then find someone else, i’m sure you won’t die because of this girl not being available. 18? no, she’s not mature enough. she’s still a teen, playing the field even when she’s already in a relationship. the first time a woman shows you who she really is, believe her. nice girl or not, her credentials are in question, don’t ignore that.

  211. IVY

    On June 29, 2009 at 7:50 pm


    #213, I am also a Capricorn. Our two comments are somewhat similar.

    WISE WOMEN THINK ALIKE.

    P.S But if we are soooo WISE, WHY DO WE TEMPORARILY GIVE UP A SMALL PORTION OF OUR POWER TO PISCES MEN?

    Also, I would like for someone to explain WHY DO PISCES MEN RUN WHEN YOU DEMAND, REQUEST, ASK, BEG, OR PLEAD FOR ANSWERS.
    WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

  212. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 1, 2009 at 1:38 pm


    After nearly two months. my fishy and i have reconciled, he started texting me back repeatedly..i got 40 texts from him monday. and last night we got together, we had dinner, we talked and laugheda alot..and he was all over me! He just wouldn’t let me go, yes, it was an amazing and long night.lol at the same time i just don’t know what to think/???? is this a good or bad thing??????

  213. whatever

    On July 1, 2009 at 2:35 pm


    Capricorn woman,

    What is your story with this guy? You did not say abou the details, how long have you known him and don’t you think is weird he disappeared for a month? Depending on the length of history you had with him prior to his disappearance perhaps we can give you some advice.

  214. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 1, 2009 at 2:49 pm


    to whatever…above you will find more posts concerning my story with this pisces man.

  215. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 1, 2009 at 7:21 pm


    I don’t know if it helps that my rising sign is in libra. and my moon is in cancer…but, i just hope that him being back in my life actually means something…IVY what do you think about my above post #217?? you’re great with this! he also always insists that i stay the night, but i can’t so i go home. well, hes always treated me good,and said that he never contaced me because he was angry that i told him goodbye, and he said that he never erased my number and did miss me during our seperation, but he also says he wants to just take things slow, he gets jealous so it confuses me when he says its ok with him if i date other men!?

  216. Moonmaid

    On July 1, 2009 at 7:32 pm


    I emailed my pisces about a month ago & broke up with him, I just told him that I do not understand his feelings towards me & that he is searching for something that might never exist, I also told him that our story should end since he is not letting me into his world nor wanting to come to my world. I said also that I need to forget him because I do not want to get more attached to him….he did not even respond to the email, should he ?? Just to give a brief about my story I met him a about 9 months ago, he was out of an 8 years relation & I was just divorced after a 13 years marraige…our contact was only through text messages almost no calls, he moved to another state in Jan after I met him by 3 months. Mind wise i thought that we were not going anywhere & I told him that…but I miss him very much..I am the same as all of you there is a weird chemistry between us..I am a cancer..I have never felt or experienced that similarities between me & him with anyone before..that is the most thing that makes my heart ache. Any advice ?? I don\’t want to ask about how was he able to walk away without even a word ? I know that I was the one who broke up but ?? Thanks in advance for your comments !

  217. Moonmaid

    On July 1, 2009 at 7:49 pm


    By the way in my email I was trying my best not to hurt him because I know how much he is senstive..I was more explaining about myself & that me & him are not on the same page feelings wise..I even told him that it is very humilating for my feelings that I can only express them through text messages or emails because we can’t talk over the phone..& ended up my email by saying that that I will never forget him !

  218. nameless

    On July 1, 2009 at 8:13 pm


    if you tell a pisces man that you want things to end, he is extremely sensitive and in his own mind he believes that he cant make you be with him. they are severly PASSIVE. he is not going to email you back or try to contact you. belive me if you want him you better go get him..period.

  219. Moonmaid

    On July 1, 2009 at 9:10 pm


    What if I called or texted him & he did not respond ? That would be very embarrasing !!

  220. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 2, 2009 at 9:18 am


    he will respond. slowly at first, like you may ask him a question about seeing him to talk and he may take a whole day to text you back. that’s what happened to me, then one saturday evening around 11:45 pm- he answered me back saying he wanted to see me. after that on monday i texted him again saying i was throwing myself out there to see him and would he like to get together, and i called him a meany..that set off a chain of 40 great texts from him lol…see my above posts #217…reach out to him. and in the end if he really cares about you or misses you, he will come around.

  221. whatever

    On July 2, 2009 at 9:56 am


    capricorn woman,

    I think is odd how he just came back to you after two months and wouldn’t let go. Sounds like he is greiving from a breakup to me. I went back and read your first post. You said you dated this guy but did not give a length of time. You might be confused because from that post it says that you felt a connection with just the kissing but you did not mention you had an actual physical/emotional connection with him. If you didn’t before he may be using you as a distraction from whatever problem is concerning him.

  222. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 2, 2009 at 2:32 pm


    TO. whatever, yes, we did have an emotional and physical relationship, we actually dated for 3 months and i met his friends and he came to my son’s bday party and met my family. i would see him every other day at his request. i broke up with him because he became a bit distant and that is how we never spoke again. what do u mean he is greiving our break up?

  223. Pisces Guy

    On July 3, 2009 at 6:16 am


    I’ve read most comments here.
    I understand many of you have had not-so-pretty experiences with Pisces.

    Most of you say they like to play games. I agree to that. But only to the positive side of it.

    Because Pisces need to get their imagination stimulated, and are easily bored by ordinary, trivial events.
    There’s something I want to tell that you may not be allowed to know: the greatest fear of a Pisces guy is not poverty, not losing the looks, but rather being tagged as uninteresting, boring or ordinary and losing their girl because of that.
    That’s why they want to turn their relationships extra-ordinary by adding some condiments, trying to make it, literally, out of this world.
    They may look afraid of commitment because of that, as well. Because, deep down, they believe a firmly grounded relationship or a marriage would make it rather… average, just like everyone else’s.
    If you understand that and want to play along, and can show him how a committed relationship is more fun than just dating, then it can be a real fairytale

    Here’s the trick though: if they are immature, then when they see it’s not exactly like in the movies, they will say to themselves it was not meant to be anyways, and they will start to self-sabotage it instead of building on it.

    But that’s the where the idealistic side of pisces stands: their inability to believe in only this world, the refusal to believe that we cannot be better people.

    Now, if you’ve been together for a year or two already and after a small argument he fails to call you back for a week, that sounds a little immature to me, regardless of the sign. You have the right to pick a grown-up guy instead of fixing other one’s own emotional web. But you know you’ll miss that childish side in him.

    I would also like to point out that many of the girls and women are confused by a pisces, because they don’t expect a guy to have such complex feelings, to be able to understand a woman’s soul so deeply and be able to think like one… a guy rather different from the general image of men you’ve been thought by magazines and TV.

    Here’s the thing: if your guy is able see his less strong sides and is trying to get them mended, or at least not sweat them, then that’s a man with a healthy personality.
    If he knows he should be less passive, more open with his feelings, charming without being manipulative, more assertive without going over-the-top, more direct in essential matters, then this may be your man.

    But… wouldn’t that make him almost perfect?
    And why would he not expect the same from you?

  224. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 3, 2009 at 7:55 pm


    you sound as confusing as all othere pisces…lol.

  225. Moonmaid

    On July 3, 2009 at 8:40 pm


    So, shall I go ahead and txt him Hi or do what now ?? I am sure he will say that am crazy :)

  226. beauty queen

    On July 4, 2009 at 12:55 am


    To Pisces Man,

    Thank you for sharing some of pisces man personality traits and giving us some insights on them. What else can you tell us to help us? For example, why do pisces say we care about you yet never say “love you”. What about how they ignore the calls when they asks us to call them? Why they give us attention right when they know they will lose us? When they do not express their feelings and are so secretive? Do they hold grudges? Please tell us how to win them and keep him if we love them. Should we not show too much care? Thank u.

  227. beauty queen

    On July 4, 2009 at 12:57 am


    Post # 231 is to Pisces Guy!!

  228. Pisces Guy

    On July 4, 2009 at 7:12 am


    To CAPRICORN WOMAN

    Oh c’mon, I was trying my best to sound coherent. :P

    To Beauty Queen,

    I’ve read your comments around here.
    A common rule of dating regardless of the sign says that the less available you are (but still looking interested), the more the other one will cherish the time spent with you.

    Yet, in a long distance relationship, these rules don’t really apply, because the lack of direct contact has to be compensated for in some way or another.
    You would think more talking on the phone would do the trick. That should work in most cases, and that’s what you have been trying to do. But would that work with your pisces? Wouldn’t he feel overhelmed? And is he still interested enough to keep it going at the same level as it was in the beginning? Can he handle a long distance relationship?

    Pisces needs to communicate more than verbally. Actually, they prefer their actions speak instead of their words. They find it hard to say “I love you” because they know anyone can say over the phone that without really meaning it. And really, especially in a long distance relationship, it takes time for anyone to make a clear image of the feelings they hold for another person.

    But I know long distance relationships are not easy, especially if you’ve just met someone. It takes patience, perseverance, and more than anything else, commitment. I know it because I’ve been there, I was involved with a girl living in another country.

    But if he asks you to call him and then ignores the calls, then that to me is a pretty clear sign that he is losing interest.

    The first sign was when he told you that he doesn’t know what the future holds and wouldn’t want to hurt you. What he meant was that he isn’t very sure he will be able to keep a long distance relationship and wouldn’t want to get too involved. It was the first step backing away.

    We ask ourselves now, why did this happen? Why did he begin to drift away?

    Anyone can tell you that a long distance relationship is one of the hardest tests to the couple involved.

    Firstly, what you two should have done was schedule regular trips to see each other, and set together a clear image of where the relationship was heading. These are sensitive areas, I know, but they are best tackled from the very beginning in a long distance relationship.

    Everything looked nice in the beginning and things went well for a while. But he soon found out that the relationship isn’t a movie and has no script and felt you two were just touring. He has no future step to look forward to, and, passive as he is, stays low. Therefore, the relationship stalls.

    In spite of that, he will give attention when he feels he will lose you because that’s how the system of value works in everything. You know the saying “You don’t know what you have until it’s gone”. He doesn’t want to get too involved, but he may not want to really let go because he still somewhere believes this MIGHT sometime, somehow be a great relationship. Still, he’s not doing much towards it because he doesn’t see the next step of the relationship.

    You’ve already gone through a very sensitive point, in my opinion, that is, texting him that you’ve broken up. You can only try to fix the holes in this relationship from now on, but the cards have already been thrown and those words will stay written in the history book of your relationship.

    I believe that in his mind, things are starting to fall apart, but he avoids telling you so directly because he still wants to protect your heart in some way. That’s why he avoids you, but tries to signal you that things are not the same.
    I think he has just been trying to get you to a “soft landing” breakup. I think he cares about you, but he cannot find the resources to keep the relationship going. At least not separated like this (remember – pisces are very sensorial – he may find it awkward to keep a relationship just by talking).

    My opinion is that his interest level has already gone pretty low and after all you’ve been through and since you are in two different countries, I’m not sure how easy would be to keep this alive.

    If he doesn’t make the effort to work a bit for this relationship, then maybe that is a sign that he just doesn’t really want to go with it beyond a certain point if he doesn’t know or isn’t comfortable with where you two are heading.

    I think though that he’s simply not really prepared to this kind of relationship system without having a good solid ground to start from (meaning more than just the holidays together).

    You need only ONE good man to keep in life. It may not be my business, and I don’t like to give advice in anyone’s personal life, but it sounds to me that this may not be going anywhere if the same level of commitment is not shared by both you and him.

  229. Moonmaid

    On July 4, 2009 at 12:50 pm


    To Pisces Guy,

    I think u r totally right in all what u said..and that is why I broke up with my Pisces even though the night before telling him so he was still saying he misses me & can’t wait to see me but I just felt that it is all talking & he is not really doing anything positive for me (He lives in another state by the way). I always felt that he is passive & not trying to share my life with me..kinds like he wants to just have fun..maybe because he had a bad experience with his ex and as he used to tell me “I wasted 8 years of my life in pain” but how about me? I deserve someone to share my life with me too, u know what I mean? That’s why he did not even comment on my broke up email..what would he say? My broke up email was the last chance I gave him to do something for us but it looked like he is not that much into me..which I also mentioned to him. All what you said made me feel that what I did was the right thing..too hard to keep a relation when one side is the only one who is working on it as u said !

  230. Pisces Guy

    On July 4, 2009 at 4:59 pm


    What can I say, a long distance relationship is the trial by fire for most couples. If they don’t have a strong foundation (meaning a good chunk of time spent together beforehand), it can easily come to a halt and fall apart.

    Maybe he just didn’t realize the involvement a long distance relationship requires. Whether we like it or not, it takes a bit of routine, scheduling, planning and some willingness to replace the lack of direct affection with something else; and here’s where a pisces begins to draw back, fearing it might turn into something dull in the first place, and secondly, because all that may sound like a big step to him, like preparation for an engagement.

    Just a little observation, if I may – for what it’s worth, I believe a breakup call instead of emailing or texting may be a more appropriate and elegant approach in these situations. It gives the other the chance to have their say on the spot. My opinion.
    All the best.

  231. Moonmaid

    On July 4, 2009 at 11:59 pm


    You are right but that if he allows it..The biggest issue between us was that I liked to interact directly with a person & I am really not a fan of the texts & the emails to a point but he was totaly the opposite..he just texts which is something I have no idea why he was doing. As a woman I find it very hard to express my feelings all the time through txt msgs..I just feel that I am locked in a cage..but who would listen or understand !!! I came to a point that I stopped calling him..he has the ability to txt back & forth for hours but never call as if calling me was something scary for him ! Or even responding to my emails…he never did..even if it was an email expressing my love to him. It was only txt messages..nothing else. I can remember the only times that we used to talk on the phone was just on our way to see eachother..that’s about it..I even thought that he used to do that because he might get excited whenever he calls so he avoids it because he does not want to get very emotionaly attached to me, but looks like I was just silly :)

  232. Pisces Guy

    On July 5, 2009 at 8:13 am


    Not a call in a few months from him, not responding to emails… sounds like he was avoiding you, instead of trying to get closer.
    I wonder how long did he think things could go on like that?

    Even if he, presumably, was more reserved, that still doesn’t give him a reason to keep off the phone.
    If he was more seriously interested, I think he should have shown that more clearly.

    After all, you had been together for a few months already. If he was really interested, he should have picked up the phone and call you. If he wasn’t really interested, then he should have made that clearer, not play with the situation.
    Either case, his actions didn’t show much maturity.
    My opinion.

  233. Moonmaid

    On July 5, 2009 at 8:53 am


    Exactly..that’s why I told him that our story should end since he does not want to come to my world nor invite me to his world & that I am tired of waiting for him..I made it clear that I need a man to share my life with me, to grow old with. And as the saying say “Since we can’t promise tomorrow or bring back yesterday” I might just hope that my path & his could cross again & we could see each other face to face without a date ! I tried my best to explain myself & not to hurt him as much as I could but as usual…..no respond (zero,none) :)

  234. little Cappy

    On July 5, 2009 at 6:26 pm


    only txt msgs, never phone calls…oh so familiar thing with Pisces!!
    I know my (ex) P 10 years now, met him when we were 17, and last time we saw each other, well.. it was two years ago; But since the beginning of 2009, after all these years he texts me- almost every day. I usually ignore him, so probably he asks himself ‘what he did wrong’, or something like that…I think I’d be very afraid if I see him calling me :) )
    I completely understand what Pisces Guy said.But I dunno what does my ex want from me..
    I have couple of possible answers – he wants to have fun only; according to context of his msgs, he wants cyber sex haha and my answers are pretty brave..it’s easy to be bold through msgs :) )So I text in a direct and careless way because I feel that; and it is the thing that he likes, it seems!
    Anyway, just to mention – we had an affair three years ago, and after that he apsolutely ignored me, because “he didnt want to break my heart” haha souds familiar? :)

    Regarding all that, I think that he wants to reach the stage where he can be completely -free- (with me or anybody else), without just being jugded ,blamed for what he really is..he just wants to be confortable or relaxed with one, and to be accepted! It couldn’t be just sex, he has girlfriend….
    I think that if Pisces is accepted in the way above mentioned, and if you ‘forgive’ them all their mistakes, they will never run away from you..They need strong personalities beside.

    Pisces Guy and other ppl – am I wrong with my simple interpretation of his behavior?
    p.s. Still, I think that I would never fully understand Pisces, they are too illogical for my taste :) ) I was patient for so long, but I’ve lost my interest…

  235. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 6, 2009 at 12:50 am


    my pisces went back to his old confusing ways. now, he says that he is not ready to make a commitment to anyone because he is not happy and therefore can not make me happy. he said i was really a great woman but that he just was not ready to be in a relationship with anyone. he would much rather spend his time on myspace talking to these hideous skanks really, im not lieing. i don’t know what happend once again, but i told him this “If you don’t want me in your life then that’s your choice. I won’t lie my heart feels heavy, but i know that i cant change how you feel or what you want.” at first he was so angry and aggressive, a side of him that i had never seen and didnt like. I realized what a loser he really is to play with others emotions and then turn around offend & say hes a man?!! I’m done, i don’t care if he is a pisces or not, he fell from the pedestal i had him on. I also told him “Thank you for changing the my perspective on everything we shared. You just gave me the closure i needed in order to let someone else in.” Hes so twisted & i can now move on in peace knowing that what this man wanted wasn’t love. good luck to you all*

  236. whatever

    On July 6, 2009 at 9:09 am


    Capricorn woman,

    I tried telling you. He just wanted to have sex with you. You were involved 3 months with him but he was never involved with you. He was only killing time with you. Honestly I think you should be his friend. If you really care about him kill him with kindness. Not only will he appreciate more but at the same time you will get to see that he is not that bad, only confused but not bad. He doesn’t mean to hurt you, he just need someone to be there for him but he doesn’t know how to socialize only knows to look for nurture and i think sex is his outlet. Do you live in Va?

  237. Virgo

    On July 6, 2009 at 9:46 am


    I just want to ask is any of your pisces named John. I swear between the texting and all the other stories it does seem we are talking about the same guy.

  238. whatever

    On July 6, 2009 at 10:10 am


    I really think we should start putting their name and locations. lol My guy name is not john but he lives in MD.

  239. Virgo

    On July 6, 2009 at 10:42 am


    Thanks for the response. Well that is one and about 20 more to go. lol I have to say thanks to the pisces guy for his insight. It was very kind of you and informative.

  240. Upasana

    On July 6, 2009 at 12:14 pm


    Thanks so much for sharing your ideas with us. This is really very informative.And now I really feel like marrying a Pisces Man…We should make friends like pisces….Well I personally feel all star sign are unique & compactable. But since I am a Scorpio now I have a urge to know a Pisces Man more..
    Keep Smiling…Love you all.
    Upasana

  241. Pisces Guy

    On July 6, 2009 at 5:30 pm


    - To little Cappy

    I think you got that right. Pisces urge to connect with someone who will not judge them for their personality, because they try their best not to make any judgemental comments on anyone for who they are (but still condemning an act if they feel it made injustice to someone else).

    - To CAPRICORN WOMAN

    Oh my… so sleek, yet so bitter.
    I believe his issue is serious lack of self confidence. That’s why he prefers to create relationships from behind the keyboard. That’s why he said he can’t make you happy. I think he was expecting you to show care, understanding and pamper him a bit. But you showed him the door. I think that’s why he got so mad, because he may have felt you had been too harsh.

    I don’t know his background or yours, but if you felt he preferred to live in a virtual world more than building on your relationship and win affection by playing the victim all the time, maybe a bit of call to reality was the right choice.

    - To Virgo
    It’s my pleasure to try and clear some of the Pisces fog for you all. They say Pisces is the most misunderstood of the signs (yes, I know, a Scorpio will beg to differ :) .

  242. Beauty Queen

    On July 6, 2009 at 8:21 pm


    To Pisces Guy,

    I like others really appreciate your insight…you have no idea how frustrating trying to figure my guy out has been. One day he is on magic carpet with me and the next day he is ignoring my calls. I figured that his way of ending a conversation is just by simply saying “Call me back in 10 minuets”…lol. As if it is not hard as is to keep the connection live between us while we are in 2 different countries. He say he will come to visit me!! Let us see how much truth is to that and if he will work on it “Passive Pisces as he is”. I wonder if I sit passive and do nothing, if he will turn around and start doing something to keep our relationship going. Is it trues that one you become intimate with them, that is it. All the the fun and romance is gone and they treat you ordinary and not less? Do they hold grudges? Will they seize the opportunity to pay you back on a hurt that you caused them? Why do they not express what they are feeling and thinking to their loved one? Can you help me understand them more….funny enough my father was a Pisces himself and I being hsi daughter adored him!!

  243. Moonmaid

    On July 6, 2009 at 9:44 pm


    To caprican woman,
    How about if u told him who said that u wanted a commitment? Try telling him that u think u need to know him better & you don’t think that u yourself will decide to take the step & commit that fast. Try the “reverse psychology” & see how he responds. Pisces men are little kids, they always want what thet can’t have.Make him think that yes u like him but u r not that much into him !

  244. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 6, 2009 at 9:46 pm


    TO Pisces Guy,
    I tried to call him and left a vocie mail asking him not to misinterpret what i was trying to tell him. I was kind, but it was him that was being distant as usual, so he makes ME run. I let him know that I didn’t know how to tell him anymore that he’s very important to me & said I would be here if he needed me unconditionally..but, to be honest with you, I hope he just forgets all about me and never comes back. HE is the one who hurt me, he said having sex with me was a mistake & other hurtful words, i explained myself as best, but truly I believe everyone else is right, he just doens’t care. anyways, there’s nothing else i could have said.

  245. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 6, 2009 at 10:01 pm


    to whatever: no i don’t live in VA.
    to Moonmaid: I did text him telling him that same day that i wasn’t asking him to marry me or be with me 24/7,but that yes, i would have liked our relationship to grow slowly. I told him i wasn’t angry at him or telling him goodbye when he was saying i was ranting about things, he was upset. But, like i said i explained myself to him, if he doesn’t understand or care to, what else was there to do? but say if he didn’t want me in his life that was his choice even thought it hurt me. and that i could not change how he felt or what he wanted. Im not going to lie iam disappointed,sad,and hurt. but, iam strong and truly if he wants more i hope he gets alot. whatever the reason, he should already know me and he shouldnt have treated me that way,he wanted me out of his life, so im giving him that. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CONCERN.

  246. Not That Into You

    On July 7, 2009 at 6:21 am


    For you beautiful people in question of your Pisces Man, do Not Give Your 100% devotion to Him.. It’s a wonderful thing to be Loved and Feel Loved, however; when you set yourself aside and make the Pisces Man a priority over yourself you go wrong. Speaking for myself and being a Pisces I can tell you we will lose our interest and feel we have dominated you and thus making yourself predictable as well.
    Always Keep a Pisces on Their Toes and Wanting More as well as with any other Man (sad but true)..

    My suggestion to you all would be that if you are in any relationship where your significant other has shown Their True Colors after a matter of Months and you Don’t like the Person you now see, RUN!!!! We all know that the beginning is a memorable fun time and both parties are out to show the best of each other, but; after some time it all fades and you see one another for whom they truly are.

    My intentions weren’t to post but to merely enjoy reading some of these comments as I find some to be funny, sad and others disturbing, however; I found to many posts by women seeking to find an excuse to stay in a relationship with a Pisces and so I thought I’d just post my 2cents :) .. Don’t Linger in an Unhealthy relationship, drink up some High Self Esteem with a shot of Confidence and Move On..

  247. Pisces Guy

    On July 7, 2009 at 3:36 pm


    - To Beauty Queen

    What can I say, I think that if you become intimate with anyone too soon, regardless of the sign, the magic starts to fade from that moment on.

    To a Pisces, an intimate act is regarded as the ultimate expression of affection towards the other one. When this is made without a true, deep bond which can only be grown over a good period of time, then it loses its value.
    In other words, an intimate act should be the seal to a genuine strong relationship, not the gate to it.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I see this moment best timed only after a certain key moment, such as marriage. By then you will have been together for long enough for the relationship to get stronger from there instead of losing color.

    Do Pisces hold grudges?
    Well, many of of them are easily hurt, but are willing to just as easily forgive if genuine apologies are presented.
    But yes, some Pisces can keep open wounds for very long periods if they felt the other acted in an unjustifiable manner.
    And yes, vengeful plots can accompany this (after all, it’s the sign of the imagination). I have a Scorpio ascendant, so I think that side may be a bit more intense on my part.
    Still, most payback scenarios are kept in the head, because they will always try to find the exculpable reason for the other person’s behavior.

    Why don’t they express what they feel?
    That’s a tricky one. I’ve found myself in this one a lot of times.

    I believe it’s mainly because they feel sometimes words don’t hold enough shades for what they want to express and the intention could be misinterpreted. And they prefer to be showmen rather than orators.

    That also includes keeping a long distance relationship.
    Let me give you an example: you can plainly say “I love you” over the phone OR you could vigorously pull her to a side alleyway, hold her gaze for a few good moments, lightly caressing her arms with your fingers, smelling her hair while whispering it to her ear.
    How do you put the latter over the phone?

    - To CAPRICORN WOMAN

    I believe you showed maturity and
    He may have felt the relationship fastforwarding before his eyes and decided to put it out by turning the back slowly.
    He may have not intended to hurt you, but maybe things did not go as he had imagined and didn’t know how to deal with it and just went the easy avoidance path.
    My opinion.

    - To Not That Into You

    I do share your fantasy, yet I believe this can easily lead to unrealistic expectations.

    What you’re saying is pretty much the story of all the Pisces (ex)boyfriends in the above stories: them dreaming about the perfect relationship, after a few months realizing their partner isn’t exactly the ones in their imagination and they are human and then backing away instead of trying to build something from there.

    Maybe the problem isn’t in the other person getting really open with a Pisces at some stage in the relationship. Maybe it’s that some Pisces take the other for granted and aren’t able to appreciate what they have.

    ……………………………….
    By the way, I will be away for a few days, so I might not reply too soon.

  248. Pisces Guy

    On July 7, 2009 at 3:55 pm


    I just want to make my comment on “Not That Into You”s opinion a bit more clear.

    I do believe that you should leave some room for imagination, for a Pisces to play with. To a Pisces, a suggestively clothed soul is more interesting than one fully unclothed.

  249. Beauty Queen

    On July 7, 2009 at 9:36 pm


    To Pisces Guy,

    Thank you again for all your insight. I can’t tell you how helpful this has been :)

    The stars and the chemistry were aligned perfectly for him and I to get close. I was right out of a marriage and he had some similar circumstances. I enjoyed every moment so did he. I guess I never imagined we will carry the relationship for 9 months so I thought at that time this was a one time chance meeting, take it or leave and will never happen or continue. Little did I know how attached I will become. The problem, if it is a problem here, is the more we see each other, the more the bond gets stronger for me. Since he does not express himself it is hard for me to know if it is the same for him. I really love him an dhe knows that very well so he is taking me for granted. What shall I do to stir him and wake him up a little bit without losing him? I hate to be predictable, and him losing interest from time to time in me. I am old fashioned too and would have never thought to get initmate with someone without marriage but yet I was very vulnerable (no excuse) and needed some love and compassion at that time more than ever. I have been hurt by him ignoring my calls at times, holding back lately his affection, taking me for granted, using me as his financial support…etc.
    I do not want to cut my line of communications with him, but also want him to stop taking me for granted and to become unpredictable. Do you think there is any hope for our relationship to grow and get better or is it completely doomed? Do u think he has any feelings at all for me? Would you treat someone that you care for like this after 9 months? I apprecaite yoru advice.

  250. Moonmaid

    On July 7, 2009 at 9:43 pm


    Why there is a weird kind of chemistry between Pisces and Cancer ?

    Pisces Guy….Thanks !!! :)

    Capricorn Woman: I am sorry for what’s going on..Pisces Guy is right in what he said.
    I think you should disappear for a while..maybe after txt him saying why is he making a big deal out of nothing. Maybe u should also make it clear that u do value him as a person that is why u r trying to get a hold on him to express your feelings !

  251. Moonmaid

    On July 7, 2009 at 10:02 pm


    Beauty Queen: U r very sentimental…U won’t like my comment but I will just say it..leave him..it will be hard for a couple of weeks but you will be okay..I was there..as a matter of fact I am still there..I left mine a month ago because I asked myself some questions: Am I happy ? Don’t I deserve to be loved ? Don’t I deserve someone to share my life ? I told myself that I am strong enough and I will do it & I left him..the first 2 weeks were really hard but I am ok now..yes I miss him & I think about him a lot but at least I am not feeling humilated..it is really so bad..why in the world do I keep on putting excuses for someone searching for a thing that might never exist?? If I am not his queen why would he be my king ??

    Pisces Guy…your comments ?

  252. Beauty Queen

    On July 8, 2009 at 12:11 am


    Moonmaid,

    I tried it few months back but after 2 weeks I found myself running back to him. I missed him and keep remmembering the romance and times we spent togetehr. I am telling you being a cancer woman, I am extremly romantic, sensitive and so caring and loving which creates a perfect setting for Pisces man to feel comfortable. Our chemistry is explainable. I know he is not teh last one to meet but I just found so much between that i could not found with others, though I should say i did not date much if not at all prior to being married….I appreciate the comments and support even if tehy are against my feelings. They are true and I will try but it is definitely hard.

    Pisces Guy….where did you go?? you are such a great help for all us :)

  253. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 8, 2009 at 2:16 pm


    He still texts me.

  254. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 8, 2009 at 5:17 pm


    He will text and just talk about his day or what he’s doing at work…lol. I don’t know anymore, i will just be his friend.

  255. Moonmaid

    On July 8, 2009 at 9:36 pm


    Beauty Queen,
    I can understand what u mean because I too felt the same thing about my pisces..from the first time our eyes met I felt something..he is all what I have been hoping in a man..excluding when he gets crazy !!! :) It is very hard..I am thinking about him everyday..and yes there is really something about him..it is like I want to say “u r the one” but then I tell myself “If love were all” ! His craziness is very hurtful..it made be decide to be hard on myself..I just chose to get hurt so deep once better than getting hurt everyother day because deep inside me I know that the relation will not be the way I hoped it to be. I simply know that one day he might just get bored of me..but that is me, you know what I mean ?
    It is very hard trying to catch a fish with your hands :) a fish needs a bait..and maybe that bait is being not available all the time..it’s like being there and not there at the same time..like yes, I like you but I am busy with my life & my other stuff..tempt him by dreams, naughty talk one night & then disappear a couple of days then back to him again.
    Here is the thing, imagine that you are eating something very sweet everyday..what will happen to you ? I am guessing it is the same thing with them..do not feed him love, tender & care all the time !
    I really don’t know what to tell you ??

    Capricorn Woman,
    I think If he texted and talked as if he is a friend..you should act the same.Try to get busy with your life & make him feel that he is not the most important person in your life..I believe when pisces do not get enough attention they go after you to have that attention back..for example, when mine used to text and ask about what’s going on or what’s up I used not to reply..2 days later he used to text back & ask me “where are you”.

    Yes, I was not able make my pisces love me the way I wanted but at least until the last moment he was telling me that he can’t wait to see me & he misses me..I do not think he was bored at that point yet but he also was not in love & he I do not think he wanted a commitment as well.Maybe he had some feelings for me because I used to treat him the way I explained above ?? I am not sure ! But I thought I should just tell you things that I am guessing it worked with a pisces :)

  256. Virgo

    On July 9, 2009 at 7:01 am


    I ask any pisces man to please give me guidance….

    How do you move on completely when you have a part of them growing inside of you? With each kick you are reminded that you loved a pisces and the pisces man. Yes I have told him and it has been three months and nothing and yet he is on Facebook reconnecting with old friends (women). I did tell him in my last email to grow up and stop acting like a F*****g 2 year old. I did apologize for it and gave him three months to get over it. Now what do I just give up and tell this baby that who knows when your daddy will text me or pop up in our lives. I recently sent him an email letting him know that I am having complications and still nothing. He is 43 and should know better. Don’t you think?

  257. Pisces_1

    On July 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm


    Virgo,the Pisces man is the most difficult to understand. It’s full of mystery and drama. How do you move on completely when you have a part of them growing inside of you? What good would I do to you If I gave you the answer? Only you have the answer Virgo. The stars are leading you to this path and If the fish is your soul mate then you have to ride out the waves that are yet to come. Peace and Love.

  258. WisePisces

    On July 9, 2009 at 1:13 pm


    The Pisces male is currently in a state of confusion. They are in a process of self-evaluation.Too many of you this might sound insignificant right now but this is necessary for the pisces male. Give them time so they can grow as human beings and you will be rewarded later on. I know it is easier said than done girls but If you are patient…good things will come out of this.Best of luck to all.

    Virgo,don’t worry. Your pisces will be there when you bring the child to this world.

  259. Virgo

    On July 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm


    Thank you Pisces_1 and WisePisces for your kind words. I truly appreciate them. You are right in my heart I know the answer. I have known it all along. Like many of the women on here I have had a moment when I found myself scared and alone and dealing with a pregnancy that is riddled with problems and it is a long hard road ahead for me. All I can do is tell him which I have. I will leave everything else to fate.

  260. jennifer

    On July 10, 2009 at 1:19 pm


    To all fellow cancerian woman, put on you’re big girl pants and walk away with you’re held held high. To beauty queen WHY WOULD YOU HELP HIM FINANCIALLY? You are being used. you must enjoy being used YOU ARE BEING USED ARE YOU BLIND? THAT IS NOT LOVE LOVE SHOULD BE EASY.

  261. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 12, 2009 at 12:27 am


    To Virgo:
    When I had my baby boy I cried each night,even as he drank his bottle,my heart weighed too much for me, it was HEAVY. But,each day my son bought me smiles and just cuddling him and looking at him made me keep going,made me strong. You are not to blame for your pisce’s problems,there’s nothing wrong with you as a woman..you have to believe that. what ever he’s going through in his mind had nothing to do with you at all.You have to step back and concentrate on that baby inside you. You have been given a blessing* cherish that,be a happy mom for your baby* and a healthy one. Pain & misery can spread like a cancer if you let it, let that negativity go. there’s no reason to cry-trust me-everything DOES work itself out, just let it take you along, you don’t even have to do nothing,just keep your faith.

  262. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 12, 2009 at 12:35 am


    To Virgo: you know my son’s father was 45, he is 15 yrs.my senior. and he is a senior manager engineer for PFIZER..he never was around for my pregnancy or there for the birth of our son. I mean there’s nothing you can do when a man is just being SELFISH. Be alittle selfish yourself and start getting excited! Enjoy your pregancy! Eat all the good food you crave! lol* Just go through the moment of being pregnant, stop focusing on the heartache. this man, he will come around on his own, remember,your baby truly depends on you alone, this is YOUR baby, be strong, be happy, and don’t let the negative thoughts dictacte your days that can be filled with joy & laughter, don’t let it dictate your future! Have some Faith*

  263. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 12, 2009 at 12:43 am


    AND JUST 1 MORE THING VIRGO: now my son’s father wants me to take him to Ohio to see him for a couple weeks, my son is now 3 yrs.old. and he insists he wants me to come stay also at his apartment again.(this is the 3rd time.)i moved on with the pisces i was seeing,so iam not in love with my ex anymore. but see, he came around on his own as our son got older, he’s been there for him and trys you know. your baby’s dad will come around on his own,but don’t push him to, leave him alone and watch him come near. that’s what i did, i just left him alone and since then we have an excellent friendship for the sake of our son. who knows maybe we will end up married! not. lol! cheer up woman* ok sorry everyone for writing alot, i work from 10pm to 6am! on my 2nd cup of coffee!

  264. Royal D

    On July 12, 2009 at 8:03 am


    Hello everyone, its been a while since i had something to say, but here it goes. My pisces drives me up the wall. One week he’s texting and calling me asking what are you doing? then next week I barely hear from him. As a virgo, i don’t like to be ignored when i text you or call. He’s been doing that lately, i think because i told him i don’t like to be ignore. It’s hard to ignore him. But i do believe in some of the comments about if you don’t text back or not put them on a pedestal they’ll come back acting as if they had sense. I really don’t know what to do about my pisces. So should I treat him like a kid. I have a soft spot for him. At one time I was about to leave him for good but he came back as if nothing was wrong(i went 8 days not talking to him) I love this dude and he knows it. I feel as if he’s taking me for granted. Virgo in distress….S.O.S!!!!!!

  265. Virgo

    On July 12, 2009 at 9:34 am


    Capricorn Woman

    Thank you for all the kind and encouraging words you have given me. I am focusing on the blessing I have growing inside me and I do know it is truly his loss. I have only sent him emails concerning the baby. I have no intentions on begging him or demanding him to be a part of this baby’s life. I let him know I was pregnant and just recently let him know there were complications. The only thing I will do next is let him know when the baby is born. I feel this is the right thing to do. If he comes around, I will treat him the respect he deserves as the baby’s father. I am really just too old for the ridiculous cat and mouse games. Men always say that want women but no games yet they seem to be the masters of all the games. I can understand the games played when your a teenager because you don’t know anything else or better. As adults and we are talking about people in their late 30s and early 40s come on put on your big girl panties and big boy underwear and be an adult. I am slowly moving on with a man I have met and he seems to be geniune and at the very least mature. We will see how it goes. Life does go on and there is always a light at the end of every tunnel.

    Royal D

    I played the same texting game with my pisces. He would not contact me for a week and then send me a text asking me if I forgot who loved me. Telling me I was the one that was changing when in fact someone else just peaked his interest. Pisces know who the good women are and they ultimately want to end up with a good woman but they can’t seem to get to that point like everyone else. They sit on the fence and when the good woman walks away because they have just had enough of the waiting. They convince themselves that they weren’t good enough for the woman and go and seek another who they deem less so they can be their white knight in shining armor and feed their bruised egos
    . I know this advice is confusing but so is life with a pisces man.

    Virgos are straightforward thinkers and we are realists. Things that don’t make sense don’t sit well with us and this is why you have all this turmiol with your pisces. We want to say we love you and we want to know that you loves us in return. We like our lives to be just that plain and simple not a constant wave of turmiol and drama.

    Capricorn this is my rambling without coffee could you imagine me on 2 cups. lol

  266. Not Sure

    On July 12, 2009 at 6:40 pm


    Qustion: I left my Pisces 6 weeks ago because he does not love me the way I loved him. Will he come back ? Or are we already done ?

    Thanks for the responds !

  267. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 13, 2009 at 3:01 am


    to Not Sure: wow. i hope iam wrong. but, if he hasn’t made any contact or tried then it doesn’t seem like he will come back. i didn’t talk to my pisces for like two months-now he’s chatting up different woman on myspace, just playing the field. its not for nothing but pisces men seem to be full of it, players. lol

  268. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 13, 2009 at 3:02 am


    LIBRA MEN are good at relationships and commitment. my sons father is a Libra, and he was with me all the time! they are romantic, the kind that will take you to the finest restaurants-wine & dine you, and want to be with you.

  269. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 13, 2009 at 3:05 am


    I don’t know if someone had asked but: my sun sign is Capricorn. my rising sign is Libra. and my moon is in Cancer.

  270. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 13, 2009 at 11:17 am


    last night i wrote to my ex pisces man and he was distant for a few days and i got the same sick feeling that he was being indifferent towards me. i told him to forget about me for good and i explained how much hed done to make me think he didnt care. i called him a shallow a**hole..and now iam moving on. i will check back with you guys, but that should do it for me! i feel great.

  271. Not Sure

    On July 13, 2009 at 5:54 pm


    Capricorn Woman,

    I thought Pisces men need to be grounded..I know they are senstive also..but I just thought that if I left him, he would recalculate the situation !

  272. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 13, 2009 at 10:31 pm


    TO Not Sure: I was so close to my pisces, he wanted me with him 24/7, it was crazy. Suddenly he became distant and I got hurt and stopped talking with him & told him goodbye. 7 wks. passed-no word or text from him, so I texted him & saw eachother, but it was too late, he remained cold..so I finished everything with him recently. He never says anything, one thing is true about Pisces men, they are passive, they just let things go without saying anything or doing anything. One thing is not true, they are not sensitive, if they were, then they would care more for us! Where is the sensitive male who understands women? B>S

  273. melissa

    On July 14, 2009 at 10:40 pm


    i agree pisces are actually worse than a sunsign that tells you to you’re face it’s over. They take the wimpy way out and pretend it’s due to they don’t want to hurt you . HA I DON’T WASTE MY TIME WITH PISCES MALE IF IT’S NOT NECCESSARY.

  274. melissa

    On July 14, 2009 at 10:43 pm


    also pisces men should live the’re lives on the stage and leave us mortals on this earth alone. lifes too short to join they’re fantasy games

  275. run

    On July 14, 2009 at 11:14 pm


    run

  276. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 15, 2009 at 3:36 am


    EVERYONE HERE IS A COPY OF MY LAST MESSAGE TO MY EX PISCES:

    I know you may not believe me much anymore,lately I know I’ve been confusing, but I have only gone off based on what you demonstrate..I just lost focus & felt like you misunderstood me. And I have been a mess, a total mess. The only reason Im giving it a try with Norman is because I know you don’t have feelings for me & for my son. You came into my life & made me feel alive, because I hadn’t had that closeness in my life for a long time. I always felt safe with you & for me it was genuine. I know I love you, but I can’t go back to that dark place anymore, I’m past that agony in my life, no matter how much you mean to me. I know something about you that I’m sure of and that’s that you do care. whatever happened to change how you felt is not in my control. But, if there was anything I could do, I would do it for you. I won’t forget you or what you made me feel…it was just important to me that you would know why I’ve been so confused. I made a choice now & I can only hope that you won’t or don’t have any ill feelings towards me, I don’t have anything else left to give.These truly are my last words to you Marcus, Im sad about the way things turned out, and I’m sorry if I myself did anything to hurt you. Take Care*

  277. Pisces

    On July 15, 2009 at 12:45 pm


    Hey beauty queen don’t worry!! i am pisces man .. Live him alone for long day he must around u for long day…

  278. Virgo

    On July 15, 2009 at 5:30 pm


    Hey does any one know anything about Aquarius men? As you know I was involved with a pisces and now an Aquarius seems very interested in me and seems to have the gift of gab. He actually talks this is certainly something I am not used to.

  279. Moonmaid

    On July 15, 2009 at 10:46 pm


    Capricorn Woman,

    I just want to tell u that what u wrote to him is the exact thing that I wrote to my ex Pisces..I feel you..it is so bad..mine has not even bother to respond..it’s like I wrote the email to myself!!! Five weeks now and nothing from him.
    I believe that whatever confused they are, it has nothing to do with love..in another words they did not fell in love. Put yourself in his or even in my Pisces shoes..if u got what you wrote or what I wrote & you are in love, would you even hesitate in responding by a single word like “sorry” or “I did not mean to hurt u” ???
    I consider this an act of abuse..it is like they abused our feelings. We did not choose to be senstive or sentimental..so instead of appreciating someone with such feelings they just take what best of it & then “Gone with the wind” ???
    I wish you a better luck & a soon healing so as to me!

  280. Zodiac

    On July 16, 2009 at 12:49 pm


    Virgo,aquarius men are the so called “leaders” of the zodiac. They go after what they want without compassion and they usually get it. Aquarius defines invention,knowledge and humanity.I have a couple of friends who are aquarius and they are extremely intelligent but are also emotionally detached. You will notice the difference right away between an aquarius and a pisces. If you can get past his “airy” ways then maybe this is the man for you.

  281. Capricorn Girl

    On July 16, 2009 at 1:05 pm


    Wow!!!Pisces men sure have broken a lot of hearts. I dated one not so long ago but he told me was confused and needed to see the world before committing himself. Last time I heard from him was 9 months ago and he was in Nepal!!!He sounded happy so I wished him the best even though I still was madly in love with him. Shortly after that I dated an aquarius and that didn’t end good. He was very possesive and would get jealous when I talked to other men. There was times when i needed to be alone but he would be all over me in an annoying way. I found out he was cheating on me with another woman and decided to get him out of my life.If you are looking for an egocentric man than this is the guy for you.

  282. little Cappy

    On July 16, 2009 at 2:53 pm


    hey, CAPRICORN WOMAN, just to say “bravo” for the msg you sent to your pisces..because you were honest, noble, fair and brave;
    It’s time for you to end that ill feelings, because he lost something very valuable in his life. His bad. Thats what they do, they keep losing very special people in their lives, and he will see that, sooner or later. Thus, don’t be surprised if he texts you, eventually, yes…!
    As a Capricorn, I know how important is for us to control, to estimate everything that’s going on around us, simply – to be prepared. I think that you do that well. Just dont allow him to pull you down, because of his own insecurity. BE SELF CONFIDENT, I think it’s the best way to be very magnetic for a pisces man. Be strong, because he’s not; and if needed, even act like you forgave him! -that should relax the victim, i.e pisces :) ))

    Oh, and there isnt need to play games with pisces men – simply -having fun turns to be the best way! :) You’ll feel better, plus it might bring back his attention to you.

    Still, for my ex, pisces I’ve mentioned on this topic, I know what works: I’m careless while in touch with him (only ‘brave’ texting, of course O_o) also,I’m honest, act in a direct manner, but I don’t want to reveal completely my true thoughts. I’m just having fun, lol! :) But of course according to my sun sign, I’m always on-guard, and the benefit is that he doesnt realize how cautious I am. B-)

    hey, all! listen to this song, “good buy, pisces”, by Tori Amos -try to find it – it matches with our situations here :) )

    as for aquarius men, I ve dated one. He was sooo fun, so smart, he talks a lot, makes me feel so relaxed, like no one before! to be in his company is something wonderful.. But I didnt want to commit to him and all that, and he became so cold towards me :( ((( He was so special.

  283. whatever

    On July 16, 2009 at 3:07 pm


    little cappy,

    You sound like me. i am doing the same thing and it seems to be working for my own personal benefit and maybe his as well. Seems to be a good match between us because I like it this way, it adds some mystery to the scope. i bet he feels the same, i’m sure!

