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The Scythians

by John Walsh in Subcultures, February 29, 2008

An introduction to the Scythian people of the Steppes.

Many nomad tribes from the Steppes of Central Eurasia have swept down upon the sedentary peoples of Europe and China throughout history. The Mongols used wholesale slaughter to spread terror and encourage enemies to surrender without a fight; Timur the Lame (Tamberlaine) caused pyramids of human heads to be built up so that his name would cause the whole world to tremble. Centuries before, the Scythians hung scalps from their horse’s harnesses to terrify the Persians and the Greeks they met. One thing that is very noticeable about all of these Steppe peoples is how similar in so many different ways they were.

Unlike the Mongols, the Scythians came from the western part of the Steppe area and spoke a language very similar to Iranian. Yet their loose trousers, capes and jackets were similar to those worn down the centuries by subsequent tribal groupings. So too were the composite bows they used – although they did have a sharper angle to them, like, so it is said, Cupid’s bow. Made from a central wooden stave covered on one side by sinew and the other by bone, the composite bow was a significantly superior weapon to the self or simple bow used in western Europe, which was made from a single piece of wood. Further, the ability that the Scythians had in shooting their bows while manoeuvring their short, mobile horses, was unmatched in Europe. Swooping down upon the enemy, loosing a cloud of arrows and then running away at speed were tactics that defeated enemies for more than a millennium.

The Scythians attacked the Medes and took their territory, bringing them into contact with the Persians. These too were defeated and the Scythian empire was created in largely Persian territory. They came into contact with the Greeks and even sent a few mercenaries to fight alongside the Athenians. Perhaps our best source of invention about the Scythians – apart from archaeology – is Herodotus, who devoted one whole book of his Histories to a description of the people. He noted how hardy they were and how strong – although on the whole he was of the opinion that they were disreputable barbarians with little to show that was worthy of respect.

Along with other nomads, the Scythians had a semi-symbiotic relationship with the settled people in the land surrounding the Steppes. Pure nomadism is not a sustainable way of life – trade or raiding is essential for nomads to obtain the other items they need to survive. Indeed, many nomads actually have pursued some types of agriculture themselves when necessary. From the perspective of the settled peoples, the nomads appeared to be parasitic terror-mongers of no real humanity or value. History is, by and large, written by the settled peoples and, as a result, the reputation of the nomads has been rather poor.

Just as happened with the semi-legendary Cimmerians before them, the Scythians eventually faded away from history when their military ability was overcome. Living by the bow meant that the nomadic Scythians eventually died by, if not the bow, then the sword.

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  1. Scythian

    On August 8, 2008 at 6:13 am


    Scythians didn’t die out. I’m genetically a Scythian myself. 6′4″ tall, master mechanic, disciplined and military professional in Michigan. All that happened is that Sakas or Scythians settled into the nations they conquered, usually being part of the military or skilled technical of whichever nation they settled in or were born in. The Scythian Race is well and alive. But their names have changed, that’s all. The Rajputs and Jatts of India (Punjabis and Rajputs) are Scythians, about 3% of Indian population. The Magi of Iran are Scythians. Many military personnel in Greece and Italy are of Scythic blood. There’s a lot of Scythian blood mixed with the Tuetonic Tribes of Germany too. Scyths went everywhere, even one American Indian Tribe, different from the other ones, the Comanche is Scythian too. American Indians are not all the same people. They too came over as invaders of the Americas’ different groups at different times. As a tribute to my heritage, since we Scyths are kind of different from everyone else, I have revised my surname to Scythian as well. Typically that would be Saka, but the English translation is Scythian. Scythians are now various Indian, Iranian, Greek, German, Italian, Russian and American Indian people. They didn’t “die out” no more than the Celts who are the British today, “died out”. Names change that’s all. The people today are still mostly the people from the recent as well as the ancient past.

