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Baby Bats to Eldergoths: A Guide to 21st Century Goth Culture

A guide to the subgroups that make up the Goth subculture today.

Corp Goths

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This style started off as a way for Goths to tone down their look enough to be acceptable in the workplace but not lose their style. Some consider this a genre in its own right with Goths from the Cyber and fetish scene adopting the style in clubs, but others will adopt a Corp Goth style during the week and “Goth up” at weekends. Corp Goth style usually includes well-tailored or vintage suits, brocades, pin-stripe details and the odd bat, coffin or skull sneaked in for good measure. Though there isn’t really a music genre attached to the style, some gothic musicians have toyed with the look, from post-punk revival band Interpol with their smart shirts, to darkwave stars the Crüxshadows appearing onstage in bespoke suits, even Marylin Manson has made the Goth-in-a-suit look popular. The look is very popular and can be found almost everywhere, a colleague of my father’s even used to come to work in a PVC pinstripe suit!

Vampire Goths

You’ll come across one or two of these in every Goth club, Goths who will tell you over and over again that they really are vampires, no honestly they are, really! Though the connection between vampires and Goths has been there since the beginning, Bauhaus’ first single was called “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” after all, these guys take it to the extreme. Styling their appearance as closely as possible to something from Anne Rice’s novels or Hammer Horror movies, Vampire Goths will even wear fake fangs when out on the town. Since most Goth bands have released at least one vampire-related song, Vampire Goths have the pick of the pops, as it were. They can be great fun to be around, just so long as they don’t take it too seriously and make for your throat!

Historical Goths

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Some Goths choose to style themselves on specific periods rather than bands or movies, most commonly either Medieval or Victorian costumes. Some will go for historical accuracy and re-enactment, while others choose rather to evoke the mood of a period. Medieval Goths’ style can mix Tudor and Renaissance costuming, but most have a fixation with swords and mead! Victorian Goths prefer tea and parasols, many going for the most accurate look they can manage. Of course there’s a lot of cross-over with other Goth styles, but the main difference is that where others will pick and choose antique styles and combine them with other ideas, the Historical Goth tends to stick to one period only.

J-Goths

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J-Goth styles come from the Harajuku street fashions of Japan, where although gothic fashion abounds the music associated with it has more in common with glam, punk and pop, known as Visual Kei. One of the most popular J-Goth looks is the Gothic Lolita style, a look designed to make the wearer look as much as possible like a china doll, with elements of Lolita, Alice in Wonderland and French maids. Lolita fashion has struck a chord with westerners and many western Goths have started to combine the style with more traditional looks. Other J-Goth fashions, like the Elegant Gothic Aristocrat style, has more in common with the Victorian styles popular in the West.  

Steampunks

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Steampunk started off as a literary genre, an equivalent to cyberpunk but set during the golden age of steam-powered contraptions, usually combining science-fiction and fantasy elements. However the strong visuals of the genre soon grew into a subculture and although not all steampunks are Goths, there are many overlapping features, and steampunk-inspired outfits are becoming an increasingly common sight in clubs. Steampunk takes its cues from Victorian and Edwardian fashion, but unlike the dark colour-scheme favoured by most Goths, steampunks usually prefer brown and sepia tones, picked out with brass accessories. Cogs, bits of clocks, goggles and leather are common steam materials, with an emphasis on home made and DIY works. Steampunks are always impressive and tend to carry around accessories with endless possibilities for fun, someone arrived at the local Goth club last month carrying a home-made ray gun prop! Although there isn’t really any steampunk music as such, some bands flirt with steampunk styles, particularly Industrial group Abney Park, singer and violinist Emilie Autumn, and string Industrial group Rasputina.

Gothabilly

A fusion of psychobilly with gothic imagery, the Gothabilly’s tastes usually include psychobilly favourites like the Cramps and the Horrorpops as well as genre-specific bands like the Cult of the Psychic Fetus, Psychonauts and Nekromantix. In terms of fashion, Gothabillies choose 50s inspired outfits and tattoo art, weather-beaten hats and leather jackets, with women’s hairstyles with a heavy fringe (bangs, for the Americans out there) resembling Betty Paige. The style is very popular in the Californian Goth scene, but hasn’t really broken into British Goth as yet, so I confess it’s a little of a mystery to me.

Dark Cabaret

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Dark Cabaret has long been clawing at the edges of Goth, with inspirational artists like David Bowie and Klaus Nomi adding cabaret-influences to their work. When Goth took hold in the 80s, some gothic artists also toyed with the genre, most notably Andi Sexgang on his solo album Arco Valley and Siouxsie and the Banshees on their single “Peek-a-boo”. Recently it has become a genre in its own right, with artists like the Dresden Dolls, Voltaire and the Deadfly Ensemble combining gothic imagery, social commentary and a retro feel. In terms of fashion, dark cabaret enthusiasts can be seen sporting burlesque-style corsets, stockings and bustles along with bowler hats and heavy makeup, the key here to appear classy but sexy, a femme fatale look for the girls and a mime-like figure for guys.