  284. Ms. Virgo

    On July 16, 2009 at 3:50 pm


    I agree that Pisces do have their ways about them, but as they mature they do improve on their bad habits.

  285. Virgo

    On July 17, 2009 at 2:45 am


    Thanks all for the feedback on Aquarius men. You guys are great. We women need to stick together and may each and everyone find a man that will love and worship you. We have all paid our dues and deserve it.

  286. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 17, 2009 at 11:18 pm


    I was with a Libra male, he is an air sign like Aquarius. I loved him to death, I mean he was so sweet,nurturing,romantic-but one thing-he is an air sign, so he was flirty all the time and he did cheat on me. they are good liars too. as long as you dont act crazy jealous or are needy then all should be fine because air signs love to be in a relationship. just watch out cause they too like to be alone like pisces sometimes. give them that space and they love to travel…good luck*

  287. Virgo

    On July 18, 2009 at 5:20 am


    Thank you Capricorn Woman for all your knowledge. It is too early to tell, only time will tell about my Aquarius man. Update on my pisces he sent me quite a few emails like they were coming from his girlfriend. Trying to get information on the baby and how I was doing. He has pretended to be other people before. His writing style gives him up everytime. I gave no information and did not bite. I am really sick of the games. I didn’t play them in High School, I certainly not going to entertain them as an adult. I think I have made it through the tunnel and am going chose go very slow with the Aquarius. He can not be any worst than the Pisces man.

  288. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 19, 2009 at 12:22 am


    To Virgo:
    Iam so happy that you didn’t play his games, when he comes directly to you as a man, then that is when you treat him like one! you go girl!

  289. Virgo

    On July 19, 2009 at 6:21 am


    Capricorn Woman

    It is women like you that inspire me and help me rediscover my strength and my true value as a woman. You have helped and touched many lives with your honesty, reliable and straight forward advice. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

  290. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 20, 2009 at 2:44 am


    Thanks Virgo! my fellow earth sign* what’s an inspiration is having the courage to stick up for ourselves, we definately should keep practicing it and we will perfect it!

  291. Scorpio Female

    On July 20, 2009 at 3:37 am


    I am/was seeing a pisces male. At the start it began very wishy washy we were basically a distraction for one another just meeting at weekends etc. Then we pulled back twice during it, numbers on phones got deleted etc then he contacted me privately on an email on a networking site… we ended up meeting again, then it cooled off again (both his doing..) and out of the blue texted me again a week later… we ended up meeting again.. I was totally confused and didn’t know what this guy wanted from me, however I never text or phoned him first during the whole time and I think that used to drive him crazy. Uncharacteristically for a pisces male he chased me. When I met him 9 months ago I knew he was relocating to another country. I thought it would fizzle out to be honest so I kept it going, now he only has 2 weeks left. We’ve had the serious talk about him leaving and he’s never coming back etc. and I offered to finish it for good a few weeks back but he doesn’t want to, but now he’s pulling back the reigns again and the guy who once lived in my pocket for weeks has now only met me like once in the last week. His messages are alot more distant and I don’t think I deserve that… He’s done so much for me in the last few months and I have done loads for him too and now it feels as if he’s kicking me to the kerb and it hurts alot… We are extremely close minded, so much so that I’m thinking something totally random and he might say it aloud, which gives me the chills… We have so the same views and interests. It just sucks that he’s leaving and it sucks even more that he’s being distant and a total ass now too. They make great partners if you click but they know how to hurt too and they don’t seem to mind doing it as long as it gets them out of the woods…

  292. Beauty Queen

    On July 20, 2009 at 5:31 pm


    Scorpio Woman,

    Yes, they KNOW how to hurt and they will pay you back if you hurt them. They act very insensitive when they are hurt. My guess is, he may be hurt for leaving you and does not know how to deal with it. He will probably call you when he gets settled in his new place but it may take months :( (
    My Pisces acted distant from time to time as well. You just have to stop waiting for him. Move on with your life and if he comes around again then see where you are at in life at that time. He will drive you crazy if you just tried to guess why he is being distant. Pisces are chasers at the beginning stage of a relationship ONLY. They will take the back seat after that and will expect you to do the driving!! if you want him then you have to go after him and do the work because he will not!

    PS the love of my life was a Pisces and we moved on 13 years ago but we never forgot each other. He is married with 2 children now but the reason why we did not get married because he heard I got engaged and was so hurt that his dignity did not allow him to call and find out the truth so there you GO!!!

  293. Beauty Queen

    On July 20, 2009 at 5:32 pm


    Scorpio woman, is your sign “Scorpio”?

  294. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 20, 2009 at 5:42 pm


    I’m telling you. Casanova himself was a pisces. these men chase women, all of them! players that’s all. there’s no other explanation for it.

  295. Another Capricorn Woman

    On July 21, 2009 at 1:19 pm


    If any woman decides to become involved with a Pisces man, especially if he’s one like the ones talked about here, the only way to survive is to have a lover on the side. So when he does get distant, you have a back up. Might sound cold, but these men are mostly not stable.

  296. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm


    Alright, I have spent most of the day reading through all these posts and so many of them have been dead on and so many off. I am a Leo female and have been in a long distance relationship with a Pisces man for over 4 months now. We spent six long weeks on the phone for hours on end, multiple times a day getting to know each other before we decided to make the move to meet one another, because we couldnt take it any longer! We were already so in tune with one another that it seemed unreal. We logged over 2500 minutes and 3500 texts in a months time for three months solid! We know everything about each other. We were nervous about meeting, but once we laid eyes on one another there was nothing but pure connection…. our first kiss…. sparks flew! We felt as if we were destined for one another. We made the commitment to one another to make the LDR work.

    Next visit, he confessed his love to me, we had already discussed how deep love goes for the two of us and how seriously we take the meaning of a word so small, only for letters, but powerful beyond imagining. Both of us have only ever said those words to two other ppl in our lives, so we we knew when we excanged those words, we both would mean it. I felt the love radiating from his words, his eyes, his skin… no doubts. We were seeing each other on average of about every 3 – 4 weeks.

    Fast fwd to month 4…. he is put on probation at work for prodcution, becomes very very stressed and I notice that he begins to become a bit distant. Still logging lots of phone time and text time, but it is fading… okay… newness is wearing off. My gut instinct is telling me that something is not right though. We communicate VERY well, so we talked about it and he assured me that he was just VERY stressed out over losing his job and needed to step up his game. Okay… I understand.

    Now, BIG trip coming up for him… work and pleasure… he is becoming overwhelmed by it… I ask again if he is happy in the relationship… he resonds with yes, but worried and begins to pour out all his negative feelings about the distance… where do we go now, etc? He has to cancel our upcoming trip due to other obligations & we will not be able to see each other again for a month. I panic because I feel that I am losing him, so I go into protect mode and decide the next day that maybe we need a break because he cannot make me a priority in his life right now and I NEED that in a LDR. He is hurt and upset but understands and agrees. I then later confide that I may have made a mistake and dont want the break… he is confused and still cannot make up his mind.

    We still talk and call every day and he still tells me he loves me but I feel more like his friend now. He says he just needs time to work out where this is going. We are not really on a break, but we dont discuss the future. I told him I needed an answer, he said I was pressuring him, so I told him he needed to have an answer for me when he returns from his trip in two weeks… he agrees.

    Now I am waiting. Like I said, he calls and texts daily, but its not the same. I fear he is letting go. I have let him know that I am there, but I dont know how long I can hang on like this. He assures me that if he didnt love me as much as he does, this would be an easy decision, but its not. Just to give him some time! Meantime, I am losing my mind!

    Any advice from you Pisces Men!?

  297. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 22, 2009 at 3:48 pm


    Oh, and he is on the road now, he calls me to let me know that he is okay and all, and texted me Good Morning, I love you, call me later…. When I call, it just feels as if we are going through the motions. I am afraid to even flirt with him or ask when we are gonna see each other again because I dont want to feel that I am pressuring him again.

    I only call when he askes me too, but I am starting to think that maybe I should stop calling and maybe not take some of his phone calls? IDK? CONFUSED? Dont want to ignore him, we are still basically together, just not discussing future plans for a few weeks. He hopes he will be back to himself when he returns from his trip.

    Wondering if this is just his downstream phase or if he is disconnecting slowly.

  298. PiscesMale

    On July 23, 2009 at 4:32 pm


    LeoLeoAqua, your Pisces is in a downstream phase right now. You are playing it the right way so don’t worry.

  299. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On July 23, 2009 at 8:04 pm


    leoleoaqua,
    with the way pisces is and your gut instinct telling u otherwise, i would definately just listen to your instincts. if you feel somethings wrong,something is.

  300. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 24, 2009 at 8:26 am


    PiscesMale:
    Thanks for your comment. IYO, should I continue to text him or should I lay off completely? In the past, we have always sent each other texts whenever we were thinking of one another but lately I feel like Im doing most of the work. It kinda hurts my feelings when I text and dont get a response but I also want him to know that I am here for him and that I still think of him.

    He called yesterday and he sounds so much better now that his vacation has started. ALMOST back to his old self, but I know he is on vacation so I am trying to understand that I wont be hearing much from him. Its gonna be a long week!! LOL!!

    CAPRICORN WOMAN:
    Thanks, I do listen to my gut and yes, I know something is wrong, but I cant put my finger on it. I tend to think it is just his downstream phase, but this is my first experience so I overanalyze the crap out of it. Im a virgo cusp with Virgo Asc & a couple other planets in Virgo so I do analyze… analyze!! LOL!

  301. PiscesMale

    On July 24, 2009 at 9:35 am


    LeoLeoAqua, keep giving showing him your support but don’t over do it. Pisces men need their space and don’t feel hurt when he tells you that he needs time to be on his own. This is something pisces has to do once in a while in order to “find” himself. I can tell that you are deeply in love with this individual and you have already won my admiration by sticking with him this long. Very few women can stay afloat in the dreamy Pisces waters.

    Peace and Love

  302. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 24, 2009 at 10:02 am


    Yes, I am deeply in love with him. We both fell very quickly and very hard and had a deep connection from the very first conversation. We make each other laugh and we have so much in common as far as our lifestyles go.

    Its so hard to gauge what is over doing it…. I havent received a response from the last couple of texts I sent from last night & this morning & I am trying not to be hurt over it, its just not something he ever did in the beginning. Sometimes, keeping up with his texts was exhausting… now I barely get any!

    Im so scared of losing him. We compliment one another and make each other better people. I hope that he will not give up before we actually get to find out how great we can be just because the distance is making it hard right now.

  303. sammy

    On July 26, 2009 at 12:53 am


    to luna, WHY ARE YOU WITH THAT LOSER? GET A NEW MAN AND GET SOME SELF ESTEEM

  304. gorgy

    On July 26, 2009 at 7:03 pm


    I am a pisces and I recently dated a pisces. I thought two pisces together would be a good thing! I thought we would completely understand each other until I realized we are two completely different people!!! He was the grouchiest person I ever met!!! Sooo f’en moody!! Any litte ting would piss him off!!! He was like a ticking time bomb!!! I am such a happy go lucky person, so his grouchy personality just brought me down constantly. We work in the same neighborhood and he claimed he had been eyeing me for the past four years. He finally grew the balls to talk tome and I was completely awed by him in the beginning. Then I realized he didn’t call much, he was more of a texter, which i happen to have a problem with. Anyway i dealt with it until he said he was going away to Detroit for a week. He never called or text me at all for the whole week. I thought that was a bit odd, but still put up with it. He returns and texts me 3 days after he came back from Detroit!!! I felt as though if he really liked me would’ve called me while he was over there!!! Or atleast the day he came back. Anyway we atlk and text everything is good and then he becomes distant again.. For no apparent reason. He claims he is just being him!! Once again I put up with it and THEN he send me a text saying he is going to be away for a much needed vacation and he’ll call me when he gets back!! Then i come to find out he didn’t even go away he just needed space!! I said if you want me out of ur life just tell me!! He told me it wasn’t me and not to take it personal!! It’s been a whole week and i have not heard from him!! I am completely doen with him!! I deleted his number from my phone so I won’t get the urge to text or call. And I hope i have the strength to ignore his text or phone call if he does call!! PISCES MEN ARE “HANDS DOWN” THE MOST DIFFICULT MEN TO UNDERSTAND!!!!

  305. Pisces Victims!!! Stop Wasting Your Time!!!

    On July 28, 2009 at 2:31 pm


    Dont you ladies get it??? The reason why all of you feel this strong connection with pisces man because they tell you what you want to hear. 99% of pisces guys seem to easily fall in love with every women or they think they fall in love. Why? Because at first they see all the good stuff and it’s new and fresh. But they don’t realize that we are human and most human have good and bad traits. So when they start noticing something that they don’t like, they start to drift away. It’s like at the beginning they are totally blind, living in their own fantasy. But once they face reality, they don’t like it. If they truly loved you, you wouldn’t be on this page hurt, confused and sad. THEY TAKE THE BEST OF YOU! Once they have you, it’s not longer fun and exciting. Please leave these men alone until they realize that for a relationship to last there has to be committment and respect and not just fantasy. LIFE IS NOT A GAME!!! IT’S NOT A FANTASY!! Stop wasting your precious time and move on. Whoever says that playing games is the only way to be with pisces then it’s not a relationship. It’s two immature people who pretend they care about each other while they really don’t. Be smart and don’t settle!!!!

  306. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 28, 2009 at 4:42 pm


    My Pisces man and I do not play games with one another, That has never been a problem. And as for being committed to one another that was never an issue either. Our problem is the distance… we are very far away from one another. He NEVER ignores me, we are just experiencing some difficulties deciding how to continue with the obstacles between us and we both feel the stress of things being “off” right now. Yes, I question why it is so hard for him to make the decision since I am a more compulsive & reactive personality than he is and I am trying to understand these personality traits since they are not ones that I possess. I seriously FEEL in my heart that he is sincere and trying to work these issues out amongst himself, I just become frustrated and dont understand them.

  307. LeoLeoAqua get real!!!

    On July 28, 2009 at 9:08 pm


    LeoLeoAqua,

    Stop wasting your time and make yourself busy. Instead constantly thinking about what he is doing and if he is thinking about you, do something productive. He is on vacation enjoying himself and having fun, while all you doing is stressing out. 4 month long distance relationship and you are already having the same worries and doubts that women who have been in a longer relationship are having??? Hmmm. Girl, get real!!!

  308. No name

    On July 28, 2009 at 9:35 pm


    The pisces man is like a dreamy little boy..he needs a mother.In my point of view, that is the whole deal. If u could treat him like your boy & do not expect anything in return, u will not be confused !

  309. LeoLeoAqua

    On July 29, 2009 at 10:39 am


    You are right. I am stressing out and I am doing it to myself, part of my personality that I am trying to overcome, no arguments there. Of course I am having doubts… I NEVER had them before this sudden change in mood and I dont have experience with Pisces men, that is why I am here trying to learn. I do have the habit of emersing myself in my love and in my relationships…. just who I am… I love very passionately and very intensely. If it was a matter of just “Getting Real” it would be easy. Unfortunately it doesnt come that easy to us all…. that is why we are all so different!

  310. Pisces Guy

    On August 1, 2009 at 12:11 am


    Hey there. Long time no see. :)

    I’ve looked through almost all comments here and I think I’ve traced down a pattern:
    – most not-so-fortunate experiences above with a Pisces have taken place in a long distance relationship and some of cases had the people involved already gone through a divorce. (!)
    Please correct me if I’m in error.

    I would like to offer my opinion on this finding, if I’m not too daring.

    Firstly, I believe starting off a relationship as a LDR is not the best idea if you want to get something serious out of it. Your chances of staying together are already pretty average when you are at the beginning of a NORMAL relationship and don’t know the other very well.

    Add the distance to that recipe and the relationship-chance-meter drops quite a few points.

    Add a Pisces to that, and you have yourself a wobbly jelly cake of a relationship you’ll find pretty hard to grasp.

    If you bring with you an emotional baggage, you’ll almost make sure you won’t get any proper bite of that cake.

    They say Pisces are idealistic.
    But I believe anybody is pretty unrealistic if they date someone and imagine a LDR can function just like a normal relationship. Including your Pisces.

    Really now. If the dish got cold, just get over it.
    Some Pisces men are great if surrounded by supporting friends/family, some others are pretty insecure. Depends on more than just the date of birth.
    But from what I can see many of them (including myself) get quite waggly if the other one isn’t near them.

    Here’s my piece of advice. This will be quite direct, so I apologize if too blunt in some points:

    – Try to establish a relationship foundation together with your partner before going to a LDR.
    – If you do start off a LDR, try not to get too attached too soon.
    – Point out your expectations from the relationship on both medium and long term. This isn’t very common in the beginning of a relationship, but I think the sooner the better when involved with a Pisces. You don’t want your relationship growing beautifully just to see it stalling at some point just because any of you is unsure about your expectations, do you?
    – Don’t make your partner (whatever the sign) be your only source of self esteem.
    - Try not to project your insecurities onto him.
    - Be careful not to pour out your relationship details too easily to others believing they know you or your situation better than yourself. Constantly seeking approval and/or support for your decisions in your personal life may backfire and you could end up in a lack-of-self-esteem vicious circle.

    My opinion.

    I hope I didn’t sound too harsh.
    Cheers!

    Your beloved,
    Pisces Guy

  311. Pisces Guy

    On August 1, 2009 at 12:16 am


    I’ve just noticed the paragraphs are gone when the message is posted.
    Sorry if it looks like a big chunky block of text. It seems that paragraphs don’t work with their latest website update.

  312. scorpio tigress

    On August 1, 2009 at 6:00 am


    Picses guy, can we all have an LDR with you?
    sorry, just kidding
    it is tempting, though, you are so nice we all kind of adore you

  313. scorpio tigress

    On August 1, 2009 at 6:05 am


    Seriously now. , Pisces guy, this is some very deep, caring and well though-out advice. Thank you for caring to empower so many women, and for not taking our anger personally.
    Cheers.

  314. Beauty Queen

    On August 1, 2009 at 7:30 pm


    Pisces Man,

    I must say we all appreciate your hinesty, straight forward opinion. You are RIGHT! Many times we try to make a man our source of self esteem and security. You sound like you are a relationship counselor of some sort, are you?
    Why can’t every pisces man be like you? May be we wont have that much of confusion, problems and have better relationship with them. Please keep your good advice coming!!

  315. LeoLeoAqua

    On August 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm


    Pisces Guy.

    Thanks for your advice. I will say that in my situation we did both discuss our expectations out of the relationship very early on. We both wanted to be in a committed relationship and we got to know each other for six weeks before ever agreed to take the relationship to the next level both physically and emotionally. We are VERY straight forward with one another, but he just seems like he is trying to escape the reality of his life while on his vacation. What he doesnt seem to understand is that I AM HAVING TO DEAL with the REALITY of what he helped create and I dont have the luxury of escaping it. His lack of support right now seems selfish and self asorbed and basically I am left to deal with it until he is ready to discuss it. He wont tell me he wants to let go, but he doesnt give me much to hang on too either. Just keeps asking me to wait for him. I told him yesterday that I an done with the situation as it stands, but he has yet to return my call as I have asked so I can explain my position on that. Not that I am done with him, just the way we are right now. Very complicated. Maybe LDR isnt gonna work for us. Maybe it is too much for him to deal with. Maybe he does NEED me to be near him and he cant deal with being so far from me. I dont know only time will tell.

    Thanks for your advice!! It was really great!

  316. runrunrun

    On August 3, 2009 at 11:10 pm


    run

  317. the tigress

    On August 4, 2009 at 8:44 am


    I have a crazy question. What if that fishy IS the someone on the side, and knows it. IS that going to go well with his romantic need to “never fully get what he wants”… or is it gonna make him mean and vindictive.
    I am very romantic and nurturing, but alas, too intense for one mortal man – LOL (and my fulltime partner knows, and loves it, and don’t you worry, he has his cake and eats it too; ) Seriously, the truth is, I have come to believe that it’s my own responsibility to keep my heart resentment free… And I have yet to meet a man who can take as I give, and not drown in me if i turn my full attention on him… so yes, I am intense;( But crazy fun, too!

    I do beg for your tolerance here, I know I am risking a judgment day, so please, please, let’s not lecture each other on the moral side of how i choose to keep myself (and my man) sane. I am just asking if a picses man is a good man on the side – from the posts above I get the impression that having a relationship with two or three fishes at once may be the dream scenario, ha!
    Sorry if this is too much, y’all.

    I have to say I have been greatly inspired by this community! Kudos.
    Please don’t burn me on the stake… We all do what we gotta do to keep from slitting out wrists;)

    Much power to ya all!
    Celebrate life,
    tigress

  318. Gemini

    On August 4, 2009 at 9:53 am


    I had a pisces man at young age and we were very close. We knew we wanted to be in a relationship because from the very moment we clicked. Because of the navy, he got sent to another state and we decided that it wouldnt work out because I was too young at the time so we remained good friends over the years. Three years passed and it was by coincidence that we saw each other on the road. Everyone says it was fate how we pulled up side by side at a stop light and happened to see each other. Truely shocking. We were inseperable for the next few months until I met another picses. The new pisces was fun and exciting and always made time for me no matter what, he was there waiting on me. I made a choice to be with the new picses and broke the other ones heart. We were together for over a year, ended up getting married and happy until I saw a change in my husband. We would argue and fight and I couldnt take it anymore and told him that it was over. At first it hurt both of us but it was only right. A few weeks had passed to find out that I was pregnant. It didnt seem to phase him. A few months passed and he came around trying to be involved and I pused him away.He would try to come around again but I told him to leave me alone so i could get over him. He respected it. So now Im trying to come around but hes not having it. He doesnt want anything to do with me, but I told him its not about me its about our child. I know I was wrong but I needed the space to get over him. He just sees it that I was trying to push him away. Is it to late? Did I damage a relationship for our child?

  319. Pisces Guy

    On August 4, 2009 at 10:39 am


    @Beauty Queen
    Yes, I am a relationship counselor by day.
    And at night I take my costume and save the world.
    Tough jobs, but I would rather do the latter full-time, you know? :)
    No, really, in highschool and college most of my class mates were girls, so willy nilly, I got bits and pieces of their personal lives and learned to decipher some of the “feminine mistery” (or so I think).

    And, c’mon, you wouldn’t want every Pisces to be like me.
    I mean, there’s the phone calls from the Center in the middle of the night, the days away, the villains, the hot agents making you jealous… It’s not easy being a superhero. :)

    @ scorpio tigress
    Thank you for the kind words. I’m glad I can help.
    And I thought we already had a special kind of LDR, didn’t we? :)

    @ tigress
    Ha ha tigress the subject matter in your fist post was quite unexpected. I’m not going to address that, I really wouldn’t know what to answer without sounding wrong regardless of the position I took. :)

    Regarding the second one, I think I know what you mean by having to turn a relationship to almost a mathematical equation these days.

    We have to remember, though, that in 2009, more than ever, you as women have the power to choose your lifestyle without fear of a scarlet letter (more or less).
    In the past, much of the courtship part was mediated by the families of the lovers.
    All that means that today you also take full responsibility for your decisions.
    I feel your need to just go with it, but knowing when to hold back and when to go full blast is part of the socio-emotional maturity process, in my opinion. Albeit, a bending process towards what is socially acceptable in your community.
    It depends on the cultural context, of course. Maybe you would feel more comfortable in one of the Hispanic countries.
    Or in northern Europe. The latter are famous for their open minded culture in what concerns relationships and the status of the woman.

    That would be all for now.

    Cheers!
    Pisces Guy

  320. Pisces Guy

    On August 4, 2009 at 11:03 am


    @LeoLeoAqua
    Glad you could find help in those lines. :)
    What I have said before and will restate is that maybe Pisces aren’t the best mates at LDR’s.
    Keeping a relationship just by text and phone may be peculiar, I know it is at least to me. I have been there. Nice in the beginning, but there’s a a lot that is left unexpressed.
    There’s so much more there should be: the small gestures, the glances, the blushes, the pleasant silence together, keeping a door open for her, running to a cab in the summer rain, going in IKEA to try out the new ovens and couches, just for fun. :)
    I think you got the idea.

  321. Beauty Queen

    On August 4, 2009 at 6:55 pm


    Psces Guys, You are sooooooo funny :-) keep it coming an dthanks for all your advice and help. You put some senses back to us.

  322. experienced

    On August 4, 2009 at 8:26 pm


    all of you are..AGAIN. listening,believeing, & getting played by a “Pisces Guy” – get over it, move on, & let it go already. you all religiously continue to come back to this site like obsessed women with no life other than a zodiac sign! for goodness sake go out and LIVE.

  323. Pisces Guy

    On August 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm


    @experienced

    I may understand your point of view, you may have had a difficult time with a Pisces yourself, but if read most of the messages, you could find a behavioral pattern in the relationships these ladies experienced.
    Therefore, in one’s mind, it’s not hard to trace a connection line between a birth date and a broken heart.
    And here is where part of my “mission” comes in (you can already hear ta-ta-tadaa in the background).
    What I am trying to do is somehow show that there may be more than just zodiac incompatibility to the causes of a relationship failure.

    If you read my posts you could see that I am not defending the passive immature Pisces, quite on the contrary.
    What I am trying to do is actually separate zodiac traits of a person from other “real world” factors and give a glimpse of another Pisces guy’s point of view on their experiences.
    If anyone can find comfort in my messages, then that’s all the better.
    I am not an advocate of letting someone you don’t know drive your personal life boat, but I have yet to discover how bashing someone for trying to find some support will allow them to consider your opinion.

    Cheers! ;)

  324. the tigress

    On August 5, 2009 at 2:58 am


    I don’t see why men are always thought of as the hunters. If women weren’t conditioned to believe that they need to find the One man to belong to – well, we may not be hunters, but we may well become gatherers;)
    @ Pisces guy, bout the socio-emotional maturity process – I do know how to hold back, I have to, I would not be able to close one business deal if I wasn’t good at that – I just get tired of it. I don’t see why it’s emotional maturity to twist and deny our woman’s nature. Why not say “your funeral” and open our hearts and arms to more than one man – if they can’t bear the load of our intimacy – well so sorry, we’ll have to distribute it.
    I have been thinking about this dream concept I have of creating the Composite Lover – and it doesn’t have to be all sexual – just create a mental space/image where you pile up all pleasurable and nurturing experiences: a nice smile from the produce guy saying he’s just about to bring out fresher carrots; that divine massage you got last week from Brenda at the spa; the rhythmic moves of the cute guy painting the neighbor’s house; that Pisces boy that has been emailing you how well your horoscopes click – it’s all the same love!
    And, if a woman can give two men security and warmth at the same time (way more likely than a guy giving it to 2 women, I tell you that!), if she can make them, without trying, feel cherished and honored, give their dreams wings, stretch their comfort zone and stimulate their minds – without deluding either one – then how is this more damaging to any party involved than that accepted other option a woman like me has – which is to never truly express oneself, hold your tongue till it breaks your teeth, always wear a body armor of indifference so they won’t know how much you crave to touch them and be held?
    I don’t want to move to Northern Europe – it’s COLD there. Can I instead bend this community’s rules by sharing with other women what works for me, so we don’t have to die of breast cancer because the milk went sour from holding it back?
    Sorry, got carried away in rhetoric. But you know what i mean.

  325. the tigress

    On August 5, 2009 at 3:07 am


    And I’m not down with villainizing an entire sign either. I just think the Picses man’s natural inclination to get enthusiastic about things which present a puzzle (one he hasn’t solved yet!) give him an edge over the rest of us in a culture which has made playing games such an important part of courtship. Look at the dating education we are given – you’re not supposed to call someone for 3 days after you meet them! – all that crap… This whole Rules thing is drilled into people at such a young age that they become conditioned to play games… and I think, in a way, Pisces are the current winner of the cultural lottery.
    Think about this: In a hotter-blooded culture this three day wait would literally obliterate a man’s chances to get into a woman’s pants. I am not kidding. At least that’s my reaction (I am from a hot blooded culture) “What, where were you when i was thinking of you, now you call me – good luck trying to light a fire with wet wood! You’re two and a half days too late.” You cuss him out, and with loving passion, but firmly – and believe me, I don’t have to fake the firmness – it truly is a turn-off for me when someone is measuring my projected response. I don’t have to fake it – it just kills the bird it was trying to trap… My reaction is: what a pity, I did find you hot at first, but what man are you, letting me slide through your fingers?
    So maybe men will change if women change their own reaction and become more liberated, more true to themselves. (Well, it will have to be a mass reaction:) But let that happen enough times, maybe he’ll know not to play games BY DEFAULT with the next woman he meets. Or at least he knows that at least once in his life following those rules left him out of a very hot woman’s arms. And in an ideal scenario, when enough women do that to the men who are interested, we bend the rules towards an ‘exchange program’ that is more suited to a woman’s needs. Because – correct me if I’m wrong – but currently the rules of the dating game are tailored to make it very convenient on the men (who do naturally need more space and have an urge to go play with the boys just when you need them most) and very frustrating and self-abnegating on a woman (who wants to cuddle and be sweet and have some AFTERplay, for Christ’s sake!). So that’s my private revolution’s manifesto – teach them to be warm and responsive by rewarding the behavior and kicking to the curb the ones who suddenly need space just when you gave them your gifts of warmth…
    (Still, i have to concede, my mass action project may not work with the predominantly anglo-saxon gene pool here;)
    But that’s what I wanted to say, and agree with our beloved Picses guy, that this here is a climate of very strictly measured emotional transactions and i hate that. I do enough of that at work – where men have made the rules again. So I guess I will just keep instinctively rewarding with warmth and support open and spontaneous behavior and instinctively punishing with coldness any tidal effect games (at which unfortunately Pisces are so good at.) But hey, who said one woman can’t change the world, right? I got a costume too, Pisces guy. It’s fishnets and lace, but, believe me, it works.

  326. cancerian mama

    On August 5, 2009 at 1:25 pm


    I agree 100 % with experienced! Leave it or you like playing games with men! And yes, pisces men are peculiar to me either! I love one but I love myself more…

  327. Foxy Lady

    On August 5, 2009 at 1:56 pm


    There aren’t very many happy postings on here about the Pisces man and it is a bit off putting and depressing. I have experienced alot of these quirks myself. I am happy to read Jade’s comments though which were very uplifting and also true. if I turned the situation around, I see that I fell too quickly too deeply and the conquest was won too soon. In short, the fun went out of it, I lost my sparkle. I’m backing off big time to try and salvage something. Thanks for reminding me Jade, you are absolutely right.

  328. One of a Million

    On August 5, 2009 at 11:34 pm


    To The Tigress: I just want to tell u that I do understand every word u say..and the issue is not an issue of a Pisces man it is an issue of all men I guess. The more u give the more u loose…..why ? I don’t know :)

    To All : What could u do if u have so much feelings and love that u want to give ? What would u do if it is too much for one person to handle ?

  329. no kidding

    On August 6, 2009 at 4:42 am


    The rules were made by men, for men, truer words have never been spoken. But we keep the rules working by playing by them. We are complicit. I say, sabotage the rules. Ignore them. Encourage those who break them. I say, kill’em with love. A few at a time if you have to – if it helps, sure, why not. Yes, it has come to that.

  330. A Good Pisces

    On August 6, 2009 at 4:56 pm


    I’m a Pisces male and find the bashing generally unfair. There are two kinds of Pisces men. The ones that swim with the current and let the water take them were it leads and those that swim against the current and create their own life from dreams that they actually work at so that they come true. I am the latter.

    I have a masters degree, three teaching credentials, my own home, invest my money, and have worked at the same school for over 20 years. There is nothing unambitious or lazy about me. I consider myself a great catch.

    In my relationships I have never gone out on a girlfriend or for that matter intentionally hurt anyone in my life. I HATE game playing and have no room in my life for people, of any sign, creed, color, religion, ect. who lie, cheat or manipulate. Trust and loyalty are very important to me. I have many female friends because I have always related better to women because I feel things at a much deeper level than most men. However, none of my friends are FWB’s and I treat all my friends, male and female, with the utmost respect.

    I’m currently dating a Cappy, who I really like. She is hard to get to know because she is cautious and her emotions run much deeper than mine. Being as open and transparent as I am, I have found myself having to emotionally slow myself down, which is good practice for me because usually I get overly into somebody and then they suddently lose interest. (Them NOT me) I’m really taking my time with her because I think our temperments suit each other and I’m enjoying the slow development of our relationship. I enjoy being in a relationship. I’ve never been a serial dater. There is nothing like being with one person who is everything to you; especially your best friend.

    I think that women should be aware of the type of Pisces man they are interested in or is interested in them. A good Pisces catch would be a man with ambition, tangible evidence of being successful, a history of healthy long term relatinships, the ability to keep and maintain a budget, and a history of consistent, mature, appropriate behavior. However, if you are going to chase after a Pisces who is forever trying to find who he is, living in Neverland, has been in multiple jobs, multiple relationships and is early on inconsistent in regards to making/taking phone calls and the way he treats you (hot/cold), than get out while you still can.

    Just do me, and other men like me a big favor. Don’t judge everyone in such negative broad strokes because a few people in a particular sign or any other category turned out to be A-One Losers. Open your eyes from the beginning and you’ll be able to screen out the men who’s only intention is another female adventure.

  331. experienced

    On August 6, 2009 at 6:08 pm


    “A Good Pisces”- see women!!! he said it straight and to the point. he does not need to say anything else. now if you still don’t get it after this one posting-then what you need is a good THERAPIST. SERIOUSLY. stop your nonsense & grow up ladies, you’re acting worse then the pisces men u complain about, if you operate every single word said to you, then its no wonder your fish swam away, they didn’t want to be your EVERYTHING-literally!!!!! @ “Pisces Guy”-you’re so full of it & i can see right through you,playing straight into these dense women’s emotions.

  332. experienced

    On August 6, 2009 at 6:14 pm


    I’m not a bitch & I don’t know it all women ok. but, come on already! I mean it’s been months now!! move on, just stop yourselves in your tracks and stop asking the same questions over and over again, coming back to check what some zodiac pisces guy is going to reply, so you can digest his every word and continue to feed off false hope that you yourselves are hurting yourselves with! its you! move on!! the men you dated were immature, shallow a**h****-that’s all there is to it, no, they don’t love you, no, they are not going to realize how special you are. as a matter of fact they aren’t even thinking of you. no, they are not going to chase you,call or text, they moved on!!!!!! no, they are not going to change! move on already. goodbye all!

  333. Beauty Queen

    On August 6, 2009 at 6:51 pm


    Experienced, I do not think cursing is necessary here. Everyone taht si on this page is just trying to help other people. We all have our own opinions of Pisces men and share our own experiences so otehr females can learn from our mistakes. In addition, because some of us are very emotional, it takes us longer to detach our selves from a man that we became intimate with. Some understanding is needed here or may be this is too much for you to view or deal with.

    At “Pisces Guy” and “A Good Pisces”, we know that there are 2 types of Pisces. As a matter of fact, the love of my life who I met 13 years ago and was a phone call away of marrying him is really the “A Good Pisces” description man. Unfortunately he is married with 2 kids and I never forgot him. He is EXACTLY like what you described “A Good Pisces”.Just too bad for me and lucky is his wife :-(

  334. Beauty Queen

    On August 6, 2009 at 6:52 pm


    Experienced, I do not think cursing is necessary here. Everyone that is on this page is just trying to help other people. We all have our own opinions of Pisces men and share our own experiences so other females can learn from our mistakes. In addition, because some of us are very emotional, it takes us longer to detach our selves from a man that we became intimate with. Some understanding is needed here or may be this is too much for you to view or deal with.

    At \”Pisces Guy\” and \”A Good Pisces\”, we know that there are 2 types of Pisces. As a matter of fact, the love of my life who I met 13 years ago and was a phone call away of marrying him is really the \”A Good Pisces\” description man. Unfortunately he is married with 2 kids and I never forgot him. He is EXACTLY like what you described \”A Good Pisces\”.Just too bad for me and lucky is his wife :-(

  335. experienced

    On August 6, 2009 at 9:50 pm


    @beautyqueen, it was a good kinda cursing, yeah you are too emotional. ok sweetie it’s time to move on. I understand that you are hurt, confused & all that. and support & understanding is needed. ok you were given alot of advice & support ALREADY. my goodness didn’t you get any of it??? let go already for goodness sake & yours!

  336. experienced

    On August 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm


    you posted on january 2009 BEAYTYQUEEN. Since then you have recieved alot of advice answering the same questions for you over & over again & again you keep with the same pattern. you don’t need more advice to help you, what you need is to accept reality. this man doesnt love you & he didnt and he’s not. he was not a good loss! now, are you going to keep pretending that no one here has said anything to you???????????????????????

  337. the tigress

    On August 6, 2009 at 11:43 pm


    Have to agree with experienced on this, it WAS A GOOD KIND OF CURSING. she’s a sister, Beautyqueen, and her words have MORE TRUE LOVE in them than some other more mellow sounding advice.

    in your case, sweetie, you do need a sister to grab you by the shoulders and shake you up.
    listen to her. I don’t agree with everything she says all the time, but when the signs are that blatant that even we, second hand, get the memo for you, this is therapy, it’s good medicine:

    “no, they don’t love you, no, they are not going to realize how special you are. as a matter of fact they aren’t even thinking of you. no, they are not going to chase you,call or text, they moved on!!!!!! no, they are not going to change! move on already.”

  338. the tigress

    On August 6, 2009 at 11:54 pm


    @experienced
    I found this site less than a week ago, so I’m going to stick around for more tough love, if that’s okay with you;)
    It IS a spontaneous support group, I’ve never seen anything like it. I hope it stays alive.

  339. experienced

    On August 7, 2009 at 12:39 am


    It took me a long time to grasp my own words, but I did. I call myself experienced, but my real name is gracie. Iam a single mother of a beautiful 3 yr. old. and I call myself “experienced.” because I have that. Ladies, post your real names & say who you are..beautyqueen-what is your name,Tigress,what’s yours..leoleoaqua what’s your name?moonmaid,virgo,ivy, who are you, what are your names! we are women, we are somebody. we aren’t victims. love & embrace yourselves & watch that loving feeling be awakend by a real man, not some selfish coward. no matter his sign. Iam a capricorn, we are all alot of different women here with different signs..we are not all one sign. we don’t need to be pisces or need to be with a pisces to be supportive of one another or complete. ladies, it’s time for some tough love* Lets empower one another! STAND UP-WHO ARE YOU?????????????? this is Real Women talk, anyone been hurt by pisces,libra,scorpio,sagitarius,cancer,gemini,virgo,aquarius,aries,capricorn,leo,or taurus? come to this site, it don’t matter baby, we got a sister hood here now. and we are here to stay. you are all gorgeous from the inside out, intelligent & noble. you all are a REAL GOOD CATCH!!! so toss the little fish because you are Dophins honeys! beautiful* goodnite* come meet me, lets get to know one another & take this support group up! http://www.myspace.com/487489056….smile ladies, it’s a new day*

  340. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 12:51 am


    experienced your link’s no good, post it again!

  341. gracie (experienced)

    On August 7, 2009 at 12:53 am


    oops. my myspace is http://www.myspace.com/487489056
    trust me when i say, i know what you all have gone through or are going through, i understand. Iam also CAPRICORN WOMAN. read above to see how enwrapped i was in my own false hope. I was there too. but, i’m done, & my hand is out to those of you who need it. i went through the same confusion and heartache, asking why and will he come back. etc…i was there & i understand each of you.

  342. gracie

    On August 7, 2009 at 1:06 am


    this is the bastard who broke my heart. met my family.met my son. who made me feel like i was in heaven & then disappeared and left with not a word what so ever. LOL! it’s funny, it’s okay. laugh…lol. that bastard! lol this is him http://www.myspace.com/24legend
    don’t contact him! lol it’s been over. i just want you all to see the reality of things, this is real what we go through & the lives we lead. our children deserve happy mommies* we deserve getting wined & dines & having a man make us laugh & get all dolled up & pretty. not sit crying over spilled milk, casue that’s what these immature bastards are, spilled milk. lol love u all, goodnite*

  343. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 3:17 am


    @ gracie
    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I have to say that explains a lot.
    I, too, believe indulging in self-pity can only take you lower.
    Still, you bash Beauty Queen for being so affected, but you put your ex’s profile online along with a very subjective description of him.
    How does that support your manifesto?

    I was ready to say that you have a point when you mentioned that too much advice can have adverse effect (because that’s what I was saying in one of my comments, too) but it seems to me that someone else can’t get over their past.
    I don’t know you and I can’t judge you for your actions.
    If you’re going to look at all men through the filter of your last one, then that’s your decision, you can have your personal opinion just like everyone else, but please don’t try to convert everybody to your own reality only to feel justified in your attitude.
    And I’m not sure this web page is the best starting point for a revolution.

    I hope my message finds you well and you don’t take this on too heavily. I apologize if it sounds harsher than usual.
    You can go ahead and let your past anger loose on me if it makes you feel better. After all, I’m just another pisces, exactly like your last one, aren’t I?

    Cheers!

  344. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:04 am


    @ Pisces Guy – don’t get so sensitive, honey;) You have offered yourself as our pet, so stay with it. You give good advice, we love it. We LD-love you.
    It’s natural that you’ll get some ashtrays thrown at you, and you know it.

    But you have to admit Beauty Queen needs a sisterly spanking. And I do say it with all my love, from a woman who has been there, and probably will be there again;)
    If she lived next door, I’d get a bunch of girlfriends to get her drunk and get her a gigolo, so she realizes a lot of men can make you feel like you’re in Heaven, if you pay them. Brutal, I know. But that is also love.
    Beauty Queen, you are teaching him that it’s okay to do that to other women, if you keep taking him back and buying more things for him. We owe each other to teach them it’s not okay!

    I don’t remember Gracy/experienced ever saying her manifesto was to never feel vindictive towards the guy. You gotta do what you gotta do to make yourself feel better – and contrary to “spiritual opinion”, i think it’s okay to hate their guts for a while. It does help when you’ve been deeply hurt, your self-esteem to pieces, to think the other side is scum, in order to start regaining your self respect. And sometimes, the other side IS scum. I mean, yeah, we are all innocent babies inside and some evil circumstances made us harsh, but come on. Maybe he needs a bit of a kick in the onions. Big deal, let the guy get some funny mail LOL. You go, girl! Men who are aware of their power and still use it without integrity should know they can get away with less and less.

    Also: Any place is a good place to start a revolution. Any place.

  345. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:30 am


    And of course that goes for women too – about knowing your power and using it without integrity being NOT COOL…

    And I agree that this is an overall male trend we are discussing (want what you don’t have, etc), It’s just that Picses men have this uncanny ability with women, almost a sixth sense, of KNOWING how we want to be touched, what we want to hear, how to make us feel like an icecream on an August night. It must be intoxicating, having that power. It’s not their fault, and it can be to their advantage – but they should get the warning/compliment/fortune cookie: “You are powerful beyond measure. Use it wisely or it will bite you.” Something like that.

  346. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:33 am


    @ the tigress
    Ha ha, don’t get all Freud-ish on me. :P
    And I’m not your honey pet! :)

    All I was trying to get across is that it’s very OK to express your feelings (be it anger or love) as long as you can see your situation a bit from above and not generalize.
    I’m not saying Beauty Queen isn’t very sensitive and prone to losing direction easily, it’s just that some approaches work better than others in offering support.
    I don’t see how good personal advice can come when you’re severely biased by a past experience and you project that unto the whole human race.
    My opinion.
    That’s all.

    Lots of love,
    Cheers!
    Pisces Guy

  347. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:37 am


    Just a note: when I say “you’re severely biased” I mean, anybody, in general, not you specifically.

  348. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:46 am


    @Pisces Guy: Sorry if i offended, the “honey” was a joke and a reference to all of us being in an LDR already. Which is in itself a joke. I know you are in a relationship, my respect and apologies to your lady.

  349. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:55 am


    @ the tigress
    :) ) Oh no, now I’m going to cry. And eat cake… Want some?
    Oh c’mon, I got it from the beginning, don’t worry.
    My reply was in a humorous manner, as well, (maybe I should have used more emoticons, or something).

  350. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 4:58 am


    @ALL: I am not American, not totally aware of the subtler shades and connotations of all words I am using. I apologize if I have been too expletive or sound rude at times.

  351. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 5:06 am


    @all: I am not American, either. But I am very aware of all the connotations of the words I am using, so you’d better think many times before you interpret my posts.
    They have subliminal messages embedded in them. Muhahhaha! :)

    Really now, if I, too, sound incoherent or heavy at times, don’t mind pointing that out.

  352. the tigress

    On August 7, 2009 at 5:07 am


    Damn, you do have the Force, Pisces Guy :) ) Do use it wisely. (See my 4:30am)

  353. gracie

    On August 7, 2009 at 8:37 am


    @piscesguy: Your opinion does not affect me, it seems to me like you are judging because you are ASSUMING I can not get over my past & that Iam exploiting myself & looking at all men the same as I do my ex. sensitive little fishy aren’t you?
    @Beauty Queen: I really wasn’t judging you or trying to bash you, the only reason I posted my links was to really open up to you ladies, so you would know who Iam, & how this affects us, real people,real women. I would give anyone a chance, even if I met another pisces man, Iam not scared off because I believe all pisces are the same as my last ex. I get tough love too, belive me & tough lessons, so I sincerely apologize beautyqueen if I offended you, it was not my intention* Iam a passionate woman… ;)

  354. gracie

    On August 7, 2009 at 9:05 am


    “I don’t see how good personal advice can come when youre severly biased by a past experience and you project that unto the whole human race.” are you serious? can anyone else honestly see through this comment by pisces guy? so, wouldn’t this comment apply to all women on here, since we all have the same experience & story to tell. Iam projecting it to all the whole human race? how silly. I CAN give my advice because unlike you I was hurt by a pisces man & went through the same emotions as these ladies. I understand perfectly how that feels & for that reason my advice or at least the advice I try to give has some validation to it. Either way Iam here to share some advice & share my experience with these ladies, as you so delicately put it (as most all your other personal comments with little taste.) Iam not being “feud-ish” but, I can certainly take on another pisces male… “cheers!”

