Comments on: Baby Bats to Eldergoths: A Guide to 21st Century Goth Culture http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/ Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:00:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Malificent http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-165549 Malificent Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:42:01 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-165549 Very intriguing article. I found it most interesting. I was however curious to find out in your opinion if there has ever been a goth that has not fit into one or the other catergories. As I was reading, I was honestly trying to figure out what catergory I would fall into but its not that simple. I find myself relating to possibly even four of the different types of goth. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. I guess I am the gothic equivalent to a blizzard (yes as in Dairy Queen) only the choclate and candy have been replaced with various amounts of different types of goth subculture lol. Very intriguing article. I found it most interesting. I was however curious to find out in your opinion if there has ever been a goth that has not fit into one or the other catergories. As I was reading, I was honestly trying to figure out what catergory I would fall into but its not that simple. I find myself relating to possibly even four of the different types of goth. Thinking about it makes my head hurt. I guess I am the gothic equivalent to a blizzard (yes as in Dairy Queen) only the choclate and candy have been replaced with various amounts of different types of goth subculture lol.

]]> By: Emma C S http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103389 Emma C S Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:57:23 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103389 Lucretia (very oldschool goth name that) to be honest, whether you dress "goth" or not is irrelevant, it's more to do with the lifestyle. Besides that, loads of goths listen to a wide range of music (I like old punk and industrial myself), quite a few don't listen to what I think of as proper goth. <br /> <br /> Most "goth metallers" I would class as metalheads not goths, no matter how they dress, but that's just my opinion. Outsiders may call them goths, but do goths call them goths? No. Wearing drapey sleeves does not a goth make. Is all metal "not goth"? No, quite a lot has clear gothic influences. But like I say, it's down to personal opinion since goth as a subculture and a musical genre is so huge and diverse these days. Lucretia (very oldschool goth name that) to be honest, whether you dress “goth” or not is irrelevant, it’s more to do with the lifestyle. Besides that, loads of goths listen to a wide range of music (I like old punk and industrial myself), quite a few don’t listen to what I think of as proper goth.

Most “goth metallers” I would class as metalheads not goths, no matter how they dress, but that’s just my opinion. Outsiders may call them goths, but do goths call them goths? No. Wearing drapey sleeves does not a goth make. Is all metal “not goth”? No, quite a lot has clear gothic influences. But like I say, it’s down to personal opinion since goth as a subculture and a musical genre is so huge and diverse these days.

]]> By: Lucretia http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103385 Lucretia Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:37:57 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103385 Well...to be honest, 'goth metallers' should have a say.<br /> I dress like a Romantigoth and read all sorts of the stuff that is classed as 'gothic'...yet *SHOCK HORROR* I listen to a range of metal, some classic and even a slight bit of industrial music. But do I listen to any sort of 'goth' music?<br /> No.<br /> <br /> Funny how everyone still thinks Im goth though isn't it?<br /> <br /> I believe that these days there is no 'goth' sound. No goth I know on the scene up Birmingham or in my town listens to so called 'goth' music. (Bar my mom, even though she isn't a goth shes a hippy.)<br /> <br /> Just a point for you to think on...<br /> Well…to be honest, ‘goth metallers’ should have a say.
I dress like a Romantigoth and read all sorts of the stuff that is classed as ‘gothic’…yet *SHOCK HORROR* I listen to a range of metal, some classic and even a slight bit of industrial music. But do I listen to any sort of ‘goth’ music?
No.

Funny how everyone still thinks Im goth though isn’t it?

I believe that these days there is no ‘goth’ sound. No goth I know on the scene up Birmingham or in my town listens to so called ‘goth’ music. (Bar my mom, even though she isn’t a goth shes a hippy.)

