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General Stanley Mcchrystal and Afghanistan

We can learn a lot from reading books and in that respect, military leaders are no different than the rest of the population. Former General Stanley McChrystal was a reader of the history of wars. He was advised by the author, Stanley Karnow that the main thing he learned about the Vietnam war was, "that we should never have been there in the first place." We don’t know how McChrystal would have led the war in Afghanistan. When he began to think he was above the President, he was past history. Now we will see what course the next commander takes, and what history will have to say about him.

General Stanley McChrystal and Afghanistan

A year and a half ago, after reading, “Vietnam: A History,” written by author Stanley Karnow. General Stanley McChrystal commander of U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan asked a question of the author. It was a simple question. “Is there anything we learned in Vietnam that we can apply to Afghanistan? The answer was just as simple. “The main thing I learned was that we should never have been there in the first place.” Another book that McChrystal  read by author Lewis Sorley, “A Better War,” argued that the United States could have won in Vietnam if the U.S. congress hadn’t cut off military aid to South Vietnam.

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Sorley’s book got a lot of attention at the Pentagon and McChrystal’s headquarters. Sorley argues though not in so many words, that the military was stabbed in the back by its civilian leaders. NewsWeek contacted General McChrystal for his opinion of Sorley’s argument but he had no comment.

President Obama had been reading some books, too. One that attracted his attention was, “Lessons in Disaster,” by Gordon Goldstein, explaining how President Kennedy and Johnson were not well informed on Vietnam. The book inferred that the war was an unwinnable war. There are always, “what ifs” but historians have suggested there were moments when winning the Vietnam war was possible.

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In 1965 it was said that if Johnson had moved aggressively into Vietnam and cut off enemy supplies, the North Vietnam might have conceded. The second inicident was five years later when the military was having some success. Would more resources and heavier fighting have resulted in South Vietnam remaining independent? Some historians say yes, some say no, but we can’t know either way.

Armies learn slowly. In 1942 and 1943 armed forces fought badly in Africa. They did better in 1944-45 in France and Germany. In Iraq and Afghanistan, American forces have also been slow learners. But in Iraq under the supervision of General David Petraeus, U.S. forces began to focus on protecting citizens while targeting Jihadist leaders. That gave the Iraqi government some space to negotiate with Sunni enemies to establish a kind of peace.

Now we will see what comes next in Afghanistan since McChrystal forgot that he is not above the President and has handed in his resignation. Will Obama take the middle ground and try to compromise, or will he decide that the leadership is too corrupt and that they will forever regard the U.S. forces as alien occupiers? Will Americans tolerate a war that will only grow more expensive in dollars and lives? Only time will tell, and the historians who write the stories that follow.

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  1. edwardjoy

    On June 28, 2010 at 4:20 am


    nice one…

  2. Idlepen

    On June 28, 2010 at 4:27 am


    Very good to read. Highly informative. I am getting rich Ruby. Thanks a lot.

  3. petercurtis97

    On June 28, 2010 at 4:58 am


    A good read on Vietnam and the plight of Presidents and action/inaction. When forces pulled out of south Vietnam
    it spelled the end.

  4. Atanacio

    On June 28, 2010 at 9:51 am


    another very well written entry Ruby– I think many of the younger writers here should read your articles so they can learn how strong entries should be done :)

  5. Snooky

    On June 28, 2010 at 9:51 am


    War spell it backwards is raw=
    a raw deal no matter how you look at it.

  6. flowerrose

    On June 28, 2010 at 9:52 am


    Very informative post. Vietnam is a country that it’s influence is very cruel….dioxin.
    Cheer

  7. Jimmy Shilaho

    On June 28, 2010 at 10:41 am


    A great entry my friend. American citizens need to say enough is enough.

  8. Buma

    On June 28, 2010 at 5:52 pm


    hi ruby, im back on triond, and i heard about this on the news, and you’re right i think that he needs to remember that he’s not higher than the president.

  9. Jamie Myles

    On June 28, 2010 at 6:23 pm


    Interesting article.

  10. Paul Roberts

    On June 28, 2010 at 9:05 pm


    Every extended war has had its general casaulty. When leaders have their boots on the ground, it is hard not to voice an opinion against those who have never served a day in them. It is a poor judgement call to say the least, getting your opinion printed for all to read. I wonder how many people Obama could fire for voicing their opinion on his absence on Memorial Day at the Tomb of the Unknown. Poor judgement?

  11. rajaryanme

    On June 29, 2010 at 7:58 am


    Very well explained article

  12. chitragopi

    On June 29, 2010 at 12:09 pm


    Great information and read. Thanks.

  13. ellenhart

    On June 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm


    I think this was a wonderful write lovely job my friend. fyi i just posted new poetry if u wana check it out. keep up the good work

  14. Tulan

    On June 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm


    I think Obama made a good choice.

  15. yes me

    On June 30, 2010 at 9:43 am


    I think it is Time to come home already…. cheers

  16. EricPinola

    On June 30, 2010 at 4:26 pm


    McChrystal did change the engagement rules so that we could not just bomb everyone over there, right? He believed that we needed more troops on the ground so that civilians would not be killed so frequently.

    I like both generals. Petraeus does support McChrystals strategy as well to some extent, but he is already reversing those rules so that we can bomb the hell out of anyone there again.

    I think the general will do the best job possible; it is a war, and there is no happy ending to wars.

    Eric Pinola

  17. PR Mace

    On July 1, 2010 at 4:26 pm


    Well done, Ruby. I was a child at this time but I think no war really has a happy ending.

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