  355. greeneyes

    On August 7, 2009 at 9:05 am


    Some common sense from a pisces woman:
    A guy who messes you about doesn’t love you. A guy who loves you wouldn’t dare play dangerous games that may lose you. Have more respect for yourself instead of flighty fairy tale romance fantasy and demand that someone treats you with the respect that you feel you deserve, or walk away. I too hate answering the phone at times, and will only ignor the phone when it is someone who I do not mind walking away (even my best friend, though she knows now that it means nothing when I don’t answer and I will be touch as soon as I come out of the mood I am in, more the quicker when I am not pressured: there is nothing wrong with me I’m just going with the flow). However, if the person calling was that important to me that I really did not want them to lose them, then that phone call would be answered, or at least replied to asap (that means within 30mins!). Pisces can take and leave a lot of people, but not someone their heart has fallen for, no way, they are hook, line and sinker, if it’s true. And don’t chase too hard, they will run, chase gently, and they will meet you half way, they are nervous people when something is serious and need some thinking time about it all, or if they don’t run then you will end up with half thought out ideas, and half felt emotions will not make sense to you or them, and if you really want them, then surely you don’t want that mess, and neither do they, as that mess will take far longer to untangle than if you had just given them 2-3 days to get their heart and head to work in sinc. On the whole they probably weren’t up to anything in that time (you scorpios, lol, just a friendly joke), but daydreaming, drifting, time with their friends, watching films or comedy. And may be we do have a few admirers, but, this pisces for sure, would never ever cheat if I was truely in love, wouldn’t even notice the gorgeous admirer I had spent hours with chatting and even flirting, means nothing (in that sense we’re very much like a gemini, it’s just a game, and we expect others to know what is real and what is fantasy).

  356. Pisces Guy

    On August 7, 2009 at 1:04 pm


    @gracie
    :) Even you have to see that this is getting ridiculous…
    For some reason, I thought I would find a bit more flexibility when I began replying to your messages.
    What can I say? Fine, have it your way, carry on with your crusade. Those bastard Pisces deserve it! Who am I to tell you otherwise?
    But I refuse to be your archenemy here, if that’s what you’re looking for.
    I have too little time to spend on futile quarrels.
    All the best!
    @greeneyes
    You do raise some essential points: someone who wants more than just fun, will keep his act together. So this should be a good indicator of his interest level.
    And yes, getting too serious too soon may scare them away.
    Still, my take is that a mature person will be aware of their shortcomings and will try to mend, if not at least cover some of them.
    In Pisces’ case it’s many times about the attitude towards dealing with important issues throughout life. Some will flow upstream, some will just go where the tides toss them.
    It’s good to have that point tested before going too serious into a relationship with them.
    My opinion.

  357. A Good Pisces

    On August 7, 2009 at 1:40 pm


    I gave my Cappy the boot this morning and I’m going to tell you why so you can understand why guys make certain decisions regarding women; whatever the sign.

    I said in my last post that I was proceeding very slowly with the Cappy I was dating. I met her about a month ago and during that time I have seen her three times and spoken on the phone with her about four; two of those phone conversations were less than 10 minutes.

    She is going on a trip on Sunday for the entire week. We went out Wednesday to a jazz club and had a very good time, but we only were together a couple of hours because her friend had a headache, so they left early (we had met at the club).

    Before she left I told her that I would enjoy seeing her again and told her to call me if she wanted to get together. She was non-commital. The next day, Thursday, she called me stating she was very tired, had to pack ect. I asked her if she wanted to hook up later in the evening and she said she had too much to do. She asked me what time I got off work Friday (today) and I told her 5:00. She then stated, “Perhaps we can get together tomorrow. I’ll call you.”

    This is something she always does. She never just calls and says she would like to see me, let’s get together. There is always an ambivelance. “Maybe we can get together” “Perhaps we can get together” ect. She acts like I’m at her beck and call.

    This morning I called her on it. I told her very openly that I was uncomfortable with the fact that she seemed to never committ to getting together and she wasn’t putting forth much effort in getting to know me. Rather than being open back, she said “Well, it looks like you already made up your mind.” I told her that I didn’t make up my mind about anything. That I was attempting to have a dialogue with her so we could discuss the issue. When I asked her directly to verbalize what she felt she said she was a single mom and had a lot of things to deal with and that I was “pressuring” her. Pressuring her? Because I wanted to know what was going on in her head? I saw her three times and had four phone conversations. Pressuring her?

    I then basically told her Bon Voyage. I have no problem going slow, even glacially slow as in this case. But hey, put forth some effort, make a phone call, send a little e-mail, tell the guy you would like to see him another time, when he makes plans with you and it’s not a convenient time or day and be specific. Let the guy you are with know you like him and are into him. A man does not need much to feel secure and wanted and that will keep him interested and prevent him from running/swimming away.(especially a Pisces man (upstreamer)

    In this case she not only took over the steering wheel, she hijacked the car. I had no problem letting her guide the relationship because in many ways she is stronger than me, but to stay on course she needed to nurture the relationship, but all she thought about was herself and her needs; her kids, her dirty dishes, her work, ect. Everybody has responsibilities, but if you really care for someone, you carve out the time, even if it’s 1/2 hour to meet for a donut somewhere.

    I’m bummed that this didn’t work out because although we are different in temperment, we complement each other very well. I just don’t do will with a woman who can’t communicate and isn’t demonstrative about how she feels.

    A Piscean thrives on nurturing and when they are emotionally healthy (like myself) they recipricate two fold. This woman missed the boat because I am a good catch.

  358. gracie

    On August 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm


    A Good Pisces: we capricorn women are very practical & we “will observe you from an emotional distance until we know what we are getting into to. We are also good at hiding our feelings as well as you. I was hesitant to meet my pisces & I was very cautious about getting involved with him too. we’re mystical sea goats too, so not afraid to “lunge into the depths.” give her some time. I called my pisces after 2 wks.because I missed him & I realized we had a connection & he had pursued me too. I’m guessing she will contact you again. Once he had gotten me to open up, i was very nurturing & told him how I felt. then poof! he was gone…lol

  359. Good Pisces

    On August 7, 2009 at 6:14 pm


    gracie;

    I honestly hope she does not contact me unless she is willing to stick her neck out emotionally. I went through this once already with her early on. I told her I would only be interested in continuing if she started putting forth some effort and a week later she called. We got together and almost immidiately she started doing the same thing. She showed interest, but she would always cut our dates short and be non-committal about getting together; “maybe” “possibly” “I’ll let you know tomorrow” That kind of behavior really is rude. What did she expect me to do, hang out until the next day so she can say, “Today isn’t good.” I have too much self-respect to let anyone do that to me.

    I know how important it is for Cappies to feel secure and I made it a point to be very consistent in how I treated her from the get-go. I felt I was very open, transparent and romantic with her. But a Piscian cannot continue in that vein if the person he likes stays shut down. All she needed to do was make an effort and she couldn’t do it. Because she didn’t I steadily got more uptight when she wasn’t around because I didn’t know where she was at and I won’t/can’t leave myself feeling vulnerable like that. It’s like feeling someones emotional energy through gauze, when you’re a live wire. We just didn’t mesh.

    I really should learn how to be a serial dater and I wouldn’t get into these messes, but I’m too concerned about other peoples feelings. It’s ridiculous. I really am too good of a person.

  360. gracie

    On August 7, 2009 at 10:32 pm


    A Good Pisces:I agree with you 100% in your decision, if she is really interested she will make the first move & make a decision. If you have been open with her & showed that you actually like her, then you’re right she needs to step up & show you she wants to spend time with you too. until then i would just ignore her until she gives you some kind of response, if not, then its a good thing you decided to move on. best of luck to you. by the way, capricorns are stubborn too, a bit. and a way of us controlling the situation or feeling like we are, for our own security, she can try to make it a point that she wants you to chase after her, give it time & she might be the one after you!

  361. the tigress

    On August 8, 2009 at 2:09 am


    @Gracie – I was deeply moved and inspired by your urge to reveal yourself. It took ba… – ovaries? Ha.
    I just don’t have time and energy for serious networking. Believe it or not, I don’t do Facebook, My Space or Twitter. I get so passionate about things (yes, Picses Guy, thanks – obsessive) that once I start, they suck up all my time. No brakes on this model (or at least I haven’t been able to find where they are), so I have to pick my commitments. But I am SO with you, we should reach out, we are – I just like spontaneous things kept that way for a bit. I think it happened here, why not keep it here. I AM HERE. Apparently a title like “Pisces Man” gets enough interest and gathers women like us under its ambiguous banner;) But love and strength to you, sister, and I’ll say it again, I am here.

    @piscesguy. Bout the subliminals. Got your piece of cake right away, no need for the evil opera laughter. Had to shut meself up because it’s my soft spot (but of course you knew that;). Nothing sexier than language lending a split shadow to things that seem real now, is there. Good stuff, but trying to keep it real here. Or make it next level, like, superliminal.

    @ A Good Pisces – well that sounds real (even Gracie relents;) They exist! Wow. Good luck, you good man.

  362. the tigress

    On August 8, 2009 at 2:46 am


    @ Beauty Queen. Come on now, it wasn’t that bad. We all want to see you cheered up and over that schmuck. We just happen to have different views of what’s helping.
    I do apologize if I hurt you (more than he hurts you;).
    I do hope you come around and tell us what’s up.
    I will not comment any more on you and your situation if it makes you uncomfortable.
    But sweetie, some facts: Women release oxytocin at the height of sexual pleasure, men don’t. (Some probably do, but they don’t make a habit of it.) Oxytocin is a bonding hormone. That’s why it’s so much harder for us to stay unattached, to have sex with them and not love them. The male bonding hormone is vasopressin, released, believe it or not, when they watch another male of the species try to pick up their lady (oops, that’s prairy voles, not humans, but you get the drift;) So. Looks like not men, but evolution/god/the starseeding race that designed us – you pick – screwed us over. But we have to live with it and exert evolutionary pressure on the species (both sides of it) to accommodate our needs better. (to quote a friend of ours:) My opinion.
    So…I was just playing evolution on you. I am sorry. Please come back and play;)

  363. gracie

    On August 8, 2009 at 1:56 pm


    @Beauty Queen: I understand you’re a cancer right? my moon is in cancer & my mother is a cancer, as a matter of fact, Iam just as emotional & sensitive as my mother. but, my mom has a hard character too, once you cross her, she is a beast! & iam the same way emotionally as her. I went back & read your posts & read my own, there is a big similarity. when I posted the harsh comments, It was something said to me outloud by my best friend, my mother especially,and my sister. It hurted alot, but I was just so tired emotionally & spent. I mean I cried so bad & just felt such a heaviness in my chest. I hope you find yourself well, I was thinking of you & you are the one with the longest story here, & I just know how it is to really care about someone,be intimate & giveing with them, that yes, we fall deeply in love. sadly, men like that don’t know how to value wonderful, sincere women like yourself. Enough is enough you know. It’s time to love yourself alot more than that man could have ever been capable of loving you. You’re not the kind of women who deserves for his left over crumbs to be thrown at her. My mother said to me that I was like the pigs when they hear the sound of the corn, they run to the person holding it! and it was true, everytime he called, I was there, regardless of what he had done & did. Be strong* I know you will get past this, and don’t let my comment discourage you from saying what you feel, even if you still want to hold onto your hope & hold onto your pisces. afterall, hope is all we really have. And we all move at a different pace, I understand because It took a long time & alot of convincing, until I was ready to move on, the heart isn’t a switch & I know that one well.

  364. the tigress

    On August 8, 2009 at 9:29 pm


    [the tigress is giving Beauty Queen a foot massage;]

  365. the tigress

    On August 8, 2009 at 9:40 pm


    @anyone hurting: A WOMAN’S WORTH by Marianne Williamson. Changed my world, how I see myself, how i relate to women – it gives you back your power overnight. About a hundred pages long: it is so worth it.

  366. Beauty Queen

    On August 9, 2009 at 2:18 am


    @Pisces Guy, Thank you for supporting my position on this blog. It hurted a lot when tigress bashed me and my feelings. If no one else ere value your feedback, I do TREMENDOUSLY. Please do not give up or stop giving us your advice.

    @Tigress, I accept your apology and so sweet of you for the foot massage. I know you are trying to wake me up to reality but for us “Cancer” women, it has to hurt a lot before, we have to cry our eyes out before we turn around and stand strong again. We are determined creatures and do not give up easily. Of course it is terrible in this situation.

    @Gracie, Thank you for being understanding and compassionate trying to relate from your experience to mine. Yes, i may be a bit slow to withdraw from him and definitely still have hope. I have been speaking with him here and there. I am trying to detach my heart slowly so it does not hurt as much.

    I am extremely sensitive and lack lots of dating/relationship experience so I am more vulnerable to get hurt easily and also become attached when I meet a romantic/compassionate/sensitive/caring/loving/fun pisces man (at least at first). I put him up so high. He compliments me and my character from these aspects. I truly believe that having a long distance relationship with Pisces is difficult, let alone their characters. I have known him now for 9 months and he seemed to have some feelings other than just the physical part of it. Like, he starting to open up about his personal life, that he misses me, and try to talk to me everyday. I may say he progressed a bit. I was going through some difficult times few weeks back and he was trying to be here for me. Taking some of my calls (2-3 times a day) and trying to give me a crying shoulder which I know this is VERY difficult for sensitie Pisces to do.

    Pisces Guy, do you think these may be signs of hope for our relationship to grow or continue? I am hoping to see him in the next 2 weeks. Anything specific advice you can give in dealing with him?

  367. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:49 am


    All my female friends said I did the right thing in calling the Cappy I was with on her waffling. But one female friend stated I was out of line and had no business saying anything because we were dating for less than a month and we weren’t in a committed relationship. She said I probably scared her away with my “intensity.” I personally didn’t agree with her because what was I supposed to do, wait six months and not say anything while getting more and more resentful?

    I have a friend that was involved with a guy that was doing kind of the same thing early on in the relationship, but rather than calling him on it, she just let it go on for 11 months at which time she wound up breaking up with him. She said she was hurting for six months after. If she would have talked to him about it from the get-go, she maybe would have never had to deal with six months of heart ache. What’s wrong with expressing your feelings if you feel uncomfortable about something even early on in your dating relationship? My Cappy stated that I was pressuring her and that “dating was supposed to be fun.” I agree, dating is supposed to be fun, if you both are on the same page. What does everybody think?

  368. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 3:03 am


    Patience is sexy on a man. I love men with “slow skills”, who will not give up, but they have to be the intensely contained type, the ones that make you feel like a million dollars because they act like they can wait another year, yet their hands are almost shaking when they look at you… But I think if she felt that way, if she was looking for that in you (you did mention you don’t mind “glacial slow”, that’s why I thought she may have picked that up on you); if she was just enjoying the slooow ride too much, you would have known, she would have shown signs of pleasure, that inaudible purr. There would be the ripple in the air, you would feel it is sexy for her that you’re patient. Unless, my friend, you’re completely oblivious to body language, and there’s no way to tell from a post. But if you didn’t feel her feeling you, and if there was no implicit fulfilment for you in the wait, you did the right thing.
    My sister is a Capricorn, she has these special dark glances over the shoulder that make men know she WANTS them not to give up – she’s quite good at it, and they get the message LOL.

    See, that’s what I’m talking about – most people would say she was playing games – I mean your Cappy now – (and she may have been, or been uninterested – no way to tell without body language) but there are people that this kind of thing is a dance for them, they need it in order to start feeling the sexual energies flow, or intensify them. I think there is a difference, and we should write some of the game playing that we love to hate on to the animal in us needing the dance in order to get aroused.
    But in your case, I think you did right. You would have known. And if she did want a dance, and you didn’t feel it, you weren’t fit for each other any way. No milk spilt;)

  369. gracie

    On August 10, 2009 at 3:34 am


    @ A Good Pisces: as a capricorn, I can tell you that we are very practical & slow to trust/open up. If you only knew her for less than a month, then I would say that it was too soon to jump in so quick. my ex pisces asked me to be his girlfriend on the 1st night! but, us capricorns we are more realists than anything. the reason she said “dating was supposed to be fun”, is because she probably felt that you were being too serious, leading to a disagreement. Maybe she will call you, my advice would be to keep things light at first. There’s alot going on inside of us, and we need to feel secure before we let you in on any of it, and 2-3 weeks isn’t enough time for us to have observed you throughly.

  370. gracie

    On August 10, 2009 at 3:42 am


    @Beauty Queen: I think it’s great that he still communicates with you & that you see some progress in his commitment issues towards you. There’s nothing special you need to do to please him at this point, you have done it all. Just hope that he takes notice of how much you love him, that’s all you can really do. My advice is that you don’t close yourself up to meeting other men, that you don’t push away anyone who tries. Live your life and if that pisces you so desperately love loves you back, then he will find a way to be with you. In the mean time do not settle for less. If a man smiles at you, smile back! Just try to start somewhere.

  371. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 9:09 am


    [the tigress presents Beauty Queen with a leather-bound journal to write long letters in that she'll never send;]

  372. Foxy Lady

    On August 10, 2009 at 11:13 am


    To a Good Pisces.
    I’m probably one of the few women on here who think you may have made a mistake. Don’t take these comments too personally as I am just trying to give you a different perspective, you know, from a woman’s point of view, regardless of sign.
    When you said you enjoyed her company and wanted to see her again, why did you say “call me”? That is a bit of a turn off for a woman because roughly translated it means “pursue me”. Although these days it seems to be a modern thing about women calling men etc but really, women still love to be actively pursued. It makes them feel special. It’s a part of the chase and adds to the excitement. You might wish she was easier to get like most other women but if she were, you probably wouldn’t value her so much. When the guy chases it means more fun, more passion, more intensity and allows a man to feel like a man when he wins her. It’s much more romantic. This may sound a bit old fashioned and I know it goes against the Pisces man’s basic personality in that you are passive and maybe a bit insecure, but the average woman still does like the man to chase. If she starts calling you in the beginning it sets a pattern in the relationship.
    Also, she obviously has a very full and active life especially being a single mother and isn’t sitting at the end of the phone waiting for you to call her or wondering if she should call you. That is a good thing because you will both cherish the times you do see each other and as the relationship progresses, then it would be more appropriate for her to set time aside to see you, but not when things are so new. Also the words maybe and perhaps are phrases we use when we aren’t sure of the response we are going to get, like testing the water and/or something you might say when you have to be non-commital when you have children to consider. Like it or not, they are and should be her first priority and it takes effort to sort out babysitters and be available. It’s not like being single. It’s damned hard work and tiring.
    When you were open in telling her that you were uncomfortable about the way she was acting or not acting, it immediately put up her defences. Reverse roles for a moment and imagine what it would be on the receiving end of such a statement, especially when you don’t really know each other well. I think you would be a bit taken back by this.
    I once read that a man has to spend time thinking about a woman in order to fall in love with her and although it is disappointing when dates are cut short etc, as long as there is a valid reason, you’ll look forward to seeing her even more the next time.

  373. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 11:47 am


    Beautiful lesson, Foxy Lady:) I agree. I just think if Good Pisces doesn’t feel any waves echoing back, it is either not the case, or their energy languages don’t translate.

    Good Pisces, you say: “Let the guy you are with know you like him and are into him.” Women don’t do that by calling a man, but by how they look at you, how their arms brushes yours — was there any of that??? When you say you two complement each other – is that like, “Oh, I like the Red Sox too”, or is it energy, warmth, does it tickle? (can’t believe I’m breaking it down like that. Sorry if it offends;)

  374. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 12:25 pm


    Tigress,

    I consider myself pretty astute when it comes to the vibes I get from people, but when the signals are mixed I really don’t know what to do. On one hand I want to run and on the other I want to get closer. Both reactions are because I feel vulnerable.

    Unlike the way some of you have described Pisces men as not sharing their feelings, I’m totally the opposite. I’m very open and transparent. Me and my Cappy held hands when we were walking from one club to another and it just felt great. I sent her a short e-mail the next morning that said “walking down the street holding hands with you is the most alive I have felt for a long time” and then I just put my name.

    When we were at the first club my Cappy sat across from me and then came over to sit next to me. We chatted a little and then I noticed that she moved her chair away from me. Those kinds of actions just throw me off. My philosophy has always been, I like you, you like me, let’s do something about it, but when people act that way it honestly just makes me anxious.
    If I felt more secure with her, I probably wouldn’t have told her that I was uncomfortable with her lack of committment when we tried planning our get togethers. But since she always seems to be at arms length, I really felt I needed to assert myself because I felt way to exposed. I really am attracted to her and don’t want to feel that way if it isn’t be resipricated.

    I didn’t actually break it off with her. I asked her what she thought and what she wanted to do as a way so that both are needs are being met. She was too defensive at that point, so I just stopped the conversation and told her that I hope she had a nice trip and then said goodbye. I really don’t know what I should do at this point and I really don’t understand why I care so much. I usually don’t get so attached to someone so soon.

  375. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 12:44 pm


    gracie,

    I wish I didn’t call her on her waffling, but honestly how long should a person put up with that until they are completely disempowering themselves? As I stated previously, my friend had the same thing happen early on in the relationship and didn’t say anything and eleven months later it totally imploded and she was really broken hearted. She wished now she had.

    I think sometimes that everyone thinks that a relationship just is what it is and they don’t have to work at it even during the dating/courtship phase. If you were with a guy that you really liked and he had this bad habit of talking on his cell during dinner all the time, wouldn’t you clue him in that you weren’t comfortable with his behavior? I don’t think that is being rude, I think it is being appropriatly assertive.

    I was doing everything (I believe I was anyway) that a guy is supposed to do when it comes to courting a woman. I was very consistent, followed through when it came to phone calls, behaved like a gentleman, never even hinted about sex, made it a point to make her feel special and desired, ect. All she needed to do was give something back. Even a “I really like your company” would have been nice. A Pisces man starves when he isn’t nurtured in some way. Subtle hints don’t do it at all, at least for me.

    She’s on week long trip and I don’t intend to call her when she gets back. I can’t leave myself that open. I think I made an impression with her, otherwise she would not have had conversations with me about her kids (who are in high school) and church. These are pointed questions that she initiated. If in fact that is true, that I did leave an impression, than she will call and hopefully we can be honest with each other and come up with some kind of solution so that both of are needs are met.

  376. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm


    Tigress,

    To answer your question, I felt we are compatible because we are so different. Her emotions run deep and mine run shallow. She’s very measured and reserved and I’m very open and transparent. If we could just meet in the middle on this issue I think we could develop a great relationship. We have basically the same core values.

    This is the first time in my life that I have been with a Cappy or a strong woman for that matter. I usually find myself drawn to Cancers and Virgos. I get along exceptionally well with both, but I often time find that the roles in our relationship are not in sync and it becomes somewhat co-dependant. (Me taking care of them) In this case I know that my Cappy does not need me, or at least that’s the way she comes across. She’s very strong, a survivor and quite assertive. I told her early on that I didn’t quite know what I was doing when it came to courting her because I’ve never dealt with a stong woman, but I believe that it would be emotionally healthier for me to do so.

    She looks at me like she likes me, but she also can be so short with me. She’s really not very tactful. It goes back to what I posted earlier about the mixed messages I get, which of course totally throw me off.

    I really don’t know what I should do about this woman. I want her to call when she gets back from her trip, yet at the same time I want her to disappear and stay out of my life.

  377. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:27 pm


    Seems to me like Foxy Lady had her finger on it. Cappy likes you enough to let you try to chase her, but if you won’t, she doesn’t like you. I uderstand that. I give both body signs and semi-poetic semi-sexy verbal encouragements but then I pull off to see if you have the guts to WANT me and risk your vanity. I don’t do it in purpose, or as a game, it’s instinctual, it’s what feels good. It makes the bloood sing if you pull me in when I push you away, it makes my knees week. It’s the animals inside doing the dance. What can you do?
    And if someone calls me on it i would definitely cool off, because it’s no fun, he’s spoiling the magic, it is a dance at this stage – what, you’re calling me on how I dance? No dancing for you then. Do I make sense?

  378. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:29 pm


    the knees – weak, sorry. [embarrassed]

  379. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:30 pm


    Foxy Lady,

    What I said was, “if you feel like getting together tomorrow call me.” I said that for two reasons. One, I was apprehensive that I would call and she would say no and two, I wanted her to take some responsibility in nurturing the relationship. It is obvious that I’m smitten with her. I’m very demonstrative. But it isn’t obvious from her end. It almost feels like she’s stringing me along, but there are things she says and does that demonstrate to me she is serious. The lack of consistency is why I called her on her behavior. It was my way of exerting some control. I told her that I really needed her to share the steering wheel, but she didn’t see the problem. Based on her reaction she just got defensive and is probably pissed and will not call and when she talks to her friends she will verbally throw me into the underserved catagory of Problematic Men.

    I’m not a hunter Foxy Lady. I’m not a cave man. I don’t believe in all this talk about pursuit and winning. I just believe in meeting someone who you click with and putting forth the simultanious effort, in an honest and sincere way, in getting to know them and see where it goes. If it does not work, than tell them honestly and openly that you would like to be friends because you don’t feel that the relationship has potential for anything else. That’s the way I date. I don’t have the time or inclination to chase people.

    I’m not passive in the least. I’m actually very assertive. However, I am very sensitive and insecure in some ways, mainly when it comes to how women view me.

    If this Cappy called me it would make me readily responsive. If someone is nice and kind to me, I give it back two fold. If they are mean and unkind to me, I also give it back two fold. That’s the way I operate. That’s how I am wired.

    I respectfully disagree that she does not need to set aside time to see me. I may not be a single mom with two kids, but I’m a single man with his own set of responsibilities, but I always carve out time so we can get together. That’s what you do if you like somebody and want to get to know them.

    There should be no reason to use “maybe” and “perhaps” when she knows that I want to see her. If she only could fatham what she could have with me if she just said, “I’d like to see you. Can you meet at Starbucks at 6:00.” I know it’s wrong to project ones wishes upon another, but is it really asking too much to just be specific?

    Her kids are high school age. If they were little, I would totally agree with you, but we all know what teenagers are like. They are into their own thing. She should have to problem getting away for an hour or two – if she really wanted to.

    I believe she was taken aback by my concern based on her reaction, but there was no way I could drag this on for weeks. I’m not sure how a woman can expect a man to want to go forward in a relationship when they can’t set aside time during the week (even if it was once a week I wouldn’t care as long as there was a specific time) to get together.

    I’m actually scared to see her again because I don’t feel secure around her. I know that’s my reaction to her, not her doing it to me, but the feeling in my stomach is the same and it’s not enjoyable.

  380. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 1:38 pm


    In nature that dance ensures that the female will get to carry the genetic material of the strongest/bravest male and shake off the weaker males, you know all that… And yes, with us walking on two feet and sliding our opposable thumb on an iPhone, the criteria for what makes a good partner have changed, but — our instincts are too slow to catch up;/
    That’s is the crux of why we are here, people. The irony…

  381. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 2:38 pm


    Tigress,

    I understand your analagy, but a true dance can only happen if you are dancing to the same music. If I’m dancing to Hip Hop and my partner is dancing Salsa, we are responding to two different types of music and we will be forever out of sync.

    I didn’t spoil the dance, I merely tried to get her to switch the music so we could dance togather. However, as long as she is insistent on dancing to her own tune, I won’t be sharing the dance floor with her.

  382. LeoLeoAqua

    On August 10, 2009 at 3:57 pm


    Okay, well my Pisces guy dumped me via an email!!! Yep, thats right, email. Said he only emailed cause he finally has something to say after a month and we were both working. Used the whole, Im dragging you down, you deserve better line, I want you to move on and be happy, its not fair for me to drag u down with me. If its meant to be it will be (said that 4 times in the email). Of course I got upset that he would do that via email and pretty much told him it wasnt his right to decide what I DESERVED, that was my right & if he knew what I deseved he would have known I deserved a phone call. That the whole you deserve better thing was BS! I pretty much told him it was a cowardly way out. He said he would call me later, but I told him not to bother… he wanted out so he got his wish. Then I told him I was just mad & hurt and loved him so Id understand whatever he wanted. Still never got a phone call but got a text the next day saying he didnt call last night bcause he was still frustrated, he would call later… NOTHING. Then Sat morn, I texted asking what I did deserved of being ignored and not getting at least a phone call made me feel like I never meant crap. He responded with I dont feel like talking to you, you called me a coward and I dont appreciate it!!! OMG!!! LOL!!! So, then I told him that we couldve done this more repectfully that I didnt want us to hate one another but that is where it appears to be heading. He said I will never hate you I will always love you, I am just sorry I am a coward… I will call you when I am not so mad and will not say things I will regret. STILL NOTHING. He went to a party Sat nite and told a mutual friend that he couldnt give me what I wanted and that I was bugging him all the time by texting, calling, etc…. (I havent called or texted him first since Tuesday, he was texting me other than my exchange on Sat)….. said he was done with it and he told me to move on by email.. when his friend was like… dude not cool… he said yeah she called me a coward. So, when I got wind of that… I disconnected, deleted his info, got rid of all the pics in my house, etc. I never heard anything on Sunday and didnt expect to ever again. This morning I got a text from him “Good Morning! How are you today?” I deleted it and didnt respond.

    Why does he keep contacting me, but will NOT call me and be respectful of the fact that I should have at least deserved a phone call? Why does he text at all if he is “done with it”. He had pics of another girl on his phone, even though his friend admits that he doesnt think its a girl he has been with yet, but obviously its headed that direction. Why wont he just leave me the hell alone. He knows how much I loved him, I told him that even after the “dumping email”.

    Geez, u guys are so complicated.

  383. Good Pisces

    On August 10, 2009 at 4:04 pm


    LeoLeoAqua,

    I’m very sorry he did that to you. It’s him, not his sign. As a man it embarrasses me to no end when men behave this way because the next time around you’re going to remember what he did and if a guy like me comes around he’ll be paying for the behavior of another.

    All I can say is that relationships in general are hard. I wish they were simpler. I wish people didn’t get hurt. I’m sorry that you in particular wre hurt. ) :

  384. Foxy Lady

    On August 10, 2009 at 4:13 pm


    Good Pisces. You can\’t desire something you already have. Imagine you went to the cinema to watch a rom com, typically there are obstacles in the way and everything possible goes wrong but in the end the guy gets his girl and they live happily ever after. If it went man meets woman, fall in love the end that would be boring wouldn\’t it and nobody would watch it. I think you are focusing too much on the destination and not enjoying the ride.
    You can\’t rush a relationship because of your own sense of a deadline. However, I do understand you must make your own decisions about what is most important to you, regardless of whether she participates. You seem to have taken umbridge over the fact that you are smitten and she seems not to be. Not everyone moves at the same pace. You need to do a little more wooing in order to move this forward, even if it feels a little unnatural.
    It\’s very interesting to read your story and to understand the thought processes of the Pisces man. Thank you.

  385. LeoLeoAqua

    On August 10, 2009 at 4:21 pm


    @ Good Pisces:
    Thank you for your concern and your insight into the Pisces male. I just dont get why he is continuing to text me… esp since he told his friend that I WAS DRIVING HIM CRAZY with all the messages…. which I wasnt btw! It infuriates me. I wanted to be friends with him because I deeply care for him, but I dont feel like he even deserves my friendship now. I am sure by me ignoring his text today, he will find a way in his twisted little mind to make that another put off onto me…. he tried to contact me but I ignored him… blah blah blah. I just think at this point, its the best course of action. How am I today????…. Wouldnt you like to know!? Suck on that A-hole!! LOL!!

  386. the tigress

    On August 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm


    {{{{{{{{{ LeoLeo Aqua }}}}}}}}}}}

    (that’s a hug)

  387. the tigress

    On August 11, 2009 at 9:09 am


    I hope it is clear that I do like our beloved Pisces Guy. People, I am the tigress after all, my tongue can sand the skin off you when I like you!
    And, Pisces guy, you don’t have to stop the subliminals. I’ll just take my oxytocin blockers before I read your posts;)

  388. LeoLeoAqua

    On August 11, 2009 at 10:19 am


    @ the tigress

    Aw, thanks for the hug!!!! I needed it!!!

  389. the tigress

    On August 11, 2009 at 11:27 am


    Just to give u a measure of what I mean by “initial intensity” and “deep” – I have lost 8 pounds in the last week… I have to force myself to chew and swallow. And it’s not the pisces man’s fault, it’s how I AM. And looking at the circles under his eyes, I know I am doing the same to him.

  390. Good Pisces

    On August 11, 2009 at 12:53 pm


    After some real serious thinking, I came to the conclusion that I rushed things and over stepped my bounds. The reality is that my Cappy and I are dating and are not in a relationship. Therefore, I shouldn’t have any expectations of her. What I said to her was honest, but out of line taking in consideration the newness of our relationship. I want to fix this and get things back to normal. She is coming back from her trip in a week. I thought I’d wait a couple of weeks more and send her a hand written letter apologizing for my behavior and letting her know what is going on inside my head. I would like to get some feedback on what I’m doing because frankly I don’t know how to handle a woman who is emotionally stronger than me. I want to be honest, but I don’t want to sound like a girlie man. This is my draft.

    Dear Cappy, (obviously she has a name. I don’t call her Cappy)

    I hope you and your family had a nice trip.

    I’ve been thinking about you a lot and the last conversation we had. I realize that I overstepped my bounds and made you feel uncomfortable with my comments. You are right. Dating is supposed to be fun. We aren’t in a relationship and I had no right to expect anything of you. I was being selfish. I was wrong and I take responsibility for it.

    I think that was my way of kind of pushing you back because I don’t feel like I’m in control. I’ve never been in a situation where I’m dating someone who is emotionally stronger than me. And frankly, it makes me feel very exposed and vulnerable. I don’t want to run away from you. I know that in the past I have always dated needy women because I can take care of them. It’s my way of being in control and I realize it isn’t healthy.

    I like you. I want to date you and see where things go. I hope that you feel the same way. Please be patient with me. My heart is in the right place. I just need some time to adjust.

    I found out that I’m able to get my furlough days off on Fridays. Since you are off on Fridays too I was thinking that, if schedules allow, that can be our day of the week to see each other.

    I’ll call you later on in the week.

    Good Pisces

    Constructive feedback is appreciated.

  391. the tigress

    On August 11, 2009 at 2:23 pm


    Again you’re asking her to commit – lose the Fridays thing;) And put in something fun, some reference to something she did that you find delicious… Excite her… Don’t sketch out plans like this and demand her confirmation in what will be your first contact after weeks! Say something where she has to wonder for a moment what you’re saying and then be like, ah. You need to learn how to be SUGGESTIVE, that’s how you throw a rope across a boundary and if she catches it, you climb over, but if not, you haven’t exposed yourself so much that you’re hurt. Subtlety, suggestiveness and a SENSE OF HUMOR help A LOT in these initial stages, that’s part of what it means to have fun – don’t ask her to make up her mind, be bold, throw ropes, catch what she throws back at you, inspect it for double meanings. You are too serious, brother, you need to relax;) She doesn’t know if she wants to date you yet! She wants to date a man who is brave (and hard;) enough to want her and not be so scared of exposing himself. Otherwise, if she relents at this stage, later she’ll find herself in a situation where she needs you to be strong and initiate a move, and the way you are, you won’t, and you’ll both be hurt. More than now. I think that’s why she’s doing this – it’s her TEST to see if you got what it takes. Do you? Good luck!

  392. the tigress

    On August 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm


    You’re a sweet man, I hope that wasn’t too destructive a criticism;) I am short with you like you say she is short with you – to see if you can take it;)

  393. Good Pisces

    On August 11, 2009 at 2:37 pm


    I can take it, but that does not mean I like it. ( ;

  394. Good Pisces

    On August 11, 2009 at 2:46 pm


    Tigress,

    I like the way you express yourself. You have an interesting way of delving into the emotions that drive us. Scorps are supposed to be a good sign for Pisces, but based on your post I can see why I have never been able to connect well with a female Scorp in a romantic relationship. You behave just like the Pisces that everyone here complains about. If I was a typical Pisces I probably would be able to go head to head with someone like you, but since I’m not I would probably run away. You’d made a good friend, however, and I do appreciate that you’ve taken the time to help me as I’m really out of my element. It’s appreciated. ( :

  395. gracie

    On August 11, 2009 at 3:41 pm


    @ Good Pisces: ok here’s my mere opinion. I would not do the letter thing. I say just ask her out again, take it from there, relax & show her a good time without the serious talks. The whole letter things is like once again serious & admitting there’s something wrong. If she likes you, she will go out with you again, when you see her let by gones stay in the past & start fresh. If she accepts, this will also allow you to see whether or not she has actually thought of you or missed you!

  396. Good Pisces

    On August 11, 2009 at 4:18 pm


    gracie,

    I understand what you are saying, but don’t you think that addressing the mistake first will make things easier for the both of us? It seems to me that just pretending that nothing happened is going to make her wonder if perhaps I’m a bit unstable emotionally and therefore not someone she can be close to and trust. I do want her to understand where I\’m at so that she has a better understanding of what is going on in my head. This really is a difficult position to be in for someone who always has been the one in control. It seems that I should clear the air a bit so that we can start anew and have a better understanding of each other and from that point forward just have fun and see where things go.

    If I don’t send a letter, wait three weeks and just ask her out, and she says no, I would wonder if it was because she was turned off by what I said and worst that I never dealt with it. It makes it seem that I’m a poor communicator.

  397. the tigress

    On August 11, 2009 at 5:27 pm


    Do all that – clearing the air, showing you were wrong – with some light-hearted joke, not with a serious job-application letter. You can be a good communicator without handing her a contract;) Gracie’s right. Pick up on something she said when u two connected and twist it around. If u were at the beach picking shells – text her about all these lonely shells longing to be picked by her fingers… If she told u she doesn’t like ur white socks, say something like dang, all those white socks manufacturers have gone out of business (not in a text, that;). Bad example, but you get what i mean? Make her laugh and feel tender… If u can, of course.
    Bout me being like a bad pisces, yeah thanks… but i still hurt like crazy, that’s what I’m trying to tell you, it’s not always games. something is wired to want love to be intense. But I have really gotten better at easing people into and out of my world and staying friends… Most of my exes, I am like a mom or an older sister to them…. they still call me when the going gets tough, for a few words from me like a vitamin B12 shot – and they’re off to handle life better … that says something, i hope.

  398. Good Pisces

    On August 11, 2009 at 5:58 pm


    Tigress,

    I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. I wasn’t implying that you were a bad anything, just that you seem to have a lot of similar qualities that the………..eh……..other Pisces has. And because I’m the………I guess……….rarer Pisces…now I have a better idea why I don’t get along well with female Scorpios – unless of course they are just friends. One of my closest friends, who is like a sister to me, is a Scorp.

    I’m sure that outside the cyber world we would be great friends because you would keep me in line with your honesty. ( ;

    So you agree with gracie, that handwriting a letter, even if it’s light in tone, and skips the I’m Free Friday isn’t a good idea? The opinon of all of you is important because you are female and see the world through much different eyes than I do. I value what you have to say.

  399. gracie

    On August 11, 2009 at 6:47 pm


    @Good Pisces: I agree with you that clearing the air & communication is important. Express yourself in person, you can ease the mood by taking her to a nice restaurant & ordering a glass of wine (liquor is a great relaxer…I always have a glass when i’m meeting someone to ease the tension & seriousness.) then begin talking to her about how you didn’t mean to come on strong & say something like “i would love to continue getting to know one another, I think you’re a great woman.” you really don’t have to say much, once she has accepted to see you, then you can go from there because it means you still have a chance. And call her, don’t text or wait 3 wks. just get the courage & pick up the phone, leave a message saying you would like to see her again if it’s ok with her. Remember though…don’t go too much into detail about how out of control you feel…etc. make a clear statement & dedicate the rest of the night enjoying it on a lighter side. If she does not call you back or answer your call when you call back(do) then I would defiantely wait until it is HER to make the second move.

  400. Foxy Lady

    On August 12, 2009 at 10:07 am


    I agree with the other ladies here, that you don’t have to go into detail about it, it’s like reliving the whole thing and making an issue out of it. Just call her up when she gets back and say something like “Hi, hope you had a good trip, sorry I was a bit of a grouch last time we spoke, you’re right, dating is supposed to be fun, would you like to have dinner or something?” If she says yes then go and have fun and don’t have any serious talks. Keep it light. By the way, I wouldn’t leave it too long as she knows you know when she is getting back and she may think you don’t give a damn if you just call her up three weeks later! You know, if she felt any kind of attraction to you, she’s probably been thinking about your conversation alot. When we calm down, we women tend to replay things in our minds looking at it this way and that, trying to see it from another point of view etc. She might be relieved you called.

  401. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 10:15 am


    @Good Pisces – no hurt feelings, just wanted to explain I am extremely aware of the dangers in me and providing all sorts of warning labels and hot packs and life jackets;) But I can’t just lock myself in a closet, you know what I mean. So I think we CAN use these things to go places. And I truly, deeply love watching people grow and evolve and get stronger. That is why we are here, not for some desperate grabs at illusions of power. I mean it.

  402. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 10:34 am


    Oh yes! My vote’s for not waiting that extra two weeks too. I thought of that and then forgot to put it in my post. That wait would be a TOTAL turn off if I were her (and you may torture yourself thinking so hard these two weeks, that it will be beyond keeping it light at that point). And she may really move on by then. I think she hopes to see some passion and strength in you. Even if you are weaker emotionally (what does that MEAN, by the way?) don’t advertise it. No woman likes to be told that, even if she sees it. We want the illusion that you CAN and WANT TO take care of us… you know what I mean?

  403. Good Pisces

    On August 12, 2009 at 12:03 pm


    One thing I find very interesting is the difference of opinion on how I handled my Cappy from the women here on the board vs. my real life friends. Why do you think that is?

    Pretty much hands down everyone here on the board feels that I rushed things and came on too strong. But every one of my female friends said that I played it right. That even though I am only dating my Cappy, the truth of the matter is that she is not showing me a lot of respect by doing what she is doing. I spoke with two friends last night and they felt that my Cappy was “selfish” and “emotionally unavailable.” That if I never said anything she would continue to behave the same way and I would just get more and more frustrated and resentful.

    To give you a solid example, on our first date my Cappy told me on a Saturday about dinner Sunday, “I’m not sure. I’ll let you know tomorrow.” On Sunday, she called me at 3:30 and told me she wasn’t able to make it. Of course, that just left me completely hanging. Would any of you put up with a man doing that to you? Especially on going? Would you just let him do whatever because you were dating and it was supposed to be “light and fun?” Please answer me honestly.

    The number one complaint I read here is that Pisces men shut down and don’t communicate. I’m, for the lack of a better term, am a “Good Pisces” and I’m exceptionally open and transparent. I communicate everything. I felt I needed to say something to my Cappy about her behavior; let her know that I found the way she was treating me wasn’t something I would tolerate. Yet, pretty much everyone here felt I had crossed the line. Yet, in essense I was only communicating my feelings. A form of expression that is seriously lacking in most of the relationships I have read here.

    Part of me does feel awkward because confrontations are never fun and you never know how the person is going to react even if you have a reason. And in this case my Cappy got defensive. But since communication is key in any relationship, from the get go two people dating should be practicing their communication skills because if they can’t agree to disagree while they are dating, how are they going to deal with disagreements if they get together?

    I decided that I’m going to handle it this way. My Cappy comes back on Sunday. I’m going to contact her Wednesday. I’ve never texted her because until yesterday I didn’t have texting on my phone. I’m going to send her a text saying, “Missed you. Hope you had a great trip. Would enjoy talking about it over a glass of wine” and see what she does.

    If she responds then we’ll go out and have fun. Knowing her I’m sure she will mention the phone call and I will keep it short and light and tell her that I can’t hang with someone telling me, “Perhaps tomorrow…..” “Maybe tomorrow….” and than cancelling. However, I can handle, “Tomorrow I’ll be at the gym until 7:00, but how about if we hook up for a late dinner at 9:00″ or “Tomorrow isn’t going to work, but how about Thursday after I’m off work around 5:00. I can squeeze in an hour and it would be nice to see you” If she isn’t capable of doing this, than I am definitily with the wrong woman.

    If she does not respond, than I’m done and I would probably write her a brief closure e-mail, more for me than for her.

    There is just no way I could continue in a relationship where I’m basically being led by a leash. It’s very disempowering. If we can’t walk together than we won’t walk at all.

  404. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 12:53 pm


    I did not feel you crossed a line with her, as much as- if you remember my fist post – that she is looking for something that you are either too shy to give, or can’t give. Like… for a lack of a better term, “claiming her”. If you didn’t make her feel “claimed” with energy and actions and vibe – then it’s natural she’d be waffling (and I agree it wasn’t very respectful, yes – but hey. Maybe she wanted to push you?), and I think most of the ladies here wanted to “game you up” – since we all have had a soft spot for Pisces at one time or another;) – to help you get a better start, another chance at being with her when you can be more assertive. But if you can’t/won’t do it because it feels fake or beyond who you are, then I think you did right the first time – you expressed who you are and what you want. Yet my feeling is she doesn’t like that “you”. And that is okay, it ideally shouldn’t affect you, you are precious and worthy of all the love in the world the way you are. You should know that! (look at all the love you got here:) But if there is another “you” in that fishbowl of yours that you can dig out and step up the “emotional strength” factor, look for it now. Some a little more self-assured and even reckless self that has been waiting for a chance to be challenged to come out and play? If yes, let it out, unleash it. If not, you did the right thing with that remark. You expressed the limits of who you are, and were fair to both her and yourself, and I honor that. The “bad examples” of texting and being romantic I was giving you to see if it will catch on;) People sometimes have certain potential in them that has never been tapped, and they learn very fast, and discover they had that in them, if only someone explains it right. I never meant to twist your arm into being or doing something you aren’t. Sorry if it came across that way. And maybe your real life friends know something we don’t;)

    I like your new plan, by the way. I think a text will make it easier on you in that first contact, a phone call might tempt you again to explain something she doesn’t want to hear. And yes – get a drink in you before talking to her, if she agrees to come.
    And it’s not the end of the world if this doesn’t work out. Look how much you’ve learned (you got text on your phone! Congratulations, welcome to the world of romance and hotness;))
    (btw, my rising sign is aries, that makes me not your usual mega secretive scorp)

    You know, every time I mess something up and end up hurting, I have this joke-mantra to comfort myself – “that was just a rehearsal for next time, when it will really be important that I get it right.” Hope it helps.