  2. a scythian or saka

    On November 2, 2008 at 1:12 am


    I agree with what Scythian said. Scythians didn’t extinct but they have now transformed over the centuries into differnt tribes which exist today. I am too a descendant of Scythians. For example, I am a Jatt(Jat) from Punjab and we Jatts still bore today the scythians surnames. You can find more than 50 surnames in Jatt ethnicity that are completely scythian and each one of them can be verified via hisory. You can also verify genetically. The DNA of Jatts has still the scythian content upto this day. Scythians simply obsorbed into the regions which they conquered. You can also find many cultural similarities of that region with the ones practiced by the scythians.

  3. Leyla

    On December 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm


    Bulgarians, Croats, Serbs, Jatts, Ukrainians all claim Scythian herritage…please just stop. Scythians are Iranic, we are all mixed people! No one is pure. The only people that have the right to claim Scythian ancestry are Iranic people.

  4. Scythian

    On December 28, 2008 at 5:30 pm


    Sure. Iranic people didn’t stay in Iran, they went everywhere. All those other nations (including Iranian) are just nationalities not races. Scythian-blooded people still live in many other nations. I.E. Indo-Iranics in the Punjab, India. Sakas in Afghanistan. Croats/Serbs who are ethnic. Another example to exemplify these facts is take British people for example, they have a right to claim to be Celts. Because their DNA is Celtic. I guess according to Leyla only people in England are Celtic no place else. Have you ever heard of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa Leyla? If so, they are filled up with Celtic British-blooded/DNA people too. Have you seen what I look like? Most Iranics aren’t even Scythians, they’re Persians and Turks. East Iranics, their descendents in Southern Afghanistan, East Europe & North India are still majority Scythian DNA, and look it! These nationalities are not races Leyla, you need to grow up. I bet you are short and Turk-looking, not even a 6′4″ tall Scythian Raced person like we Sakas are. You sound like some Turk who wants to claim the entire planet is “Turkish” when they don’t even look like you. When you look like an East Iranian Saka like we do, then we will continue our talk. Iranian isn’t a race it is just a nationality too. Persians and Scythians are minorities in Iran, most of Iran is littered with short little fat-faced Turks who pretend they are “Iranian” and they name their daughters Leyla. Leyla you Turks need to stop Turkfying everything you come near, or one day everyone will turn on you people. Iranians are 45% Turks, 35% Persians, 10% Arabs, 10% Scythians. (PLEASE POST THIS COMMENT SO THE FACTS CAN BE KNOWN, THANK YOU).

  5. Scythian

    On December 28, 2008 at 5:35 pm


    Hiya ‘Scythian or Saka’(#2) good to meet you. :)

  6. Scythian

    On December 28, 2008 at 5:53 pm


    Before there was an Afghanistan, there was “East Iran”. Or the “Iranian Plateau”. Which made up the Warrior Castes (Races) of the Persian Empire (Parthians). To this day, the best fighters are Sakas. In the region of Southern Afghanistan called Kandahar. Both Persian, Indians recruited these Sakas as their Warriors and Craftsmen. To this day they are a warlike, skilled technical, tall and strong people. Sakas would rather stay alone till than mix with other races. This is why the descendents of South Afghan Sakas wherever they are today are mostly Scythian in DNA un-mixed. Very tall, strong and very highly skilled builders, mechanics, gunsmiths & fighters. They are concentrated in S. Afghanistan, East Iran and Punjab North India/Pakistan. Various European groups are mixed with Sakas too. FOR THE RECORD, SCYTHIANS ARE: NURISTANI SAKAS FROM SOUTHERN AFGHANISTAN IN THE KANDAHAR REGION. Their descendents elsewhere are Rajputs & Jatts in India (Only 3% of India); Magi Saka in Iran (10% of Iran). The rest of the Scythians are scattered is small traces worldwide. ANYONE ELSE WHO DISAGREES WITH THESE FACTS IS EITHER NOT OF OUR SAKA/SCYTHIAN RACE OR IS SOME SHORT LITTLE FAT-FACED TURK TRYING TO DOCTOR TRUTHFUL HISTORY IN MORE FRAUDULENT TURK GARBAGE.