Just a point for you to think on…

]]> By: Freyja http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103387 Freyja Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:12:38 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103387 Whoever May Have Designed This Website, Must Have Read A Novel Called Goth Craft? I Love The Pictures. ^^' Xxxx Whoever May Have Designed This Website, Must Have Read A Novel Called Goth Craft? I Love The Pictures. ^^’ Xxxx

]]> By: Emma C S http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103383 Emma C S Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:04:09 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103383 Agreed, that's why I didn't include them in the article in the first place. Although technically their music has as much in common with "standard" goth as rivetheads, you're way more likely to see a rivethead at a goth club than a goth metaller or a horrorpunk. Metal tends to only get played as goth cheese (with some exceptions), I've never heard a horror punk track played at a goth club. Heard one at a death rock club once though.<br /> <br /> Terror surfers I've never come across, though there is a lot of surf influence in early death rock so I guess I can see the connection. Ethereals I'd say are an offshoot of romantigoths.<br /> <br /> There are loads of other fringe genres I could've included, but I stuck to ones I've seen in the local scene. Thanks for all the views and comments though, people, keep 'em coming! :) Agreed, that’s why I didn’t include them in the article in the first place. Although technically their music has as much in common with “standard” goth as rivetheads, you’re way more likely to see a rivethead at a goth club than a goth metaller or a horrorpunk. Metal tends to only get played as goth cheese (with some exceptions), I’ve never heard a horror punk track played at a goth club. Heard one at a death rock club once though.

Terror surfers I’ve never come across, though there is a lot of surf influence in early death rock so I guess I can see the connection. Ethereals I’d say are an offshoot of romantigoths.

There are loads of other fringe genres I could’ve included, but I stuck to ones I’ve seen in the local scene. Thanks for all the views and comments though, people, keep ‘em coming! :)

]]> By: Carlota http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103379 Carlota Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:02:48 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103379 "Gothic metals" are not goths. They're metalheads. Horror punks are not part of the goth scene, they're part of the punk rock scene. “Gothic metals” are not goths. They’re metalheads. Horror punks are not part of the goth scene, they’re part of the punk rock scene.

]]> By: D. K. http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103381 D. K. Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:44:48 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103381 Good article Emma, is very educational for the new gothic generations. Other groups in the escene are Horrorpunks,the gothic metals, terror surfers & ethereals.<br /> <br /> Thanks!!! Good article Emma, is very educational for the new gothic generations. Other groups in the escene are Horrorpunks,the gothic metals, terror surfers & ethereals.

Thanks!!!

]]> By: Lauren Axelrod http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103377 Lauren Axelrod Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:08:18 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103377 I never got into this scene, but I always found it fascinating. Cool piece! I never got into this scene, but I always found it fascinating. Cool piece!

]]> By: Emma C S http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103373 Emma C S Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:40:02 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103373 I'm not old enough to remember the very begining, but I like my trad goth. :) And I wouldn't say cybers are wannabes, just different. I kinda like cybers, there's a fair few of them around here.<br /> <br /> The pet piercing thing is horrible though. Most of the goths I know love animals and wouldn't dream of hurting one like that. I’m not old enough to remember the very begining, but I like my trad goth. :) And I wouldn’t say cybers are wannabes, just different. I kinda like cybers, there’s a fair few of them around here.

The pet piercing thing is horrible though. Most of the goths I know love animals and wouldn’t dream of hurting one like that.

]]> By: Mark Gordon Brown http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-103375 Mark Gordon Brown Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:29:33 +0000 http://socyberty.com/subcultures/baby-bats-to-eldergoths-a-guide-to-21st-century-goth-culture/#comment-103375 I got into Goth at the very begining, when it was stil a subgroup of Punk. I was in Flint Michigan at the time. Wonderful time. Michigan Goths were voted at one time the best dressed Goths in the USA, this is because Michigan got less sun than California, so of course our clothes were blacker! I got into Goth at the very begining, when it was stil a subgroup of Punk. I was in Flint Michigan at the time. Wonderful time. Michigan Goths were voted at one time the best dressed Goths in the USA, this is because Michigan got less sun than California, so of course our clothes were blacker!

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