  405. Good Pisces

    On August 12, 2009 at 1:46 pm


    Tigress,

    I’m more assertive than I may be coming across. I don’t know if this qualifies, but when we were at the jazz club she attempted to pay for her wine and I told her, “When you are with me, you don’t pay for anything.” She gave me a smile and said, “Thank you.”…..

    She knows I’m into her. She’s just being a little pill. ( :

  406. Foxy Lady

    On August 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm


    Good Pisces – I love the way you dissect and analize everything that people say. The Pisces guy I’m into does exactly the same. The reason you are getting two different opinions is that your female friends are biased and will only see things from your perspective. It’s nice to have their support but I think it’s important to get an outsiders point of view. This woman seems to have really gotten under your skin. Being a Scorpio myself, I always rise to the challenge and stick with it until I get the outcome I desire, no matter what. I hope you don’t mind my asking but, I am interested to know – if you are having problems at this early stage – what drives you to try and make this work when there are probably lots of other women out there to choose from. What is so special about this girl? I know you guys tend to fall in love easily, so when you say you are smitten or are really into her, does that mean you are actually in love with her?

    Also, I was wondering if it’s true that when in love, do Pisces men remember every little interaction they have with you?

  407. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 5:41 pm


    Foxy Lady: My experience is, Yes, If he’s in love. He remembers EVERYTHING. And given a chance, he’ll bring up every tender detail to taunt you with how much he’s been thinking of you.
    I like that thing you read somewhere – that a man needs to spend some time thinking about a woman to fall in love. I think it’s especially true in this case.

  408. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 5:51 pm


    Good Pisces: No, I won’t stand that kind of treatment, but I am a woman. Depends on how badly you want something, hon. That’s what it comes down to. Because, looking back, I think I have done that to people, when I was younger, and some of them, if they just kept at it long enough, with that “i will melt you just by looking at you for a million years” rock-like patience you pisces have – I must say they have gotten my attention and enjoyed it, a lot, if they stuck it out. But you’re not even that moved by this woman, it’s like she’s a step in your self-improvement plan. She must be feeling that, it might be the problem here. It’s not true that she has to make certain steps for you or reciprocate for you to fall in love, I totally disagree. You don’t seem to be really into her for what she is, but for what she could do for your character. I don’t know if that is such a good idea. Hope I’m not being harsh;)

  409. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 8:04 pm


    What I was trying to say with “she doesn’t need to reciprocate for you to fall in love” is – some women need you to be in love or very near it, in a deep crush, for them to open up – I know I am like that, (my sister who is a Capricorn is like that) – hot women in general are like that. If the man courting me has something about them and I find them sexy and charming, but I’m not sure I want them yet, I don’t reciprocate. I’ll drop a “honey” or a smile here and there, to show them I find them cute, but not much more. If they find me worth it, they’ll try again, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HELP IT! And they often do. They’ll figure out ways, find out little things about me and use them to please me, show me they are thinking about me. And then, when I do open up, it’s SO worth it… It’s not like the whole relationship will be marred or imbalanced by the fact that you chased me for a year – on the contrary, a woman needs that time put in so she can make you feel like a million bucks.. But you seem to look at it as some kind of transaction. Some women whose first priority in a relationship is security will go for that, but most of us don’t – we want passion first, then security. So don’t call a woman selfish, etc, just because she wants something more. And I think I’ll stop here because this really is too much advice and not helping. Some things apparently can’t be explained. Good luck.

  410. gracie

    On August 12, 2009 at 9:09 pm


    @ Good Pisces: I really think that you should just speak to her in person, and if she asks questions about what happend or initiated some kind of explanation, then go ahead & bring it out. Other than that I think it’s best to just ask her out & show her a good time, let her guide the evening to see how her mood is & where she is at about you. The best thing you can do in my opinion is make it about her (since you are concerned about how you approached her.). Like listen to what she has to say & just listen, then you come in to express your thoughts & emotions. This is a way of making her feel like she really matters to you & make her feel special..brownie points for you* I just wouldn’t go in there stating, “I,I,I..” you know. And don’t wait to call, those ARE games. Just call & ask her out again, hope she’s ok & had a good trip-by doing this, you won’t have to tell her you’re confident, your actions alone will radiate that!

  411. the tigress

    On August 12, 2009 at 10:58 pm


    Good Pisces: You are cute as a button when you are mad;) I finally got a true glimpse of you in this last posting… Yes, “a poetic journey of the senses”, [sigh]. Some people can’t get intimate without those, and they can only begin a relationship – stable or unstable – from there. I guess I wish all men would learn how to be romantic so we the journey of the senses junkies don’t have to fall prey to the players… And I see your point. And thank God, there are many kinds of people. I am glad you and I are different. I hope she lets you drink milk out of the carton;)

    [the tigress makes Good PIsces a sandwich]

  412. Good Pisces

    On August 13, 2009 at 2:29 am


    I’m cute as a button all the time tigress ( ;

    I don’t think you realize how romantic I can be if the environment is conducive to it. I love to love people, men and women. My capacity to care and love is much different than the Bad Pisces, because it is based on who and what I am, not a tool of manipulation.
    I sent one of my closest female friends a text today telling her I loved her. Just because. She makes it so easy to be good and kind to her because of the way she conducts herself. She very nurturing and treats me with such respect and care, but also keeps me grounded and real. She’s an incredible friend and I would take a bullet for her. I’m blessed to have people like her in my life.
    You have no idea the reservoir of love that lurks within me, but I will not let anyone swim in its depths or drink of it’s cool, waters to sooth their parched emotional soul, when they haven’t earned it. The women in my life who have had the opportunity to immerse themselves in who I truly am have done so by virtue of their openess and honesty, an emotional stage dive, not their dance. The dancers invariably find themselves a new partner because their reality is much different than mine. They find their refuge in an illusion that frequently bucks head long into reality.
    If anything my dear friend, you should be wary of the dancers because they manipulate, hijack and ultimately destroy their partner. How many women have fallen prey to a dancer on this board? They counter your moves, they joust, they nip at your neck, you give them the look, they jump back, you move forward, you relent, they pounce, they eat you and than they leave you because all they wanted was the dance. And the cycle repeats itself over and over and over again. The dancer looks for another partner because she still loves the intensity of the dance, but it erodes her soul like poison, slowly killing her essence a little bit at a time. But she does not see, or chooses not to see it, because the dance is like emotional crack and she can’t break out of the additive cycle even though she knows on some level she’s burying her soul in the process.
    I don’t do any of the above. I just give my love to the person who has earned it by freely and unconditionally letting me into their life and exposing themselves the same way I’ve exposed myself to them. Completely honest and open. Emotional rawness.
    If my Cappy could intrinsically understand this, I’m sure the choices she has been making would be much different as would my reactions. (She’s making me dance with strings when I just want to give) However, I can only show by example (my own open, consistent behavior) and it’s up to my partner to do the rest.
    Alas, most people don’t understand until it’s too late and all they are left with is the visage of my tail as it swims away.

    P.S. Thank you for the sandwich. You remembered I love turkey. You are a dear. ( :

  413. gracie

    On August 13, 2009 at 3:49 pm


    @ Good Pisces: in my case the pisces guy i was dating was really into me. he had me around all his friends doing guy stuff & texted me like crazy until he would see me-he asked to see me every other day if not everday-really touchy & clingy. on our first falling out he promised to meet me half way, i mean we didn’t argue we just discussed things & he was so afraid i would leave him or never speak to him again. after that talk, when all was well & we spoke, he became distant & that was the end of it. what do u think? just wondering. and what are u going to do regarding the cappy you like?

  414. Good Pisces

    On August 13, 2009 at 5:07 pm


    Hi gracie,

    I wish guys would just behave themselves. Honestly, I can’t get my head around the fact that a man can get that crazy about a woman and than turn off like that. It’s bizarre. He should be slapped across the head a few times and than someone should tatoo the words, “BAD PISCES” on his forehead….. As a man I’m embarrassed that guys behave this way. It just makes things that much harder for guys like me to connect with someone because women who’ve been burned too many times have this tendency of lumping all guys into the same camp. It’s like being guilty by association. Sometimes I wish I could change into another third gender not affiliated in any way with males, but still capable of dating females.

    I have that kind of personality too. I get excited because it’s such an awesome feeling to connect with someone and you just want to see them. But I’m the opposite of all the goofy Bad Pisces guys. I just keep going. Being in a good relationship is awesome. I don’t understand why anyone would want it to end if there is nothing wrong with it. It’s non-sensicle.

    I was happily married to a Virgo for 7 years. We had a marriage made in heaven and then she left me over the fact that I didn’t want to have kids even though I told her beforehand not to marry me thinking that she could convince me to have kids later on down the road. If that didn’t happen, I’d still be married. And just so you know, we hooked up the way I like to meet someone, except we were forced to go slow because she lived very far. However, I approached it the same way.

    You seem like you are a very kind and sincere woman so I’m clueless why a guy would turn on you like that. If a man is not interested than they should do what I do and that is to have a heart to heart talk telling the person you have been dating that you enjoy their company, but you don’t see anything developing romantically, but you’d like to stay friends. That’s the decent thing to do. It’s gutless for a man, or a woman for that matter, to end any type of relationship with the silent treatment; drifting away like puff of smoke. It’s unfair to the person they were seeing; whatever the level. It’s almost par for the course nowadays, but I refuse to behave that way.

    If the person has an issue with something you have said or done, it’s important to tell you. You aren’t a mind reader nor should you be expected to be. People are always going on about communication, how important it is. But I’ve noticed something. People seem to only communicate when it’s something they are comfortable hearing. Otherwise, they get angry and defensive and shut down. These are the same people who drift away after they are confronted with something, and then will tell their friends what a jerk so and so was, when the problem was that they chose not to listen because they were being stubborn, had no insight, or had the pollyanna attitude that if the person they are dating expresses their feelings in a way that they don’t find comfortable than that person couldn’t possibly be right for them. It’s a wonder anybody gets together nowadays. It’s sad.

    People can say what they want, but I told my Cappy my truth in an open, honest way and told her point blank that I wanted to work WITH her so that both of our needs are getting met. That isn’t wrong. That’s communicating. If we can’t do it now, we will never be able to do it. Her reaction was “I’m not comfortable with what you’re saying” and “dating is supposed to be fun.” Now things are a mess. Or they seem to be anyway. We’ll see later. I go back and forth with this. I felt like I did the right thing, then I started missing her a bunch and felt like I did the wrong thing, and now I’m feeling like I did the right thing – but I’m still missing her. And no, this isn’t residual Bad Pisces vasillation. It’s my fault for coming to this board and then listening to the opinion of my non-cyber friends. lol.

    I’m going to text her Wednesday. That I missed her, hope she had a nice trip and that it would be fun to talk about it over a glass of wine. I hope she responds favorably. If she does not I might let a few days go by and try again. I’m not that proud. If she does not respond then than I’ll send her a brief e-mail explaining myself and letting her know that I apologize if what I said upset her and if she is willing to meet me half way, I would be glad to continue getting to know her. And than I will swim away.

  415. gracie

    On August 13, 2009 at 6:12 pm


    @Good Pisces: that sounds like a good plan to me!

  416. Pony

    On August 14, 2009 at 11:12 am


    I am glad that I have found this site..at least if I shared my story a lot of people will understand me. Ofcourse my story is about a pisces..would else would it be :) I met him a year ago and ofcourse there was a weird chemistry..I was still out of a divorce after a 15 years marraige & he was still out of a relation total of 7 years 2 of them engagement.Story short because my story is very close to a lot over here. He moved to another state…but that did not make any difference in the relation. The strange thing about him is that all his communication was texting.He can stay for hours texting everyday but never calls. I do not think that he was cheating on me(i.e somebody else living with him) because he was not even over with the issues with his ex (financially..arrguments etc) & he was really stressed about the issue. My problem is I came to the point that I felt he is not emotionally available…whenever we get close he pulls away for a week & then back. So I wrote him an email telling him that I can’t take that anymore & that I do not undrestand how he feels towards me. He did not respond…I stopped talking to him for about 2 months then I missed him & text him, he was very excited & stayed for a week begging that I would go visit..so I booked my ticket. A week later I txt him saying that I do want him to make me miss him so much again because I tend to a reverse action that makes me move on & forget him. So he text back laughing…then he stayed 10 days with nothing, I txt asking if he was ok, he txt back saying he was just busy..then all of a sudden & one day before my visit he said that maybe it is better that we stop talking..& that he was trying to be nice but I said that I do not want to see him anymore & he does not think that it is healthy to have good time & be angry (he was so rude) and as a matter of fact I was too.
    Ofcourse I told him it would be a great idea…etc.
    The following day I felt that I might have hurted him & I stayed explaining all day (through txt msg) that I left him because I was missing him so much…ofcourse I got no respond !!! I begged him to allow me go see him….but nothing.
    I just feel that he did a trap for me, I mean I booked my flight ticket, I packed, took vacation from work, bought him stuff, counted the days to go see him…etc & then all of a sudden “Gone” ??? I just feel soo humilated.
    I just feel so bad…Does anyone have anything to say to me ? I will truly appreciate it !

  417. Good Pisces

    On August 14, 2009 at 12:01 pm


    Another Bad Pisces man. Maybe the Bad Pisces should be quaranteened so that the Good Pisces among the bretheren could flourish.

    I’m sorry Pony that you have to deal with such asinine behavior. This is one of the many stories of on this board where Bad Pisces men do Bad Pisces things. And honestly, it’s as embarrassing as ever hearing about it……

    Cut your losses and just let it go. He’s abviously an emotionally sick individual.

  418. Pony

    On August 14, 2009 at 12:16 pm


    Thank u Good Pisces for ur nice words..I just feel so bad about myself. I do not understand the attitude ? Was he paying me back ? Have I really hurted him & he thought the best idea is to walk away because he said it….U come stay with me..we have a good time & then u disappear. But I already explained myself. What else would I do ?

  419. Good Pisces

    On August 14, 2009 at 12:56 pm


    You didn’t do anything wrong. This has nothing to do with you and everything to do with him. The next time you meet a man that happens to be a Pisces. Do the Good Pisces test, so you don’t wind up with a Bad Pisces. In case you did not know there are two kinds. The listless dreamer who flows through life like a tendril of smoke, can’t manage money, does not express his feelings very well, is always trying to find himself, is very hot/cold, has a history of unstability in his job, relationships and life in general. The other kind of Pisces is the Good Pisces. He is creative and imaginative, but he makes his dreams come true because he works for them. He has a history of stability i.e. has a career, is a professional, has been employeed long term, has a history of long term relationships.
    Sometimes it is hard to differentiate between the two because both types of Pisces are deep, profound thinkers, smart, feel things deeply, are passionate and are very sensitive. However, if you ask the right questions you will never get stuck with a Bad Pisces again.
    If you date a Pisces in the future get the following information:
    1. Where do you work and how long have you been there?
    2. What do you want out of life?
    3. What’s the longest relationship you have ever been in and what caused the breakup?
    4. Where do you live and how long have you lived there?
    5. How important is money to you?
    6. What kind of work do you do?

    1. A guy that answers something like, “I’m in between jobs” “I quit my job because my boss/co-worker was a jerk” “Six months and my last job was two years” “I’m a free spirit and really don’t believe in work” Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    2. A guy that answers something like, “I just want to have a good time” “I want to experience life on my terms” “I want to travel the world back packing” “I don’t know. I’m still looking for who I am.” Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    3. A guy that answers something like, “One year, she just didn’t get me.” “I haven’t found the Perfect Woman or The Right Person” “Six months” “I have a hard time getting involved because I’ve been hurt so much” “I can’t find anybody that gets me.” Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    4. A guy that answers something like, “I move around a lot. It makes life more interesting” “I just moved into another apartment” “Actually, I’m looking for a place to live” “I’m looking for a roomate, preferably female.” “I get bored after living in the same place for more than a year.” Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    5. A guy that answers something like, “Money? who needs it?” “I don’t care about money, I just care about experiences” “I don’t have a bank account or savings.” “I’m in debt, but it wasn’t my fault. It was a series of bad coincidences” “Can you buy me some clothes” “Can you buy me _______________” “I’m really short this month….. (hint hint) Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    6. A guy that answers something like, “I work at Starbucks full time, but I’m going to school part time” “I’ve been in school seven years now and almost have my associates degree” “I’m living at home while I am thinking of what to do with my life.” “I just know I want to help people” “If things don’t work out I might join the Peace Corp” “I just want to save enough money so I can go to Europe.” Anything like that is a red flag. Run!

    Other things to watch out for. A guy who only communicates by texting, is very hot/cold, does not return phone calls on a consistent basis, rarely calls (especially after he knows you really like him) talks out of both sides of his mouth (contadicts himself all the time) Always says he’s “busy.” When he behaves this way and then starts to pull away, blaming you for “suffocating” him “not giving him his space” “nagging” anything where he tried to make you the Bad Guy the smartest thing you can do is just cut him off at the knees by completely and utterly ignoring him so that he ceases to exist. The ONLY reason he is pulling back is to trap you emotionally at which point he will pop in and out of your life at random and drive you nuts. The only way to avoid that is not fall for it.

    This is free advice from a Good Pisces.

  420. the tigress

    On August 14, 2009 at 4:50 pm


    Good Pisces: Thank you for the advice, and for caring to warn and keep me sane;) It IS appreciated. But again, I feel like I have to make one major distinction: that between the Dance and playing games. NOT the same.
    GAMES: I hate. I shut off people who play games and send them back to high school. It is the worst turn off when someone does hot/cold ON PURPOSE “what, how old are you, hon, don’t you know enough about power that you have to experiment on ME?” It takes me one glance to see into people’s motivation, I’m good like that.
    DANCE: I call the dance the male’s STEADY courtship closely following the woman’s enticing retreat, OR some big gesture that “claims” her, OR a series of small ones. The reason for women’s addiction/ genetic need for the dance: Women have so much more to lose, traditionally – 9 months carrying, 1-2 years breastfeeding, losing their body, their life, all that responsibility… It may not be the case any more, since many women don’t want children etc, BUT it’s wired into them to test you. Yes. It is.
    (Another bad example:) It’s almost like people who must give up a beloved cat demand you pay a re-homing fee – not for the cash itself, but so they know that you’ll love their cat – that kind of thinking. And I know it doesn’t always work – this blog is full of women who were chased and waited for and then left raw and hurting… I have been that woman too. There’s no guarantee. But I think it is wired in most women to at least make you try to pass that test! It’s not a game, it’s just paying our dues to the swampy darkness we evolved from;)
    And I SO wish there were less players – the dance has nothing to do with that. But my two steadiest relationships have been with men who either had to wait for me a long time, or prove with some big gesture that this really matters to them (in both cases, life demanded it, not me – but they made the choice on the spot and didn’t blink! And it won me.) – and THEY claimed it made me mean more to them that way. They admitted, unprompted, that had they not invested so much emotionally in the beginning, they would not have stuck by me when the going got tough. And both were NOT players, farthest from it. But they made their offering to the animal gods inside. Just wanted to make that clear.
    And, so sorry everyone for hogging the thread, it’s been an emotional week;)
    And thank you, Good Pisces, for the tenderness, and everyone here for reminding me to keep my eyes open and guard my heart. THANK YOU.

  421. Good Pisces

    On August 14, 2009 at 5:14 pm


    Hi Tigress,

    Thank you for your feedback. When you mention big gestures and courtship, I agree that there has to be an element of courtship for the relationship to progress, but as you stated yourself it has to be steady courtship. Steady courtship is consistent courtship and the only way that can happen when two people are on the same emotional page. The energies they are putting into the relationship are synced. I have absolutely no problem courting someone if they stop their dancing long enough to let me give of myself.

    I would love to sweep my Cappy off her feet. I am always fantasizing and thinking of romantic things I want to do, because I feel inside the need and want to please her and make her happy. I want to her to be able to swim in the pool that is me. But that can’t be done if she can’t balance out the relationship by doing what is necessary on her end to help it grow; in essence keeping me at arms length. It’s like her and I are trying to grow a flower. I’m giving it fertilizer and water. She’s supposed to be giving it sun and mulch, but instead she is draping a blanket over it, which will wind up killing the flower, no matter how much fertilizer and water I give it. Does this make sense?

    I cannot make a person my priority if they make me their option.

  422. the tigress

    On August 14, 2009 at 5:23 pm


    Maybe a better distinction, in my book:
    Game: You\’re trying to WIN and make the other side LOSE.
    Dance: You\’re LEARNING her (learning how to PLEASE her, and finding out if you can, and if you really want to).
    Game: There are tricks you have learned, and rules (that make you angry at her: I will SHOW her)
    Dance: No rules, you are going with her flow, feeling every movement she makes and moving accordingly, and it\’s making you WANT her more.

    PS: And, when I said thanks for keeping ME sane, my dear friend – I meant the older posts. This last one I know is for all women, I\’m not the kind of person who thinks the TV is speaking to them;)

  423. the tigress

    On August 14, 2009 at 5:31 pm


    Just saw you above post, after I posted more on Game and Dance: Well, the truth is, Good Pisces, we haven’t been there, haven’t seen your exchanges, haven’t felt the energy. If that’s how you feel: unmet, them you’re probably right… But that still doesn’t mean you should follow some silly law of pride and not pursue her more, if you want her. DO YOU WANT HER OR NOT, is the question. Just a woman’s opinion;)

  424. Good Pisces

    On August 14, 2009 at 6:10 pm


    You’re projecting what you think I’m doing and thinking for that matter, tigress. You are confusing pride with self respect; two completely different animals. I have never in my life demeaned myself and self-respect by letting anyone, male or female, pull me into a game of cat and mouse. It’s completely beneath me.

    I have had many great relationships in my life, including an incredibly full marriage, and I never danced with anyone, unless they were extending their hand at the same time I was.

    I’m not sure why you aren’t able to assimilate this. Is your Woman’s Opinion blinding you to what I’m trying to communicate? Put down the binders a sec and pay attention. ( ; Look at things the way a man does and perhaps it will help you somewhere down the road. I will dance with a partner who meets me half way, shares the lead, takes turns. I will not dance with someone who relegates me to a second tier in the name of the dance to prove my worth or devotion.

    When a woman does this it is an absolute turn off. Although I have male friends who like what popularly is called a “challenge.” I’ve noticed that those who enjoy challenges are those men who once they get what they want disappear. This blog is peppered with the emotional corpses they’ve left behind.

    My friends that are more like me abhor women who play hard to get and we are amazed that they think that their behavior leaves us wanting them more. Who taught you that? Wanting them more, how? Sexually? At this point in my life, sex is below emotional intimacy. Long foreplay and a few moments of pleasure does not in any way, shape or form, take the place of real emotional intimacy. That is created when two people have a meeting of the hearts and that only happens when they both reach out to each other equally.

    How much do I want my Cappy? As much as she is willing/able to give back. If she can’t do that than I will walk and she will have missed out on something that could have been very, very special.

  425. the tigress

    On August 14, 2009 at 11:03 pm


    YES!!! to long foreplay;)
    (life taught me that)
    Yes, we have very different priorities, but we’re both equally stubborn, so I’ll give you the pleasure of giving up.
    Good luck, sweetie. For real.

  426. Good Pisces

    On August 16, 2009 at 2:12 am


    People are single for a reason. Maybe it’s you? You don’t have to answer. It was supposed to be rhetorical……

  427. the tigress

    On August 16, 2009 at 3:19 am


    [the tigress is not single. and she wishes this good man a wonderful life;]

  428. Good Pisces

    On August 17, 2009 at 12:12 pm


    I have a wonderful life. But based on your previous posts it seems you would be better off single. It does not really seem like you are in a healthy relationship. Too much expecting others to pay their dues perhaps or the expectation to maintain a level of passion and suspense only seen in epic love stories?

    Speaking of which…I saw a great movie over the weekend, “The Time Travelers Wife.” He held out his hand in the begining and said “It’s great to meet you.” She hesitated for just a few seconds and grasped it in return. That was it. No dancing. No paying dues. No games. Nothing. Just pure honesty and transparency. I like you and you like me. Let’s do something about it.

    And they did. Even though he was disappearing all the time. lol.

    For others who read this blog, I hope that you realize that although there are a percentage of men who love the chase, the vast majority; particualarly over 35, don’t have time for the theatrics or drama. They just want to share their life with someone because nobody who really is in touch with their feelings wants to spend their life alone in an empty house. They SINCERELY want to share their life with someone special and important. Someone they can love and spoil. (the good men anyway)

  429. little Cappy

    On August 17, 2009 at 3:12 pm


    @ Good Pisces
    As I’ve read your posts, I ve noticed that you have little ‘problem’ with that “tough” girl Cappy, and it reminded me of myself years ago. How much I ‘tortured’ my Scorpio boyfriend (sorry scorps,,,, but the truth is that you re really the best!!:) better than Pisces men at least lol ). Today scorpio guy is under my skin, I adore him, and not even a good pisces man could change that :D

    It was the same “i dunno, i’m not sure if i want to see you/meet you/hear you” etc. Well, I have to say it’s much different today when I’m completely opened…I guess, let’s say, he passed the test, because he showed me how STRONG and RELUCTANT he is! and I think it was exactly the stuff that I respect – he is (even) stronger, more persistent than I am, and that’s what I was looking for. Someone to decide when I couldn’t decide or.. I “couldn’t” decide :) It wasn’t like a game or anything…it was just to be SURE if he was the one.
    So, what should be successful: say to her, you want to meet her, say place and time, show that you’re decisive; don’t ask her! Just make schedule for you two; if she says ‘no’, don’t let it takes away your selfconfidence, because you shouldnt be overwhelmed with that bad attitude she shows, and at the end it’s just her mask, with gentle/ warm/ relaxed woman under…
    So I think, whenever you allow her to see that you’re indecisive, not sure etc, she will not let you in her world.
    The only problem I see, is that she caused you to be less sure about your relation with her…I can understand it, but I can definitely not defend that behavior :) ) But, it’s a challenge, isnt it…

  430. Correction

    On August 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm


    @ Little Cappy – I believe you meant RELIABLE, not RELUCTANT:)

  431. the tigress

    On August 17, 2009 at 7:02 pm


    Good pisces: “Even though he was disappearing all the time. lol.” Your words, sweetie. Forgive me if I can’t laugh out loud with you, because that is what we are talking about when we’re talking bad pisces.
    What a shining example you give of a healthy relationship that began with an honest handshake.
    And please don’t pass judgment on what’s healthy. For one, healthy is something that works for both sides, and I definitely have that. Healthy is something that keeps my creativity turned on without drugs. Healthy is no lying and no snooping. Healthy is a pair of warm arms to crawl into when we are both around. Not that demanding, am I? I have, and cherish, all that. And he loves what I am, and that he can be what he is. There are many kinds of people and the classic rules don’t work for all of them. Please cut the rest of the world some slack. Or the people who wrote all the nice movies you’d like to take your Cappy to would have self-destructed before finishing the second chapter. You must understand not everyone is in accounting. I need my wheels spinning in a different way to do what I am good at as well as I do it. And again, again, let’s put an end to this. You and I are different, and both can have a fantastic life, according to our standards. All the best, and good luck.

  432. Foxy Lady

    On August 18, 2009 at 11:11 am


    Amen. What an articulate and intelligent woman.

  433. little Cappy

    On August 18, 2009 at 3:23 pm


    yes, I meant reliable -tnx

  434. Good Pisces

    On August 19, 2009 at 12:24 pm


    I sent Cappy a text today. “Welcome back! Missed ya. How was your trip?”

    Her reply was, “Thanks. It was fantastic.”

    I’m done. I can no longer deal with someone who behaves in such a cold and selfish manner. I’ve put up with enough. My closest female friends told me I was making a mistake pining for this woman, that she was selfish, self-centered and emotionally unavailable, but I had to give it a chance. We live and learn.

    Time to go swimming – away.

  435. Foxy Lady

    On August 19, 2009 at 1:34 pm


    What did you expect her to write? At least you got a reply. Which means you are not forgotten about. How long did it take her to text back? If it was immediate then she still wants you. If she waited a day or so then she probably doesn’t. You seem to be a hard man to please and way too sensitive, I suggest you find yourself a nice Water sign that will understand you better.

  436. Good Pisces

    On August 19, 2009 at 2:13 pm


    I think some of you are getting pissed because I don’t subscribe to your philosophies. I’m a man, not a woman and don’t think like you do. Everybody here reacts the exact opposite to people in the real world. My friends – all female – thought it was bizarre that she didn’t say anything above and beyond that. Yet, you think that is normal behavior. If a guy did that to you, I’m sure you would have a much different opinion. Of course, most of the people here are women and it’s expected that they latch the wagons togather in a circle for self-protection.

    I find it amusing that the same types of behaviors you can’t stand in men, that you would never put up with, you can do because your women and it’s part of the dance of love. You totally crack me up. What a double standard.

    What did I expect her to write? How about the exact same thing and then “How are you doing?” That’s how two people converse. I believe that is the way a typical conversation works.

  437. Good Pisces

    On August 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm


    Tigress, did you see the movie? I don’t think so because the guy does not disappear because he wants to. He disappears because he has some weird genetic dysfunction that makes him suddenly go back or forward in time. So he’s not a bad anything. He’s just a poor bloke who was born with a mutation.

    See the movie. It’s a great love story. One that I’m sure you would enjoy.

  438. Foxy Lady

    On August 20, 2009 at 9:25 am


    I would think “Thanks it was fantastic” then you say “Glad you enjoyed it, let’s get together soon and you can tell me all about it”, would be normal conversation. Not “I had a crap time and I missed you everyday” which would sound desperate and needy. I don’t know any men other than Pisces who think like you. They aren’t in touch with their feelings like Pisces. You do think like a woman. Anyway, text messages always get misconstrued because there is no tone of voice or anything else to go by. Better to call like an adult rather than text like a teenager. All the best.

  439. Lilly

    On August 20, 2009 at 9:54 pm


    I just have a question : What would be the reaction of a Pisces man if you broke up with him and then you reconciled ? Will he pay you back ? Will he not trust you anymore ? Will he broke up with you & then come back again after healing from the pain ?

  440. Javier

    On August 20, 2009 at 10:28 pm


    Lilly, that is a very good question you bring up. The first ever relationship I was in didn’t end too good. I was young so maybe I was naive but the girl I dated at that time completely tore my heart out. I remember the last words she told me like It was yesterday…”you will forever be a lowlife daydreamer”. A few days after she broke up with me I went into severe depression. I thought I was in love with her but only years later I would figure out that It was an obsession I had with her. Every time I would try to talk to her she would treat me like trash. She was a Leo so she stepped over my feelings like nothing. I was willing to forgive her but a day came when I grew tired of being her toy. I moved away and worked my butt off like there was no tomorrow to show her that I could make my dreams come true. I achieved the impossible. Years later I saw her again I forgave her but my feelings had turn to disgust. To this day I thank her for turning me into the man I am today. Why? Because the hate I had for her motivated me to become a better person. I am a Pisces and we tend to forgive easily Lilly but I have the moon in Scorpio so I forgive but never forget. Don’t let that discourage you from dating a pisces male. The water is just fine

  441. i am a gemini

    On August 21, 2009 at 8:16 am


    hi all,
    i am seeing a pisces guy for past one month…… nvr faced any hardtime uptill now. we had a small dispute and both of us handled it on our part. after that he was cold for 3-4 days. In that period i didnt bothered him much, after that automatically he communicated with me told wat he felt and asked wat did i feel.
    we hav not disscussed anything officially and the ‘relationship’ word has not yet come into picture. after reading all your comments i am bit nervous and want ur suggestions as to how i should proceed. should i make him clear that we should know each other spend sometime and den decide about the future. coz he gives me strong vibes that he would like for us to be together. i m going to meet him this weekend. and from advices of all you beautiful ladies i ll keep my calm and brain in my brain so i dont fall for his pretentions to please me.

  442. still confused

    On August 22, 2009 at 7:32 am


    I have dated 2 Piscean men and I am done dating them. I think they are just to wishy-washy for my liking. The last one, I only dated once and he knew all the nice things to say, and he treated me so tenderly, and we seemed to connect, but then he just decided to block my number from his cell, no explanation, no nothing. I guess me being a Virgo, maybe I am too practical for a fish that would rather be in an imaginary world. They are so sensitive, which is a plus for a Virgo like me, but I just can’t seem to understand them with my practical Virgo mind…..????

  443. Lilly

    On August 22, 2009 at 12:46 pm


    Javier,

    Thanks for the respond…I am just confused, I broke with my Pisces because I was missing him but then I returned back & talked to him…looked like he was nice to me just to pay back :) He broke up with me after 2 weeks. I know that I hurted him because I just did it when he was not expecting it at all. Then I stayed away for like 6 weeks with not a single contact to him by any means. As a matter of fact I just feel that him breaking up with me was out of love…or maybe I am wrong ?Pisces are secretive anyways. I just would like to understand his behaviour !

  444. Cancer mama

    On August 22, 2009 at 6:47 pm


    Hi Lilly,
    you don’t. Never. Or you just accept his behaviour and don’t try to understand ALL his moves! Just accept. Let him be and no games – at least try it…
    /I have the same problem :) / I know what you mean I quess/ and one more thing – don’t expect everything from him – everything comes in its own time!

  445. Javier

    On August 22, 2009 at 6:59 pm


    Cancer is right Lilly. Everything comes in it’s own time. Is hard to understand a Pisces male but it’s even harder being one. Take it from me ladies.

  446. Lilly

    On August 22, 2009 at 8:40 pm


    To Cancer mama & Javier,

    I did not want to ask this question, but here I go…asking it.

    Do u think he will come back someday ? :)

  447. cancer mama

    On August 23, 2009 at 5:41 am


    Good morning!
    Only what I know about Pisces male: he is veeery proud – it means in my lanquage: you should treat him veeery nice although it’s very hard sometimes! And I also think you should be patient with him it’s simply truth but – if he really feels something for you – he will return. Try to find more confidence in yourself and you will see what happens…
    greetings from holland!!

  448. Javier

    On August 24, 2009 at 2:55 pm


    It depends on how many times you hurt him Lilly. If it was only once then there is a good chance he comes back but If it was more than once then It’s going to be really hard for him to go back.

  449. Lilly

    On August 24, 2009 at 11:02 pm


    Cancer mama,

    Thanks for your respond..By they way I have been to Holland & I really enjoyed my time there…beautiful country :)

    Javier,

    Your respond gives me hope…It was only once when I told him that I can’t take it anymore because I of my feelings for him…In another words he was not available as he should so that’s why I broke up…but looks like he did not care about the later part as much as he cared about the “leaving” part.
    I really have no idea if he does have any feelings for me or if he doesn’t & I do not have any options.. I alraedy explained my point of view but he still insisted on saying good-bye !

  450. the tigress

    On August 31, 2009 at 11:06 am


    Foxy Lady, do you still peek in here once in a while? Hope all is going well with you;)

  451. Foxy Lady

    On September 1, 2009 at 12:33 pm


    Hi Tigress, yes I do, but it all seems to have gone a bit flat doesn’t it! I wish some more Pisces men would post on here. I’m interested in their experiences. How are you doing? Good I hope. ;)

  452. the tigress

    On September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm


    Very good, Foxy Lady, thank you… Wanted to pssssst-wink-pull you over to the Bust Lounge for heated discussions on anything to do with women and bodies and souls and relationships. No astrology thread that I’ve noticed, though. Just cool women talking without censoring themselves. Like, AT ALL.
    And yes, I wish it would liven up a bit here too;)

  453. Foxy Lady

    On September 2, 2009 at 9:56 am


    Had a looksy, how refreshing. Thanks for the tip, see you on there! :)

  454. cancerian mama

    On September 2, 2009 at 2:58 pm


    … so we have two friends here and the “rest” is left alone! :-)

  455. the tigress

    On September 3, 2009 at 9:04 am


    Aww, come on over, Cancerian mama;) Didn’t know who’s left “lurking” here, grrrls. It is been so quiet here, it’s depressing.

  456. the tigress

    On September 3, 2009 at 9:07 am


    Psssst… Gracie?
    ;)

  457. Broken-heated Aquarius

    On September 4, 2009 at 4:13 pm


    Hi all,
    I have spent a good hour or so reading everyone’s posts and like a lot of other females have said, I wonder if we dated the same guy…

    I am an Aquarius that has been in an on and off relationship with a Pisces male for almost 6 years. He is the first love of my life.. I met him when I had just turned 18. It’s been so difficult trying to move on and find someone better. When I start to pick up the pieces, we somehow talk again and it starts all over. I am the longest relationship that he has had. He was wonderful at first but as the relationship progressed, I found out about all of these things that he had hidden well, like a bad drinking problem and substance abuse problems. I helped him through a lot. I always felt like I influenced him a lot… like, he changed how he dressed completely for me and his sentiments about school. I forgave him for A LOT. He cheated on me, lied, etc. For 3 years, the relationship was long distance bc of schooling. We both moved up north, but his drinking problem got out of control that he moved back in with his parents and I stayed to finish my education. Then, I moved back, and we broke up bc he was talking to other girls on the Internet. He met someone and it was upsetting. Then he and I started talking again bc I was going through a lot of family problems. I spent the last 6 months or so with him. At first, we started talking with the intention of being friends but it was very obvious, or so I believed, that the feelings were still there. In the last month, we had started talking about having a future again. He wants to move in May and I told him I would support him through it because I felt it was important for him to gain independence and well, we HAVE done the long distance thing so it would be like putting on a new shoe. Well, 2 days after we had this wonderful time together, he found out that the girl he had briefly dated was dating someone else and just like that, it was ALL GONE. He didn’t want to talk to me and when we did talk, he was yelling at me over the phone. He said some very nasty things. He told me that he had moved on and that he didn’t love me and when I questioned him why he had been telling me almost EVERYDAY “i love you,” he said that that was in the past and that it didn’t matter now. After that conversation, I saw him 2 days later, and he said that his heart was split in 2 and that he didn’t know what he wanted bc he was in love with me, but her as well. Well, I guess he got what he wanted bc apparently they are working things out.

    At the end of it, I don’t know what was real and what was fiction. The whole time he dated her, he never really mentioned her and when he did, it was to say that she had gone through his things/phone and had deleted things, like pictures of me (she is a Virgo). He would also complain how she talked too much and that it weirded him out and that he didn’t feel comfortable expressing his feelings and then he would somehow segway that into how he felt like I was the only one he had shared a deep connection with. He would call in the middle of the night and it would weird me out (He’s not the calling type) and I’d ask him why, and he would say because he could talk to me.

    It makes me crazy bc I felt like he felt like, I didn’t have a RIGHT to be upset, like I was crazy for crying and being hurt. When I tried to explain it to him, he just couldn’t understand. I’m deeply hurt by him and his actions. I keep telling myself that it wasn’t me. I really gave him so much love, more than I ever thought I was capable of, and forgiveness and kindness. I don’t know, but I’m comforted to see that I am not the only one confused.

  458. Lady Capricorn

    On September 6, 2009 at 5:17 am


    If it’s one thing I really learned, it is that when a man is truly interested in you, he finds you, he comes to you & he certainly seeks you out for your company. It sounds to me like your fish is not only confused, but he wants to have his cake & eat it too. If he’s hurt you & lied, cheated, etc & he continues to hurt you & not give you what you want, then it’s time to let him go. If he truly loves you, he will come to you & be ready to give you what you need & want. If he doesn’t, he was never yours. “Every woman has the kind of love life she wants.” think about it. much luck!

  459. Lady Capricorn

    On September 6, 2009 at 5:18 am


    If it\’s one thing I really learned, it is that when a man is truly interested in you, he finds you, he comes to you & he certainly seeks you out for your company. It sounds to me like your fish is not only confused, but he wants to have his cake & eat it too. If he\’s hurt you & lied, cheated, etc & he continues to hurt you & not give you what you want, then it\’s time to let him go. If he truly loves you, he will come to you & be ready to give you what you need & want. If he doesn\’t, he was never yours. \”Every woman has the kind of love life she wants.\” think about it. much luck!

  460. Cancerian mama

    On September 6, 2009 at 6:07 am


    Hi Broken Hearted ,
    I can nearly feel your pain… but I agree with the words above…
    I know it is very, very hard to let go bc you are emotionally involved… I know also a pisces man /perhaps it doesnt matter what sign he is/ and from the beginning /I am married/ I felt like I met my second half /everybody say it I know/ but he really isn’t. He was just mirroring me! Think about it!
    Men are good at this!
    Anyway try to get some distance from him and who knows what happens…
    It s up to you…
    greetings

  461. good luck

    On September 7, 2009 at 5:02 pm


    ladies, I feel for you. I’ve been there. I think how to get over the situation such as this is understand that you are not isolated, you are not alone.

  462. Leo Lady

    On September 19, 2009 at 4:46 pm


    I have never actually dated a Pisces man before this, and never realized how complicated they could be. Mine just dissapeared and id been seeing him for close to 3 months. Said he was on his way over, and never showed. Never answered the phone and never replied to texts. Its bad cause i was really worried that something happened to him, but ive realized after a week, im sure hes fine, just maybe done with our relationship. Funny someone on here said how they grasp on when they feel like its over, because i think i made him feel that way prior to our supposed night togeather, and he decided to “get me back”? Pretty strange huh? I got no answers for this one.

  463. notadumbgirl

    On September 19, 2009 at 10:21 pm


    pisces men are manipulative and spineless at least the ones that I’ve known. They all have the same characteristics.

  464. Good Pisces

    On September 23, 2009 at 6:24 pm


    notadumbgirl. You really are dumb, bordering on the totally stupid. What a ridiculous, generalized statement you made. p i s c e s M a l e, who posted on the 17th, is a prime example of a pisces who you should stay away from. A total dreamer who does nothing but think about what he should be doing, but is thrown into a state of paralysis by analysis. A woman should avoid him and other downstreamer Pisces like him like the black plague of death.

    I’m a Pisces and NOTHING like him or his kind. There are two types of Pisces, upstreamer and downstreamer, and your job is to ferret which one is the stable one by asking the right questions and looking at their history. I found your “they are all spineless” comment completely baseless and probably based on your lack of inquisitiveness.

    I’ve been in the education field for 20 plus years. I have a masters degree and three cleared credentials. I own my own home, invest my money and anything that I’ve dreamed of doing I’ve done it because I know the meaning of hard work and follow-through. I’ve also had some great, healthy, long term relationships over the course of my life (when I’ve been able to meet a woman who knows the meaning of the words honesty and transparency; a rare find these days) that have added significantly to the quality of my life.

    Please do everyone a favor and don’t shoot off that big mouth of yours until you’ve done your homework. The same kind of homework I do to ferret out woman like yourself so I don’t have to post something negative against an entire sign or gender.

  465. finsyousuck

    On September 24, 2009 at 2:38 pm


    Just like a spineless fish to come and flip flop and make the forum about HIM. You are on this forum to try to “save” us damsels? Do US a favor and let us HEAL withOUT your need to come on here and try to get on your preachy soap box. Flipper!

  466. finsyousuck

    On September 24, 2009 at 2:39 pm


    Just like a spineless fish to come and flip flop and make the forum about HIM. You are on this forum to try to \\\”save\\\” us damsels? Do US a favor and let us HEAL withOUT your need to come on here and try to get on your preachy soap box. Flipper!

  467. flippedoutflipper

    On September 24, 2009 at 2:41 pm


    and also lay off the wine coolers and alcohol while you are hurling the insults Mr. Fins.

  468. Beauty Queen

    On September 24, 2009 at 6:19 pm


    This is getting hostile and it really should not be everyone!!!
    Come on now we are all trying to get some help, explanations and advice so we can move forward. can you all start respecting each other’s opinion now??

  469. Foxy Lady

    On September 25, 2009 at 11:38 am


    Well whaddayaknow! LOL! Things just got a little more interesting! Not quite so passive after all guys. Good to see you all still look in here from time to time. Welcome back all!

  470. thereishopeforflippers

    On September 26, 2009 at 2:03 am


    pisces male, don’t worry there is hope for you at least you admit that you are here and want to get advice you must be in the 1%

  471. nobody

    On September 26, 2009 at 6:28 am


    are you forgotten your meds today?

  472. nobody

    On September 26, 2009 at 6:32 am


    …and Adolf was not a Pisces … sorry…

  473. Somebody

    On September 26, 2009 at 4:21 pm


    Yep…Adolf Hitler was an Aries (April 20th 1889) !

  474. piscesbipoloarmedswonthelp

    On September 26, 2009 at 7:11 pm


    Pisces, the Fish, are the true arty farty, idealistic, poet types. They love nothing better than to wallow in their own poetic muses and will probably feel peeved that this text is not rhyming.

    Pisces are the pretentious cravat wearing creatives of the star system who love nothing better than the splash of oil on canvas, crunch of quill to parchment or the watery spashy-trickle of watercolor paint brush in jam jar water.

    Pisces are kind, make excellent carer’s, although, unfortunately, they tend to take on the symptoms of the ailment of anyone around them, or of people they see on the television or read about in newspapers.

    On the positive side Pisceans can make a handy side income from work as a medium or mystic. Give a Piscean a crystal ball and the results are quite stunning – in tests about 20% more accurate than newspaper horoscopes.

    Pisceans have moments of great inspiration which, if they weren’t so smiley, could lead to mobs trying to burn them at the stake as a witch.

