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		<title>By: Slave</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/sociology/minimum-wage-vs-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-425019</link>
		<dc:creator>Slave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slavery is but the owning of labour and carries with it the care of the labourers, while the European plan... is that capital shall control labour by controlling wages. This can be done, by controlling the money. It will not do to allow the Greenback... as we cannot control that.
The Hazard Circular
July, 1862</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slavery is but the owning of labour and carries with it the care of the labourers, while the European plan&#8230; is that capital shall control labour by controlling wages. This can be done, by controlling the money. It will not do to allow the Greenback&#8230; as we cannot control that.<br />
The Hazard Circular<br />
July, 1862</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are obviously some one who had many opportunity. But in the real world when bills are to be paid and debt are to be payed off, Minimum wage is a blessing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are obviously some one who had many opportunity. But in the real world when bills are to be paid and debt are to be payed off, Minimum wage is a blessing!</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/sociology/minimum-wage-vs-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-261164</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve worked and lived and payed rent on minimum wage.. I think this kind of article is written by someone who hasn&#039;t - telling me I would be better off as a slave!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked and lived and payed rent on minimum wage.. I think this kind of article is written by someone who hasn&#8217;t &#8211; telling me I would be better off as a slave!</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
		<link>http://socyberty.com/sociology/minimum-wage-vs-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-231837</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> freedom is priceless .
 and you considered yourself educated ,sir ?

and when you say in the article 

&quot;to pay an employee $5.15 hour and then be done with  it is a bargain for any employer &quot;. 

well ,obviously youve never employed anyone . 
if you had ,  you would  surely  know otherwise .
i had a girl who worked for me at 8  an hour.
competent sweet young girl but  lazy , snail like , tardy , un focused .  
she asked for a raise ,  i said if to her  
if i could pay you  BASED  on your productivity i would give you 4 dollars an hour&quot; . 
 (and lower my customers prices a bit to keep a competitive  edge in the market place  )
i said this ;
 8 dollars = 320 week or1280 month.
i also told her i could buy a new bmw with that sme money if she dont start movin her ass like her ganja stash  was on fire . 
she got the picture .
a new car would do more for me than shes been doing , alot more .
hours add up fast and never stop ticking away .
productivity is the key word  not money .
productivity an old school word and you dont hear it often , not in america .
if you produce , for real , no bs  and make your team win consistently you will always be valued and rewarded . after all youre a good keep . 
most should  be grateful for the minimum wage .  (im not . i think its a nipple to suck on )
for many well fed sloths young and old  would be paid  far less and soon   cease to exist , or adapt and survive .  
in my glimpse , i would say this country is counter productive as a whole and its coming to a head 
 its called real competition in a real jungle.
employers have no guaranteed minimum income, no guaranteed biz . if it rains , it rains . and the baby gotta eat .

all they have is a 40-60 hr wk and a need  to survive , too. 
 no guarantees . except headaches , pilferers , taxes and  min wage laws of course. 







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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freedom is priceless .<br />
 and you considered yourself educated ,sir ?</p>
<p>and when you say in the article </p>
<p>&#8220;to pay an employee $5.15 hour and then be done with  it is a bargain for any employer &#8220;. </p>
<p>well ,obviously youve never employed anyone .<br />
if you had ,  you would  surely  know otherwise .<br />
i had a girl who worked for me at 8  an hour.<br />
competent sweet young girl but  lazy , snail like , tardy , un focused .<br />
she asked for a raise ,  i said if to her<br />
if i could pay you  BASED  on your productivity i would give you 4 dollars an hour&#8221; .<br />
 (and lower my customers prices a bit to keep a competitive  edge in the market place  )<br />
i said this ;<br />
 8 dollars = 320 week or1280 month.<br />
i also told her i could buy a new bmw with that sme money if she dont start movin her ass like her ganja stash  was on fire .<br />
she got the picture .<br />
a new car would do more for me than shes been doing , alot more .<br />
hours add up fast and never stop ticking away .<br />
productivity is the key word  not money .<br />
productivity an old school word and you dont hear it often , not in america .<br />
if you produce , for real , no bs  and make your team win consistently you will always be valued and rewarded . after all youre a good keep .<br />
most should  be grateful for the minimum wage .  (im not . i think its a nipple to suck on )<br />
for many well fed sloths young and old  would be paid  far less and soon   cease to exist , or adapt and survive .<br />
in my glimpse , i would say this country is counter productive as a whole and its coming to a head<br />
 its called real competition in a real jungle.<br />
employers have no guaranteed minimum income, no guaranteed biz . if it rains , it rains . and the baby gotta eat .</p>
<p>all they have is a 40-60 hr wk and a need  to survive , too.<br />
 no guarantees . except headaches , pilferers , taxes and  min wage laws of course.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has more than a ring of truth to it.  In reality, it cost more to upkeep a slave than it does a modern wage earner.  One specific example is James Madison, who spent far more to house, clothe, feed, etc. his slaves than modern corporation spend on their wage workers.  It is hard to make a comparison with modern society, but I&#039;m sure if there were TVs and other entertainment in the 18th and 19th century, slave owners would have given them to their slaves to distract them from the hell they were living in.  We really haven&#039;t come very far since then.

