Comments on: Baby Bats to Eldergoths: A Guide to 21st Century Goth Culture http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/ Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:35:12 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: RMR1138 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-367960 RMR1138 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 04:24:12 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-367960 Good job! Had I no prior knowledge it would be quite informative...pity that it seems most of your commentors(sp?), myself included, are part of the scene. It seems Cybers get a lot of flak..which concerns and confuses me...for a subculture partly based around a non-judgemental idiom, there seems to be a lot of judgementalism. I've not encountered it personally(which is a bit suprising given that I'm a Cyber/Hippie/Corpgoth m'self depending on what mood Im in...anyway, there's my two cents! ~aspicio pro per obscurem, ego reperio levamentum~ behold for within the shadows, I find comfort Good job!
Had I no prior knowledge it would be quite informative…pity that it seems most of your commentors(sp?), myself included, are part of the scene.

It seems Cybers get a lot of flak..which concerns and confuses me…for a subculture partly based around a non-judgemental idiom, there seems to be a lot of judgementalism.
I’ve not encountered it personally(which is a bit suprising given that I’m a Cyber/Hippie/Corpgoth m’self depending on what mood Im in…anyway, there’s my two cents!

~aspicio pro per obscurem, ego reperio levamentum~
behold for within the shadows, I find comfort

]]> By: Dirgesinger http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-345809 Dirgesinger Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:57:34 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-345809 I am happy to see an article that is fair to goths. Being in the scene for more than ten years now, I find that it is not easier for the non-Goths to take us as we are - normal people who have just a little twist of darkness inside. Hopefully this article is helping. I am happy to see an article that is fair to goths. Being in the scene for more than ten years now, I find that it is not easier for the non-Goths to take us as we are – normal people who have just a little twist of darkness inside. Hopefully this article is helping.

]]> By: wolfyrocker http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-333530 wolfyrocker Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:35:17 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-333530 As I have only been Gothic for a couple of years, I haven\\\'t had enough money ir time to aquire all the music and nice clothes necessary to stop being a babybat, really. However, as I already like some trad Gothic rock, punk rock, and deathrock, I will probably evolve into a trad goth or a deathrocker. I absolutely love the ripped fishnets, leather, and the big black teased hair. I have a hippy side and a perky side too though :) As I have only been Gothic for a couple of years, I haven\\\’t had enough money ir time to aquire all the music and nice clothes necessary to stop being a babybat, really. However, as I already like some trad Gothic rock, punk rock, and deathrock, I will probably evolve into a trad goth or a deathrocker. I absolutely love the ripped fishnets, leather, and the big black teased hair. I have a hippy side and a perky side too though :)

]]> By: Jessica http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-291964 Jessica Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:40:08 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-291964 I've been gothic since I was 10 years of age, but i'm still known as a babybat to others. Since my mum doesn't have much money for clothes, I have to be creative with finding gothic-esque clothing I find around in secondand shops and bootfairs. I know it sounds stupid, but when can I stop being called a baby bat? I'm 14 now, so i've been dressing gothic for four years. Thanks for help (: I’ve been gothic since I was 10 years of age, but i’m still known as a babybat to others. Since my mum doesn’t have much money for clothes, I have to be creative with finding gothic-esque clothing I find around in secondand shops and bootfairs. I know it sounds stupid, but when can I stop being called a baby bat? I’m 14 now, so i’ve been dressing gothic for four years. Thanks for help (:

]]> By: SenoritaChe http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-261146 SenoritaChe Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:44:12 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-261146 Very lovely article. I like that you included photos. Getting ideas, as always! **sigh** I wish my area had a goth scene. Apparently one club used to have a monthly goth night, but they quit. There really is such a variety of things that are Goth in some form or another. I myself could classify as Hippie Goth most days, Trad Goth on others, always with a touch of RomantiGoth thrown in for good measure. And though I do listen to a lot of Trad Goth music, I also love most anything from classical to nerdcore hip hop. Very lovely article. I like that you included photos. Getting ideas, as always!
**sigh** I wish my area had a goth scene. Apparently one club used to have a monthly goth night, but they quit.
There really is such a variety of things that are Goth in some form or another. I myself could classify as Hippie Goth most days, Trad Goth on others, always with a touch of RomantiGoth thrown in for good measure. And though I do listen to a lot of Trad Goth music, I also love most anything from classical to nerdcore hip hop.