    On the further downside, Pisces exhibits a multiple personality type characteristic, including one or all of the following: the victim, the martyr, the hostage, the in-shower-Opera-singer-not-in-the-shower.

    All Pisces exhibit multiple personality disorders. They can be very manipulative, they like to suffer and inflict suffering, they can be spiteful. On the positive side they can be very forgetful and so can be half way through being spiteful and suddenly go off to do the shopping or something else. Warning: If they aren’t forgetful, they can be racked with guilt. Insanity is a clear trait of this star sign.

  475. YoungPiscesMan(21)

    On September 27, 2009 at 6:36 am


    ALERT WOMEN: I am a young male dealing with some of these issues that have the attention of your discretion. Im here to give my reason for these some of these actions that match the descriptions of your Pisces male.

    1)Not Answering The Phone MOST of the time:
    I give a lot of time to thinking because I am conscience that my life requires a plan. Im not sure of what true success requires so I devote much time to thinking if this is the life i truly want.Most Pisces male have a natural appreciation for nature and the act of conscienceness… Am I happy in the Career field ive chosen???I like this but is there more????Is this really the best I can do????These are questions we torment ourselves with:PHONERINGS…KEYPART LADIES……Be a contributional factor to the goals Pisces man sets…THAT IS A GREAT WIFEY SKILL….planning….accounting…..ideas at least!! Otherwise your not useful…..We dont spend time talking to people who cant benefit our plans, but most women need attention and carry phone calls about their stress filled day that has no central benefit to the Pisces male’s energy field( I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT NONSENSE friends business/mess at work/newpurses/how does this look) All these are things not worth talking about on the phone…but rather a woman is supposed to govern these things on her own in her mind…we want that intellectual grace we gave YOU in the beggining, but you couldnt keep up mentally, so we dont share as often or dont want to talk as often…WE start to become the conversational force and the main one talking…so we get quiet to see what will you actually come up with…Thats when we get the,” BLAHBLAH “Now dont take offense if your mental awareness is focused on people and events, Pisces male is infactuated with IDEAS…so you will MOSTDEFINITELY experience problems after 4-6 months if your a MediaControlled, materialistic based, party every weekend, all I want is marriage female… we sometimes feel its wrong to undermine your feelings( SAY YOUR NOT INTERESTING) But your SOOO SEXY and cute…so we deal with it as long as we can then off into the stream….(CAUTION) If a Pisces male stays around but seems harsh or rude, he loves you…..seems weird, but he hates the fact your in his personal heart area…HE HATES IT….He cant just dump you yet because he has to have a reason other than your an inadequate choice for a wife…he’s hoping you will fire back with animosity so things WONT work….he has developed feelings he cant explain, so to prove it to himself, he crucifies the love only to satisfy his proof of independence( FAKE MANHOOD) Watch out for those guys, they dont know the essence of GOD yet>>>

  476. Foxy Lady

    On September 27, 2009 at 5:24 pm


    Are you sure you’re only 21? Must be an old soul! Thanks for the insight,

  477. akeeper

    On September 28, 2009 at 3:04 am


    thank you pisces you can stick around!

  478. YOUNGPISCESMAN(21)

    On September 28, 2009 at 3:37 pm


    Thnks…and yes im 21…i been dating a Sag(fire)for 7months and she is a charm…but I had her calling me selfish, unexpressive,non-chalant….keep in mind she’s very loveable, potential wife….but to me its a little different because she is 30 with a full career and still in school for her masters. So she feels when she dedicates time to me I should do the same. Now the point most women miss is defining lines in your expectation from a person. Now if you admire chivalry, then thats something we definitely need to know. Your expectations from men should be in a mental corporate letterhead with bullets and headers! SERIOUSLY…it seems now you have to give relationships sort of a mental study guide for the people involved.There’s not anything worse for me than a female who is caught up in someone’s else tradition of love. Pisces like to create the new boundaries and of course like to compromise, but hate to be given routine predictable interaction.

    KEYPOINT:
    85% of women dont get to know the man well enough before bedtime. Now I totally understand feeling lonely and wanting to make sure that dress still makes heads turn….but come on, Pisces love head strong people. But dont get it twisted we will make sweet love to you like the Goddess you are, but when its time for business( clap clap ) all games to the side.

    CONS:1) (sigh) I honestly dont understand why in the middle of a conversation sometimes, I just start daydreaming and my finger magically goes to the END button. Im totally aware its rude and unethical. But I have this sense of I DO WHAT I WANT and people should just understand. What person calls someone for weeks and they dont answer?Thats not love. Pisces tend to believe in TOUGH love. Get to the point actions you kno? Everyone is different. Some women hate it/Some love it…..
    2) Now im a young business owner. Ive been working for Atlantic Records and different indie labels since 17. Never went to college but I graduated highschool with free rides for academics. So it is odd to others that im in the MUSIC industry. Its natural for me and it resonates with my fulfillment from life. BUT my life was in finacial ruin until I hired and assistant( SAG ) who was so organized and UN-lazy! I mean she gave me tax strategies/porfolio adjustment/accounting/and PR for small record companies. I admired her focus and drive so much that I meditated for that quality, because it was needed if I wanted to be intimate with success. We became closer and closer and she hepled me turn my little boy company into my dream situation. But it was only when i realized that action procreates. So inspire Pisces man that anything is possible by tuning out what you dont want and make a plan for his initial goal. REMEMBER: He’s thinking of how to enhance his life and be more successful. Make him organize! Its like the kid who thanks his parents after he’s grown for the spankings they gave…lol
    But i dont think I would have sat down and did all of what she has done for my company. I am a thinker…i need people who are motivated and act in my system I operate. So also encourage Pisces( if he’s the business type ) set up a team/strategy and a inner circle of trust. He already thinks he is different, so accomodate that with order…he’ll love the militant yet effective enhancement…Figure out his goals and how does your network/networking ability does for his plan. Now when my woman does that to me, its like i need her but its higher in vibration. I guess a soul mate attraction. She cares about something I care about!!! I love that high she gives me, again because she aids me and I aid her…

    3) Its so weird to figure out that the things that you thought make you an extremely different individual are common traits according to planetary movement…Now im a spiritual guy, but that blows the lid off of my curiosity box. I have a few women I do not keep in contact with, but I call periodically and if said I was in their city for a few days….they would love to see me…I get hit with the ” you never call ” or ” i never see you ” but I immediatley regurgitate my nomadic nature. So it is a little hard for us to be open because we have a harsh mind toward WHINY BABIES and we realize the world around us is sensitive, but emotional sensitivity is derived from lack of self respect and understanding. So while we all note the different characteristics of each other, lets first understand theres 6billion people here who might can love you better than you imagined…JUST LOVE YOU because your surroundings will correspond and that Piscean man will all of a sudden want to be at your aid…Hope ive been of aid ladies/guys and I wish all of you understanding and wisdom to realize who you really are…

    -NecronamLLC@gmail.com

  479. nobody

    On September 29, 2009 at 5:02 pm


    … and I don’t understand you… typically Pisces… and a question: what does it mean soul mate? Is is just mirroring one another or … what is it? because I am a stupid girl who met /after 33 years a boy/ I know from past /pisces of course/ and I cannot explain to myself why I do know him so well even he was gone for so many years…or my fantasy is sooooo big…it is like he was always there… what is it?

  480. jade

    On September 29, 2009 at 11:35 pm


    I am a capricorn woman, strong woman. Born January 9th. It seems like I attract Pisces men. I was married to one for little over 3 years. The one I’m with now is going on 3 years on and off. Let me tell you, there is so much I could tell you, but right now, Im going to bed. But I will be back. Pisces men come back if they have not totally used you up. Or they think that you have nothing to offer to make their life better. You see, they too like status and security, like us capricorns. They just go about it a different way. The one I am with is still hanging on because he sees major potential here. We are pretty good together too, but he knows a good thing when he sees it He knows I am his protector…I was a student nurse when we got together. So he was there before I became sucessful. But I never let my guard down. I think having been hurt by my ex husband who is also a pisces, I know how to deal with this one. I give him space. But I put my foot down when I need to. Have much more to say but thats all for now. I do believe that Pisces does better with capricorns and taurus though. For the long haul….

  481. Foxy Lady

    On September 30, 2009 at 1:25 pm


    Nobody – it’s a either your soul mate or twin flame. I have the same experience going on right now.

  482. goodpiscessuck

    On September 30, 2009 at 9:58 pm


    goodpisces, somehow you managed to turn this into you and your MASTERS wahhh wahhh wahhhh. Why are you here again? To shed light on how wonderful you are and how much of a savior you are. A__hole you came on here defending against character traits that we have discussed. You then decided to hurl names at individuals because they are on here venting. Do me a favor drink a little more, dream a little more and go kill yourself. Meanwhile allowing the real dialogue to begin.

  483. Jade

    On September 30, 2009 at 11:59 pm


    Well, as promised I am back. Pisces men are chameleons. They change to suit whatever circumstances that benefits them. Remember I mentioned that my ex husband is a pisces. Well, he left me when I had lost my job and was thinking of changing careers. After taking care of his ass for 2 years, he up and left me when I needed him…HOWEVER. He must not know about capricorn women. I might be down but not for long. I pulled myself together, went back to school and now I am a nurse.. The woman he left me for had a couple of houses at the time, so her star was shining brighter than mine, or so he thought. Well the housing market hit rock bottom. And they ended up in foreclosure…I still have my home that he walked out of, I had it before I met him, now I have another one that I bought and rented out the first one…The pisces that I now live with for 3 years, I still am not ready to marry him yet. I will put I want a prenup…..hell yea.. I learned my lesson from the first one…My experience are deep, I didnt just date these people, I lived with these people…One more thing..A pisces can be with you and not be with you. You can be a thousand miles away, and they are with you. Very complex people, but I love them, He smoothes my roughness, he makes me melt. I love him and hate him sometimes… Any way. I’ll be back..
    Hang in there ladies

  484. Good Pisces

    On October 2, 2009 at 1:34 pm


    Talk about not knowing who you are. Everytime you post something it’s under a different name. You either must be schitzophrenic or be suffering from dementia. You poor fool. Get out of your mom’s basement and get a job. Maybe it’ll give you incentive to get a complete mental, emotional and physical make-over. God knows you need it.

    Sorry Jade, but if you go through life labeling people like that, you’ll always carrying a grudge and sound bitter; like you do now. I don’t know how anybody can take “signs” so literally, as if that was the baramoter to measure a persons worth. That Cappy that I was seeing and dumped was a game playing little twit, but I sure am not going to use my experience with her to tar and feather all the other Cappy’s I may encounter later on in life. That would be kind of lame and unfair, don’t you think?

  485. trinity

    On October 3, 2009 at 1:32 am


    GOOD PISCES, you are clearly a bitter person. the capricorn must have broken your heart. you donot seem like an inteligent person or a pisces for that matter. your masters degree should have been in human relations, which might have benefited you on how do deal with other human beings. and if i didn’t capitolize so what. You try to come off as arrogant but you just seem lost to me. maybe she just need help or attention. we all do at times. nothing to feel embarrased about.

  486. Need Advice

    On October 8, 2009 at 8:50 pm


    Question : What would be the right move if a pisces said he is afraid of falling in love ?

    Thanks

  487. CAPRICORN WOMAN

    On October 19, 2009 at 4:37 am


    My pisces has not returned, but I just let it all out & I have moved on. It doesn’t hurt anymore. I tried contacting him again, but, all he could text was ” I don’t know what to say when you text or email me, so I just chose to remain silent. What words do you want from me?” Well, I told him I cared about him & wanted him in my life-nothing, not ever did he contact me again & ever since then I have moved on. How strange, he is strange even to me that my Venus is in Pisces. I have Cancer Moon, & Libra Rising. My sun sign is Capricorn. To: Need Advice-Just run for it if he seems confusing. That is a sure sign that he isn’t stable in himself & can not give you what you need. He will end up breaking you heart……Detach Girl, detach. good luck to all!

  488. cocochabang

    On October 28, 2009 at 6:11 pm


    Need advice – if he says he\’s afraid of falling in love, then he\’s well on the way to falling in love with you.

  489. deb

    On October 29, 2009 at 12:29 am


    well remember when you were little and believed in cinderella. well pisces men believe in cinder fella. they like the attention and want you to want them. but once you disclose how you feel you have ruined the fairy tale because it then becomes reality and pisces hate reality they like the never ending chase and this way they can make you anyone they want in their own little fairytale land, without having to pay to take you out and no obligations they can swim away in the nowhere land.

  490. drive by

    On November 3, 2009 at 6:13 pm


    re: cocochabang:
    Or he\’s just saying it he would not be blamed for backing off/ not getting emotional. One has to hear how he says this thing, I think. Really hear. Is he saying it as if he\’s holding back so much more he wants to say but dares not, or is it a line he\’s using to cancel further expectations (yet not have to give up sex with you necessarily). I\’d be suspicious of this line with a pisces tho. Pisces men are NOT afraid to fall in love. They LIVE for it.

  491. sublime

    On November 12, 2009 at 8:44 am


    Oh wow. I read through most of these posts, took me hours. It seems like most of you guys and girls have some pretty good, solid advice to give. Especially Tigress, I admire your blunt honesty and FoxyLady and Gracie. Your words were golden and the fact that you were so interested was what kept me reading. I felt like you truly wanted to help.

    So maybe you or anyone who comes across this really could give me your two cents.

    I was doing some soul-searching so I googled \’Pisces\’ and stumbled on this site. Being a Pisces myself I often get lost in who I am so I like to read stuff like this. Pretty amazing how accurate (some of) this stuff is.

    Anywho, my situation is — and I\’ll try to keep it short — I have very strong feelings for a girl (she\’s a Gemini) which hinders my ability to form any kind of a relationship with her. This seems to be the case whenever I have feelings for any girl. Anyway, this girl is my best friends little sister to further complicate things but, I was open to my friend about it and he told me not to sweat it. But I am sweating it and making it a humungous deal inside my head. I really dont want to mess this up. So I might have done something stupid. For her birthday, I drew up a portrait of her in charicature style, though I was too scared to give it to her in person so I left it in her mailbox. We hang out pretty often, though never alone just the two of us. Her brother brought her into the group and everyone gets along, so we have the same friends. I honestly don\’t know if she\’s interested in me, my intuition tells me yes. For example, she sometimes approaches me, she\’s given me rides, she likes to tease me from time to time, I catch her staring at me, she\’s more nervous and clumsy around me. The signs she\’s giving are not what I\’m worried about. It is me who does the complete opposite of what my heart is telling me. I fail to carry a conversation with her, I\’m too shy to approach her, I keep my distance from her, I freeze up in her presense and cease to be myself. Even when the signs are apparent, I believe I have no chance with this girl which is exactly why I project this sort of behavior. This really sucks because it has me thinking that maybe I\’ve given her the wrong impression, scared her away and completely ruined my chances with her. All the while I\’m going \’no no no no no\’ in my head. It is very self-sabatoging. Why can\’t I just go for it? I do not understand my behavior and it feels so hopeless trying to overcome this.

    Much appreciated.

  492. You are delusional!!!!

    On November 13, 2009 at 11:29 am


    Sublime,

    Leave that poor girl alone before you break her heart and drag her down the path of disappointment and pain!!!!!!!!!!!!

  493. Sublime

    On November 14, 2009 at 8:02 am


    @You are delusional!!!!

    Sorry, not giving up that easily. I can’t live my life in regret of what I didn’t do. I can’t go on wondering what if’s. If anything, disappointment and pain has been the outcome of my actions for me. I’m looking for some insight on how to possibly get rid of this stupid fear, stemming from having low self-esteem. I don’t like being this way and I feel it has kept me from everything I’ve ever wanted.

  494. MadPisces

    On November 15, 2009 at 11:51 am


    Another Pisces Guy Here!!! My moon Sun and Moon Sign both are Pisces. So the characteristics described above get multiplied.Though I have not broken any girl’s heart , I have been escaping from Virgo,Leo,Pisces and aquarian girls. I don’t know for eternity’s sake why I am made like that!!!. The questionaire set by good Pisces to know if he is Upstreamer or Downstreamer completely qualifies me as bad Pisces. Great questionaire by Good Pisces to know if to continue with relationship or not.
    Thanks to all the ladies above to let us know how weird we are perceived in general.

  495. MadPisces

    On November 15, 2009 at 11:58 am


    @Beauty Queen, what happened to your story further?. Did it conclude positively or negatively.??

  496. beautyqueen

    On November 18, 2009 at 2:20 am


    madpisces, I SHOT HIM. NUFF SAID. I CAN’T DO NOTIHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG RIGHT

  497. gracie

    On November 21, 2009 at 4:37 am


    @ Sublime: I think that it would be good to try doing the opposite of what you’re doing. smile back, stare back, walk up and say “so, how have u been doing?” you are really shut down, and the only way to come out of that is by just asking the golden question ” would you like to go out to dinner?” maybe being alone with her(finally!) will easen up the mood for you & you might feel alot more relaxed bringing her into your territory (your sole presence). after she accepts the invite, you won’t have nothing else to wonder like “what if.” one step to build your self confidence. STOP THINKING SO MUCH. just view her as someone you like, point blank. leave her brother out of it, stop seeing her as his little sister, if you know her name, use it! her name isn’t “my best friends little sister” and when you start thinking “nononono” DROP IT. stop yourself cold & jump in-the water is fine* ;)

  498. MadPisces

    On November 21, 2009 at 2:05 pm


    ” People always told me be careful what you do
    Don’t go around breaking young girls’ hearts
    And mother always told me be careful who you love
    Be careful what you do ’cause the lie becomes the truth

    Billie Jean is not My Lover…”
    MJ Masterpiece!!!!!!!

  499. Spanish Pisces

    On November 24, 2009 at 7:34 pm


    Sorry about the late answer Beauty Queen..
    Had a few complicated months and i ended up completely forgetting about the site, so i could not offer you further feedback.

    I believe, once you lost a Pisces, you lost him forever, the problem is that for us Pisces, it is really difficult to admit to ourselves and to our partner, the fact that we no longer love him/her.

    That is because , unlike some other signs, who prefer to cut all ties once all is said and done, Pisces will always reserve a small corner of his/her heart for you, and will always care for you in his own , dreamy way, and hence he is very scared to hurt you and to lose you by directly hurting you and confessing you, that he prefers to follow a different path.

    But deep inside our hearts, once we given up on a relationship ( Which is very difficult, since we tend to forgive all and to blind us to the problems of the couple, out of love ) there´s no turning back, and that´s because probably , in our own way, we already given all our chances and tried everything we could think of , hoping to fix it.

    It is very rare for a Pisces to give up on his/her partner if he/she feels like there´s even just one particle of a chance, to fix things and end up strenghtening the relationship.

  500. PlEASE!!!!!

    On November 25, 2009 at 4:59 pm


    To all of you weak-minded pisces,

    Pisces man should be completely isolated from women!!!! I would rather have a man tell me he doesn’t feel the same way immediately then for him to pretend that he still loves me and drag me along this extremely confusing path, and, in the end, make me feel like I wasted all this time for nothing. Pisces man should be alone because they will never figure out what they want. They will always question things and sooner or later end the relationship, no matter how much in love they seem to be at the beginning. Pisces man are lazy bastards who rarely, almost never achieve anything in life and who break many womens hearts for their self discovery. Pisces man shouldn’t even be on this site. Please stop writing or even visiting this site. This site is for victims of your twisted little games. WE DON’T NEED YOUR TWO CENTS.

  501. Spanish Pisces

    On November 26, 2009 at 9:07 am


    There is horrible individuals in every single sign of the Zodiac.
    I.E : I have met a Scorpio woman who was more indecisive and hurtful than any pisces i ve ever known, and ended up betraying me for my “best friend”, and then betraying him for another random guy she met in a bar.

    Now, does that mean that all Scorpio woman are devils who care only about money and having a warm bed to pass the next weekend at?

    No, it does not, it just means i have found one bad Scorpio girl.

    We could argue if Pisces tends to have more indecisive individuals than other signs due to our dreamy nature, or not, but you certainly have no right to insult us and censor us away from this site.

    You are not proving in any way to be better than any evil pisces person by throwing insults around and offering an attitude that comes close to that of the fellas of the inquisition.

    We should keep this site a friendly place for us all to talk and try to help each other, and not a place to come and be as much hurtful as those that made us cry.

  502. wedontneedyourcommercials

    On December 1, 2009 at 7:07 pm


    amen PLEASE! Tired of the Pisces promoting themselves. People are talking about them and they come on here waddling and swimming around as victims once again trying to defend their woe is me group.

  503. Spanish Pisces

    On December 4, 2009 at 3:02 pm


    Unless my eyes betray me, this article is called “The pisces Man” as opposed to “Come here to insult and berate the evil nefarious pisces man ”

    Get real, your problem is not having met a wrong pisces man, your problem is your attitude.

    You accuse us to cry and to victimize ourselves, yet all what you are doing is to cry , complain , and insult anything pisces here.

    Get over yourselves already geez.

  504. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 4, 2009 at 9:57 pm


    I have been coming on here for the past month during working hours and it has taken me that long to read all the comments and I must say that I have enjoyed them all. Even when it has gotten a little spicey. I must admit that I have learned quite alot about Pisces men and quite alot of what I already knew has been validated. I have dated several Pisces and I believe that I understand them very well. I have had my heart broken by one, but he was the best Man that I have ever encountered in my life. We became soul mates and best friends, to this day we still talk and are great friends, but I am now dating another Pisces, that is very sweet, but very reserved in his whimsical, and that is odd to me. Because or my experience with Pisces. He doesn’t tell me how he feels about me, and he doesn’t spend hours at a time with me. He is of the Good Pisces sort, because he is very driven and task oriented and he only like commited relationships. We have been dating for about 4 months and although he doesn’t communicate his feelings towards me, we speak everyday, if he can’t answer when I call he calls right back immediately, we are together every weekend and we are growing a very good friendship. He has expressed that he has been devastatingly hurt in the past so he is afraid to give all of himself quickly to a relationship. He has also expressed that he is feeling me very deeply and believes that I may be the one that he can finally trust and let go. I am a true Scorpio. I give him his space. Some days I am so busy I forget to call him, so I will shoot him a text. He always responds. I tell him I miss him, he doesn’t say it back. I have told him that I love him and his intake of breath was so loud and the fear that showed up on his face was so real that I thought he was going to run for the hills. But that was 2 months ago and we are still building a strong foundation. Whenever I have a concern about our relationship or tell him some things that I need, he does his best to do them. He says he is not a romantic, but I can see it in his eyes when he looks at me or when he plays his music and starts quoting the lyrics as the story of his life. I can tell he has a romantic heart, and us Scorps love a romantic, that is why I love my dreamy Pisces. All of the ones that I have dated and it has been 4. They are all still my friends and I enjoyed each relationship. I guess because I am not the clingy type, I am self sufficient, I will give them there space, maybe more than they like, but I am loyal, and fierce, I am always there if they need me and I keep it real, and will take up for them and have their back in a heartbeat. They seem to like the problem solver side to me as well, ask me any question or task and I will get it done to please my man, because pleasing him, pleases me. And I am strong enough and confident enough to know that I have this trait and I love that about myself. Pisces Men to me are the best……..and I seem to keep attracting them…….and that is all right with me. My Pisces guy started our relationship saying that he is ready to get married and he asked for a commitment from me very quickly. So we are learning each other now, we are both treading water and if somedays he chooses to swim in the other direction, I let him……he will be back……and if he doesn’t come back, then I will let him go, because one thing that I have definitely learned, you can’t keep a Pisces around that doesn’t want to be around. And actually, I don’t want him if he doesn’t want to be around. And that goes for all Men. But Pisces do have a weird way of just …………….fading to black…..LOL…….but I still love them best!

  505. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 4, 2009 at 10:04 pm


    Sorry for being so long winded. I wasn’t even going to post, but I just couldn’t help it. I have enjoyed reading your posts and hopefully I can shed some light and hope for some of you. I think this is a great place and I am so happy that I have found it and I hope it keeps going.
    I have especially loved reading from the all the Pisces Men that post, and Gracie, Beauty Queen, Tigress, and the Capricorn Lady and the Leo Lady (sorry can’t remember your names)

    My advice to the Ladies that keep getting hurt by Pisces Men is that if you just keep it moving ……….if they want to keep up they will, if they don’t or can’t they won’t.

  506. Spanish Pisces

    On December 5, 2009 at 1:25 am


    Dear SLPM.

    You have successful relationships with pisces men because you give as much as you take and because you try to offer what the pisces man needs , as opposed to what you think he should need.

    The pisces man is dreamy and loves to please his partner, but he also has his own needs and needs for them to be respected.

    A lot of woman “Get confortable” with Pisces more submissive nature and end up unconciously neglecting the pisces man needs, and then they are surprised when he takes the door and leaves them, when apparently things were “good”and blame him for being unfaithful.

    Of course this problem would be a lot easier to resolve is the Pisces men would open up completely and tell how they really feel, instead of just waiting for it, but that´s just our nature.

    All signs have their own faults, and for us to close inside ourselves and our private world when things are hurting us is one of ours.

    A lot of women are faithful and really try their best to please the pisces man, but fail to realize that they are putting all their good will and effort in the wrong direction.

    I personally am the more open kind of pisces ¿Upstream? and unless it´s something very very deep , i am at ease expressing myself and telling my feelings to my partner, but a lot of us are a lot more shy when it comes down to it and this causes trouble.

    In my case there´s only one thing that takes me a while to be able to express, and those are my kinks , because i feel very “Naked” when i talk about them with my partner, even if i know i could not be in a safer place to do so, but i end up getting over it with a bit of patience.

    I am really happy that you have such good relationships with us, and i hope that your man ends up being the right one for you.

    Take care!

  507. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 5, 2009 at 7:14 pm


    Thank You Spanish Pisces, I was hoping you, or any of the other Male Pisces, would answer, because I do have one concern, and I am actually going to speak to him about it as well. He is the first Pisces that I have dated that is scared to speak on his feelings for me. I can see them and feel them, but he must know that it is very important to verbalize them. I’m wondering if this is going to be something that will always be, or if he will eventually feel secure enough to tell me all the things in his heart. From my experience, I have had the longest and best conversations with Pisces. Pisces men are normally very intelligent, loves to read and learn, and always searching on how to better themselves because they are never satisfied. They always seem to have alot on their mind and will always share if their thoughts are complete. Conversations are always deep and I love that. My Pisces has exhibited this trait, so I am pleased, but it is the romantic side where he won’t speak on his feelings that has me concerned. Do you think once he is secure enough, he will openly discuss this as he does his next business venture.

  508. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 5, 2009 at 7:20 pm


    And actually I do have to correct myself. I will shoot him a text or email, and he doesn’t always respond but I know that he receives them, so I don’t worry. And in converstation he will comment on the text or information that was contained in the email, so that is good enough for me. Sometimes my day is going and I just like to share my thoughts with him so it is not always necessary for him to respond. I feel comfort in the fact that I am letting him know what is going on with me. One thing I have learned about a Pisces is that if they are into you, they will keep up with you, and they will read everything you send them, but they don’t always feel it is necessary to comment.

  509. Spanish Pisces

    On December 5, 2009 at 8:23 pm


    Nice to read from you again ^_^

    To be honest, this is one tough nut to crack , because only he can decide wether he´s gonna open to you or not, that´s nothing for me to tell since honestly , i can not know, and it depends on other factors apart of being pisces.

    What i can tell however, is that judgeing for what you are telling me, you are doing your best for both him and the relationship, and hence you are to expect for him to slowly open more and more to you.

    Us pisces have a hard time opening up and we do deserve some space and time to learn to do so, that, however, is not an excuse to keep our feelings forever ours and get confortable with the situation.

    Indeed, do talk to him about it, and try to make him see that, while you won´t push and stress him for it, you do hope that in a reasonable amount of time, he does open up to you.

  510. shessellingyouherdreams

    On December 7, 2009 at 9:32 pm


    Don’t fall for it. Don’t get caught up in another pisces dreamy philosophies about other pisces. RUN.

  511. shessellingyouherdreams

    On December 7, 2009 at 9:32 pm


    Don’t fall for it. Don’t get caught up in another pisces dreamy philosophies about other pisces. RUN.

  512. Spanish Pisces

    On December 7, 2009 at 10:53 pm


    Indeed
    It is a lot better if she listens to you , a poster whose only interventions are an amalgamation of accusations insults and hurtful comments based on the fact that you once got hurt by a pisces man and are unable to get over it.

    You leave nothing to the imagination when it comes to guess why did your man leave you, pisces or not, you are just a bitter, hurtful person.

  513. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 9, 2009 at 12:30 am


    LOL!!! I did have my talk with him and he was totally, bluntly honest. He told me how he felt about me and about our relationship. I love him even more now. However I did mess up a smidgen because I got to emotional and shut down, and he told me that, my reaction is why he doesn’t say anything right now. He begged me to be non-judgemental before he explained and I tried to be, I believe I was, but our situation is so complex that we both understand that we both need patience. So I understand better and I am content. I’m not selling my dreams, I am living them. And my Pisces always seems to step up to the plate when it matters most. And that is what counts most to me. I’m so happy!! I will not RUN……….I will love him until he shows me a reason not to…………

  514. Spanish Pisces

    On December 9, 2009 at 1:23 am


    I am really glad to read that.
    But indeed , as you realized yourself, try not to hurt him when he begins to open himself, otherwhise you can´t expect he keeps doing so. hehe.
    Good Luck :3 and feel free to come around from time to time to update us ^_^

  515. spanishflyswimaway

    On December 13, 2009 at 3:44 pm


    Scorpio can be deluded. But, I had a pisces man that was on my ass and I rejected him. They are liars, wishy washy, dreaming, cheaters. So, no you get over yourself. While you sit here and create this mirage that pisces really are a group of individuals that are worth dating, the rest of the world know you to be nothing but lazy, bipolar dreamers. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

  516. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 14, 2009 at 12:33 am


    I have experienced both kinds. I dated the liar/cheater and I let him just fade to black and I didn’t question it. Scorpios have an intuition like none other. I knew he was not right, but I still CHOSE to deal with him, and when he started swimming the other way I let him. Yes it hurt, because I did care for him, but I had a strong feeling in the beginning that he was not going to be right. But he was so gorgeous and charming and intellectual. He got to me. But I allowed it. And I am always true to myself. I realized that I ALLOWED it so when it was time to move on, I did. He still texts me and emails me from time to time. I respond, but I am not interested. There are all kinds of Pisces. And like the Scorpio I am, I will say that the one that I have now is a true GEM! And I appreciate him so much!! So far so good so I will not let the negative vibes affect me. I am not delusional…………far from it my friend……….I am a Scorp with eagle tendencies and I have found my song………if you know anything about Scorpios then you will know what I mean. I wish you the best…………

  517. Spanish Pisces

    On December 14, 2009 at 11:59 am


    If you are trying to make me upset, let me tell you that you fail at it big time.
    I know better than to get mad over an internet troll who can´t get over his/her own bitterness.

    To Scorpio , i do not approve of being with someone you know for him not to beright for you, even if you are in control of the situation, and even if you manage to go away from it unharmed.

    Next time you find yourself in a similar situation ( if it ever happens) , just reject him and let him go.

    I

  518. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On December 15, 2009 at 10:47 pm


    Spanish Fly, I did try very hard to stay away from him. But we had the long conversations and the wonderful dates and I was actually swept off my feet before I knew what was happening. I can talk about it lightly now, but I can also be real enough with myself now to admit I made a mistake. While I was going through it I was hurt like heck. Didn’t understand what happened, what I did to run him off, wasn’t sure why it was going the way it was going and all the while he was constantly telling me he loved me. His words said one thing and his actions said another. Never available on the weekends and never available in the evenings……..so I had to ween myself off him. Believe me, I shed my tears, but I brushed myself off and moved on. I didn’t date for a long time. Wasn’t even looking. Then I met my Present Gem and I am so happy………………..
    Spanish Fly, I won’t let it happen again, I learned a lesson……….(pinky swear) :)

  519. LOL

    On December 19, 2009 at 4:50 pm


    Hi! Ive been readin the discussion and it has left me kind of afraid of the piscis Im falling in love with….

    On one hand, hes kind of a bipolar, thats why I started looking for this sign in the first place. The problem is, it hasnt really helped me much bc i have more doubts now than i had at the beggining….I guess i should run like someone said..

    Some of you say girls should chase them, others say they like gaming so you have to be hard with them….I guess id look bipolar or even threepolar if I did whats written in this post…

    My question is simple. I met a piscean on holydays. He lives pretty far from me. I went with him for like two nights but i didnt like him much, just for fun. Then he would start saying weird things like he wanted to know me better or that he could come to live in my country. I thought he was mad cause we had met that night, so i just didnt anwser him back the proposal.

    Then we had like a fight for some stupid stuff and the day i was leaviing I saw him at his work and he was like absent. He said bipolar things, like one time i was his girl and didnt like to fight with me then insult me ….the most weird thing is he gave me his phone number and asked me to call him. which i did when i got back to my country. I made the mistake of telling him i would go and visit him and now here is the trouble;

    Shouldnt be him who comes here? I have already gone there. He barely shows up on the internet, and when he does he just asks me when im going there…but im not sure if i should go…any advice from a bipolar piscean?

    Im bipolar too so theres no insult in the word, at first i didnt give a f*** about him and now here im heating my head off trying to figure out how to behave to like him….

    Thanks in advance for the feedback. I guess men are weird no matter what his sign is!! Im a Leo by the way

  520. Spanish Pisces

    On December 19, 2009 at 7:18 pm


    “LOL”
    Do yourself a favor and ignore this man.
    For the few things you tell me, he´s obviously one of the negative sided pisces and will bring you only pain and hurtful experiences.
    Your man is not that man… and hopefully noone else´s until he fixes his issues.

  521. Moonchild

    On December 20, 2009 at 1:00 am


    Hi can anyone give me some advice. My Pisces boyfriend of 7 months ended our relationship a week ago, he says he is still completley in love but we had started to argue quite badly and he says he can’t stand hurting me. He really lost his cool with me and upset me badly.
    We didn’t communicate at all for days then I saw him out last night, he followed me around all night asking if I still loved him/wanted him/would ever take him back? I just played it cool…if he wasn’t asking me he was trying to get info from my friends about how I feel, he even cried in front of one of them. He insisted on buying me a drink and then said to me “Your always gonna be like heroin in my veins aren’t you?” I just kissed him on the cheek and thanked him for the drink.
    Later I moved on to a club with the girls, he showed up almost immediately and found me. He just kept pushing to know my feelings using every trick in the book, even using personal names he had for me, and I eventually broke down crying and admitted yes I still love him.
    Once I did he seemed to become distant again, his eyes were still on me none stop and he still wanted to talk almost constantly but he again started saying he doesn’t think it could work. He text me this morning to say he’s temporarily deleting me from Facebook to try and get over me and so he wont be tempted to contact me. He re-added me an hour later. I asked him to just be honest and he said he is dying inside and hates this so much but he doesn’t think we can work.

    We have been texting all evening, he says he misses me.

    Just 3 weeks ago he asked me if I would marry him, I said yes and he started saving for a ring, he even let my son call him Daddy.

    I know it’s crazy but I want him to come back to me so badly. We were and are still so in love. He says he knows he is gonna have to see me move on and doesn’t think he can handle it.

    He did this once before and it was exactly the same story, telling me we couldn’t work until he finally cracked and begged me to give him another chance, but this time I thnk it’s more serious. I told him when he first left how much I adore him and would do anything to make it work but he just said he is so sorry for hurting me.

    Beside the recent arguments we were perfect in every way. I adore him. Is there any way he will return to work on our relationship? What should I do?

  522. Spanish Pisces

    On December 20, 2009 at 4:02 am


    \”He says he knows he is gonna have to see me move on and doesn’t think he can handle it.\”

    That´s his only problem
    To be honest, by the things you tell me, he does not look like the man you want around your child.
    He is obviously weak and has next to no willpower and on top of that he drags you down with him everytime he sinks.
    He does not want compromise and to behave as your partner but at the same time he wants for you to stay around his side just in case he changes his mind or does not find anyone else.

    You and your kid deserve a lot better than this emotional wreckage.

  523. Moonchild

    On December 20, 2009 at 5:44 am


    Perhaps you are right and thank you for your response Spanish Pisces. It’s difficult because he was wonderful with my child and no man had ever made me feel so loved and treasured.

    I also hate how people give up on relationships when they hit a bump in the road, I tend to keep working on it until I can take no more, call me old fashioned but I don’t think relationships should be disposable. Than again this was his choice. He doesn’t seem to be making any effort to meet someone new. But we do need more stability than this.

  524. LOL

    On December 20, 2009 at 7:21 am


    Spanish Pisces, thank you for your reply. I dont see why we should talk in english since we are both spanish lol!!! But i guess its ok.

    Thaks a lot anyway. I also cant see whats the deal in making someone travel that far away if one´s not really interested but ill probably save that money. That flight is not cheap like saying; hey take the train and meet me in two hours!!

    Ill be more careful the next time im dealing with a pisces, thats for sure!!! Anyways who knows what im going to do? Not me at least…

    What a mess…

  525. LOL

    On December 20, 2009 at 7:29 am


    Moonchild, Ive no kids but as Ive read your message let me please tell you what i think.

    If you want to deal with this kind of people its ok, as im thinking if I should, but please, be very carefull with whom you let to get close to your children. He not choosing it as you are. I wouldnt let him think of him as his father as long as im not really sure of it. They can be friends but not his father.

    I dont like to give advice specially when i dont know nothing about you. But please be very very aware of your kid, hope everything goes well for you both.

  526. Moonchild

    On December 20, 2009 at 11:29 am


    Believe me my child is my number one concern. I didn’t let him start to spend time around my boyfriend until we had been together over 4 months and even then it was fleeting. But my Son really took to him and started saying “Daddy” around him all the time, we just ignored it at first but eventually he said to him “I’ll be your Daddy”.

  527. LOL

    On December 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm


    I didnt want to sound like i though your kid wasnt nº1 for you. Im pretty sure he is and im sorry If I sounded like I doubted it. im just messing up things and I dont really think it has nothing to do with being one particular horoscope. Men are weird no matter what! At least the ones in my concern.

    I really hope the best for you both. I was kind of projecting this man i met to yours and I wouldnt let him be near my kid if i had one…lol. Sorry for the projection.
    I hope the best for you both, or better the three of you ;) .

  528. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:18 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  529. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:18 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let\’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can\’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there\’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that\’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don\’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can\’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  530. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:20 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let\\\’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can\\\’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there\\\’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that\\\’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don\\\’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can\\\’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  531. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:21 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  532. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:22 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  533. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:24 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….

    However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…

    Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don\’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can\’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  534. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:26 pm


    Can anyone help please? I met my Pisces in early Oct this year then we had our first date in early Nov..everything was fine and passionate, until 4 days later he told me he will be reallocating to US next Jan!! I was so shocked and I wondered why he didnt tell me before? He said he just got the confirmation and he felt bad and didnt know how to tell me, coz he doesnt want me to walk away…so since then I acted a bit different, I started to hold back a little bit, but he kept chasing me and try to spent lots of time with me, kept telling me that he is not playing..and after 2 weeks, he had to go to US for business trip for 2 weeks..I actually think maybe thats good for us to cool down a little bit…I didnt expect he will do anything…but when he arrived US, he sent me emails, sms almost everyday, sometimes he called to say hi, or every morning and evening he will be on skype waiting for the video call with me…he was just soo sweet!! I also surprised him, I sent a box of candy to his hotel during the thanksgiving, when he received it he called me immediately and he was soo happy and surprised…everything was just prefect! We felt so in love with each other….However, stupid me..I mean..before he came back, I started getting nervous, coz I knew he is leaving soon in Jan, and I am really scared to see him again, so when he came back that night…I cooked a very nice dinner for him,( yeah I got his key to his flat, everyone was surprised that he gave me his key within 2 weeks…), by the time he arrived home, the dinner was ready, we had a nice chat and sweet quality time as well….until I raised up the question of what does he think we are going to do as he is leaving..he said he has no solution, and he doesnt believe in long distance relationship…I felt so sad tho, forget to mention that we both are in Asia now…then he told me he doesnt want me to get so hurt, he asked if anything he can do to ease my hurt, I said yes, let’s stop seeing each other then…he asked if this is what my heart and my mind want, I said no, but I can’t take it anymore….then we didnt say anything but he was cuddling me in the sofa…lots of feelings and tears, I cried but he didnt..I believe he felt bad as well…I actually prepared a gift for him, so I gave him the gift, he was so surprised again….after he felt alseep, I left his place…since then, we stopped seeing and calling each other for over 3 weeks…and last weekend..we finally got to see each other again…as expected,we spent quality time together,lots of talks,funs and joys..at the end he insisted me to stay at his place, so I stayed and everything was fine…however, I can feel there’s a wall in between us..we didnt touch the topic of our relationship, as we both know the situation is going to be the same, but at the same time we still have feelings toward each other, that’s why we end up spent the night together….it was just great to be with him again but feelings does not the same anymore…howcome? And after last Sunday,which was just yesterday, he didnt call me, and I didnt call him either…Can anyone advise what is in his mind? Is there a chance that we can go back to before? I don\’t really care about the result now, I just want to spend the time with him before he leaves, the rest I will leave it to the flow..and I really want to know if he is still interested in me? He seems trust me a lot as he went out on Sunday morning and he told me I can stay at his place and use his computer, when he came back in the late afternoon he actually asked me if I can stay until Monday, but I say no coz I got some wok to do on monday so I left at night… I believe if I call him he will still see me…but why he can’t call me first?? As like in the beginning he was so proactive. What can I do now and do you think he will call me again if I dont call him? Any ideas? Thanks all for your help!!! I really need some advises! Thanks!

  535. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:29 pm


    Oh I am sooo sorry for those posts…there’s something wrong with the posting so I kept pressed submit and after I refreshed, it end up shown I posted the same thing many times!! So sorry guys!!!!

  536. Confused Libra

    On December 21, 2009 at 12:35 pm


    I am terrible sorry guys for those posts, there’s something wrong with the system as it kept telling me there’s an error so I kept pressing the submit button! End up it shown me I had 7 posts here!! I am really really sorry to all of you! Please accept my apologies!! Thanks a lot!

  537. RUNLIBRA!

    On December 21, 2009 at 5:25 pm


    Girl leave him. He didn\’t have the decency to tell you that he was going to the US. If he had a spine he\’d probably wanted to mention that a little ahead of time, dontchathink? He isn\’t worth you trying to figure out because he made it really clear that he was going to the US and didnt want to pursue the relationship any further. They like to have people figure them out and chase them that\’s their sick little insecurities because 99.9% of them don\’t have enough self esteem to actually get validated by doing things straight forward. They like for you to try to chase them and figure them out. Once you do, they will dump you. Go on and bless your God (whoever you may call him or her) that you were rid of him so quickly.

  538. Confused Libra

    On December 22, 2009 at 4:41 am


    Thanks RUNLIBRA, it’s always easier said than done :( In this relationship with my Pisces, I am always the one leading it, I was always the one wanted to stop and he’s the one always coming back to me..it’s not I don’t love him, I care so much for him and I wanted to be with him, but at the same time, I know he is leaving and I can’t take it further, you might say I am reserved, yes I am, and self-protection….he didn’t called on monady after last weekend we spent time together, and while I was reading this site, he suddenly called! I didnt pick up the call and he left voice mail, he asked me if I am going to Europe for xmas or if I have got my new job, he is still cared….my heart is so soft and I always have to fight it back! I wish I can be tough but how can it be if you have feelings towards each other? He did nothing wrong to me and instead he treats me very good and sweet, it is just he is leaving soon…..so it’s even harder.

    Spanish Pisces, what do you think about this Pisces? He is very responsive, whatever I sent him emails, messages, calls, 99% he will reply back immediately. Even if he missed my calls, he will always call back. Whatever I told him, he always remembers…some he will follow up with phone calls, like last Sunday I told him I might go to Europe for xmas, so he called right now and left voicemail asked if I am leaving and asked me to call him back….I am not playing games with him, but I think it would be great if we can have some spaces for each other, only 3 weeks left then he will be gone…what’s the point to carry on? He is a very romantic guy I must say, same as what you’ve described here, he is also very sensitive, and he seldom initiate any topics regarding relationship. The best communication method with him is through text, such as emails, while he was in US, he sent me all the emails that’s full of love and care, however, while in person or in video call he will always act funny and he loves to leasing me all the time. It’s completely different, the way he expresses in writing and the way he shows me in person are so different. But I enjoy both of them….

    Anyway, the situation is a bit different now as we didnt see each other for few weeks, and suddenly we hanged out again and spent a lovely weekend together, feelings are still there, but also distance, I am not sure where is this distance from, or both of us are much more reserved than before… Any clue and what does he wants? He is not a young boy, he is around 33yrs old, does age matter to make those Pisces more mature and clear of what they want??

    Thanks all and wish you all and your beloved ones a very merry christmas and happy new year!! Cheers~~ Libra~

  539. Spanish Pisces

    On December 22, 2009 at 4:13 pm


    As much as i know that you are back to flame us pisceans, for once i must agree with you, RUNLIBRA!
    That guy does indeed seem weak and what he did was not nice at all, he is not worth of her affection and efforts.

    However, i would really like it when you stop systematically flaming us everytime someone does a question , it is getting old.

    You speak of us all like trash, and each of us is a different world, and you should understand that, while zodiacal signs can affect on people´s behaviour, there´s tons of other things that affect our lifes like our upbringing , our family , the people around us and the chances life offered to us.

    So it would be nice when you can stop simply spitting on us everytime you partecipate.

  540. Spanish Pisces

    On December 22, 2009 at 4:21 pm


    To you, ConfusedLibra, i am sorry to say that i do agree with runlibra on this one.
    Even if he was the best guy in the world, it is still a fact that he
    is leaving and that will make your relationship impossible.
    Please, do a favor to yourself and do not get entangled into a online relationship with him.
    You deserve a lot better and i do believe that you can get so.