Also, there were several arguments made in the South in favor of slavery, citing the fact that the industrial North treated their workers like total garbage due to the fact that they could just go out and find another.  Slaves, on the other hand, were the owner&#039;s property, which gave them incentive to actually take care of them.  It&#039;s a twisted argument, but at the time, slaves were often better taken care of than wage earners.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has more than a ring of truth to it.  In reality, it cost more to upkeep a slave than it does a modern wage earner.  One specific example is James Madison, who spent far more to house, clothe, feed, etc. his slaves than modern corporation spend on their wage workers.  It is hard to make a comparison with modern society, but I&#8217;m sure if there were TVs and other entertainment in the 18th and 19th century, slave owners would have given them to their slaves to distract them from the hell they were living in.  We really haven&#8217;t come very far since then.</p>
<p>Also, there were several arguments made in the South in favor of slavery, citing the fact that the industrial North treated their workers like total garbage due to the fact that they could just go out and find another.  Slaves, on the other hand, were the owner&#8217;s property, which gave them incentive to actually take care of them.  It&#8217;s a twisted argument, but at the time, slaves were often better taken care of than wage earners.</p>
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		<title>By: richard souza</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a group of proffesors that sounded so depressing and bleak.Finally one day I asked why do you keep painting such a sad picture of things?The answer was simple&quot;Because we want you to go out and change the way things are&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
In economics we were taught that an I deal wage povided food shelter and an allowance to perpetute the race.&lt;br /&gt;
We were also taught that that the slaves were set free because the industrialization of america was being finaced by the North as a relative new venture.&lt;br /&gt;
The south already entrenched with slaves and plantations were not happy just producing cotton they were pplanning to takeover the textile industrys and already had the land,labor,and capital.&lt;br /&gt;
Since Northern investors,could not quickly build factorys,buy slaves and build housing it became neccasry to liberate the southerners from their work force and plantations.&lt;br /&gt;
The basic principle of slave Vs. employee is a slave needs food shelter clothing medical tools housing and the perpetution of his race.Evidently a free worker in America needs a smaller portion of these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a group of proffesors that sounded so depressing and bleak.Finally one day I asked why do you keep painting such a sad picture of things?The answer was simple&#8221;Because we want you to go out and change the way things are&#8221;<br />
In economics we were taught that an I deal wage povided food shelter and an allowance to perpetute the race.<br />
We were also taught that that the slaves were set free because the industrialization of america was being finaced by the North as a relative new venture.<br />
The south already entrenched with slaves and plantations were not happy just producing cotton they were pplanning to takeover the textile industrys and already had the land,labor,and capital.<br />
Since Northern investors,could not quickly build factorys,buy slaves and build housing it became neccasry to liberate the southerners from their work force and plantations.<br />
The basic principle of slave Vs. employee is a slave needs food shelter clothing medical tools housing and the perpetution of his race.Evidently a free worker in America needs a smaller portion of these things.</p>
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		<title>By: societysfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>societysfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post,  now for the record, sensible people such as myself can read this and understand perfectly well how true so much of this is.  We understand it because we live it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then there are the &quot;others&quot; that see the word slavery, and have to go balls to the walls literal with the analogy.  These are what i call &quot;stupid people&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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But yes, the truth is, paying people these horrible wages, for all these years, is only good for one group of people. the rich.&lt;br /&gt;
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the way I see it, if you cant afford to pay your workers a good wage, you should just do that job your self.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I couldnt tell you how many cheap ass employers ive worked for, that have never worked a day in their lives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I wish Americans would grow some backbone and stand up and do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post,  now for the record, sensible people such as myself can read this and understand perfectly well how true so much of this is.  We understand it because we live it.</p>
<p>Then there are the &#8220;others&#8221; that see the word slavery, and have to go balls to the walls literal with the analogy.  These are what i call &#8220;stupid people&#8221;.</p>
<p>But yes, the truth is, paying people these horrible wages, for all these years, is only good for one group of people. the rich.</p>
<p>the way I see it, if you cant afford to pay your workers a good wage, you should just do that job your self.</p>
<p>I couldnt tell you how many cheap ass employers ive worked for, that have never worked a day in their lives.</p>
<p>I wish Americans would grow some backbone and stand up and do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Line</title>
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		<dc:creator>Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac,  theoretically this may be &quot;the land of opportunity&quot; but when &quot;some&quot; companies think they cannot go under and expect the government to keep them going, we are closer to communism than you think.  besides who can afford to live in a house on minimum wage?  Freedom to live under a bridge is better than living in a house that isn&#039;t yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac,  theoretically this may be &#8220;the land of opportunity&#8221; but when &#8220;some&#8221; companies think they cannot go under and expect the government to keep them going, we are closer to communism than you think.  besides who can afford to live in a house on minimum wage?  Freedom to live under a bridge is better than living in a house that isn&#8217;t yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they never paid you for being a slave. Besides, this is the land of opportunity, not the land of &quot;hey, let&#039;s be communists and have everyone receive the same amount of money&quot;. And I am pretty sure any slave would prefer FREEDOM than living in house that isn&#039;t their own where they are told what to do, and HAVE to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they never paid you for being a slave. Besides, this is the land of opportunity, not the land of &#8220;hey, let&#8217;s be communists and have everyone receive the same amount of money&#8221;. And I am pretty sure any slave would prefer FREEDOM than living in house that isn&#8217;t their own where they are told what to do, and HAVE to do it.</p>
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