]]> By: Azrael Blackthorn http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-235788 Azrael Blackthorn Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:37:36 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-235788 i really like this post, well done to the author, you really know what your talking about which is a rariety these days if people took the time to red your post, maybe people would understand the culture more. im most pleased with the fact that you state cybergoth, rivetheads, and marylin manson (and other mainstream) arent gothic, alot of people i know would thank you alot for that we're not struck on the modern cyber take on things congrats again on the article X- Azrael -X i really like this post, well done to the author, you really know what your talking about which is a rariety these days
if people took the time to red your post, maybe people would understand the culture more.

im most pleased with the fact that you state cybergoth, rivetheads, and marylin manson (and other mainstream) arent gothic, alot of people i know would thank you alot for that
we’re not struck on the modern cyber take on things

congrats again on the article

X- Azrael -X

]]> By: postpunkpixie http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-231477 postpunkpixie Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:54:47 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-231477 Malificent, (sorry for not replying) as I said in the intro, it's just a guideline. Goth boils down to self-expression, no matter which "theme" you're following. I'm fairly sure many people involved in the scene fit into more than one category (or none of them for that matter). For my part I flit between Trad, Deathrock, cabaret and Victoriana/Steampunk whenever the mood takes me. I wrote this article more for people outside the subculture to show how huge and varied the scene is, rather than as a pigeon-hole for those of us on the inside, but I've noticed I'm getting more views from insiders. That's the problem with writing these sorts of aritcles online; you can never be sure what your audience will be. Malificent, (sorry for not replying) as I said in the intro, it’s just a guideline. Goth boils down to self-expression, no matter which “theme” you’re following. I’m fairly sure many people involved in the scene fit into more than one category (or none of them for that matter). For my part I flit between Trad, Deathrock, cabaret and Victoriana/Steampunk whenever the mood takes me.

I wrote this article more for people outside the subculture to show how huge and varied the scene is, rather than as a pigeon-hole for those of us on the inside, but I’ve noticed I’m getting more views from insiders. That’s the problem with writing these sorts of aritcles online; you can never be sure what your audience will be.

]]> By: Malificent http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-165549 Malificent Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:42:01 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-165549 Very intriguing article. I found it most interesting. I was however curious to find out in your opinion if there has ever been a goth that has not fit into one or the other catergories. As I was reading, I was honestly trying to figure out what catergory I would fall into but its not that simple. I find myself relating to possibly even four of the different types of goth. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. I guess I am the gothic equivalent to a blizzard (yes as in Dairy Queen) only the choclate and candy have been replaced with various amounts of different types of goth subculture lol. Very intriguing article. I found it most interesting. I was however curious to find out in your opinion if there has ever been a goth that has not fit into one or the other catergories. As I was reading, I was honestly trying to figure out what catergory I would fall into but its not that simple. I find myself relating to possibly even four of the different types of goth. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. I guess I am the gothic equivalent to a blizzard (yes as in Dairy Queen) only the choclate and candy have been replaced with various amounts of different types of goth subculture lol.

]]> By: Emma C S http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103389 Emma C S Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:57:23 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103389 Lucretia (very oldschool goth name that) to be honest, whether you dress "goth" or not is irrelevant, it's more to do with the lifestyle. Besides that, loads of goths listen to a wide range of music (I like old punk and industrial myself), quite a few don't listen to what I think of as proper goth. <br /> <br /> Most "goth metallers" I would class as metalheads not goths, no matter how they dress, but that's just my opinion. Outsiders may call them goths, but do goths call them goths? No. Wearing drapey sleeves does not a goth make. Is all metal "not goth"? No, quite a lot has clear gothic influences. But like I say, it's down to personal opinion since goth as a subculture and a musical genre is so huge and diverse these days. Lucretia (very oldschool goth name that) to be honest, whether you dress “goth” or not is irrelevant, it’s more to do with the lifestyle. Besides that, loads of goths listen to a wide range of music (I like old punk and industrial myself), quite a few don’t listen to what I think of as proper goth.

Most “goth metallers” I would class as metalheads not goths, no matter how they dress, but that’s just my opinion. Outsiders may call them goths, but do goths call them goths? No. Wearing drapey sleeves does not a goth make. Is all metal “not goth”? No, quite a lot has clear gothic influences. But like I say, it’s down to personal opinion since goth as a subculture and a musical genre is so huge and diverse these days.

]]> By: Lucretia http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103385 Lucretia Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:37:57 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103385 Well...to be honest, 'goth metallers' should have a say.<br /> I dress like a Romantigoth and read all sorts of the stuff that is classed as 'gothic'...yet *SHOCK HORROR* I listen to a range of metal, some classic and even a slight bit of industrial music. But do I listen to any sort of 'goth' music?<br /> No.<br /> <br /> Funny how everyone still thinks Im goth though isn't it?<br /> <br /> I believe that these days there is no 'goth' sound. No goth I know on the scene up Birmingham or in my town listens to so called 'goth' music. (Bar my mom, even though she isn't a goth shes a hippy.)<br /> <br /> Just a point for you to think on...<br /> Well…to be honest, ‘goth metallers’ should have a say.
I dress like a Romantigoth and read all sorts of the stuff that is classed as ‘gothic’…yet *SHOCK HORROR* I listen to a range of metal, some classic and even a slight bit of industrial music. But do I listen to any sort of ‘goth’ music?
No.

Funny how everyone still thinks Im goth though isn’t it?

I believe that these days there is no ‘goth’ sound. No goth I know on the scene up Birmingham or in my town listens to so called ‘goth’ music. (Bar my mom, even though she isn’t a goth shes a hippy.)

Just a point for you to think on…

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