    I am glad that he has tried to make it up to you and that he has been nice and attentive to you this last days, and this are memories that you can hold dear , but focus on yourself, and find a man that, not only is good to you , but is also there for you , side by side , and day by day, and not some dream that is gonna vanish as soon as you wake up.

  541. gracie

    On December 22, 2009 at 8:45 pm


    To confused libra: I believe you could be making a mistake. I was once in your situation & most of the time men don’t tell us things, simply because they don’t want to hurt us. pisces men aren’t good at seeing you hurt, isn’t that what they say about them anyways! I was trying to protect my feelings just like you, and ended my relationship before he left. then i realized that i would rather spend a moment with him than none at all. and we both made that last week memorable together! if you love him, then just be with him and let the rest happen if it’s going to happen at all. You’re wasting time together that can make a difference! a year later we moved in together and the long distance stopped! now we have a 3 year old son 6 years later. so, it can work, you just gotta keep the hope alive* run-go tell him how much you love him & how much you are going to miss him! its better to have a broken heart even then to never have loved at all.

  542. Confused Libra

    On December 22, 2009 at 10:42 pm


    Dear Gracie, how long you had been with your pisces man before he left your country?

  543. ifweagreesomethingiswrong

    On December 23, 2009 at 5:24 am


    Girl run. If spanish pisces and I agree, then you know something is up. Listen, if he liked you he would try to include you. I know that it’s easier said than done. I am trying to help you avoid the heartache. Don’t guess with him. Look at reality. I pray that you are able to get what you seek for him. But from my experience a man that wants you will make an effort.

  544. Spanish Pisces

    On December 23, 2009 at 7:46 am


    As the everchanging nicknamed poster said, if he was serious about you he would do this best effort to include you into the equation.
    And no, do not go and tell him so, because then he will say that ofc he is willing to , but at the end he will never get anything done.

    If he does not show any intention to make you a serious part of his life by himself, do not ask him to and leave him.

  545. Confused Libra

    On December 23, 2009 at 10:28 pm


    Dear both, thanks so much for your concern…I am sorry guys coz actually we met and had a talk about our relationship last night. I told him about my feelings, however, I got his meaning that he will be extremely occupied by his work and what have to be done before he leaves….he admits he still have feelings for me but less than before after we stop seeing each other for few weeks and he didnt really have time to think about that coz he was super busy. He also said he will barely have time for me coz so much things need to be done before he leaves….I was fine and clear, of course there\’s a little bit disappointment but wasn\’t that bad, you know, I just want the answer and clear the situation so I can move on! I hate to hanging there and don\’t know what\’s going on…so after the meeting I messaged him and I said \” I understood that you dont want to spend the rest of the time together and I respect your decision. Wish you a merry xmas and a happy new year\”. Then suddenly he replied \” Hey you sound so dramatic, I\’ll have to kick your ass for that, if you allow me this language, I\’ll talk to you soon\” I was confused again, as I think he was clear that he is not going to do anything, but his reply obviously means something else…so I replied back and asked \”what exactly you mean by dramatic?\” and after few hours, he called me…I was away to the washroom and my dear best friend picked up the call for me!! When I came back she passed me the phone and she said it\’s him! I wouldn\’t pick up the call if I was there but well, I have to talk to him as he was already on the phone, he asked where I am and I told him that I am with my girlfriends in a bar, I invited him if he wanted to join but he said no coz he got something else to do….and later on when I finished my party, stupid me, I mean yeah..I called him back, I wanted to see him as I was somewhere close to his flat, we talked on the phone for awhile and I asked if we can meet, he refused…he said no, it\’s useless, I was a bit insisted and he said not tonight…I feel that I am such a fool~ then I cut off the phone and left, I told him that I will never force him to do anything he doesnt want. I felt bad for my misbehave, I shouldn\’t have called him back in the middle of the night and acted so desperate, he just kept confusing me, I thought he was pretty clear then suddenly all such messages and calls after the conversation….and I messed it up….this experience actually never really happened to me before…I was always under control and I normally can make a move if something is wrong there…however, this time, I am completely screw it up….my heart aches…badly…

  546. Spanish Pisces

    On December 24, 2009 at 2:05 am


    Dear Libra.

    Please, ignore him and regain control.
    I can understand what are you feeling because a couple years ago, i too was in a relationship with a girl, where i put myself into a unfavorable position like you are doing now, and trust me, at the end there was just tears.

    I think you need to analyze coldly all the things he said and done.

    1) He hidden the fact he had to go away
    2)He is going away.
    3)He admits his feelings for you are less.
    4)He admits he will not have barely any time for you before he goes
    5)He refuses to meet with you even tho he knows how you feel.

    Open your eyes :(

    He is obviously not a fair man, and no matter how many sweet things he whispers to your ear when you meet, that does not make him the right man for you.

    He is keeping you around just in case something pops up or he changes his mind and because it strokes his little ego to have a wonderful girl be at his feet on demand.

    But you should stop letting him abuse you like that.

    Come on , you can find another wonderful guy that will treat you right and that will make you happy, you deserve it and you WILL have it.

    And for this story… it is just brining pain to you, and more pain is all what awaits you if you follow it´s path.

    Please, you deserve a lot more.

  547. Confused Libra

    On December 24, 2009 at 2:41 am


    Dear Spanish Pisces,

    Thanks so much and I am ready to move on! I understood what you mean and yeah I was a fool…Allow me to be less humble here but I am actually a very pretty and confident girl, I just dont get myself why I fell into him and lost my control like that. I can always control well of myself and I am a decent girl. You are right that I deserve a lot more…Thank you so much dear!!!

    I am going out for party tonight and to get my new life back!! Enough is enough!! I have deleted his number and all his messages, first time in my life I have to do this to a guy… he actually mention himself is a coward, good to know he knew.

    Spanish Pisces, thanks again and I wish you a very merry christmas! take care and talk soon!

  548. Spanish Pisces

    On December 24, 2009 at 4:57 am


    Dear Libra.
    I am glad that you were able to move on and i am also glad that this weeks of pain and nightmare did not scar your confidence and self esteem.
    Also, know that falling like that for someone is perfectly fine once you find your gonna be husband, but it´s wasted sentiment and effort for weekend dancefloor crushes.
    I hope you will have a wonderful evening with your friends at the
    party and have in mind that he may try and contact you , just ignore him.
    And remember there´s always the police if he gets stalker like , altho being the coward he admits himself to be, i doubt he will do so.

    And as much as i hate to say it, you should also thank our randomly named poster for her intervention.
    As much as she tends to be unnecessarily hurtful , she was right this time and deserves her part of the praise, so to speak.

    Have a happy Christmas and hope to talk soon too.

    Keep us updated! ;)

  549. Spanish Pisces

    On December 24, 2009 at 4:59 am


    I would like to wish a merry Christmas to ALL of the people that posted in this article at some point.
    Have a wonderful Christmas and a happy new year.
    Cheers!

  550. gracie

    On December 24, 2009 at 5:03 pm


    to confused libra: he wasn’t a pisces. he was a libra. i just meant that we had a similar situation. it sounds to me like you have to recognize that he should be making more time for you. he should have been less of a coward and dedicated more time to you. its not fair to you that he leaves u alone to deal with the heartache when he should be there for you too comforting you and reassuring you. everyone-Have a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year too! libra, 2010 can hold many possibilities if you allow it to!

  551. SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMEN

    On December 24, 2009 at 7:05 pm


    HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!!!!
    My pisces is away for the holiday with his children…….(see complicated) I am so ready for 2010 to get here. New beginnings and hopefully less complications. I am ready to see our realtionship go to the next level. We have been coasting so long. He has really been patient with me. I am going to try to be more involved in our relationship moving forward.

  552. Confused Libra

    On December 24, 2009 at 10:48 pm


    Dear All,

    It’s so warm to have all of your supports and I didn’t expect all the responses that I can get here. It really touches me! Thank you so much again for all your help, especially to Spanish Pisces.

    I sent him an sms yesterday to apologies my misbehavior (as I was pretty pushy to see him that night), you guys might think I shouldn’t have done so, but well, I felt much better as it’s my mistake. I don’t mind if he doesn’t respect me, but I always believe if you don’t want someone to do something you don’t like, I shouldn’t do the same. So I still respect him as a human-being. That’s why I sent him a message, to apologies my misbehavior and I also asked him to take good care and wish him all the best. I think this is pretty much clear to him that I am moving on. After I sent that message I feel much better and feels like I am putting a full stop to this dream.

    I had a great night out with my friends last night and I really getting over him. As long as I got the answer, not hanging there, I can move quickly, well, of course, I still thinking about him, I can’t just delete him from my memory and I don’t need to, I forgive but will never forget. To forget someone you loved is like you try to remember someone you’ve never met. Time will help. And if he really calls, I also believe he might call to say goodbye before he leaves, he has no guts to see me I think :) I don’t need to ignore him but I will not see him again, it’s impossible and no way back to before, enough is enough, he doesnt know how much he hurts me, maybe he knows, but doesn’t matter anymore, every heart means to break before it can be mended. No one can go back to make a brand new start, but everyone can start now and make a brand new ending. He ruined it and it’s his lost, not mine. This is a good lesson and we always learn from mistakes, this is why life is always interesting and beautiful…Life goes on no matter what, doesn’t make sense to stuck in certain stage for too long, of course it’s always easier said than done, but as the most powerful creature we are – Human, we all have the power to handle it! We need to have believe in ourselves and believe everything happens for a reason!

    Happy holidays guys and wish you the best of the best in life and love! May all your days be surrounded by joy, love and happiness. May the holidays refresh your spirit and bring you new inspiration, love and happiness!! Cheerssss~~ :)

    Spanish Pisces, I sent you a message to your Triond mail box, please check! Thanks again dearest all! We will stay in touch!!

    With Love,
    Clear Libra :) )

  553. Confused Libra

    On December 24, 2009 at 10:55 pm


    The best is just yet to come :) Cheers all~

  554. Lady Bull

    On December 26, 2009 at 7:36 pm


    I’m a Taurus woman (5/14) dating a Pisces man (3/10). It has been somewhat of a rollercoaster ride but with more ups than downs. We get along great. Initially we had some communication issues but I think that was because we were still learning each other. We had a few arguments. That’s the problem. He thinks things should be perfect 100% of the time. If we argue it’s a battle for days and always hurts our relationship. I’m the type to try & grow from a disagreement but he’s the opposite. He lets one disagreement form a gap between us. A few months ago we had a talk about taking our relationship to the next level. He said he was unsure because I pushed him away with some of our past disagreements. I was hurt so I decided to give him space. He never let more than a day or 2 pass without contacting me. I slowly let him come back. I didn’t want to appear desperate nor open myself up to being hurt again. The past 3 months have been great. We’ve gotten closer than we ever have. Well, this past week I found something that made me a little jealous so I asked him about it. I may have been a little upset but not very much. He got mad. The next day I said that I didn’t want to lose what we’ve accomplished and he agreed. I told him why I felt jealous and that tough he treats me well and makes me feel special I just wanted reassurance. He appeared to have understood and I asked if we were okay and he said we were. I could still tell he was upset. I spoke with him later that evening and there was still some tension there & he told me to stop pushing him away. I told him that that was not my intent and I care for him deeply. The following day I spoke with him and things didn’t seem better. I asked him what we were doing and he said he didn’t know. I asked him was this how we were leaving things and his response was “I’m not saying that”. I told him that I would give him space. Within a half hour he was texting me pictures. So I figured maybe he didn’t want space. So the following day I contacted him. I didn’t get my normal honey, baby, etc. so I joked about it and he said I was bringing the drama. He was very short and cold with me. He has never treated me that way before. I asked him did he want to work things out he said that he was busy and would talk to me later (he’s never been too busy for me before). I told him it was a yes or no and he wouldn’t give me an answer. He said that I’ve lost my privileges because I don’t appreciate him and what he’s done and I’ve proven myself to be a typical woman. He said I was the one throwing away what we accomplished together. I was in complete shock. I have been nothing but kind to him and I try to show and tell him time and time again how much I care and appreciate him. I sent him a text saying that I didn’t want to lose what we had and asked if he felt the same. He said “we’re cool”. I sent him a message back asking what that meant. Does that mean we’re just friends or are we still on a romantic level? He never responded. I know he got and read the message b/c my phone shows it. He’s never ignored me before. Yesterday I got a text from him with our usual good morning (no honey, baby, etc.) and wishing me and my family a Merry Christmas. I replied with the same. I also sent him a text of a pic he wanted and he never responded. What should I do? I really care about him and want to make it work yet I’m not going to chase him. I apologized and told him how I felt. Does he just need space? Will he come back? Or is he gone forever and I should just move on? Please help. I’d love to hear from Pisces men as well.

  555. Spanish Pisces

    On December 27, 2009 at 4:10 am


    What you need to do is regain some control.
    You have to grab him and have a face to face talk about your relationship and about how he feels about you.
    If he really loves you, then he has to stop being a dramaqueen and has to take responsabilities and some level of compromise.

    He is acting like a big , spoiled kid, as soon as something does not go as he wants, he acts cold cause he knows it´s what it hurts you the most.

    Either he grows up and learns to be worthy of you , or you may as well want to find a MAN, and not a kid.

    Sorry for being harsh , but that´s pretty much it.

  556. Lady Bull

    On December 27, 2009 at 8:53 pm


    I totally agree. He contacted me today, he’s still not the same and to be honest I’m irritated that he acts like a big baby as you stated. You’re not being harsh, just confirming what I’ve been thinking. I really haven’t responded to him much today because I just don’t really have anything to say to him right now.

  557. tina

    On December 29, 2009 at 1:36 am


    Pisces man is love hunting. They want to be love and care but unable to care for others. I’m Aries woman have been hurt by pisces man many time. They are artistic and imiginative but selfish. It twist ….Pisces man can be abbusive..

    They run from other woman to the other… unable to accept mistake..but no one is perfect

  558. SAGITTARIUS WOMAN KNOWS BEST

    On December 30, 2009 at 2:40 am


    This past summer I met a Pisces man and we casually dated over the summer, whatever, no big deal—> I usually go on 2-4 dates per week, not a big relationship girl, not emotional or clingy—Sagittarius girl in the flesh. I just like to have boys adore me and do what I want, that’s that… 5 months after we started dating my Pisces man admitted that I was the only woman he was dating and I naturally admitted he was 1 of 5 men in my basket—> needless to say, that shot his confidence down and he decided that wanted me all for himself. With that, I decided to feed his ego, be his girlfriend and give him the PRIZE OF BEING MY BOYFRIEND. Obviously, I am confident, know my worth and I’m not afraid to let a him know how lucky HE IS to have ME. At any hint of “Pisces” bullsh**, he knows IT’S OVER! DONE! and he isn’t irreplacable. I’ll have 3 new eggs in my basket before he can try to explain himself. KEY LADIES: Be the carrot and let him sweat for it. I love him. we’re committed and extremely happy—> I have the best man a woman could ever want, attentive, loving, charming, handsome and he can have any woman he lays the blue eyes on—> however, he won his prize girlfriend (me) and now he has to work for his trophy wife (me). I’m on vacation in a tropical paradise while he’s snowed in overseas and do you think I feel bad? Nope. It would me nice to make love to him on the beach (and I told him this) but it is what it is, face value is how I see things. LADIES STOP overanalyzing your relationships and live for you. Once you realize this, you won’t have to “work” for a Pisces, Aqua, Scorpio or any other man to love you. Love yourself and let it just happen, it seems as though all the women on this thread are the only ones swimming against the current. Who says fire and water don’t mix? Fire and water creates steam; And with steam, you can power a train… I LOVE MY PISCES MAN!

  559. Spanish Pisces

    On December 30, 2009 at 1:08 pm


    Obvious troll is obvious.
    Sorry, not gonna fall for your game.

  560. OneGemAndAFish

    On December 30, 2009 at 10:06 pm


    I was involved with a pisces male for over 3 years, and im sorry to say i would have to agree with most of the negative statements made about them here. I am a gemini female. He blamed me for almost every thing that went wrong in our relationship..sorry not almost…EVERYTHING..he shut down on me and claimed that he didnt love me, 2 months after becoming engaged. He finally withdrew from me when i became pregnant with our daughter, and frankly didnt want to know me. It was hard to deal with, as i had never been treated with such in difference before. When i decided to forget him, he was back, and with me being pregnant, i needed him there and allowed him to be there. Anyway..since having my daughter, he has behaved as if seeing her and looking after her is a chore he would rather not do. He drives me crazy. If i could only turn back time. Having a child with now means i have to have him in my life which i hate. Im sick and tired of him being nice with me one day, then cold and indifferent the next. He is defitnately NOT the person i met and fell in love with. I have seriously considered cutting all ties with him, because i can not deal with his behavior. *sigh*…it really is exhausting. Pisces Men are extremely confusing and immature, and after my experience ..although i like to take each person on their own merit..if i met another Piscean i would seriously run.

  561. Spanish Pisces

    On December 31, 2009 at 6:37 am


    Before starting, it would be nice when people would stop generalizing and blaming/insulting the whole piscean community out of their own bad experiences.

    Anyone with half a brain will understand that there is bad apples in all the baskets and that the other signs are not extempt at all of bad, hurtful men, and that pisces are, by no means, the one with the biggest amount of evil guys.

    The fact you read so many stories about pisces here , it´s cause, duh , it´s a pisces article.
    Should you browse the web and search for examples of bad guys from another sign, you would find them in the thousands.

    In my last relationship. i was engaged with a Gemini female, and it was her, self admitted, that didin´t take the relationship seriously.
    When she first met me, she thought it was just a light crush, so when things got serious, she was not ready for it and ultimately she was not able to compromise.
    No problem, we are still friends and talk on a daily basis.

    But now, according to your logic, i could go around and yell
    ” Gemini girls are great friends, but don´t ask them anything serious cause they wont be able to deal with compromise” just out of my own, bad experience?

    No i can´t, because there´s wonderful Gemini girls out there that do not deserve being put in the shame bag just because i got a bad experience myself.

    I also had a bad experience a few years ago with a Scorpio , supposedly my best match, and i don´t go blaming the zodiac because it didint work out as we expected it to.

    You gals really need to understand that there´s A LOT of different things that make you the person you are, that have nothing to do with your zodiac sign, such as your upbringing, your education , the people you have around, your neighbourhood, the chances life given to you….

    So yeah, it is perfectly fine when you come here to share your problems, to seek advice , or to simply rant a bit and take some pain out of your system , but please, try not to add us all in the same sack, and understand that, there is decent pisces man out there that do not deserve this treatement.

  562. Spanish Pisces

    On December 31, 2009 at 12:15 pm


    “OneGemAndAFish”, let me see if i get this right.
    You were with a man that told you he did not feel for you anymore, that he was treating you wrong and that he would desert you whenever he felt like it, and you allowed yourself getting pregnant of such a man?

  563. Spanish Pisces

    On December 31, 2009 at 7:15 pm


    Happy New Year to Everybody.!

  564. Taurus Woman

    On December 31, 2009 at 10:34 pm


    I am a taurus have been in 2 long term relationships with leos who just bossed me around then i got with a Cancer man who just smothered me now i am casually seeing a Pisces for the past 11 months I let him swim every which way while he is swimming around I dig in my garden we are great together and great apart, he does say he will come around on a certain date but never turns up and when he does I don’t mention that he didn’t turn up, even last night he was supposed to call and maybe take me out New years eve I had no other plans so I thought maybe that he would finally remember the arrangement BUT no I text him happy new year, still no reply but you know what he will be back and his lovin far out ways his manipulating forgetfulness You may think I am weak that I put up with this fishy but after those Leo’s and the Cancer I find him a breath of fresh air I like his unpredictability.

  565. Spanish Pisces

    On December 31, 2009 at 10:52 pm


    Just because you have been treated WORSE by other man, does not mean you should allow him to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
    You can find a wonderful man that will treat you like you deserve.
    Not wishing a happy new year to the person you love is something serious <.<

  566. Taurus Woman

    On January 1, 2010 at 2:36 am


    I think so too but thought maybe because he is a fishy with thoughts all over the place I could let him get away with it, love has never been spoken about with us we avoid the subject but I have realized that I must be in love with him because it has hurt me so much that he hasn’t even replied !! When he swims my way again I shall dig my hooves in and not be quite so forgiving!!

  567. OneGemAndAFish

    On January 2, 2010 at 7:01 am


    @Spanish Pisces..i was already pregnant by the time the full cold fish antics came to the surface.

  568. ms farley

    On January 4, 2010 at 1:21 am


    oh pisces men shouldn’t be allowed to date. They just put on an act that is the way they are. They would be great actors though.

  569. pleasegetoverurself

    On January 4, 2010 at 5:35 am


    Everyone isn’t a troll that have negative things to say about your dear water sign. Perhaps pisces are just THAT bad. Get over it. Let them vent. Pisces men do like to wander and they are cheaters. That’s not just a stereotypical thing. It’s facts. If you love playing cat and mouse games for the rest of your life while he fiddles around creating the next fantasy then he’s the right one. But if you don’t plan on spending the rest of your life on a message board trying to decipher his dreamy thoughts, then perhaps you need to find another guy. Sag, whenever you decide to slow down and really want a commitment he’s going to be gone. He enjoys you because you project a confidence, however let your guard down and then see how stable your relationship is. Ladies get over the facade and have a happy new year with yourself.

  570. Spanish Pisces

    On January 5, 2010 at 8:32 am


    “Everyone isn’t a troll that have negative things to say about your dear water sign.”

    Had you read my posts, which you obviously did not, you would see i do not defend all pisces and i have, in fact, agreed on some of the cases where a pisces was abusing one of the users who posted their stories here.

    “Perhaps pisces are just THAT bad. Get over it.”

    Noone is good or bad out of a sign. Get over it.

    “Pisces men do like to wander and they are cheaters. That’s not just a stereotypical thing.”

    You may want to google “xrandomsign man cheated on me”, you may be surprised, not that i expect you to admit to it tho.

  571. Spanish Pisces

    On January 5, 2010 at 8:44 am


    Google global results for the sentence “sign cheated on me” :

    SAGGITARIUS cheated on me : 174.000
    PISCES cheated on me : 281.000
    AQUARIUS cheated on me : 344.000
    VIRGO cheated on me : 344.000
    ARIES cheated on me : 378.000
    CAPRICORN cheated on me: 382.000
    LIBRA cheated on me : 386.000
    TAURUS cheated on me : 402.000
    SCORPIO cheated on me : 478.000
    GEMINI cheated on me : 513.000
    LEO cheated on me : 1.660.000
    CANCER cheated on me : 5.480.000

    Perhaps i am not the one who has to “Get over it” after all.

  572. gemini_loss

    On January 8, 2010 at 6:10 am


    hi,
    I am a gemini gal, my fish who i dated for 7 yrs, betrayed me 5 mths ago.
    He told me he left that woman and truly loves me only.
    He tried to assure me by telling me his whereabouts for 1st month only (but no assurance on how to move on our relation after the infidelity)
    I am traumatize. I wanted to forgive him but I duno why for one whole month I keep crying and super emo when I see him.
    One day, he said had enough and says he wants to take some space away from me but do not want a breakup yet.
    I feel it was unfair for him to ask for space since he is the one who do me wrong. Since then I have been pestering him every few days for an answer.
    Each time he will just tell me ” i just want space, leave me alone, I will come back and give an answer ”
    And when I probe on what answer, he will say ” i duno,I just want space now”
    And when I ask “do u still love me”, he will say ” i duno, perhaps ?”
    One day, i tried asking him is he trying to make me initiated a breakup , again his answer is ” no, i need space, I dun want breakup”

    I am so loss now with his attitude, I am left hanging…
    His fren told me he is restless at work and very moody recently, he just refuses to confide to anyone what he is thinking now.
    I have a feeling I am losing him as I caused too much drama over this infidelity.

    The zodiac says the harder u push the fish, he will swim to the opposite direction.
    Help help pls i am stuck for 5 months in same situation now, i duno if i really needs to let go or just wait ? I do not wish to let go this relation, I love him

  573. Spanish Pisces

    On January 8, 2010 at 9:19 am


    Please, do yourself a favor and ignore this man.
    He´s betrayed you once, and now keeps you hanging just in case he does not find anything better to pass his time with.
    “And when I ask “do u still love me”, he will say ” i duno, perhaps”
    This alone is motive enough for him to leave him behind.

    You deserve someone who loves, respects and really wants you, and not some emotional mess that takes you and leaves you on a whim.

    Being stressed at work is not an excuse to walk all over someone.

    I understand it´s very hard to break up on something that has lasted for as long as yours did, but you need to move on and to live life for yourself, and to find a wonderful man that will REALLY take care of you.

  574. Spanish Pisces

    On January 8, 2010 at 9:21 am


    Meant “for you to leave him behind”, sorry bout that.

  575. Pisces

    On January 10, 2010 at 6:32 am


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  576. Pisces(male)

    On January 10, 2010 at 7:21 am


    To me seems it that many of you are being extremely unsympathetic and harsh to Pisces men. I am one and its not easy. I get so confused and caught with my emotions most of the time I end of doing things I myself cannot stand. I do not know about other Pisces males but I often spend my time thinking and for the most part I do not think too fondly of myself and so i certainly do not want to be criticized by others. Imagine being multiple people and feeling multiple emotions, desires, concerns, and confusing thoughts all the time that’s what it is like to be a Pisces male( mentally).I know that many woman can be hurt a Pisces man and most of the time there is not no excuse for the cruel things were very complicated and unfortunately cannot communicate with others. I do my best to communicate with other people but it always comes out wrong and I hate that about me. I think what most of us are looking for is love, understanding and acceptance. I often fight with myself on what to do with everything and frankly am tired of this habit but cannot help but do it. .The mind games you assume were playing are just poorly executed expressions of all the contradicting and confusing thoughts that we feel (and trust me it does not stop). I do not know what people you people want from us but I just am tired of trying to please everyone. As far as this belief that we like women to dominate us it is not as simple as that. See it is because we are so indecisive that Pisces male may seek a woman of that sort (it is a giant relief not having to figure out and deciding on every little thing). But thats just my opinion on that matter. I believe that the best way to communicate with us is to be direct but not aggressive or demanding when doing so. Have patience, use a soft tone, and give us time to think. Its the little things we notice and cherish dearly. Oh and for you women who want to seek a relationship with a Pisces male please just tell him so because trust me even though he may feel the same way he may never have the confidence to tell you so( trust me I myself am experiencing that problem right now and cannot bring myself to be direct and I would be so relived if she were to tell me that she felt the same way).If you open up to us we will open up to you but be careful with that come trust( something we seek, take seriously, and might be unforgiving of) .

  577. gemini_loss

    On January 10, 2010 at 11:26 pm


    Dear spanish pisces, I wish i have the guts to move on…

    i went by his house last weekend, I was shocked that he loss so much weight. I dun think he is putting on an act, his face literally show a big “STRESS”

    He didn’t like my surprise visit at all :
    ” Believe it or not, I am really not seeing that woman anymore. Yes I have done u wrong, now i need time to think over our relation. I still have feelings for you but i couldn’t give u any form of assurance.
    I dun know what i want in my life now, I feel I am loss, my career, my love is in a huge mess.
    You are the victim but my life isn’t getting well either.
    All i need from u is time, pls respect me, I do not want to see you at the moment, i dun want to behave nasty to you. I seek peace n dun wish to talk to anyone at all. When I am ready I will come clean with u ! ”

    His parents told me he had stopped going to work, quiet most of the day at home.
    Whenever they try to communicate wif him, he just swim away.
    Mid-life crisis for my fish ?? He is retreating from the world.
    And me ? I feel like an unsympathetic Gemini, a destroyer to his life now.

  578. OneGemAndAFish

    On January 12, 2010 at 12:27 am


    Forget him gemini_loss…or he will send you crazy!..These men born under this sign are some of the weakest, confusing men i have ever known or heard of, even the Pisces men in my family are the same with the women in their lives, and they are now single, alone and disturbed. Wishy washy pathetic losers. Leave him to swim about and get lost in that big ocean of their minds! Go get yourself a real man honey!

  579. OneGemAndAFish

    On January 12, 2010 at 12:35 am


    @pisces male. Your right about indecisiveness. Ask a Pisces male what he wants for his dinner…lol..he will never be able to tell you..because he truly does not know. Ask him where he would like to go on a night out?..errm…he still doesn’t know!..Ask him whether you should wear the blue skirt or the black one?…(dont even bother!!)..lol..jeez..im so glad im a gemini!!

  580. Spanish Pisces

    On January 13, 2010 at 12:55 am


    OneGemAndAFish, you are welcome to have your own opinion about us fish men, however, i would have you restrain yourself from being as agressive and hurtful as you are being.
    Sentences such as “Wishy washy pathetic losers”
    “Go get yourself a real man” and the rest of venom charged sentences you have been spewing in your last posts are totally unnecessary and do not make you appear as a better person than the men you are blaming.
    Also, you sure are an expert into pointing out all the zodiac described bad points of us pisces, however you seem to totally ignore or even corrupt the good sides, and you refuse to aknowledge that a man is not just his birth sign , but also a lot of different things such as the upbringing , education and life experiences. A sign may indicate how a person MAY end up being in genera terms, but is by no means a definitive or failsafe description about every individual born between those days.
    Also , you refuse to aknowledge the well known concept that there is TWO kind of pisces, the downstreams and the upstreams, and that the upstream pisces differ from those things you love to rub on our faces.

    I honestly do not know what happened to you to be as bitter and hurtful as you are, but you honestly need to learn to move on.

    I , and a couple more users are here to help people who are honestly asking for objective opinions and support on a difficult time with their loved ones, and all what you are doing is pouring your pain and bitterness into every answer and trying to break up as many fish relationships as you can, no matter if the fish guy actually did something wrong or not.

    Seriously , this is not somewhere for you to release your frustrations at, this is a place where people come asking for advice and help.

    So feel free to stick around and give an OBJECTIVE opinion based on each person´s story , but stop already with the flamebaiting.

    I know typing this is like talking to a wall, because after how many weeks i have been repeating myself, it´s obvious you do not care and probably have fun just trying to provoke me into an arguement, but well, you can´t say i did not try to reason with you.

  581. SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMEN

    On January 14, 2010 at 3:30 pm


    Still going strong here, but it is not all strawberry’s and ice cream. Every relationship takes work and we have run into some issues that have made the road bumpy. But the one thing that I do love about a Pisces Man is that, if they are into you and the relationship, they like to be very present in the moment with thier significant other and vested in the relationship. They do seem to need thier down time where they regroup, but I believe that is because they put so much of themselves into everything that they do, the things they care about. I love how my Pisces guy is totally engrossed in our moments and our time is always quality time. I love how his focus is completely on me when we are together. I love his romantic, whimsical side and his freedom to express himself. I love how he is straight forward and doesn’t hesitate to express his needs or his wants. I love how He makes specific time just for me and even says it is my time and his attention is totally undivided. I also love his dedication to making our relationship work. We have issues because he has been single for his entire life. I have been in a long marriage and I am currently finalizing my divorce. He was engaged, years ago, so he is trying so hard to get acclimated to having a significant other at this moment in his life. And everytime I have a concern or issue he acknowledges it, admits if he slighted me in anyway, and promises to make adjustments so that he treats me better. He is by no means perfect, but neither am I. The things and characteristics that are important to me, he has and I hope that I have the ones that are important to him. One thing is for sure, he is always afraid that I am going to walk and I have to reassure him that I won’t, as long as he treats me right. I have to be patient while he adjusts ……….and he states that he cherishes my ability to compromise and work things out. Scorpios are very laid back individuals….as long as we are treated right….LOL… All relationships take work, but you have to both be committed to each other and the relationship and really want it or it is not going to work. Because one or both parties will start to feel disrespected, or taken for granted or not appreciated. And that is with any sign, not just the Pisces……just adding my two cents……

  582. OneGemAndAFish

    On January 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm


    @Spanish Pisces…maybe you have a point. I am holding a lot of hurt towards the Pisces man that hurt me, and it isn’t fair for me to take it out on other Pisces men as each person is an individual. I am also intelligent enough to know you can not just judge someone solely on their birth sign. I will try to refrain from doing so in the future.

  583. Spanish Pisces

    On January 16, 2010 at 3:26 pm


    @SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMEN
    Thanks for sharing :3 please, keep us updated.

    @OneGemAndAFish
    That would be lovely, we are here to help each other, not to make war.
    You could share your pain with us here, perhaps it would help me understand you better.

  584. cancer woman

    On January 18, 2010 at 3:34 am


    OBJECTIVE OPINION

    To all of you: dont you ever TRUST a pisces /man or woman/, only when they dont need you anymore /many reasons why/ they throw you just so away without even speaking, so they put this in words: silence is gold /translate: get off /
    If you love the truth stay away from them… and yes they are lovely spirits…

  585. Spanish Pisces

    On January 18, 2010 at 4:56 am


    If that´s an objective opinion Hitler was a pacifist.

    “I been hurted by a pisces guy , hence everyone under this sign sucks , can ´t speak the truth and will abandon you ”

    wow…just wow.

  586. cancer woman

    On January 18, 2010 at 7:08 am


    no, I did apologize for what I have done hoping he tells at least the truth /its awfull when you feel that your friend fools you its awfull to be fooled by a friend/ I hope I ment something for him but no – it seems not. I think even white lies cannot be! Its just a lie! So – then I did my own investigation because I hate lies, do you understand me? I really dont want to lose him because I like the way he is and also I dont! paradox to me…

  587. taurus woman

    On January 21, 2010 at 11:01 am


    Hi there everyone, i found this site and i am so happy that i have. i am a taurus woman who met a pisces man. He was at the time in a long term relationship. Things between them wernt working out and he ended it. At this time i was getting to know him,we ended up spending every weekend or everyother weekend together, he would always call me, text me, he was always very affectionate when we talked, baby this, gorgeous girl that. Over the holidays he came over to visit the family and we had a great time together. Since that moment, i have felt closer to him and feel like we are progressing well. Its now been 3-4 months since we have been seeing eachother.. Over these months at times he would ask if i was happy with the way things are going…. i of course said yes and he agreed and said so were seeing eachother now was not expecting to fall for you this quickly!! untill recently over the course of 2 days- he seems suddenly uninterested, very off and blunt. This has confused me and has left me feeling very insecure. I didnt like this so asked him outright- if there was something wrong, if he was happy and if he was happy with the way things were going and if he saw them going anywhere,,.. or did he think i should just walk away.

    His response was that he wasnt ready for anything like that and that he didnt want to rush. Saying this he enjoys my company thinks im great and wants to conitnue seeing me. This whole thing has stressed me out as i feel like were a couple we act like a couple… yet he has made it so clear he dosent want a relationship now! hes asked me to wait, and if i dont he will understand why because he does not want to stand in my way as he does not know when he will be ready.
    he continue to tell me that he sees something happening in the future between us for sure and wasnts to make sure it will be perfect for when it does happen.
    I feel everything he said is contradictory and i dont want to wait to only find out what i already knew….. thats hes not ready and that only i will be heart brocken!
    do i be patient and loving and hope that he will fall for me in the future and it will be worth the wait or do i quit now?! please help.

  588. immapiscesdude2

    On January 21, 2010 at 2:25 pm


    I look on here and see a lot of women bashing picses men. It confuses me because you are generalizing all men born in a certain date range to a certain behavior. From my personal experience yes I have hurt one woman, I deeply regretted and apologized and I do consider her a friend. However speaking for myself I can’t do the long distance thing with someone who has no plans to meet me at least half way so it was inevitable.
    On the flip side, my heart has been broken as well, that’s life. I’ve gotten over it and not labeled all virgos a bunch of obsessive compulsive bitches, why can’t you?
    I’ve never told a woman I loved her and I didn’t mean it with every part of my soul. I’ve cheated yes, but only once I’m sure that there’s no future with that individual. I do believe there is a spiritual element to loving someone.
    Now if I love you… I will always be happy to touch you, make love to you, kiss you or tell you how much I love you. However if I’m with a women who brushes me of once, I won’t speak on it but I’ll know her feelings aren’t as strong as mine and I’ll slowly begin to withdraw as she continues to brush me off.
    I love to serve my mate but the one thing I think I’ve always looked for in a woman is safety. Not physical or financial safety but a security in knowing the woman I am with has feelings are consistent and true and not subject to change and has interest in me as a genuine human being. Appreciates my talents and encourages my ambitions etc. I don’t put anything before my woman and I expect the same.
    I love to take care of her, I will make sacrifices in comfort and quality of life to ensure her happiness but if I get the idea that wont be reciprocated I will be content to be single. If woman is the type to “never put a man before this or that” shes not my type and I will lose interest rather than dealing with the hurt of being itemized and filed on someones to do list. That’s not love, or at least my kind of love.
    I will bend over backwards over and over to make amends in a relationship just to move onto happier times, however once I get fed up with that I will leave without notice and I don’t believe I owe anybody any explanation unless there are financial obligations involved. We pisces will turn the other cheek but only so many times in a specified period of time and we have genuine love in our hearts. We don’t become bitter so I can love someone just as deeply as I loved you and I can forgive you but I won’t want you back. Only God or their mother will love a woman more than I would but I’m no sucker, if I don’t feel that love coming back its a matter of time before I lose interest. By the way its very obvious to tell how somebody feels its in body language and tonality maybe we’re not psychic but we do see behaviors in people that they don’t see themselves.

  589. Spanish Pisces

    On January 22, 2010 at 3:26 am


    @taurus woman
    If i were you, i would leave her.
    I do not know the reasons he wants to wait for, but the fact is that if he really loves and appreciates you , he should go on with it and do his best, specially when you two went as far as you explain.
    Look , i am sad to have to go against a fellow pisces yet again, but if he can´t make compromises, then you are better off searching for another man.

    @imapiscesdude2
    How do you mean with “I’ve cheated yes, but only once I’m sure that there’s no future with that individual.”
    If there´s no future with someone, be a man and leave her , do not keep her by your side while having fun with other people <.< cheating is horrible no matter in which phase of the relationship you do it at, and you are no better than any other person that cheats on their partner.
    Don´t pat your back believing what you do is somehow less bad than what the other cheaters do.

  590. Spanish Pisces

    On January 22, 2010 at 3:27 am


    Taurus woman, meant him, not her, on the first sentence.

  591. OneGemAndAFish

    On January 26, 2010 at 1:48 pm


    Hey I’m back…let me add some more to the mix…even though i’m kinda fed up of talking about these damn piscean men!.

    I have noticed when you give your heart to them…truly give them your heart…that is when they go cold….i think they enjoy the chase and capturing of ones heart with their suave sophisticated and romantic ways…but once they have you, they get a bit scared and swim off.

    Observe the behavior of fishes…and men born under this sign are very similar. My uncle, he met a lovely woman…she was a virgo…she would do anything and anything for him…she was decent , hard working, loyal..etc… He strung her along for the best part of 20 years..until she met someone who really wanted her and wasn’t afraid to show it. My uncle now ..in his forties…cuts a lonely figure, dating women who flaunt openly with other men…and my heart truly goes out to him.

    My cousin he is a young buck in his early twenties…young and in his prime!…also a Pisces. Three kids later…all different mothers..oldest child probably being 6…he is yet to settle down yet…but given his age, he probably does not see it as a priority.

    I know many other pisces men who are great people, don’t get me wrong, but when it comes to relationships…like a fish…they are very slippery…and like true fish…if they feel anyway afraid/hurt..etc…they will swim away and there is no coaxing them back. Have you ever been fishing? If that fish doesn’t bite good the first time…there isn’t a chance in hell he going to bite a second time! lol

    Anyway..I was talking with my aunt a few days ago about Pisces men, and she said so many things which rang so true for my ex and his traits. She claimed that she could see he still loved me, and i was like..”Hey i dont think so!” She went on to explain that, he probably does not realise it himself, and that Pisces men hide from their feelings or cover it up by being nasty or jovial. They are also natural loners, as much as they may seem chatty and friendly…they spend many episodes in total solitude. I also think it would be fair to say that Pisces men RARELY if EVER open up to anyone about there true feelings when it comes to their heart. If they are hurting, you wont know…they either keep very very busy…or lock themselves away until confidence has been restored and they are ready to face the real world again.

    I know it seems unfair to generalise and put people into categories …especially by star signs. ..but there is truth there. I myself am i Gemini…and would agree with maybe 95% of the characteristics of the sign of the twins…we do have dual nature, get bored easily, like to flirt (even subtlety lol) good conversationalist, we are also highly intelligent, witty and the rest blah blah blah…lol :-)

    Well i think ive said enough…for now :-)
    But some advice to the ladies, trying to hang onto your Piscean Man…if you really believe he is worth it..and you know what you have is unique and special and the spark is still there….give him a bit of time…then go get him…simple as that!!!

    (P.S…choose your words carefully…dont criticize him/call up him up on bad things he has done, he will only flip it around on you!) *they have a way with words*

    Oh yeah and to ALL THE PISCES MEN ON THIS THREAD…my advice would be to FACE YOUR FEARS!!..it really aint all that bad!!!

    lol….c ya…xxx

  592. Spanish Pisces

    On January 27, 2010 at 4:53 am


    @OneGemAndAFish : Thank you for a fair, objective opinion.
    While i do not agree with some of it, i do respect and understand it.

    To be honest, at times i am shocked from the things you gals explain, because i am completely different to those pisces you describe.
    I am a pisces, but i am not afraid of talking about my feelings, and in fact, i tend to do it a lot, because it avoids arguements and missunderstandings with those around me.
    Even tho i am just 24yy old, i only had 4 relationships, and 3 of those 4 lasted for many years each, so i am not the kind to “hunt, release and hunt again” that you gals expose here.
    Sure, i may be insecure about a couple things, but then again who isn´t?
    I lived a horrible childhood due to abusing parents and yet i do not close myself into my own traumas or the shadows of the past.
    And yeah OneGem, there is truth in the star signs, but pisces have two different kinds of individuals, downstrams and upstreams, but people tend to ignore upstreams and put us all in the downstream boat.

  593. cancer woman

    On January 28, 2010 at 4:02 am


    Hi Spanish Pisces,
    24 years old and and a couple of relationships lasted for “many years” wow! it seems to me you are very experienced ….;-)
    greetings

  594. Sharobb

    On January 29, 2010 at 5:01 am


    Wow ! I wish I had known about this site 4 months ago in September when my first (& I hope last) Pisces came crashing into my life! I am a cancer, he is a jerk. After a horrible divorce 6 yrs ago, my 10 yr old son I were just completely taken in immediately. The jerk & were having a LDR, different states…and just like so many of the entries here, in less than a month he was calling my boy his son & wanting to be a family with us etc… About a week ago, after a couple of weeks of not really calling & texting near as much, he has become non-existant. Our last phone conversation he said he at 47 is going thru a midlife crisis and a mind meltdown. Says he is just unsure of everything aournd him & he needs to be alone to work this out. No more texts or calls. I am so angry. My son adored him. And so needed a positive male role model. In 2 wks time he went from “fir the first time in his entire life he knows exactly what he wants” to “for the first time in my entire life I am unsure of everything around me, especially my sanity.” At 1st I thought he was mental, now I know he is just a player. Again, I am so angry. My son has type 1 diabetes & a father that is drug addicted & is in & out of jail frequently. My question is…how can a man that prides himself on his great record as a MP for 6 yrs in the army, so cowardly walk away like this with no word at all to my son? He does not even have the proper nads to break up w/ me!! Says while he is going thru this, he does not really know what he wants so just go if I want to go. And I say ‘NO”. I am not going to make breaking up easy for him by breaking up with myself! Thank goodness for this site because I was searching my mind for what on earth I did to cause this. Now I see…I cared ! Like my Mom always says, ” No good deed goes unpunished.” Funniest part of all is he was on unemployment losing everything. I did all the commuting, added him a line to my phone service, took him heaters & blankets & more. And again, he has not even said goodbye, much less thanks. Instead he seems angry & hostile. Probably the male way of keeping me from trying to contact him & get answers. What a fool I was. My son is crushed. And oh yeah, the last day we were visiting there, Jan 3rd, his chow bit my son in the face & jerk has not once called or texted to see how he is doing? What a loser. And did I mention that we got dumped right after he was hired at a new job & it had been over one year since he had worked? What an idiot I was. Where has RUN gone & where was she when I needed her? Out of all the entries here, hers sums it up best. RRRuuunnnnn. Look out ladies, he is out there. Keeping ladies everywhere on hold while he does his soul searching. I am 48 & educated professional & I bought this crap. After being taken in my marriage by a con artist. This Cancer has got to learn to stop tryng to help those lost souls & “victims”. Please, someone, anyone reply & help me out with this. 4 yrs of not dating & I got taken by a Pisces. He best not be coming back my way, I will catch & not release !! One thing I do know now…I have way more guts & nads that he every thought about having. At least maybe my son can see that we caught & corrected this error quickly. But seriously you southern girls, he is out there !! Look out ! Help me friends please with the best way to end this. Not letting him off the hook so to speak. LOL. I need to turn off the phone & go down one last time & get all my stuff. My son had even loaned him his Playstation & games & movies. It will be worth the drive to see the look on his face when I arrive to get our stuff. He will have to face me then. Fish may be good at swimming away & hiding but crabs are persistant . At my age, a man needs to give a lady a proper break up. Especially after all we did for him. Agreed?

