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Terrorists and Freedom Fighters

by Greyian Storm in Politics, December 8, 2007

With the battle in Iraq still going on, who are the terrorists, and who are the ones fighting for democracy and freedom?

Imagine, if you will, that your country was under attack. What would you do to set it right? I know that I’d do whatever it takes to drive out those who were invading or occupying my country. During the English occupation of Ireland, especially during the first 2 decades of the 20th century, battles and conflicts between Irish nationals and British troops were common. Who were referred to as terrorists? It was the Irish fighters.

They were the people fighting for freedom and democracy, they were trying to drive out the occupying forces, to restore the natural order of things. They were doing the right thing, and they were getting punished for it. They were regarded as terrorists, when the people responsible for all the terror and oppression were the British.

Now, a more modern example. In 2003, American forces invaded Iraq. The people in Iraq who tried to respond to the invading forces and fight back were referred to as terrorists.

So, it’s ok for the American troops to go into another country and kill thousands of people. But if the people of that country try to fight back, try to put things the way they should be, they’re terrorists. That just doesn’t seem right. And the reason for that is because the Americans are getting to define who are the terrorists.
If they dropped a nuke on Iraq, they’d call the Iraqi citizens terrorists because they caused their own deaths by not running
away.

The fact is, that the Americans are getting to do whatever the hell they want. If China was to invade America, and America citizens started suicide bombing the Chinese forces, who would the terrorists be? The Chinese of course, because the Americans are always right, they are never the guilty party.

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  1. Elisha Morris

    On December 31, 2007 at 1:25 am


    Well of course I didnt like it. But then according to Grevian Storm I am an american so I am always right. Never mind that we were attacked by these people first. And the Iraqi people appreciate our help which no ones hears about. The mainline media only report the the horrible things. We are supposed to let these people destroy us and our country? We have not destroyed Iraq. The extremists have. The normal society could not live with what they had before we came to their aide.

  2. Greyian Storm

    On April 22, 2008 at 5:31 am


    Sorry it’s taken so long to reply to this, but you obviously don’t know the smallest bit about this war. When did the Iraqis attack you? They didn’t! First off, anyone remember the first Gulf War, America attacked first. Secondly, America didn’t start this new war because they were “attacked”, it was because Saddam had “weapons of mass destruction”, which was all a big lie made up because Bush and his administration wanted some action (otherwise known as cheap oil). The Iraqi people appreciate your help? Eh…no. Sure, Saddam wasn’t exactly the greatest leader, but he was actually a lot more liberal than most people realise. When Saddam was in charge, women led normal lives (like we do in the West). Now, they’re not allowed have jobs, they can’t go out with “supervision” (which is a man, who is considered their owner), they have to wear a burkha at all times in public. That’s hardly free. But then again, America’s definition of freedom is whether or not McDonald’s are allowed open in that country.
    When did “these people” ever destroy you and your country. They didn’t, that’s the answer. Seriously, asking stupid rhetorical questions just makes an argument weaker. The extremists only started bombing in Iraq after it had been attacked by America, who haven’t exactly been honourable. Heard of the story of injured Americans in a mosque (completely helpless), who were treated for injuries by Iraqi militants. Then when American reinforcements arrived, they shot the unarmed militants mercilessly. You probably haven’t heard that, because that would make the war look bad in America (which Bush can not afford to let happen). I think all of this disproves your final conclusion “The normal society could not live with what they had before we came to their aide”, as you’ve hardly come to their aide, you’ve made their lives infinitely worse.

  3. PFC Brooks Anthony US ARMY

    On May 23, 2008 at 9:48 am


    I won’t say that your wrong Greyian Storm because your very right in many ways. Except for one extremist have always been killing in Iraq because since the Iran-Iraq war sunni’s and shia’s completely hate each other. Now as far as who started this war yes Bush did but so did Saddam. In the real truth of the matter Saddam told our government in a blunt and direct statement “that if you thing I have WMD’s then stop me from using them on you”. And he finished by saying for Americans negotiations are by words alone but for him they come with death. That is why we went full force into Iraq and declared falsely that Afghan was a success. But being since we have the powerhouse military that we have hitting Iraq was easy. I personally in my tour to Iraq will say that the national are a completely mixed batch some love that we are taking the terrorists and extremist out and others hate that we are even there. But soldiers are people just like you guys only difference is our job and trainings. We have those soldiers like me that do good and we have those that do bad.

  4. V (Retired Military)

    On January 10, 2009 at 4:14 pm


    Well, I only read the first 3 so far. Maybe Greyian Storm redeems humself later and maybe not. However, if you want to be technical, Iraq attacked the U.S. first in 1987 with the U.S.S. Stark attack. That’s all that needs to be said there. Plus post #3 by the PFC of what Saddam stated to the U.S. government is a challenge by him. He did not learn after the first gulf war. He wanted another one IMO and was hoping the rest of the countries there would have been on the lines with him. Now I guess it is time to read posts #4 and later and see what others say. Who knows, maybe I will post a few more times by the time I get to the end.

  5. V

    On January 10, 2009 at 4:15 pm


    Wow, only 3 posts here before mine. Guess I should have looked at the # of posts and not assume there were many more since the last post I saw was May 23, 2008. LOL

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