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  1. denus

    On January 30, 2009 at 4:52 am


    know about these people, see them sometimes too, but you cant change what people want to look like.

  2. Majic

    On January 30, 2009 at 5:18 am


    You’re the real Gothic princess, neh! Cybergoths? This I have never seen before. What sayeth thee about “EMO” then? They tend to go towards that trend too.

  3. postpunkpixie

    On January 30, 2009 at 8:03 am


    Thanks for the comment, Majic! I love goths, they’re normally really lovely people, although you do get the occassion “gothier than thou” type. Emos I’m less keen on, they can be very self-obsessed and immature. Not ALL of them are, mind you, I’ve known some very sweet emo kids, but there’s a big difference between emos and goths in terms of their nature.

    denus, you sound as though you don’t like them? I think goth style is beautiful, personally.

  4. Joni Keith

    On January 30, 2009 at 9:48 am


    Emma, this is my favorite article ever. So informative, great attention to detail and absolutely the best photos. I have always had a fascination with the whole “Goth” thing but I’m just a generation past the movement. I think I would be a Perky Goth, maybe because of the beautiful pic you posted.

    Thanks to you, I have a much greater understanding and appreciation of Goth’s.

  5. spiritwalker

    On January 30, 2009 at 7:01 pm


    Yes!!! Love it! Thank you for this article. It helps me out alot!
    Not many people understand that there are so many colors of black.

  6. seashell66

    On January 30, 2009 at 8:18 pm


    Thank you. I feel like a know a little more now!

  7. Brian Daniel Stankich

    On January 31, 2009 at 1:17 am


    Emma, definitely informative, if not slightly bizarre. Your writing makes it happen. Brian

  8. Tabitha Hergest

    On January 31, 2009 at 2:46 pm


    An excellent exposition upon all things Gothique. Well, almost – Equal Rights for Eldergoths! And being as my own skull-topped cane isn’t quite as much for decoration now as it used to be, I think we should be told. But you young whippersnappers; eeeh, when I were your age etc., etc., etc…

  9. tnmcetnmce

    On February 5, 2009 at 4:34 pm


    great!

  10. Brenda Nelson

    On February 6, 2009 at 10:19 pm


    Cyber Goths are wannabe’s..

    I have seen a trend of massive piercings of pets being marketed to Goths and find this distressing, as this animal abuse is not something that is related to this culture group.

  11. Mark Gordon Brown

    On February 6, 2009 at 10:29 pm


    I got into Goth at the very begining, when it was stil a subgroup of Punk. I was in Flint Michigan at the time. Wonderful time. Michigan Goths were voted at one time the best dressed Goths in the USA, this is because Michigan got less sun than California, so of course our clothes were blacker!

  12. postpunkpixie

    On February 7, 2009 at 3:40 pm


    I’m not old enough to remember the very begining, but I like my trad goth. :) And I wouldn’t say cybers are wannabes, just different. I kinda like cybers, there’s a fair few of them around here.

    The pet piercing thing is horrible though. Most of the goths I know love animals and wouldn’t dream of hurting one like that.

  13. Lauren Axelrod

    On February 7, 2009 at 9:08 pm


    I never got into this scene, but I always found it fascinating. Cool piece!

  14. D. K.

    On April 17, 2009 at 1:44 pm


    Good article Emma, is very educational for the new gothic generations. Other groups in the escene are Horrorpunks,the gothic metals, terror surfers & ethereals.

    Thanks!!!

  15. Carlota

    On June 9, 2009 at 6:02 pm


    “Gothic metals” are not goths. They’re metalheads. Horror punks are not part of the goth scene, they’re part of the punk rock scene.

  16. postpunkpixie

    On June 9, 2009 at 9:04 pm


    Agreed, that’s why I didn’t include them in the article in the first place. Although technically their music has as much in common with “standard” goth as rivetheads, you’re way more likely to see a rivethead at a goth club than a goth metaller or a horrorpunk. Metal tends to only get played as goth cheese (with some exceptions), I’ve never heard a horror punk track played at a goth club. Heard one at a death rock club once though.

    Terror surfers I’ve never come across, though there is a lot of surf influence in early death rock so I guess I can see the connection. Ethereals I’d say are an offshoot of romantigoths.

    There are loads of other fringe genres I could’ve included, but I stuck to ones I’ve seen in the local scene. Thanks for all the views and comments though, people, keep ‘em coming! :)

  17. Freyja

    On June 25, 2009 at 10:12 am


    Whoever May Have Designed This Website, Must Have Read A Novel Called Goth Craft? I Love The Pictures. ^^’ Xxxx

  18. Lucretia

    On July 16, 2009 at 10:37 am


    Well…to be honest, ‘goth metallers’ should have a say.
    I dress like a Romantigoth and read all sorts of the stuff that is classed as ‘gothic’…yet *SHOCK HORROR* I listen to a range of metal, some classic and even a slight bit of industrial music. But do I listen to any sort of ‘goth’ music?
    No.