  595. Sharobb

    On January 29, 2010 at 5:03 am


    Wow ! I wish I had known about this site 4 months ago in September when my first (& I hope last) Pisces came crashing into my life! I am a cancer, he is a jerk. After a horrible divorce 6 yrs ago, my 10 yr old son I were just completely taken in immediately. The jerk & were having a LDR, different states…and just like so many of the entries here, in less than a month he was calling my boy his son & wanting to be a family with us etc… About a week ago, after a couple of weeks of not really calling & texting near as much, he has become non-existant. Our last phone conversation he said he at 47 is going thru a midlife crisis and a mind meltdown. Says he is just unsure of everything aournd him & he needs to be alone to work this out. No more texts or calls. I am so angry. My son adored him. And so needed a positive male role model. In 2 wks time he went from \”fir the first time in his entire life he knows exactly what he wants\” to \”for the first time in my entire life I am unsure of everything around me, especially my sanity.\” At 1st I thought he was mental, now I know he is just a player. Again, I am so angry. My son has type 1 diabetes & a father that is drug addicted & is in & out of jail frequently. My question is…how can a man that prides himself on his great record as a MP for 6 yrs in the army, so cowardly walk away like this with no word at all to my son? He does not even have the proper nads to break up w/ me!! Says while he is going thru this, he does not really know what he wants so just go if I want to go. And I say \’NO\”. I am not going to make breaking up easy for him by breaking up with myself! Thank goodness for this site because I was searching my mind for what on earth I did to cause this. Now I see…I cared ! Like my Mom always says, \” No good deed goes unpunished.\” Funniest part of all is he was on unemployment losing everything. I did all the commuting, added him a line to my phone service, took him heaters & blankets & more. And again, he has not even said goodbye, much less thanks. Instead he seems angry & hostile. Probably the male way of keeping me from trying to contact him & get answers. What a fool I was. My son is crushed. And oh yeah, the last day we were visiting there, Jan 3rd, his chow bit my son in the face & jerk has not once called or texted to see how he is doing? What a loser. And did I mention that we got dumped right after he was hired at a new job & it had been over one year since he had worked? What an idiot I was. Where has RUN gone & where was she when I needed her? Out of all the entries here, hers sums it up best. RRRuuunnnnn. Look out ladies, he is out there. Keeping ladies everywhere on hold while he does his soul searching. I am 48 & educated professional & I bought this crap. After being taken in my marriage by a con artist. This Cancer has got to learn to stop tryng to help those lost souls & \”victims\”. Please, someone, anyone reply & help me out with this. 4 yrs of not dating & I got taken by a Pisces. He best not be coming back my way, I will catch & not release !! One thing I do know now…I have way more guts & nads that he every thought about having. At least maybe my son can see that we caught & corrected this error quickly. But seriously you southern girls, he is out there !! Look out ! Help me friends please with the best way to end this. Not letting him off the hook so to speak. LOL. I need to turn off the phone & go down one last time & get all my stuff. My son had even loaned him his Playstation & games & movies. It will be worth the drive to see the look on his face when I arrive to get our stuff. He will have to face me then. Fish may be good at swimming away & hiding but crabs are persistant . At my age, a man needs to give a lady a proper break up. Especially after all we did for him. Agreed?

  596. Flash

    On January 29, 2010 at 5:12 am


    Wow ! I wish I had known about this site 4 months ago in September when my first (& I hope last) Pisces came crashing into my life! I am a cancer, he is a jerk. After a horrible divorce 6 yrs ago, my 10 yr old son I were just completely taken in immediately. The jerk & were having a LDR, different states…and just like so many of the entries here, in less than a month he was calling my boy his son & wanting to be a family with us etc… About a week ago, after a couple of weeks of not really calling & texting near as much, he has become non-existant. Our last phone conversation he said he at 47 is going thru a midlife crisis and a mind meltdown. Says he is just unsure of everything aournd him & he needs to be alone to work this out. No more texts or calls. I am so angry. My son adored him. And so needed a positive male role model. In 2 wks time he went from \\\”fir the first time in his entire life he knows exactly what he wants\\\” to \\\”for the first time in my entire life I am unsure of everything around me, especially my sanity.\\\” At 1st I thought he was mental, now I know he is just a player. Again, I am so angry. My son has type 1 diabetes & a father that is drug addicted & is in & out of jail frequently. My question is…how can a man that prides himself on his great record as a MP for 6 yrs in the army, so cowardly walk away like this with no word at all to my son? He does not even have the proper nads to break up w/ me!! Says while he is going thru this, he does not really know what he wants so just go if I want to go. And I say \\\’NO\\\”. I am not going to make breaking up easy for him by breaking up with myself! Thank goodness for this site because I was searching my mind for what on earth I did to cause this. Now I see…I cared ! Like my Mom always says, \\\” No good deed goes unpunished.\\\” Funniest part of all is he was on unemployment losing everything. I did all the commuting, added him a line to my phone service, took him heaters & blankets & more. And again, he has not even said goodbye, much less thanks. Instead he seems angry & hostile. Probably the male way of keeping me from trying to contact him & get answers. What a fool I was. My son is crushed. And oh yeah, the last day we were visiting there, Jan 3rd, his chow bit my son in the face & jerk has not once called or texted to see how he is doing? What a loser. And did I mention that we got dumped right after he was hired at a new job & it had been over one year since he had worked? What an idiot I was. Where has RUN gone & where was she when I needed her? Out of all the entries here, hers sums it up best. RRRuuunnnnn. Look out ladies, he is out there. Keeping ladies everywhere on hold while he does his soul searching. I am 48 & educated professional & I bought this crap. After being taken in my marriage by a con artist. This Cancer has got to learn to stop tryng to help those lost souls & \\\”victims\\\”. Please, someone, anyone reply & help me out with this. 4 yrs of not dating & I got taken by a Pisces. He best not be coming back my way, I will catch & not release !! One thing I do know now…I have way more guts & nads that he every thought about having. At least maybe my son can see that we caught & corrected this error quickly. But seriously you southern girls, he is out there !! Look out ! Help me friends please with the best way to end this. Not letting him off the hook so to speak. LOL. I need to turn off the phone & go down one last time & get all my stuff. My son had even loaned him his Playstation & games & movies. It will be worth the drive to see the look on his face when I arrive to get our stuff. He will have to face me then. Fish may be good at swimming away & hiding but crabs are persistant . At my age, a man needs to give a lady a proper break up. Especially after all we did for him. Agreed?

  597. Flash

    On January 29, 2010 at 5:23 am


    Sorry for the multiple postings. Computer was saying had server problem to correct & resubmit. I apologize for this.

  598. Spanish Pisces

    On January 29, 2010 at 7:48 am


    @cancer woman
    I can´t help but feel some sarcasm in your posting.
    I could now enter into an arguement about how someone as young as me has healther relationships than you do, and knows better than to blame the stars for his own failures, but hey!
    Not worth it ;)

    @Flash/Sharobb
    You know, your story touches me in a very special way because it´s basically what i have lived with my mother, my father, and the guy she got into a relationship with after a few years from the divorce. ( the only diff is , he was leo instead of pisces ).
    Not too long ago i was in your son´s position so i know this story better than i would like to which makes it very hard for me to answer objectively, since i have a lot of tied feelings with this situation.

    One advice: Do not make the whole breaking up and recovering your stuff longer than it needs to.
    He´s not worth your or your son´s time and the longer you drag it the more you two will suffer.

    Hope you do not mind if i take a bit of time to properly answer to you, i want to give it a deep thought and offer you and your son the best of what i can offer, rather than quickly answer and let my own emotions ( since i shared it ) affect it.

    I will get back to you soon.

  599. cancer woman

    On January 29, 2010 at 9:51 am


    Hi Spanish Pisces,
    do YOU argue with me? ;-) I know you are very proud but I dont like fights… and yes I am ironic sometimes but thats the way i am and I am not afraid of putting my thoughts on the internet forum just like that. I just dont like any “protectors” or “I know better” persons, you know… and I feel you are a little bit that person. Sorry for saying this! After all I admire Pisces men because they are weird and non conventional and thats the thing I love ! But living with one its an another case and I really feel the pain and frustrations from the lady above. Only what I can say is: have strength and confidence in yourself and take distance from all of it… and above of all: do not believe everything that is said and written on the internet sites althought its good sometimes to share your problems with another /invisible/ people …. but we just dont have an answer, only you do…and its fine to know you are not alone!
    greetings to all /inc. Spanish Pisces/ ;-)

  600. Flash

    On January 29, 2010 at 11:00 am


    Thank you Spanish Pisces. Thank you so much. Your input is most welcome. I have no idea how my son is feeling. He is holding up well with a stiff upper lip. His health condition really is my first concern. Emotional issues can really affect diabetes. After 6 years since the divorce, to finally step out there & try to date someone & this happens… I really am glad it did end quickly & now I know. And thanks for the advice on making the end quick & painless. That is what I plan on doing. My son & I will drive down & get our stuff & make a nice little trip out of it. Maybe stop & sightsee along the way. This is my first experience with a Pisces. Maybe with other signs the same thing would have happened but the difference here is the accelerated emotional intensity and declarations of love, the falling in love so quickly and drawing us in, thats what seems to be the Pisces trait. But to use a kid to manipulate? How dare he. He used to say “kid tested, mother approved.” How can he walk away from a kid after working so hard to draw him in? Thanks again, Flash

  601. Spanish Pisces

    On January 29, 2010 at 5:26 pm


    @cancer woman If you do not like fights,next time do not flamebait someone you consider “Prideful and know it better” into one ;)
    There is a big difference between voicing your opinion
    (i. e : your second post) and flamebaiting (i.e : Your first one).

    @Flash He used your son exactly because he is your weakest spot and the best to use to manipulate you.
    It´s obvious you would give your life and more away if it meant your son´s happiness and safety, and hence by making you think that your son would get the best, you would agree with anything and give yourself to him.
    And how dare he? How can he do such a horrible thing?
    Because many man and woman today can´t see further than their own noses, they don´t really know or care how much pain they cause on people, and the very few cases in which they do realize, they just convince themselves that the pain they inflict is “minor” because they suffer oh, so much more than you do.
    ( Even if that´s a lie, they are convinced about it )
    Additionally, many of them are unconciously jealous of your strenght and success, since their lives suck, and hence bring you down at their level, as a “Punishement”. ( they never consider anything its their fault ).

    In short, because they are a bunch of losers and know nothing better than to use people and live as crappily as they can, awaiting for the next victim , ready to suck whatever they can from them, before leaving them behind.

  602. SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMNE

    On February 1, 2010 at 3:35 pm


    @ Flash/Sharobb

    I have to say that I don’t think it is fair to just blame it on a Pisces. Yes they draw you in with their whimsical and dreamy thoughts And Yes you can fall in love with them easily, overnight, as a matter of fact if they are truly expressing and being dreamy outloud. You can fall into all of that and look up and be swept off your feet in in Love. 100%. But it is up to you as to how fast you will let the relationship progress. You started dating your Pisces after I started dating mine and I have yet to introduce him to my children. I just think some of the judgement calls you made in your relationship were a little too much a little too soon. How did you two meet. If it was a LDR why did you feel so comfortable to drive to his area, take him lots of gifts and introduce him to your son, all within 4 months. Maybe I am just old fashioned or way to cautious, but I believe any man would have taken you through the ringer because he was able to get everything out of you too quicky before you both totally knew each other. This is just my opinion. I do understand where you are coming from because I too am in my 40’s and recently divorced but seperated for 2 years. So when we meet someone, if it seems good we want to dive head first. But we have to pace ourselves, especially if we have children. I truly believe that children should not be brought into the mix unless the couple knows that they are going to be together forever as in marriage or at least engaged. Otherwise you will find yourself introducing your children to more than one man and I don’t think that is a good idea. Just my opinion.
    My Pisces and I had a discussion about the proper time to introduce our children into a relationship and we both agree that it should be later into the relationship when both parties know we will be together forever. Although we are in a committed relationship, and yes, he asked for exclusitivity, it was the cutest thing…….:)…………anyways, even though we are in a committed relationship, we are still not that far in that I would introduce my children to him. Even though our kids know each other because we both have a ton of mutual friends,they don’t know we are dating. I believe that I will know when the time is right to tell them if it comes to that. And he talks about our future all the time, how we will live and combining our families and I JUST LISTEN. I don’t get caught up into that, because that is the dreamy side of my Pisces coming out. I need to make sure all the i’s are dotted and the t’s are crossed before I will entertain those thoughts. That’s the
    Scorpio in me…….it’s all Black and White……..LOL…….. We have a wonderful relationship so far. I am very happy and he has told me that he loves me. We are progressing nicely, but slowly. I think we are both just very nervous about how well everything has gone.
    Pisces love to fall in love. They love the chase and they love the warm fuzzies that love gives them. However, they also like to know that their woman is ONLY THEIRS. Meaning, if you get into an intimate relationship with them to easily or fall in with them to easily, they can tend to get over you very quickly. I think the reason for this is because in the back of their mind they are thinking (If she can get into me this quickly, then she has probably done this over and over again with several men) and for some reason, I believe that Pisces men want to believe that they are not one of a long list of men but they are special and that they have gotten to where many men have not been able to get. They have a very high regard and respect for their women and they don’t want to think that she has been touched many times. Remember the act of intimacy is very personal and romantic for the Pisces man. He loves to “Make Love” not have sex. And he can only “Make Love” with his LADY. So there is a certain amount of regard and respect that comes with that. I am not saying that you have to be a virgin, but in their dreamy world, if you can come close to it in their mind then you are good. And if you make it that much harder for them to get to you then that is a good thing as well. Pisces want to believe that they have the prize, and Ladies, “You Are The Prize” We must remember that. And act accordingly.

  603. April

    On February 2, 2010 at 6:49 pm


    I just have a question, I emailed my pisces telling him about the things that I am not so happy about in the relation & then I stayed for about 6 weeks not talking to him, then I contacted him but he is very cold in respond…Is he over me already ? Thanks for the thoughts !

  604. Flash

    On February 3, 2010 at 12:06 am


    To SpanishPisces. Thanks for your input as the child in the mix. That is pretty factual. I hold myself responsible for being taken in so quickly. Quite honestly, with the benefit of hindsight, I ignored what I see now as large Red Flags. And yes, mosy of the red flags could be assigned to man or woman or any sign. It is the manipulation that is now becoming apparant. I was not that much for astrological signs making or breaking a relationship. There are many attractions & all reltionships take hard work & compromise. @ScorpionlovesPiscesmne, Here is the really weird part. I did hold back. He was wanting me to move to be with him after one month. He scoped out places I could work, etc… I told him IF we did ever get that far…I would move down & rent my own place. One of the things that he would text me was whn I was going to let the sex freak out. He did not make love..he purely had sex. And I found that too hard to open up to. I have actually known this man for almost 3 yrs as a client where I worked. I have been divorced and not dated for several years. I felt comfortable with him due to the fact that we had a professional relationship and I knew alot about him on paper so to speak. Credit, back ground checks etc. Now as far as taking him gifts etc, once he hit the hard times, we loaned him staples, some for entertainment and some for work. Loaned. I am not a counselor now due to job burnout but I have spent years as a counselor helping others. It is just my basic personality. I have 3 space heaters in the basement not being used and I know someone needing one, I do not mind at all sharing. I try to treat others as I would like to be treated. I sure will not argue w/ you that this was allowed to accelerate quickly and he said all the right things but again, this was manipulation. No one could have fallen in love that quickly and out that quickly and leave without a word and there not be some basic personality problems. He has done me a favor by exiting but my concern again is for my son. Yes, with the benefit of hindsight I never should have believed a word he said or loaned him anything or helped him in any way. But then I would not be me. My son has a big heart and a sharing spirit as well. Which is why his playstation and games are there. As I said earlier, his dog even bit my child in the face and he has not once called or texted to see about him. And I do not expect him too. Because he is not a nice person and I was completely fooled. But things were coming to light. Like he had a 6 yr relatonship that just ended in June (danger) etc. I went there so I could have more control of the situation and leave when I needed. My son is everything to me and I will do anything to protect him. But, we do live in this world and my son learns lessons along with me. He is not necessarily exposed to too much carnal knowledge but remember too, my divorce came about due to the fact thay his dad became addicted to pain pills and for the past several years has racked up many jail terms over drug charges, assault, etc..But back to there theme and the main point here, it was the Pisces man that directed me to look into the traits of Pisces and directed me to many sites. And after reading all the entrys on this one, there does seem to be a common theme. They tend to fall quickly and passionately and are gone before you even know they are thinking about leaving. Thanks or the advice and I will guard my heart and my sons heart better next time.

  605. Flash

    On February 3, 2010 at 12:28 am


    @April, how long were you together? And if I am reading your post correctly and you sent him an e mail and have waited six weeks and he still has not replied, I believe he may not intend to. You may have been replaced and he will come back around when he gets bored with others. E mailing that you want to talk about problems is not some reason for someone to take off…unless they do not care to keep the relationship important and do not want to talk about it or work on it. That is what I am seeing from many on this site, the male Pisces exit strategy is Gone in 60 Seconds. Key word Gone. Once the take flight, if they do come back, they exit again quicker and longer. The Pisces I was talking to for about four months said he was with the girlfriend he was with for six years and they had just split in June. But then I found out that during that six years, they were contstantly on and off. I told him I would not do that. I cannot. Plus, how was I to know that the off this time was really off? He swore it was….but at Christmas and New Years, he was very disappointed the ex did not text him. He said, she did at Thanksgiving and she will text again, she always had. He was just waiting for her to want him back. Probably with her now…again. We just cannot make people love us or like us or treat us good. We just have to draw the line at what we will work with and what the dealbreakers are. I have had mine. I hope you have had yours too.

  606. Spanish Pisces

    On February 3, 2010 at 2:25 am


    @Flash
    I would just like to point out that, just because you found a few recurring patterns on this website , it does not mean it´s actually part of the piscean mindset.
    It´s obvious an article like this is gonna be visited 99% by broken woman who have been hurted by a pisces man, hence its obvious you are gonna find similar stories, just as it would happen on any other article about another sign, where people came to get advice.
    However, remember that even if we were to count all the posts here, and multiply them x100, it would still not represent even a 0.001% of the piscean male “community” and hence what you read here can not be used to generalize or classify us.

  607. Spanish Pisces

    On February 3, 2010 at 2:47 am


    @Flash 2.0
    I wanted you to know, that you should not be hard on yourself.
    You realized that there were some red flags that you did not see back then, and it obviously perjudicated both you and your son, with things that, if you had been a bit stronger, they would´ve never happened.
    However, i want you to know that it´s not your fault at all.
    For what i can tell, you are a wonderful mother that would give her whole life away to enlarge her son´s by 1 minute, and by how you explain that your son reacts to life and grows, you are doing a wonderful job at raising him.
    Yes, you probably did wrong decisions and mistakes during your life, ( as we all do ) and they may have hurted him , but know that the only reason you did those mistakes is out out love and trust, which are vital for a relationship, and because it´s obvious that you are a sweet, loving, sensitive woman that just wants someone by your side that will go hand by hand with you and your son.
    I dont want you to blame yourself, and i am honestly worried that you will eventually put the weight of what happened on your shoulders, and i would like for you not to do that.
    You did nothing wrong, nothing at all, you just met with the wrong kind of man, who trampled on your trust and abused your love and generosity.
    Keep living and keep loving, and you eventually meet him, the right one, because he´s out there, even if at times he´s hard to spot hehe.

  608. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On February 3, 2010 at 7:15 pm


    @Flash

    I do understand. And sometimes we fall regardless of seeing the red flags, I was not trying to come off as harsh. I am glad you got out when you did. He seemed to be rushing you in the beginning. He saved you from some serious heartache, and like Spanish Pisces said you just ran into a loser. Don’t be too harsh on yourself.

  609. flash

    On February 4, 2010 at 12:10 am


    well, Hello friends. I entered a reply and now I see that none of it got entered. Anyway….more later. Thanks to all. Back to Aprils post, try to stay strong. Does anyone else have ideas on the “no reply” behavior. At 48, that is a 1st for me too. To just disappear and not answer a text even. I hate to just show up but I need to get my belongings back. @April, this is what has made me decide “no way!”. I see all these other postings that say what can I do to make him call me & ” I want him back”… but me… honestly, this has made me madder than any treatment could have. To just totally disregard us after saying we meant so much. Take advice from others above and let’s find us a man that will treat us decent.

  610. ScorpionLovesPiscesMen

    On February 4, 2010 at 10:32 am


    From my experience with the Pisces Men, they are there one day and then totally gone the next. They have the ability to fall off the face of the Earth. And it hurts like Hell. I have talked to a Pisces Man about this and he told me that a Pisces will cut off their nose to spite their face. In other words they will submerge themselves into a pool of hurt and stay there until they are over the person because they know that they have to go through this to get over the person. If they are into the person or the person has let them down in some way, they keep rehashing or reliving the words or episode that happened and they feel it is better to just get over and away from that person than to continue to be with them. The only time they come back around is once they have totally gotten over you. They may try to sample the waters again, but it won’t be anything permanent. If your pisces has disappeared then it is best to move on. Especially after 6 weeks.Just my opinion.

  611. April

    On February 4, 2010 at 10:56 pm


    To Flash & ScorpioLovesPiscesMen: Thanks much for your respond ! He is a weird person anyways, we have been together for about a year, The other day I was sick, so I text him to tell him that …he did not respond, a few days later I asked why he did not ask about me he said he was out of town & busy. A week later I asked about him he said he was good & thanks for asking. Not sure if he wants me to be the one to break up or what ? or maybe he is just waiting for me to keep begging for what is going on ! I have no idea what is really going on ? I am not going to ask or even call…I am kind of sensitive.I don’t think he wants me anymore in his life or the other thought he might be hurting from something but he is playing the tough guy !

  612. Flash

    On February 5, 2010 at 3:57 am


    Hello. Thanks ScorpioLovesPisces for the bit of info there from the Pisces man. I kinda fiqured that like most people, “he”, the disappearing boyfriend may have found a new girl but does not want to close off options. I remember Jerk telling me about his 6 yr off & on affair and he described it as the ex girl always paused it, took time off to run around, and then came begging back to him. He said he went back because he just had to make sure. Make sure of what?? Anyway, one of the times he said he had started dating a new girl & ex girl found out & came flying back. Now I look back & think I was new girl to get ex girl jealous. He told me when she texted him at Thanksgiving, he had told her that he met someone that did stuff for him, not too him. And I remember how disappointed he was at Halloween she did not come around and again at Christmas and New Years. I asked him had she contacted him since Thanksgiving and he said “not yet, she will”. Like he was just waiting and finally one day she would text him after he had made her wait long enough and just resume where that left off. It was strange though, the patience he had towards the wait for her to eventually text him. Like she knew he never would and for her to just keep trying periodically and when he got ready, off they go again …together. That is a weird game to play that I have no time for. @April, if you get the feeling he does not want you in his life, you are probably right. Especially since he does not initiate any contact with you. Thats what this guy is doing. I did leave him a scorching msg on his cell Saturday telling what I thought of his cowardly behavior and the pain it was causing my son. Nothing. And I tld him about my car wreck and totaling my car out Fri night on way home from work 1-29-10 in a snowstorm. Nothing. Actions do speak louder than words. If he had totaled his car and snt a msg to me, I would have asked was he okay. Just like April being sick and …Nothing. Weird.

  613. Babydoll

    On February 5, 2010 at 8:51 am


    First I am a Scorpio woman and they say we are compayible with Pices what a crock of BS I talk to one for two weeks and everything out his mouth was a lie see scorpio remebers everything you tell them so we can ? you later it was lie on top of lie. He was to sensitive for me now Im sensitive but come on boo its not that serious dont want them or need them.

  614. April

    On February 5, 2010 at 7:35 pm


    To Flash: The Pisces man is a sucker for attention (when you mentioned his ex & how he used to interact).I think the best way in your situation is to ignore him & stop doing any contact…no calls, no texts, nothing…remember how he used to wait to hear from his ex ? Not that he is still in love but just because he likes women to get crazy & keep on chasing. I am very confused and I can’t deal with my guy but I guess I might be able to help others since I am really in their shoes & they could help me since they are not in my shoes. I would recommend you also to play the cool gal i.e you might want to text him & apologize for being very tensed & that you are still not ready for a serious relation but you appreciate his frienship then disapear for a month or two. I know it is very hard but the thing is the more you try to contact him, the more he will swim away because there is no more excitment going on ! No wonder most of then do not get married !!!

  615. Spanish Pisces

    On February 6, 2010 at 7:22 am


    I just wanted to say that i have decided to leave this discussion, not that i expect any of the current “community” to care, but i decided to leave this post here in case one of the older posters comes by again at some point.
    God and the whole community knows i have done my best for any person who sincerely asked for help, advice or simply an ear to listen to their problems , and that while naive, a bit unexperienced and why not, prideful as i am , i have done as much as i could for the those who were in need.
    But let´s face it, the time where this article was “popular” and people really came here to chat, discuss about pisces men and have a good time has long passed.
    Posters like Queen, Taurus, and many other that were here the first few months are long gone, and all what is left nowadays is a few flamers and the random, bitter female who, betrayed by a pisces man, goes to the net, finds this article, and decides to rant and bash on us as a stress relief, some more rudely , some “politely”.
    So there, i leave the article to you.
    Keep generalizing as much as you want, keep patting each other´s back in the blind belief every single problem you ever had in your love life is the other side´s fault.
    It came to a moment in which i got a far better things to do in my life than to stay here to absorb all the insults, whines and rants you gals spit, for every one honest question that is made here.
    The article is pretty much dead and it´s time i “die” with it.

    To everyone i had the pleasure ( and not ) to talk to, take care, i hope your lifes go for the better ( and that also goes for all the butthurt flamers here , you know who you are ) and have a great 2010.

    Good bye.

  616. Flash

    On February 8, 2010 at 11:46 pm


    @SpanishPisces. Hate to see you go. Thanks so much the helpful input on my son & how he may be feeling. And for the very kind words. Wish that I had not jumped on here in a blaze of confusion & could have been a bit of help or company to you. Goodness knows you helped me. Enjoy wherever you may be going & again, thanks so much for the help and perspective you have given me for my son. We are doing great & are onto our next adventure.

  617. just in case ...

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:37 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (”Creep” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It’s the “emotional manipulator” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines “if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you’d….” to the guy who insists he couldn’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the “co-dependent emotional blackmailer” and the “patronizing mind-fucker”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It’s just that the first kind does it by playing the “sad puppy” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    “How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, ’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended “personal development” and “motivational” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is “arrogant”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His “friends” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just “self-confident”. The manipulator will insist that “insecure” people perceive someone who is “self confident” as being “arrogant”.

    3.) He says he “Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. “I couldn’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are “caring” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is “patronizing”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he’s “Not like all the other guys….”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says “I’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…” They’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, “Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.”
    You say, “Hmmmm… I’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.”
    The manipulator replies, “I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.”
    It’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as “highly intelligent” nor “as good a driver” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as “altruistic”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys “help” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to “help” other people, even if those people don’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was “just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.”

    To which I say: “What the hell gives YOU the right?!”

    7.) He can’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of “trying to change him”, or pressure him to “stop being himself”. (My response to that is: “I wouldn’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it’s FAR away from me!”)

    If he’s on a roll, he’ll accuse you of “personally attacking” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, “because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you “agree to disagree”. If he DOES apologize, it’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a “but” in it:

    “I’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    “Damn. I screwed up. I’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn’t match his words. In a “relationship” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don’t, the next thing you know, he’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, “not responding” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  618. just in case ...

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (\”Creep\” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can\’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It\’s the \”emotional manipulator\” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines \”if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you\’d….\” to the guy who insists he couldn\’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it\’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the \”co-dependent emotional blackmailer\” and the \”patronizing mind-fucker\”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It\’s just that the first kind does it by playing the \”sad puppy\” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    \”How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker\”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, \’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they\’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended \”personal development\” and \”motivational\” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is \”arrogant\”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His \”friends\” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn\’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just \”self-confident\”. The manipulator will insist that \”insecure\” people perceive someone who is \”self confident\” as being \”arrogant\”.

    3.) He says he \”Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women\” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn\’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It\’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy\’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. \”I couldn\’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…\”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are \”caring\” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is \”patronizing\”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he\’s \”Not like all the other guys….\”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn\’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn\’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn\’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don\’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says \”I\’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…\” They\’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he\’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it\’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, \”Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.\”
    You say, \”Hmmmm… I\’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.\”
    The manipulator replies, \”I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.\”
    It\’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn\’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn\’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as \”highly intelligent\” nor \”as good a driver\” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he\’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as \”altruistic\”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys \”help\” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to \”help\” other people, even if those people don\’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone\’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was \”just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.\”

    To which I say: \”What the hell gives YOU the right?!\”

    7.) He can\’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he\’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn\’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He\’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn\’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it\’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you\’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of \”trying to change him\”, or pressure him to \”stop being himself\”. (My response to that is: \”I wouldn\’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it\’s FAR away from me!\”)

    If he\’s on a roll, he\’ll accuse you of \”personally attacking\” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, \”because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn\’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.\”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don\’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you \”agree to disagree\”. If he DOES apologize, it\’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a \”but\” in it:

    \”I\’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.\”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    \”Damn. I screwed up. I\’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I\’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…\”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He\’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he\’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn\’t match his words. In a \”relationship\” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner\’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman\’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don\’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don\’t, the next thing you know, he\’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, \”not responding\” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  619. just in case ...

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (\\\”Creep\\\” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can\\\’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It\\\’s the \\\”emotional manipulator\\\” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines \\\”if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you\\\’d….\\\” to the guy who insists he couldn\\\’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it\\\’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the \\\”co-dependent emotional blackmailer\\\” and the \\\”patronizing mind-fucker\\\”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It\\\’s just that the first kind does it by playing the \\\”sad puppy\\\” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    \\\”How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker\\\”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, \\\’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they\\\’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended \\\”personal development\\\” and \\\”motivational\\\” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is \\\”arrogant\\\”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His \\\”friends\\\” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn\\\’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just \\\”self-confident\\\”. The manipulator will insist that \\\”insecure\\\” people perceive someone who is \\\”self confident\\\” as being \\\”arrogant\\\”.

    3.) He says he \\\”Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women\\\” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn\\\’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It\\\’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy\\\’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. \\\”I couldn\\\’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…\\\”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are \\\”caring\\\” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is \\\”patronizing\\\”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he\\\’s \\\”Not like all the other guys….\\\”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn\\\’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn\\\’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn\\\’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don\\\’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says \\\”I\\\’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…\\\” They\\\’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he\\\’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it\\\’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, \\\”Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.\\\”
    You say, \\\”Hmmmm… I\\\’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.\\\”
    The manipulator replies, \\\”I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.\\\”
    It\\\’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn\\\’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn\\\’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as \\\”highly intelligent\\\” nor \\\”as good a driver\\\” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he\\\’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as \\\”altruistic\\\”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys \\\”help\\\” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to \\\”help\\\” other people, even if those people don\\\’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone\\\’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was \\\”just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.\\\”

    To which I say: \\\”What the hell gives YOU the right?!\\\”

    7.) He can\\\’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he\\\’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn\\\’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He\\\’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn\\\’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it\\\’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you\\\’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of \\\”trying to change him\\\”, or pressure him to \\\”stop being himself\\\”. (My response to that is: \\\”I wouldn\\\’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it\\\’s FAR away from me!\\\”)

    If he\\\’s on a roll, he\\\’ll accuse you of \\\”personally attacking\\\” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, \\\”because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn\\\’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.\\\”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don\\\’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you \\\”agree to disagree\\\”. If he DOES apologize, it\\\’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a \\\”but\\\” in it:

    \\\”I\\\’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.\\\”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    \\\”Damn. I screwed up. I\\\’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I\\\’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…\\\”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He\\\’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he\\\’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn\\\’t match his words. In a \\\”relationship\\\” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner\\\’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman\\\’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don\\\’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don\\\’t, the next thing you know, he\\\’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, \\\”not responding\\\” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  620. just in case ...

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:40 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (\\\\\\\”Creep\\\\\\\” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can\\\\\\\’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It\\\\\\\’s the \\\\\\\”emotional manipulator\\\\\\\” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines \\\\\\\”if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you\\\\\\\’d….\\\\\\\” to the guy who insists he couldn\\\\\\\’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it\\\\\\\’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the \\\\\\\”co-dependent emotional blackmailer\\\\\\\” and the \\\\\\\”patronizing mind-fucker\\\\\\\”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It\\\\\\\’s just that the first kind does it by playing the \\\\\\\”sad puppy\\\\\\\” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    \\\\\\\”How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker\\\\\\\”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, \\\\\\\’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they\\\\\\\’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended \\\\\\\”personal development\\\\\\\” and \\\\\\\”motivational\\\\\\\” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is \\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His \\\\\\\”friends\\\\\\\” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn\\\\\\\’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just \\\\\\\”self-confident\\\\\\\”. The manipulator will insist that \\\\\\\”insecure\\\\\\\” people perceive someone who is \\\\\\\”self confident\\\\\\\” as being \\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\”.

    3.) He says he \\\\\\\”Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women\\\\\\\” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn\\\\\\\’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It\\\\\\\’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy\\\\\\\’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. \\\\\\\”I couldn\\\\\\\’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are \\\\\\\”caring\\\\\\\” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is \\\\\\\”patronizing\\\\\\\”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he\\\\\\\’s \\\\\\\”Not like all the other guys….\\\\\\\”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn\\\\\\\’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn\\\\\\\’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn\\\\\\\’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don\\\\\\\’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says \\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…\\\\\\\” They\\\\\\\’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he\\\\\\\’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it\\\\\\\’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, \\\\\\\”Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.\\\\\\\”
    You say, \\\\\\\”Hmmmm… I\\\\\\\’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.\\\\\\\”
    The manipulator replies, \\\\\\\”I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.\\\\\\\”
    It\\\\\\\’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn\\\\\\\’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn\\\\\\\’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as \\\\\\\”highly intelligent\\\\\\\” nor \\\\\\\”as good a driver\\\\\\\” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he\\\\\\\’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as \\\\\\\”altruistic\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys \\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to \\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\” other people, even if those people don\\\\\\\’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone\\\\\\\’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was \\\\\\\”just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.\\\\\\\”

    To which I say: \\\\\\\”What the hell gives YOU the right?!\\\\\\\”

    7.) He can\\\\\\\’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he\\\\\\\’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn\\\\\\\’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He\\\\\\\’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn\\\\\\\’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it\\\\\\\’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you\\\\\\\’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of \\\\\\\”trying to change him\\\\\\\”, or pressure him to \\\\\\\”stop being himself\\\\\\\”. (My response to that is: \\\\\\\”I wouldn\\\\\\\’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it\\\\\\\’s FAR away from me!\\\\\\\”)

    If he\\\\\\\’s on a roll, he\\\\\\\’ll accuse you of \\\\\\\”personally attacking\\\\\\\” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, \\\\\\\”because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn\\\\\\\’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.\\\\\\\”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don\\\\\\\’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you \\\\\\\”agree to disagree\\\\\\\”. If he DOES apologize, it\\\\\\\’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a \\\\\\\”but\\\\\\\” in it:

    \\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.\\\\\\\”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    \\\\\\\”Damn. I screwed up. I\\\\\\\’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I\\\\\\\’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…\\\\\\\”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He\\\\\\\’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he\\\\\\\’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn\\\\\\\’t match his words. In a \\\\\\\”relationship\\\\\\\” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner\\\\\\\’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman\\\\\\\’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don\\\\\\\’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don\\\\\\\’t, the next thing you know, he\\\\\\\’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, \\\\\\\”not responding\\\\\\\” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  621. cancer woman

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:42 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Creep\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”emotional manipulator\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’d….\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” to the guy who insists he couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”co-dependent emotional blackmailer\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”patronizing mind-fucker\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s just that the first kind does it by playing the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”sad puppy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”personal development\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”motivational\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”friends\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”self-confident\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. The manipulator will insist that \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”insecure\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” people perceive someone who is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”self confident\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” as being \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”.

    3.) He says he \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”caring\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”patronizing\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Not like all the other guys….\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” They\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    You say, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Hmmmm… I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    The manipulator replies, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”highly intelligent\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” nor \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”as good a driver\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”altruistic\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” other people, even if those people don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    To which I say: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”What the hell gives YOU the right?!\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    7.) He can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”trying to change him\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”, or pressure him to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”stop being himself\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. (My response to that is: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s FAR away from me!\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”)

    If he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s on a roll, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll accuse you of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”personally attacking\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”agree to disagree\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. If he DOES apologize, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”but\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” in it:

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Damn. I screwed up. I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t match his words. In a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”relationship\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, the next thing you know, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”not responding\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  622. cancer woman

    On February 13, 2010 at 5:55 pm


    Jerks who Fuck with Your Mind
    Did you ever meet someone, start getting to know them, and have this nagging doubt creep into your mind about them…? (\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Creep\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” being the operative word here…) Something in the way they say things, the body language… something you can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t quite put your finger on? Well skip putting your finger on it, and get your whole hand out there so you can SMACK it down and walk away.

    What am I talking about? It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”emotional manipulator\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” shit that some people try to pull on you.

    From the woman who whines \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”if you really cared about me… if you were REALLY my friend, you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’d….\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” to the guy who insists he couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t possibly be an asshole because he worships women, manipulators are not worth wasting your time and energy on. The damned thing is that manipulators are usually so subtle and insidious, we often spend far too much time and incur too much heartache before we wake up to the kind of shit they are pulling.

    Many people use emotionally manipulative techniques because it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s what they learned while growing up, and sadly, the tools work all too often for them…. But the scariest kind of manipulator is the one who knows EXACTLY what he/she is doing.

    The first step in avoiding manipulators is recognizing them. There are lots of different styles of manipulators out there, but in relationships the 2 worst seem to be the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”co-dependent emotional blackmailer\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”patronizing mind-fucker\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. This little diatribe is about the latter kind, though both types of manipulators have the ultimate goal of controlling people. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s just that the first kind does it by playing the \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”sad puppy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and sulking, and the second kind, by being patronizing and supercilious. Whatever the type, manipulators get what they want by fucking with your head and your heart, instead of using open, emotionally honest communication and negotiation.

    So, without further adieu, Heartless Bitches International presents a compiled list of things to be on the lookout for when getting involved in a new relationship or….

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”How to recognize a Man who is a Patronizing Mind-Fucker\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    (For the guys who are reading this, just change the gender references around, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’cause most of this applies to manipulative women too… and honey, they\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re OUT there…)

    1.) He has lots of psycho-babble books on his shelves.

    The primary toolset for the mind-fucker is the psychology text book. He is an expert at understanding the way people think and feel. Many have the added value of having attended \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”personal development\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” and \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”motivational\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” courses.

    2.) He has had more than a few people tell him that he is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”.

    The manipulator has more than his share of detractors. His \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”friends\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” typically will not be his intellectual equals, because anyone with that level of intelligence has usually gotten pissed off with him, and told him which bus he can take to hell. It doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t bother the manipulator that others find his behavior patronizing, because he believes he is just \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”self-confident\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. The manipulator will insist that \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”insecure\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” people perceive someone who is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”self confident\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” as being \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”arrogant\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”.

    3.) He says he \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Worships/Adores/Idolizes Women\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” (or words to that effect).

    This is supposed to make you feel like he MUST be a good guy, since he doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t denigrate women. Bullshit. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s patronizing. To worship anything or anyone immediately sets the worshipper apart from the object of his worship. It objectifies the worshipped person(s) such that true emotional intimacy is not possible. Not only that, but it subtly pressures the idolized person to try and live up to the guy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s lofty expectations. His claim to worship also gives him a firm wall to put his back up against when he starts putting you down later on…. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t possibly dismiss your feelings or denigrate your actions, I WORSHIP women…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators often use patronizing behavior because it allows them to control a situation, place themselves in a position of superiority, and yet claim that they are \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”caring\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” for and understanding you. If you point out that their behavior is \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”patronizing\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”, they will counter by insisting that you are either insecure or misinterpreting them.

    4.) He says he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Not like all the other guys….\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    A manipulative man will often try to tell you how he doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t relate well to other men – how he is much more sensitive, and non-competitive than the vast majority of men out there. That in itself is oxymoronic, since he is by his very statements, comparing himself with, and competing against other men. Think about it:
    If he really was more sensitive and less competitive, he wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have to brag to you about it….
    (and he wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have so many people who dislike him)
    Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t ever believe (or take seriously) someone who says \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m not like the rest of humanity/men/women/dogs/whatever…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” They\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re the least qualified judge of that… (and have the most to gain by lying/faking/misbelieving about it…)

    5.) He uses thinly veiled insults

    A manipulator is a control freak. He always has to be on top, especially in a discussion or argument where you are not in full agreement with him. To that end he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s honed the skill of using subtly derisive comments in such a way that it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s very difficult to accuse him of insulting you. eg:

    The manipulator says, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Brand X cars are the best, most reliable cars on the market.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    You say, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Hmmmm… I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’d have to disagree. I had one for three years, and had nothing but trouble with it.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    The manipulator replies, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I know many people who have never had any problems with their Brand X cars, and are all highly intelligent and excellent drivers.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a style which cannot be -directly- attacked as ad hominem. Sneaky, isn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t it? Derails the discussion, doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t it?

    The adverbs and modifiers on his statement have no basis for being there. The subtle implication is that YOU must not be as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”highly intelligent\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” nor \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”as good a driver\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” as the other people he knows.

    If you call him on it, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll just deny that any insult was intended, and imply that you must have self-confidence problems if you are seeing his simple conversational statements as personal attacks…

    6.) He rationalizes his power-tripping as \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”altruistic\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    Manipulators love to power trip. While they rationalize their behavior as altruism, the real reason these guys \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” others is because they get off on the sense of control that it gives them. There is also the added bonus of being able to sprinkle references about your good works in casual conversations. Many manipulators are on a mission (which borders on the evangelical) to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”help\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” other people, even if those people don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t want or appreciate the help. A manipulator is the kind of person who will make an unprovoked attack on someone\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s beliefs, couched in sarcasm, and then justify his behavior by saying that he was \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”just encouraging them to think more deeply about their convictions.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    To which I say: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”What the hell gives YOU the right?!\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”

    7.) He can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t handle you disagreeing with him.

    If you disagree with something he says, or some opinion he holds, (and especially if you strongly disagree), he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll imply that you obviously must have some hangups about the subject matter, because it certainly couldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t have been what he said or how he said it that was the problem. He\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll even go on to suggest that your problem is REALLY one of being a control freak, and that you evidently cannot handle someone not being moved over to YOUR opinions. The manipulator is a skilled wordsmith, and headgames are his forte.

    8.) He asks for your opinion so he can shoot it down.

    A favorite ploy of manipulators is the pretense of interest in your point of view, ideas, or solutions to problems. But a manipulator really isn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t interested in learning or adopting new ideas you might have. You will also notice that he rarely asks about you, or shows much interest in what is happening in your life. If a manipulator asks you for your ideas, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s so that he can shoot them down.

    9.) He deflects any responsibility for the effects of his statements.

    While we are all responsible for ourselves and our feelings, we cannot deny our own responsibility in contributing to a relationship. All parties involved in a relationship bear the responsibility of making it work. If there are problems, the manipulator will insist that his actions have not impacted the relationship in any negative way.

    To this end, the manipulator has all kinds of verbal tools for deflecting criticism. Any misunderstandings are always YOUR fault for choosing to perceive his actions/words the way you did…. If you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’re really lucky he may even go so far as to accuse you of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”trying to change him\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”, or pressure him to \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”stop being himself\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. (My response to that is: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I wouldn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t DREAM of trying to change you. You can stay EXACTLY the way you are, just so long as it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s FAR away from me!\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”)

    If he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s on a roll, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll accuse you of \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”personally attacking\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” him when you tell him what you find painful or unkind in his behavior. He will play all sorts of word games, in order to twist the perception, such that it looks like YOU are personally attacking him. For instance, if you tell him that you perceive one of his statements to be belittling and/or demeaning, he will insist:

    that was not his intention,
    that you are projecting your own interpretations on his actions,
    that you are trying to tell him WHAT he was thinking and intending,
    and based on all that, your comments are a personal attack on him.
    QED.
    Nice little ploy there, eh? He twists your statement about your feelings around to be, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”because you feel it, you are implying I must have intended it, and because I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t intend it, it means you are attacking me.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    Bleah. If you run into this kind of thing, don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t waste your breath trying to get him to understand, because this kind of person is not open to accepting your feelings as valid. Just turn and walk away.

    10.) He never REALLY apologizes.

    The manipulator can never truly admit he is wrong. At best, he will suggest you \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”agree to disagree\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. If he DOES apologize, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s a back-handed apology, that usually has a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”but\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” in it:

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m sorry that you were upset about my not attending the party, -BUT- I had alot on my mind that day. You should have reminded me.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    Notice the careful phrasing? Notice that there is NO acceptance for any responsibilty in the statement? Notice how the onus of responsibility for his non-attendance has been shifted to YOU?
    A non-manipulator would likely have said something like:

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”Damn. I screwed up. I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m sorry I missed that party. I know it was important to you. Next time, I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’m going to have to write it down on BOTH HANDS…\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”
    What to do when you come across a Manipulator

    If you spend too much time with a manipulator, and your self-esteem is at all on shaky ground, his comments will eat away at your self-confidence. He\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll talk the talk about wanting you to be self-confident and independent, but he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll undermine it with subtle and twisted contradictory statements, and even warp his body language such that it doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t match his words. In a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”relationship\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” we tend to trust, and CARE about what our partner\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s think about us, so a relationship with a manipulator can be deadly to a woman\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’s sense of self. (Unless you have reached the pinnacle of Heartless Bitchiness, and you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t require validation from anything or anyone other than yourself.)

