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Integration and Separation of Church and State

The role of the church in society has gone through significant changes over the last two thousand years. In past times, the church was the center of the community. In fact, while the west was being won in North America, one could predict the nature of a town by what was built first: the church or the saloon.

The Separation of Church and State: Reformation (early 16th Century) – Present

By the sixteenth century, the church was in desperate need of reform. There had been small, local attempts to restore the church to the virtue and integrity of the first century Christians. One of the reasons for the success of the Reformation at this time was the invention of the printing press. This enabled reformers like John Wyclif and Martin Luther to distribute their English and German translations of Scriptures to the common man, and the heresies and corruption introduced by the Catholic Church were exposed.

The Reformation ushered in the age of division between the Roman Catholic Church and various denominations of Protestant churches. In England, this division was solidified in the1530’s when King Henry VIII, angered by the Catholic Church’s refusal to annul his marriage with his wife Catherine of Aragon, decided to break with the Church and set himself as ruler of the new Church of England. This act resulted in ending the separation that had existed between The Roman Catholic Church and the State in England.

In the United States, the separation between church and state was clarified by Thomas Jefferson in a letter written to a group identifying themselves as the Danbury Baptists. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson wrote:
“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.” (Thomas Jefferson, 1802)

I have noticed that many people define the separation between church and state as the elimination of all Christian influence in society. At the same time, people wonder why the church is not doing more to help the homeless and needy.

I am completely in favor of the separation of church and state. Christianity cannot be legislated. Faith must be freely chosen by the individual. On the other hand, I think that the current battle to remove all things Christian from the public eye has escalated to the ridiculous. I also think that many nonChristians are too easily offended. I read about a woman who saw a nativity scene in a store window and exclaimed “Will you look at that! Now the church is trying to get in on Christmas!”

 

 

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  1. rutherfranc

    On March 28, 2009 at 10:58 am


    very informative.. most of us doesn`t know what was going on behind the affairs between church and government and how it turned out and became this way today.. thanks for sharing

  2. Betty Carew

    On March 28, 2009 at 1:33 pm


    Very interesting article nice read Karen

  3. Jimmy Shilaho

    On March 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm


    A well researched article. Great, keep it up Karen!

  4. clay hurtubise

    On March 28, 2009 at 4:16 pm


    lo, “Will you look at that! Now the church is trying to get in on Christmas!”. Good article, though open to debate. As no one knows for sure what happened 2000 years ago it is interesting to see peoples interpretations.
    Some scholars believe that Judas and Christ were friends, and that Christ told Judas to turn Christ in: then Judas was distraught and killed himself. Who knows for sure?
    Christianity isn’t being picked on, it is that separation of church and state affects all religions.
    Your brave to bring up religion or politics on Triond!:)
    Good piece.
    Thanks,
    Clay
    .

  5. Lee Altman

    On March 28, 2009 at 4:34 pm


    great article

  6. Inna Tysoe

    On March 28, 2009 at 5:20 pm


    Well written.

    Inna

  7. Catelin Hoover

    On March 28, 2009 at 5:20 pm


    KAren
    You did a great job on this one, giving us a bird’s eye view of the history of Christianity from the first decade. A remarkable job.
    As for the comment Clay made, apparently he isn’t well read in the scriptures or else doesn’t believe what is written…pity, as it is our only truth.

  8. PR Mace

    On March 28, 2009 at 6:48 pm


    Informative well researched, well written piece.

  9. Karen Gross

    On March 28, 2009 at 10:03 pm


    Thanks for all of your comments. I guess it was a bit gutsy to bring up both religion and politics on a Triond piece. I just write what I know, and I try to get the research right.
    I need to submit another fix – did anyone notice that I got the wrong King Henry the first time? It was Henry VIII – those Roman numerals get me every time. Also, Henry’s split with Rome was the cause of the separation of church and state, not the ending of it. Although technically it was the beginning of the integration of the Anglican church with the English state – sorry, it’s late and I am confusing myself… anyway – thanks for the encouragement!

  10. Jeffrey B. Merrow

    On April 1, 2009 at 2:37 pm


    wow yoo are awsome your great at getting the view to the reader and your thought direction is on the topic delivering it with precision great stuff

  11. Brian Daniel Stankich

    On April 30, 2009 at 11:30 pm


    Karen, thanks for sharing this well written history with the public. I too believe in the separation, but not expulsion. Why is it okay to persecute Christians? Brian

  12. Pete Macinta

    On May 6, 2009 at 9:40 pm


    Exactly why my church is not 501 c 3.

    Clay writes…
    As no one knows for sure what happened 2000 years ago it is interesting to see peoples interpretations.
    Some scholars believe that Judas and Christ were friends, and that Christ told Judas to turn Christ in: then Judas was distraught and killed himself. Who knows for sure?

    Hi Clay! Aye, but we do know for sure. Whatever is recorded in the NT most certainly did happen.

  13. jamie mullen

    On May 26, 2009 at 6:21 pm


    I think it’s a bit rich to call non-christians easily offended.

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