    Funny how everyone still thinks Im goth though isn’t it?

    I believe that these days there is no ‘goth’ sound. No goth I know on the scene up Birmingham or in my town listens to so called ‘goth’ music. (Bar my mom, even though she isn’t a goth shes a hippy.)

    Just a point for you to think on…

  19. postpunkpixie

    On July 16, 2009 at 10:57 am


    Lucretia (very oldschool goth name that) to be honest, whether you dress “goth” or not is irrelevant, it’s more to do with the lifestyle. Besides that, loads of goths listen to a wide range of music (I like old punk and industrial myself), quite a few don’t listen to what I think of as proper goth.

    Most “goth metallers” I would class as metalheads not goths, no matter how they dress, but that’s just my opinion. Outsiders may call them goths, but do goths call them goths? No. Wearing drapey sleeves does not a goth make. Is all metal “not goth”? No, quite a lot has clear gothic influences. But like I say, it’s down to personal opinion since goth as a subculture and a musical genre is so huge and diverse these days.

  20. Malificent

    On September 28, 2009 at 9:42 pm


    Very intriguing article. I found it most interesting. I was however curious to find out in your opinion if there has ever been a goth that has not fit into one or the other catergories. As I was reading, I was honestly trying to figure out what catergory I would fall into but its not that simple. I find myself relating to possibly even four of the different types of goth. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. I guess I am the gothic equivalent to a blizzard (yes as in Dairy Queen) only the choclate and candy have been replaced with various amounts of different types of goth subculture lol.

  21. postpunkpixie

    On January 27, 2010 at 10:54 am


    Malificent, (sorry for not replying) as I said in the intro, it’s just a guideline. Goth boils down to self-expression, no matter which “theme” you’re following. I’m fairly sure many people involved in the scene fit into more than one category (or none of them for that matter). For my part I flit between Trad, Deathrock, cabaret and Victoriana/Steampunk whenever the mood takes me.

    I wrote this article more for people outside the subculture to show how huge and varied the scene is, rather than as a pigeon-hole for those of us on the inside, but I’ve noticed I’m getting more views from insiders. That’s the problem with writing these sorts of aritcles online; you can never be sure what your audience will be.

  22. Azrael Blackthorn

    On February 3, 2010 at 11:37 am


    i really like this post, well done to the author, you really know what your talking about which is a rariety these days
    if people took the time to red your post, maybe people would understand the culture more.

    im most pleased with the fact that you state cybergoth, rivetheads, and marylin manson (and other mainstream) arent gothic, alot of people i know would thank you alot for that
    we’re not struck on the modern cyber take on things

    congrats again on the article

    X- Azrael -X

  23. SenoritaChe

    On March 19, 2010 at 10:44 pm


    Very lovely article. I like that you included photos. Getting ideas, as always!
    **sigh** I wish my area had a goth scene. Apparently one club used to have a monthly goth night, but they quit.
    There really is such a variety of things that are Goth in some form or another. I myself could classify as Hippie Goth most days, Trad Goth on others, always with a touch of RomantiGoth thrown in for good measure. And though I do listen to a lot of Trad Goth music, I also love most anything from classical to nerdcore hip hop.

  24. Jessica

    On June 6, 2010 at 6:40 am


    I’ve been gothic since I was 10 years of age, but i’m still known as a babybat to others. Since my mum doesn’t have much money for clothes, I have to be creative with finding gothic-esque clothing I find around in secondand shops and bootfairs. I know it sounds stupid, but when can I stop being called a baby bat? I’m 14 now, so i’ve been dressing gothic for four years. Thanks for help (:

  25. wolfyrocker

    On August 28, 2010 at 3:35 am


    As I have only been Gothic for a couple of years, I haven\\\’t had enough money ir time to aquire all the music and nice clothes necessary to stop being a babybat, really. However, as I already like some trad Gothic rock, punk rock, and deathrock, I will probably evolve into a trad goth or a deathrocker. I absolutely love the ripped fishnets, leather, and the big black teased hair. I have a hippy side and a perky side too though :)

  26. Dirgesinger

    On September 16, 2010 at 1:57 pm


    I am happy to see an article that is fair to goths. Being in the scene for more than ten years now, I find that it is not easier for the non-Goths to take us as we are – normal people who have just a little twist of darkness inside. Hopefully this article is helping.

  27. RMR1138

    On October 15, 2010 at 12:24 am


    Good job!
    Had I no prior knowledge it would be quite informative…pity that it seems most of your commentors(sp?), myself included, are part of the scene.

    It seems Cybers get a lot of flak..which concerns and confuses me…for a subculture partly based around a non-judgemental idiom, there seems to be a lot of judgementalism.
    I’ve not encountered it personally(which is a bit suprising given that I’m a Cyber/Hippie/Corpgoth m’self depending on what mood Im in…anyway, there’s my two cents!

    ~aspicio pro per obscurem, ego reperio levamentum~
    behold for within the shadows, I find comfort

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