    If someone you know is pulling stunts like those mentioned here, ditch the asshole, FAST. Because if you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t, the next thing you know, he\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll be trying to suck you back in by saying that YOU are avoiding responsiblity for your actions and feelings by walking away from him. This is just oh so much CRAP. Despite what he says, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”not responding\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\” any further to him, and exiting (stage left), is VERY responsible of you. You are taking control of your life and your emotional well-being by actively dropping a severely stressful situation into the dusty bin of old memories (and minor scars) where it aptly belongs…

  623. dana

    On February 14, 2010 at 5:31 am


    Hey there. I see alot of bashing when it comes to pisces and I know how you feel. I have a baby by one and I am married to a Taurus and both of them can suck. I am a Leo I can get my tail between my legs at times when my pride is hurt. My baby’s dad who is the fish use to throw up my husband in my face constantly when him and I would fight and then guess what I took our son and came back to my husband and we were almost gettin ready to get a divorce.Here is the thing I miss my fish and I hope he misses me. He has another bab’s mother and I believe in my heart they were sleeping together. So on Christmas I left him and had my husband comew and get me and my son out of there. 1 month later he contacts me well his sister did and he wanted to see his son and I told her that I was not going to let him take him but they were more than welcome to come over my house. His sister said she knows her brother and she said this is something he was not going to do.Why? Why do you think he will not come over? You would think that if he loved his son like he said he did than he would do what ever it took to come over. I was with him for 1 1/2 yrs. and we lived together the whole time. What does he think he can still come in my life when he chooses? tell me this because i need some help. We only would fight when he was really drunk always the day after.It was crazy he was mentally abusive. So Christmas day I had it I called my husband and told him to come get me in front of him. Now he wants to see his son and now I am on the same page I want to let him. My husband wants him to come over here because he does not want him and I to be by ourselves because he thinks him and I might get back together. Maybe he is right but like I told my husband he does not want me any more. I miss his friendship and our laughs. I do not miss the fights at all.I am not on here to bash him I want him to respect and trust me again. How do I regain this from a fish and I am a Lion.I wrote a letter and a poem and sent a picture of me and his son and $10.00 for a valentines gift ho will he respond to this??? I need to know if I did the right thing. Will he ever talk to me again???? Or will he leave my son always wondering and me also. you know us Leos we can be very over bdfearing.I was just hurt this is why I came back to my hubbie. helph I need some advice

  624. Flash

    On February 20, 2010 at 4:05 am


    @Dana. Not to be hard on you but gee..you really do need help. Or I need help understanding. What exactly is it that you miss? The cheating on you or the drunken behaviour or the fights? Or could it be the cowardly way he has not tried to contact you to see your son but instead has his sister do it? Wow…what a man.!! So…you miss the wimpy wishy washy behaviour & deceit? I take it too since he has made no contact that he is not helping you with child support. Yeah…I can see why you miss him so much. Guys like him are 1 in a million. Oy wait…I had a fish just like that too !! And I fell for it too. But the more time passes the more I feel that I was never leveled with from the beginning. I think he told me enough truth & deep dark secrets to gain my trust. Seems to me you have a real man there taking care of you. You run off w/ another man & have his child & then Christmas just call & say “come & get me” and your husband does? And just takes you back in like that and cares for you and your son? But you yearn for the fish that you cannot catch. He was always throwing your husband up in your face from pure jealously. He knew the bull had a spine..something that fish is not capable of. Please…let me know. What is it that is wrong with your husband that you cannot love & respect him? I really am being quite sarcastic from a great deal of pain caused to me from a very short relationship w/ a dark fish. I do not mean to be so hard on you. I am being hard on me too. What is it about these guys that make them so hard to get off your mind? Mine has had no contact AT ALL w/ me & I have been trying to get my stuff back. He just wants to disappear when he is through & thinks that is what I should do too. NOT!!! I do not run off & hide. I move on. I would suggest You try to do the same. What will it take for you to move on? Maybe we can help each other?

  625. FunkyAqua

    On March 21, 2010 at 12:37 am


    Wow! After reading all the comments here I now understand so much about the pisce guy I was hooked on. I have really appreciated some of the posters here especially pisce(male), beauty queen, foxy lady, run(lol!) and especially Ivy(March2009)- THANK YOU IVY! Thanks to you and your posts I am not sure I would have made it through!

    To SpanishPisces or GoodPisces, I’d like to disagree with your comparing two types of pisces. For me, a pisces will be a pisces whether he is rich, educated, poor etc.

    The guy I’ve been crazy about is well educated, well off, good job, a strong position in the firm we worked and has been in a long term relationship. This I suppose is the good pisce type, right?

    About five months ago, I joined the firm I work at. We met at random but then I really didn’t take much notice of him. We’ve got an indoor gym at work so I’d usually workout after work. He does too. That’s when I started noticing him. He approached me and told me how he liked the way I was training. Unlike my other female colleagues, who enjoy cardio, I do a lot of weight lifting and I’m not intimidated by the men who crowd the free weights area. Thinking about it now, I realized that’s what really attracted him. I’m strong, confident and a bit pompous I must say. That’s my nature.

    We chatted the few times we met at the gym. He’d always come over to me, ask me questions about myself, my hobbies and he’d talk about himself too. I think at the beginning I was quite oblivious that he liked me and then I noticed he liked following me around, asking me what I’m up to with my workout etc… I even started avoiding him at some point whenever I knew he was in the gym, lol!
    Over a month ago, I don’t know what the hell happened, my feelings toward him changed! I, who used to be annoyed with him, started enjoying his company, spending more time chatting about everything and nothing instead of working out.
    He comes down the gym at least three times a week and every time I was excited to see him. I realized I actually like the guy. He’s sensitive, charming, caring, clever, smart and tall and I sense he would be a good lover too. He asked me if had a boyfriend and I say no. He told me he didn’t have a girl either. And broke up with his ex (8 years together) who used to treat him horribly. (Now thinking about it, she must have been a very dominant woman, the type that pisces like).

    One day I got impulsive, and emailed him, talking about anything and then I asked him if he could guess why I emailed him. He said he didn’t know. I told him I like him a lot. I asked him if he felt the same and he nver gave me a clear answer!

    He’d come to the gym and would never mention our convo about my feelings for him and instead pick a different topic of conversation. We’d email or text each other but I’d the one doing most of the work, texting more and him taking ages to reply or not replying at all. I’d even call but no answer either.

    Then a few days later when I asked him why he was so distant, he said he didn’t like chatting on the work email. He gave me his personal one and told me to contact him. I did, hoping to get some clear answers,which never happened. No replies.

    I wish I had found out what sign he was beforehand because I realize that I’ve been too pushy. At some point I told him his attitude put me off and I didn’t understand why give me his phone number, his email and he’d never write, reply etc and most of the time on IM(work or home) he’d be on busy or in meeting status.
    So I got confused and angry. Some time, we’ll be talking and he’d be like his mind is just wandering. That freaked me out and I was thinking ‘is he bipolar or what???’ then he’d apologize and say he was thinking about something. Still no response about him wanting me in his life.
    So after doing most of the chase, I finally ask him if he wanted me to stop harassing him and he finally said yes. He told me he couldn’t pursue a relationship with me because the firm forbids it etc… blah blah so I said fine.
    I was hurt and for few days I couldn’t sleep and constantly thought about him. It was like being back in high school!
    However I didn’t see at work nor at the gym for a week and couldn’t resist sending him an email asking if he was okay. He didn’t reply.
    A few days later I texted him, telling him how I couldn’t shake him off my head, that I missed his company and I din’t care about the company rules etc. He told me he was on hols and asked me what I wanted. I replied I wanted him, I wanted to b e his friend first and maybe more if he allowed me.

    He said no, he called me crazy for falling for him, that I didn’t even know him since I only saw him at the gym and at work that’s it. He ‘zoned friend’ me with the typical reply that i’m cool, nice and enjoy weight training but I work at the firm and for the 15 years he worked there he never has gone out with a colleague. That was the nail that sealed it. I was angry and told him I wish he had told me this earlier instead of leading me on etc.
    I hurt a lot. I had my hols coming so I went away to chill and try to forget. but that was hard. He was constantly in my mind!! At some point I even contemplating leaving the firm so I could be with him!
    I came back from holidays after two weeks, and went for a workout and saw him and totally ignored him. we exchanged a few stares and I could sense he wanted me around, he wanted me to talk to him but I didn’t. Later on, I felt so bad. I waited another day and IM(Instant Message) him to say hello and he didn’t reply. I sent him an email apologizing for ignoring him at the gym and told him that I’d like us to get back to the friendship we used to have. He never replied either.
    That hurt me so much and I got mad with myself because a little voice inside had beent telling me for weeks to ignore him, be strong and stop pestering him because my behavior was coming as kinda crazy, needy, stalker and insecure!!!

    So after coming to this site and reading Ivy’s post, I feel so much better.
    I feel released and ready to move on. I know I’ll see him at work, at the gym but this time I won’t dread it or feel this strange clench in my chest. I won’t cry or hurt when he ignores me. I’ll stand up tall and concentrate on my job. I’m ready to let it go. I know he never says he liked me but I wished he had told me the first time I revealed my feelings for him that he was not interested in me. Why lead me on for weeks before ditching me like a dry piece of wood?? Why confuse me?
    Sometimes, I also regret for coming strong onto him and pressuring him but that’s how intense I can be when I like someone and want to be with that person. Readign most of the posts on here I see I might have scared him, he wasn’t ready for a relaitonship, or he lost interest when I turned clingy and not the strong determined woman he expected me to be. And I can guarantee you, I’m never that clingy with men. I am very independent but this pisces drove me crazy. There was something about him(and I told him that) that drew me to him and I couldn’t resist despite his later evasive, strange and bipolar behavior.
    Hopefully someone else will come along and will be more willing. I’m so happy I found this site and read the posts. it gave me a great insight into the mind of the pisce man and I wish I leanrt it earlier. I would have probably acted differently but in the long term, our relationship wouldn’t have worked.
    I know most of the regulars no longer post on here but I wanted to say thank you if you ever lurk again. I wanted to share my experience and I know there’s no future with that guy. Just by ignoring him, he might come back to me and ask me out who knows but I don’t think I’ll be up for it by then. I got so much to look for it.
    As Ivy said, find a hobby, be strong, do things you enjoy! It’s hard but it can be done.
    Best wishes!

  626. FunkyAqua

    On March 21, 2010 at 12:37 am


    Wow! After reading all the comments here I now understand so much about the pisce guy I was hooked on. I have really appreciated some of the posters here especially pisce(male), beauty queen, foxy lady, run(lol!) and especially Ivy(March2009)- THANK YOU IVY! Thanks to you and your posts I am not sure I would have made it through!

    To SpanishPisces or GoodPisces, I\’d like to disagree with your comparing two types of pisces. For me, a pisces will be a pisces whether he is rich, educated, poor etc.

    The guy I\’ve been crazy about is well educated, well off, good job, a strong position in the firm we worked and has been in a long term relationship. This I suppose is the good pisce type, right?

    About five months ago, I joined the firm I work at. We met at random but then I really didn\’t take much notice of him. We\’ve got an indoor gym at work so I\’d usually workout after work. He does too. That\’s when I started noticing him. He approached me and told me how he liked the way I was training. Unlike my other female colleagues, who enjoy cardio, I do a lot of weight lifting and I\’m not intimidated by the men who crowd the free weights area. Thinking about it now, I realized that\’s what really attracted him. I\’m strong, confident and a bit pompous I must say. That\’s my nature.

    We chatted the few times we met at the gym. He\’d always come over to me, ask me questions about myself, my hobbies and he\’d talk about himself too. I think at the beginning I was quite oblivious that he liked me and then I noticed he liked following me around, asking me what I\’m up to with my workout etc… I even started avoiding him at some point whenever I knew he was in the gym, lol!
    Over a month ago, I don\’t know what the hell happened, my feelings toward him changed! I, who used to be annoyed with him, started enjoying his company, spending more time chatting about everything and nothing instead of working out.
    He comes down the gym at least three times a week and every time I was excited to see him. I realized I actually like the guy. He\’s sensitive, charming, caring, clever, smart and tall and I sense he would be a good lover too. He asked me if had a boyfriend and I say no. He told me he didn\’t have a girl either. And broke up with his ex (8 years together) who used to treat him horribly. (Now thinking about it, she must have been a very dominant woman, the type that pisces like).

    One day I got impulsive, and emailed him, talking about anything and then I asked him if he could guess why I emailed him. He said he didn\’t know. I told him I like him a lot. I asked him if he felt the same and he nver gave me a clear answer!

    He\’d come to the gym and would never mention our convo about my feelings for him and instead pick a different topic of conversation. We\’d email or text each other but I\’d the one doing most of the work, texting more and him taking ages to reply or not replying at all. I\’d even call but no answer either.

    Then a few days later when I asked him why he was so distant, he said he didn\’t like chatting on the work email. He gave me his personal one and told me to contact him. I did, hoping to get some clear answers,which never happened. No replies.

    I wish I had found out what sign he was beforehand because I realize that I\’ve been too pushy. At some point I told him his attitude put me off and I didn\’t understand why give me his phone number, his email and he\’d never write, reply etc and most of the time on IM(work or home) he\’d be on busy or in meeting status.
    So I got confused and angry. Some time, we\’ll be talking and he\’d be like his mind is just wandering. That freaked me out and I was thinking \’is he bipolar or what???\’ then he\’d apologize and say he was thinking about something. Still no response about him wanting me in his life.
    So after doing most of the chase, I finally ask him if he wanted me to stop harassing him and he finally said yes. He told me he couldn\’t pursue a relationship with me because the firm forbids it etc… blah blah so I said fine.
    I was hurt and for few days I couldn\’t sleep and constantly thought about him. It was like being back in high school!
    However I didn\’t see at work nor at the gym for a week and couldn\’t resist sending him an email asking if he was okay. He didn\’t reply.
    A few days later I texted him, telling him how I couldn\’t shake him off my head, that I missed his company and I din\’t care about the company rules etc. He told me he was on hols and asked me what I wanted. I replied I wanted him, I wanted to b e his friend first and maybe more if he allowed me.

    He said no, he called me crazy for falling for him, that I didn\’t even know him since I only saw him at the gym and at work that\’s it. He \’zoned friend\’ me with the typical reply that i\’m cool, nice and enjoy weight training but I work at the firm and for the 15 years he worked there he never has gone out with a colleague. That was the nail that sealed it. I was angry and told him I wish he had told me this earlier instead of leading me on etc.
    I hurt a lot. I had my hols coming so I went away to chill and try to forget. but that was hard. He was constantly in my mind!! At some point I even contemplating leaving the firm so I could be with him!
    I came back from holidays after two weeks, and went for a workout and saw him and totally ignored him. we exchanged a few stares and I could sense he wanted me around, he wanted me to talk to him but I didn\’t. Later on, I felt so bad. I waited another day and IM(Instant Message) him to say hello and he didn\’t reply. I sent him an email apologizing for ignoring him at the gym and told him that I\’d like us to get back to the friendship we used to have. He never replied either.
    That hurt me so much and I got mad with myself because a little voice inside had beent telling me for weeks to ignore him, be strong and stop pestering him because my behavior was coming as kinda crazy, needy, stalker and insecure!!!

    So after coming to this site and reading Ivy\’s post, I feel so much better.
    I feel released and ready to move on. I know I\’ll see him at work, at the gym but this time I won\’t dread it or feel this strange clench in my chest. I won\’t cry or hurt when he ignores me. I\’ll stand up tall and concentrate on my job. I\’m ready to let it go. I know he never says he liked me but I wished he had told me the first time I revealed my feelings for him that he was not interested in me. Why lead me on for weeks before ditching me like a dry piece of wood?? Why confuse me?
    Sometimes, I also regret for coming strong onto him and pressuring him but that\’s how intense I can be when I like someone and want to be with that person. Readign most of the posts on here I see I might have scared him, he wasn\’t ready for a relaitonship, or he lost interest when I turned clingy and not the strong determined woman he expected me to be. And I can guarantee you, I\’m never that clingy with men. I am very independent but this pisces drove me crazy. There was something about him(and I told him that) that drew me to him and I couldn\’t resist despite his later evasive, strange and bipolar behavior.
    Hopefully someone else will come along and will be more willing. I\’m so happy I found this site and read the posts. it gave me a great insight into the mind of the pisce man and I wish I leanrt it earlier. I would have probably acted differently but in the long term, our relationship wouldn\’t have worked.
    I know most of the regulars no longer post on here but I wanted to say thank you if you ever lurk again. I wanted to share my experience and I know there\’s no future with that guy. Just by ignoring him, he might come back to me and ask me out who knows but I don\’t think I\’ll be up for it by then. I got so much to look for it.
    As Ivy said, find a hobby, be strong, do things you enjoy! It\’s hard but it can be done.
    Best wishes!

  627. FunkyAqua

    On March 21, 2010 at 12:41 am


    Wow! After reading all the comments here I now understand so much about the pisce guy I was hooked on. I have really appreciated some of the posters here especially pisce(male), beauty queen, foxy lady, run(lol!) and especially Ivy(March2009)- THANK YOU IVY! Thanks to you and your posts I am not sure I would have made it through!

    To SpanishPisces or GoodPisces, I’d like to disagree with your comparing two types of pisces. For me, a pisces will be a pisces whether he is rich, educated, poor etc.

    The guy I’ve been crazy about is well educated, well off, good job, a strong position in the firm we worked and has been in a long term relationship. This I suppose is the good pisce type, right?

    About five months ago, I joined the firm I work at. We met at random but then I really didn’t take much notice of him. We’ve got an indoor gym at work so I\\\’d usually workout after work. He does too. That\\\’s when I started noticing him. He approached me and told me how he liked the way I was training. Unlike my other female colleagues, who enjoy cardio, I do a lot of weight lifting and I\\\’m not intimidated by the men who crowd the free weights area. Thinking about it now, I realized that\\\’s what really attracted him. I\\\’m strong, confident and a bit pompous I must say. That\\\’s my nature.

    We chatted the few times we met at the gym. He\\\’d always come over to me, ask me questions about myself, my hobbies and he\\\’d talk about himself too. I think at the beginning I was quite oblivious that he liked me and then I noticed he liked following me around, asking me what I\\\’m up to with my workout etc… I even started avoiding him at some point whenever I knew he was in the gym, lol!
    Over a month ago, I don\\\’t know what the hell happened, my feelings toward him changed! I, who used to be annoyed with him, started enjoying his company, spending more time chatting about everything and nothing instead of working out.
    He comes down the gym at least three times a week and every time I was excited to see him. I realized I actually like the guy. He\\\’s sensitive, charming, caring, clever, smart and tall and I sense he would be a good lover too. He asked me if had a boyfriend and I say no. He told me he didn\\\’t have a girl either. And broke up with his ex (8 years together) who used to treat him horribly. (Now thinking about it, she must have been a very dominant woman, the type that pisces like).

    One day I got impulsive, and emailed him, talking about anything and then I asked him if he could guess why I emailed him. He said he didn\\\’t know. I told him I like him a lot. I asked him if he felt the same and he nver gave me a clear answer!

    He\\\’d come to the gym and would never mention our convo about my feelings for him and instead pick a different topic of conversation. We\\\’d email or text each other but I\\\’d the one doing most of the work, texting more and him taking ages to reply or not replying at all. I\\\’d even call but no answer either.

    Then a few days later when I asked him why he was so distant, he said he didn\\\’t like chatting on the work email. He gave me his personal one and told me to contact him. I did, hoping to get some clear answers,which never happened. No replies.

    I wish I had found out what sign he was beforehand because I realize that I\\\’ve been too pushy. At some point I told him his attitude put me off and I didn\\\’t understand why give me his phone number, his email and he\\\’d never write, reply etc and most of the time on IM(work or home) he\\\’d be on busy or in meeting status.
    So I got confused and angry. Some time, we\\\’ll be talking and he\\\’d be like his mind is just wandering. That freaked me out and I was thinking \\\’is he bipolar or what???\\\’ then he\\\’d apologize and say he was thinking about something. Still no response about him wanting me in his life.
    So after doing most of the chase, I finally ask him if he wanted me to stop harassing him and he finally said yes. He told me he couldn\\\’t pursue a relationship with me because the firm forbids it etc… blah blah so I said fine.
    I was hurt and for few days I couldn\\\’t sleep and constantly thought about him. It was like being back in high school!
    However I didn\\\’t see at work nor at the gym for a week and couldn\\\’t resist sending him an email asking if he was okay. He didn\\\’t reply.
    A few days later I texted him, telling him how I couldn\\\’t shake him off my head, that I missed his company and I din\\\’t care about the company rules etc. He told me he was on hols and asked me what I wanted. I replied I wanted him, I wanted to b e his friend first and maybe more if he allowed me.

    He said no, he called me crazy for falling for him, that I didn\\\’t even know him since I only saw him at the gym and at work that\\\’s it. He \\\’zoned friend\\\’ me with the typical reply that i\\\’m cool, nice and enjoy weight training but I work at the firm and for the 15 years he worked there he never has gone out with a colleague. That was the nail that sealed it. I was angry and told him I wish he had told me this earlier instead of leading me on etc.
    I hurt a lot. I had my hols coming so I went away to chill and try to forget. but that was hard. He was constantly in my mind!! At some point I even contemplating leaving the firm so I could be with him!
    I came back from holidays after two weeks, and went for a workout and saw him and totally ignored him. we exchanged a few stares and I could sense he wanted me around, he wanted me to talk to him but I didn\\\’t. Later on, I felt so bad. I waited another day and IM(Instant Message) him to say hello and he didn\\\’t reply. I sent him an email apologizing for ignoring him at the gym and told him that I\\\’d like us to get back to the friendship we used to have. He never replied either.
    That hurt me so much and I got mad with myself because a little voice inside had beent telling me for weeks to ignore him, be strong and stop pestering him because my behavior was coming as kinda crazy, needy, stalker and insecure!!!

    So after coming to this site and reading Ivy\\\’s post, I feel so much better.
    I feel released and ready to move on. I know I\\\’ll see him at work, at the gym but this time I won\\\’t dread it or feel this strange clench in my chest. I won\\\’t cry or hurt when he ignores me. I\\\’ll stand up tall and concentrate on my job. I\\\’m ready to let it go. I know he never says he liked me but I wished he had told me the first time I revealed my feelings for him that he was not interested in me. Why lead me on for weeks before ditching me like a dry piece of wood?? Why confuse me?
    Sometimes, I also regret for coming strong onto him and pressuring him but that\\\’s how intense I can be when I like someone and want to be with that person. Readign most of the posts on here I see I might have scared him, he wasn\\\’t ready for a relaitonship, or he lost interest when I turned clingy and not the strong determined woman he expected me to be. And I can guarantee you, I\\\’m never that clingy with men. I am very independent but this pisces drove me crazy. There was something about him(and I told him that) that drew me to him and I couldn\\\’t resist despite his later evasive, strange and bipolar behavior.
    Hopefully someone else will come along and will be more willing. I\\\’m so happy I found this site and read the posts. it gave me a great insight into the mind of the pisce man and I wish I leanrt it earlier. I would have probably acted differently but in the long term, our relationship wouldn\\\’t have worked.
    I know most of the regulars no longer post on here but I wanted to say thank you if you ever lurk again. I wanted to share my experience and I know there\\\’s no future with that guy. Just by ignoring him, he might come back to me and ask me out who knows but I don\\\’t think I\\\’ll be up for it by then. I got so much to look for it.
    As Ivy said, find a hobby, be strong, do things you enjoy! It\\\’s hard but it can be done.
    Best wishes!

  628. Flash

    On March 26, 2010 at 1:38 am


    Hello. I really hate how these men do us. Really. After a 3 mo whirlwind romance & now 1 1/2 mos silence…I am really beginning to detest this cowardly loser. I like closure. And I want my possessions back. He has texted – out of the blue- abt 3 times saying he is mailing back my phone…still have not gotten it. Abt every 10 days I snd text again…has he gotten that mailed ??? And have been given SO MANY LAME excuses now I wonder what I saw in him & why I tried so hard to help him. I have no idea who I am angrier at…him for all his phony bull …or me for believing it. I want my stuff but I do not want contact w/ him or to beg for him to send it. And I really want to let him have it…tell him what a ball-less loser he really is but I also just want to never contact him again. Ever. I think that makes a bolder stmnt. His hanging onto my stuff is his way of having some control over me…having a reason for me to contact him…etc. It is a power trip & game. I really hate him. It is hard to not text & say so but I just want this all done…no fighting, no “cold war”…just over. It is a 5 hr drive to his house so a pop in to get things not something I can do. Plus I have a diabetic 10 yr old w/ me that does not need emothional turmoil. Suggestions on how to get back my new phone w/ 2 yr contract on phone line & my sons playstation and games? I told him keep all the rest even..pls snd phone. That all & he will not do. We have had no bad wrds….no fights..brk up was him just disappearing. So it cannot be that. I did so much trying to help him—including the phone to look for wrk & he gets a job & gone in 60 seconds. He has no idea how angy I am. I will not give him the satisfaction of knowing the power he has. And like Aqua says…bipolar. Bipolar at it’s finest. Aqua…he sucked you in because u were strong & he wanted his game to brk u dwn…The power he feels over u now. Feel it ? Passive aggresive bipolar asses. That lie & cheat. Pump up some more w/ those weights & whip his ass. If he is like the wussy fish I knew…he will run scared ….the loser cowards. NOT WORTH IT. !!!

  629. Pisceslover

    On March 30, 2010 at 2:07 pm


    Spanish Pisces and Good Pisces please come back…you both had such wonderful insights and advice that we need to hear. I also miss The Tigress and her feistiness, flirtatious, honesty, warmth and wisdom. The string of experiences and comments on this site have been good don’t stop because the haters have arrived.
    For sake of judgement and criticism here it goes…
    I am a (30 something ;) Libra with cancer rising artist and I don’t know what it is but I connect so deeply with Pisces men! For the last five years I have been involved with three different Pisces from all walks of life. From the artist, the business man to the vagabond surfer and they have all brought not only an immense amount of heartache but incredible beauty, unconditional acceptance and love as well as growth into my life. I can’t hate these men, even when the relationships have ended in disappointment and pain. They have all brought lessons (even the one who became an abusive stalker) that I have needed to learn and grow from and at the end of the day that is all we can ask for in our relationships…Nothing lasts forever, life is not stagnant and so we need to keep moving and keep growing through thick and thin and like they say, what doesn’t kill you will only makes you stronger.
    I still truly and deeply care for all of them as disturbing as that might sound (hello abusive stalker) because I understand Pisces don’t intentionally mean to hurt in anyway. My dear sweet bloggers, life and love is messy and there is nothing about a relationship that is easy, but that is what makes it all worth living!

  630. Sabrina

    On April 5, 2010 at 1:34 pm


    One thing I have noticed is that almost all Pisces man like to ‘texts” more than calling up actually you up which is funny .All my ex-s of other star sign always calls but my two ex-Pisces bf usually texts more than calling ups!

  631. Spanish Pisces

    On April 7, 2010 at 7:09 pm


    @Pisceslover I do not see the point for either me or good pisces to return. While i do check the article from time to time out of curiosity, i do not feel the need to partecipate in it. The discussion is dead, the few good, gentle, wise posters are long since gone and all what is left is a few bitter women patting each other´s back and believing pisces men will be the cause for world war 3. I do hope you ladies the best, but no thanks, not interested.
    Take care.

  632. Demetrius

    On April 9, 2010 at 11:22 am


    I am A piscean Guy and I have no problem expressing myself and spekaing my mind. I am a loner at time and can be too in touch with me feeling but I guess that’s why they say we are dreamers because I dream of the perfect love which probably doesn’t exist. I know that I am a good man and I would go out on any limb for the love of my life just to make sure she is happy. I do think at time we get lost in ourselves and want things to just be perfect all the time. I mean I know life will never be perfect but I guess we just need consistent emotions and feelings from our lovers. A stroke of the ego at times and to actually know that we are loved as much as we put out. I am a hopeless romantic but has yet to find a woman that deserves to see the sponataneous side of me and get surprised with the roses and candle light dinners that I prepared for her. The easiest way to love a Piscean man would be with constant love. Some guys are a trip and guys do mess it up for ourselve at times but a true Piscean Lover will sweep you offf of your feet and be the love of your and give you what you deserve if you allow it.

  633. Emma

    On April 19, 2010 at 3:19 pm


    I just have a question; In my understanding intimacy makes people closer to eachother…why is it not the case with the pisces man ? Everytime that happens I don’t hear from him for a while??
    Any thoughts ? Thanks !

  634. Advice from a fish guy!

    On May 6, 2010 at 10:33 am


    Don’t get involved with us, we are dangerous(that’s what most of you here believe anyway).
    I’ve dumped as many girls/women as i had to, from early teens until some time ago; mostly because they were: stupid,cold,inconsiderate,jealous,restrictive,posesive,emotional traps,fashion accidents,socially impaired etc(a combination of those factors).
    You’re all such pathetic crybabies, looking for signs in the stars of who is destined for you…NO ONE IS FOR YOU as long as you act as victims and look for omens(man made or divine); take control of your lives or end up broken shells.
    TO SUM IT ALL UP: Pisces are fcking Cassanovas that will break your hearts and leave you for the next “catch” without ever closing the chapter.Now, if you believe that don’t ever date a man from this sign; if you however posses half a brain you’d date/marry whoever makes you happy(no matter the zodiac sign) and is there for you(among other things).Relationships are hell no matter with whom, make it work or leave it.
    Gday,from a fish married to a taurus woman somewhere in Europe.

  635. Flash

    On May 7, 2010 at 12:21 am


    Yeah Fish Guy I hear ya! Fashion accidents ?? That is hilarious! But I know what ya mean. Not all relationships do work out…jst gotta try & see. And I see your point. If they do not wrk out blame both people or blame no one, that is jst the way things go. Agreed. All relationships are hard. With the benefit of hindsight, I see now now that my problem was that the guy I was involved w/ was just dishonest. Chemical dependance issues. So with that said, my apologies to all the good fish out there. Now…I hate drug addicts that are liars & theives !!! And hey Spanish Pisces…thanks for the help from your insight in the “been the child in this scene” advice. My son is really doing well with this now. He still thinks the best of our past friend & actually learned alot of good things from him in a short amount of time. I really hate “the guy” got wrapped up in heavy drugs. No good ever comes of that. Fish guy…love the fashion accident comment. That could have been me !! Ha And to you & Spanish Pisces…I personally do not think Pisces men are going to start World War III…I think the women on ” The View” are !! Love you guys for making me laugh. !! Thanks.

  636. SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMEN

    On May 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm


    Still going strong over here. I really wish this site wouldn’t have fallen off. I truly enjoyed reading the posts of sincere people. My Pisces Guy and I have had our share of ups and downs but we are committed to the relationship. I must admit that his inability to communicate his feelings is very hard for me. He has been hurt so bad in the past. He is very fearful of saying ” I Love You” or actually initiating romantic moments. Sometimes I get so frustrated, other times it feels as if he just doesn’t care. But I can see it in his eyes, and hear it with the way he speaks to me and supports me emotionally when I need it the most. I truly love him, I am hoping that one day he will feel secure enough to open up to me and trust me with his inner most feelings. I can wait for My Man. He is worth the wait. Meanwhile I am furthering my degree, my business is picking up and I am a single mom of two teenagers, so I have a full plate.

  637. Cappy Girl in

    On June 7, 2010 at 12:20 pm


    HELLO…

    So Im in love with this amazing human being. he is a professional athletes and he is a Pisces. Im a couple of years older than him, but I have an innocence to me, yes I am a capricorn… I have dated few guys for a couple of years but never really had a serious relationship… I have BEEN BUSY with the fam and my studies… so I never had a serious boyfriend, and yes I am a ————->> virgin.SHOCKING for a cute mid-twenties girl, I KNOW!!!

    So here comes this guy who I have worked with for a year or so… He is very shy and very nice, but I always keep it professional with him. But we do flirt! He knows I like him, and I always tell him how amazing I think he is! I would love to be with him for ever, because he is everything i deamed of in a guy! The problem is: 1. He got traded to a different state now, and 2. I would do anything to be with him if I know it would work. reading ALL of the posts above was kinda of depressing and scary to me… I am excited about him and I do not know what I should do!!! He is an amazing guy, and like I said, he shows me so much love, but I do not know if it’s just me or not! I hoped so until I came to this website. please HELP me!!!

    Also… Does anyone know how to impress a pieces, and make him fall in love, like how do u attract them and make a great first impression… Thank you in advance.. MUAH**

  638. Amerie

    On June 8, 2010 at 3:07 pm


    I figured out how to deal with pisces men …ignore them and be unpredictible…stop texting and calling them everyday.dissapear for like 3-4 days at a time..if he does it then why cant you ..ignore his text and calls every now and then and act aloof this will make him curious and keep him interested.go out with friends and have a good time…act like you dont care.you will never get rid of him trust me…

  639. ashley

    On June 12, 2010 at 4:36 am


    I went on a fabulous date with a pisces boy last week after talking on the phone before that. we had a pretty passionate and public make out session which is a little out of my comfort zone as a capricorn girl but its what i ended up liking most about him, that he made it feel like it was just me and him and shut everyone else out. Anyway, he texted me the next afternoon how he had a great time then we chatted back n forth n he said he was gonna call later but then i didnt hear from him till monday morning- another text. We’ve been texting since then but not like conversations instead he says something n i answer then he answers 4hours later-it sometimes takes me awhile to respond bc im busy but seems like however long it takes me to respond he’ll double it before his next reply. I wish he would just call. Some of the texts r of substance like he “cant stop thinking about that night” n then he’ll say “we should do that some time” Im not the kind of girl to wait by the phone for a guy and if i dont hear from someone in 3 days- no matter how good the date-ive usually moved on…n wed-till friday afternoon i heard nothing and was gonna delete his number but he texted again. Since its only been a week after r date im not too invested in it but im a planner and i just want to know might we be seeing each other again? Since i do like him I guess my question is it worth doing this dance or should i just cut him off now? This is new territory for me bc ive only had relationships with virgos, taurus and scorpois and a saggitarius (worst match for cap ever!) I have as many guy friends maybe more then girl friends and im totally okay when i dont hear from them for awhile- a long with some other guys im casually seeing, so i know i like this pisces bc hes the only one making me wonder y i haven’t heard from him. I dont like making the first move or moves unless were together then i dont mind being the aggressor, but if i never ask him out r we never gonna go out again? any insight would be most helpful. Thanks :)

  640. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 6:32 am


    I am afraid I have to break it down to you ladies in here and just be blunt!

    my twin and I are good successful guys but when it comes to women, we tend to “break lots of hearts” why? bcs we do not like drama and fights!!! we need our freedom all the time, so we only talk to hott girls because we are trying to have fun. that is what all pisces want in life, having fun and enjoying yourself and if you are going to ruin it, then there is no need for us to stay with you and we will ACT anyway we know to get out of the relationship, weather it’s acting cold/mad/distant/hurt/confused or anything else.

  641. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 6:36 am


    to Amerie:

    That might be the case if you have a loser Pisces for a man… that stuff wont fly with me because there are 100000 other fish (women) in the sea!

  642. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 6:49 am


    to Ashley:

    hey doll, not to be mean or anything, but your Pisces has other women on the side. at least 2 or 3 that he is interested in. In the meantime, if you really want to have him in your life, then you need to step your game up. I feel that Capricorn women are the best match for us, because they always have their life together, do not take no B.S., classy, funny, reliable, motherly instinct, grown, practical, secretly playful and always look beautiful. They are strong and I feel as they have just the right amount of energy/patience for us. How do I know? My only long term relationship (2 years) was with a Capricorn woman. My twin brother is now dating a Capricorn woman for 8 months and he is the type who can NEVER stay with one woman for more than a month.

    Now with that being said, I want to let you know that all good things must come to an end, and I know that Capricorn and all women in general are sensitive and if in love, they end up getting hurt after a break up. So what I am saying is, good luck, be you and NEVER put your guard down 100%

  643. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 6:59 am


    to Cappy Girl in:

    you sound like an intelligent admirable woman, why would you want to be in a long distance relationship with a Pisces athlete ?! Ouch!! I have two words for you: Shaquille O’neal! He is a Pisces basketball player and in case you have not heard, people claim he has/had 1000s of mistresses…

    As far as impressing Pisces men, well I have to say that when I personally scan and zoom in for a woman, she has to stand out of the bunch… she has to be an exotic/different/interesting creature. Remember that Pisces hates boring ordinary things.

  644. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 7:03 am


    to SCORPIONLOVESPISCESMEN:

    Focus on your life and hope for the best. anything is possible, wish for the best, but please be ready for the worst.

  645. Kyle28

    On June 12, 2010 at 7:06 am


    to Emma:

    I think it’s obvious! your pisces got what he wanted from you, and he will be back if he needs more intimacy. Sorry for the blunt answer baby.

  646. Taurus chick

    On June 22, 2010 at 12:39 am


    Hello, I dated a Pisces male for a few months. While Pisces are very kind and thoughtful, they’re also pathological liars. Needless to say our brief affair ended in disaster.

  647. THE SCORPIO REVENGE

    On August 6, 2010 at 1:12 am


    So glad I found this site and so funny how astrology is so accurate! I have never dated a Pisces before the old fart I just started dating 2 months ago; he is 19 yrs older than myself and a very successful businessman (rare for a Pisces to be good at business); he is flashing his black amex when we go out, he took me to his 10000 square foot house to show it to me, and basically he is trying to bait me with bs,. He never gave me a gift yet, he takes me to not too expensive restaurants and he bought me a dozen red roses once. It is true he travels a lot so we don\\\’t spent time together too much, but he seems cheap to me. He should be kissing my ass and thank to God he has me. Instead…

    Last Saturday I spent the night at his house after a dinner and concert date. It was fun, he is a great lover- Viagra maybe?. In the morning I left before he got up (I hate to linger) and later I text him saying I had an amazing time. I didn\\\’t hear from him that day (Sunday) – usually if a man doesn\\\’t call the next day after we were intimate I know he is a jerk- and on Monday morning I see he text-ed me at 2 am saying he can\\\’t sleep thinking of me and the time we spent together but that he is afraid I am tougher than he is and he will get hurt in the end. I didn\\\’t understand (of course!) what he meant, that he wanted to break up or what, so I answered saying that he is being negative, that I know his heart is in the right place and that I am not worried, what will be will be. I thought he will call or text me later that day- Monday- but I didn\\\’t hear from him. I had the feeling he wanted to break up but I said let me wait one more day. Tuesday came and went and he didn\\\’t contacted me again so I knew we are done. In the first month of dating he used to call me at least every other day, even when he was across the world form a different time zone, and now that he was home he didn\\\’t. I felt humiliated and hurt. How could he behave like a jerk when he used to be so nice and attentive before we had sex? I am too old to put up with this crap, men his age don\\\’t play games anymore – obviously the rule doesn\\\’t apply for Pisces; they remain immature for ever. I have NEVER slept with a guy who didn\\\’t call me right after, who dared to ignore me like that. I am smart and selective and I don\\\’t put out unless I feel I have his heart.

    I didn\\\’t understand WTF was wrong the the guy, did he die or something? He told me that before the date he was so excited he didn\\\’t sleep more than two hours. I was thinking he might staying up and getting all delirious or that he did it on purpose to humiliate me. Still no excuse for not calling for days right after our sex date.

    I found this site started reading yesterday at 11 am; it is now 12 am and in the mean time: I went on a date with a cute and fun gentleman and when I got home guess who was calling? the Pisces fart. So no call from Sunday until Thursday- BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND

    I listened to his message- he was very casual like nothing happened \\\”hi honey I wanted to hear you voice; call me on my cell\\\”. No explanation why he didn\\\’t call.

    You know what this Scorpio wants to do? Let him call a couple more times, and then call him back, no explanations here either and no questions, like nothing happened and I didn\\\’t notice anything- and then meet him and tease him, make him drool and beg for sex and never give him anything but smiles; be super sweet and amorous and tease his cock until he goes nuts and just smile staring in his eyes. I know you what you are like little wussy Pisces, so now I have the power. I\\\’ll make you my slave you wimpy ass, just watch. Wanna play games? You got the wrong person to f… with. You don\\\’t want me to hurt you? I\\\’ll put my dagger in your heart and twist slowly while I watch you squirm in pain- the pleasure will be all mine, you bastard!

    For all you girls suffering, these idiots are not worth the energy- do not call, text, try to get in touch or anything ( do not have sex no matter how good), IGNORE the bastards, get the power back to yourselves!!! Come here and share your pain and do NOT take them back!!! This sign is the most disgusting for a man, Pisces are wimps in their personal life, they are more like a woman than a man- whiny, shy, scared, weak. UGH!

  648. THE SCORPIO REVENGE

    On August 6, 2010 at 1:12 am


    So glad I found this site and so funny how astrology is so accurate! I have never dated a Pisces before the old fart I just started dating 2 months ago; he is 19 yrs older than myself and a very successful businessman (rare for a Pisces to be good at business); he is flashing his black amex when we go out, he took me to his 10000 square foot house to show it to me, and basically he is trying to bait me with bs,. He never gave me a gift yet, he takes me to not too expensive restaurants and he bought me a dozen red roses once. It is true he travels a lot so we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t spent time together too much, but he seems cheap to me. He should be kissing my ass and thank to God he has me. Instead…

    Last Saturday I spent the night at his house after a dinner and concert date. It was fun, he is a great lover- Viagra maybe?. In the morning I left before he got up (I hate to linger) and later I text him saying I had an amazing time. I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t hear from him that day (Sunday) – usually if a man doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t call the next day after we were intimate I know he is a jerk- and on Monday morning I see he text-ed me at 2 am saying he can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t sleep thinking of me and the time we spent together but that he is afraid I am tougher than he is and he will get hurt in the end. I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t understand (of course!) what he meant, that he wanted to break up or what, so I answered saying that he is being negative, that I know his heart is in the right place and that I am not worried, what will be will be. I thought he will call or text me later that day- Monday- but I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t hear from him. I had the feeling he wanted to break up but I said let me wait one more day. Tuesday came and went and he didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t contacted me again so I knew we are done. In the first month of dating he used to call me at least every other day, even when he was across the world form a different time zone, and now that he was home he didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t. I felt humiliated and hurt. How could he behave like a jerk when he used to be so nice and attentive before we had sex? I am too old to put up with this crap, men his age don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t play games anymore – obviously the rule doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t apply for Pisces; they remain immature for ever. I have NEVER slept with a guy who didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t call me right after, who dared to ignore me like that. I am smart and selective and I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t put out unless I feel I have his heart.

    I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t understand WTF was wrong the the guy, did he die or something? He told me that before the date he was so excited he didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t sleep more than two hours. I was thinking he might staying up and getting all delirious or that he did it on purpose to humiliate me. Still no excuse for not calling for days right after our sex date.

    I found this site started reading yesterday at 11 am; it is now 12 am and in the mean time: I went on a date with a cute and fun gentleman and when I got home guess who was calling? the Pisces fart. So no call from Sunday until Thursday- BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND

    I listened to his message- he was very casual like nothing happened \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”hi honey I wanted to hear you voice; call me on my cell\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\”. No explanation why he didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t call.

    You know what this Scorpio wants to do? Let him call a couple more times, and then call him back, no explanations here either and no questions, like nothing happened and I didn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t notice anything- and then meet him and tease him, make him drool and beg for sex and never give him anything but smiles; be super sweet and amorous and tease his cock until he goes nuts and just smile staring in his eyes. I know you what you are like little wussy Pisces, so now I have the power. I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll make you my slave you wimpy ass, just watch. Wanna play games? You got the wrong person to f… with. You don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’t want me to hurt you? I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\’ll put my dagger in your heart and twist slowly while I watch you squirm in pain- the pleasure will be all mine, you bastard!

    For all you girls suffering, these idiots are not worth the energy- do not call, text, try to get in touch or anything ( do not have sex no matter how good), IGNORE the bastards, get the power back to yourselves!!! Come here and share your pain and do NOT take them back!!! This sign is the most disgusting for a man, Pisces are wimps in their personal life, they are more like a woman than a man- whiny, shy, scared, weak. UGH!

  649. lanalana

    On August 6, 2010 at 9:13 am


    Can anyone advise me? I am the SAG, I met a man fish on the Internet. We first wrote about just obligated to do so and I must admit this writing was amazing. I wanted l to see the man who can write so beautifully. I started to slightly push for a meeting about three weeks .His response wass that the time will come when we will meet. I could not be deterred and I insist on my own. one day he wrote on the skype that he still is not ready for serious relationship and that he does not want to hurt someone who does not deserve and who is expecting more from it. ( he was 4 months broken up his relationship … it lasted 10 years….. she broke with him…why I do not know yet .. (Whereas tried to find out why, the answer I did not receive)…..I wrote him that my relationship lasted 10 years…… that I would only friend with whom I go for a beer just to chat … that the SAG is not easily to obtain .. and if SAG something takes seriously it will take a long time …. honestly, I did not await a response on his part…but for 4 days he appeared to skype…. and so far we are writing and write about everything … We are in touch 12 hours … from 9 am to 5 AM the next day (of course with a pause for a job). it’s unbelievable …. dream together, touching together, laugh together, we assume a job
    We finally met a month ago … some coffee, it took about three hours … we came home and go to Skype … we said our impressions of the dating …. The next day we saw about half an hour …. and then three weeks, I waited for the next date ….. but he has already suggested that we should meet, but always had to do something else … but week ago we dated it, it was the 3 date :-) ))… sometimes he disapper for two days …. then I do not know what is happening and I am desperate … then he comes on Skype as if nothing happened … . I was even surprised when he was on vacation with friends and we txt at least 5 per day ….he surprised me gave me a gift from his holiday, so little fish …. what I got laid ….. and after our the third date I went on Skype but he was not there … so I fell asleep, saying to m ehe does not like me … and to my surprise … . morning on skype 3 news – as you arrived home?, and if it was so bad that date? and that the next time he would not speak so much that you will talk about yourself …………. and that he did not want to go away from me, but it does not show it fairl……, and even I got txt, he hoped that the contact will not lose …. so writed on Skype that I thought I am bored him and so on. And I added that we can meet more in reality (if he wants) to learn about us .. no reaction on his part … The next two days, we again wrote from morning till night then …. two days he was not on the Skype…on Tuesday to hear from Skype that he has broken phone … what he will do for two next days … that the father will be in hospital …. and that on Wednesday he will be on Skype. .. and how I feel, what I am doing …. today is Friday and no reply was received….. yesterday, I wrote him txt, how is father feels and no response on his part …. I do not know wha