  7. Scythian

    On December 28, 2008 at 6:11 pm


    Leyla must be retarded or something. Because she thinks Scythians who settled elsewhere who are tall, strong and UN-MIXED Scythians “have no right to claim” they are Scythians. Leyla, please tell me how you got to be so stupid. Race/DNA doesn’t change if you leave your homeland to another territory while keeping your Race pure. I’ll show you my picture Leyla, then you’ll know what a Scythian looks like. But I’m sure you won’t show me your dark little fat Turk photograph, because then we will tell you, that you have no right to claim to be a Scythian.

  8. Scythian (Last Comment Here)

    On December 28, 2008 at 7:57 pm


    One last comment I want to make, which is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. So people out in the world don’t continue to be deceived & the liars can’t get away with their garbage here. No one in Iran calls themselves “Iranian” except the dirty, stupid terrorist criminal Azeri Turks who have infested “Iran” with their unfortunately presence. It is these dirty, stupid criminal Azeri Turks who have infested the region they even titled as “Iran” today (formerly Persia), who are the ONLY people who call themselves “Iranics” or “Iranians”. Scythians don’t call themselves “Iranian” they call themselves Sakas or Jatt or Rajput. Medes don’t call themselves “Iranian” they call themselves Kurds. Persians sure as hell don’t call themselves “Iranian” they call themselves Persians. Why don’t you Azeri Turks and your Zionist masters all just get lost and go back to Hell from where you come from? The world will be much happier with all of you devils gone. Some of us Sakas wish you demons were all exterminated, because then you Zionists and Azeri Turks (so-called “Iranians”) wouldn’t exist anymore, you’d all be exterminated in Death Camps like you should have been. The world wouldn’t be in the mess it is today because of you two evil demonic groups. The Armenian & Kurdish Genocide by Zionists and Azeri Turks would have never happened. The War in Iraq and Afghanistan would have never happened if Azeri Turks and Zionists were all exterminated. The Satanic New World Order which is ruining all nations slowly but surely would not be happening if Azeri Turks, Zionists and Britons were all exterminated. Maybe next time around the world will get rid of you demons, finally at last, for lasting world peace and sovereign national idenities restored once again. Indians, Punjabis/Scythians, Persians & Afghan Scythians are all good people, smart, educated and decent human beings. But Azeri Turks (so-called “Iranians”) & Zionists are the scum of the Earth who shall one day NOT BE SUFFERED TO LIVE!

  9. Saka

    On December 30, 2008 at 3:14 pm


    Figured an explosion in arguments would happen at a site about Scyths. This comment is to ‘Scythian’: Your blood is Scythic alright, but we all originated from where Kazakhstan is today. From Kazakhstan we conquered the Persians (East Iran & Afghanistan), Europeans and Indians settling amongst them as their military castes. But Kazakhstan in Central Asia is where we come from. Even among the Kshatryias of Iran and India, that word Kshatryia descends from the root word Kazakh. Kazakhstan is used to be called “Scythia”. Several countries among both Europe and Asia have various Scythic groups residing within them.

  10. Jas

    On January 16, 2009 at 8:13 pm


    Based on what I’ve read and recent studies on DNA of Jatts in Punjab, Jatts are descendents of scythians..

  11. TUrkic

    On February 22, 2009 at 1:14 pm


    they are Turkic Not Turkish my ”Scythian”friens The Name ”Turk” means ”walking” it means The tribes wich came from central asia are all Turk’s I didn’t mean Turkish cause it means the Turks who lives in Turkey.I laughed your answer that ”indians are scythian”hahaha:D you are so funy man have you ever heard the funeral called ”Esik kurgan” which found in north blacksea and dont forget ”Kurgan” means funeral in old Turkic language.they found a tombstone and some Runic alphabet words.that’s write on the stone .I’ll explane that words for you if you read that in old Turkic language you will see that ”Tigin Died at His 23,God’s mercy to us”
    think that and Cry man you’re not scythian you are just non-racial they are ancestors of mine!like Huns,Temurids,gokhturks etc.

  12. french scotch irish

    On March 15, 2009 at 8:22 pm


    Mr. Scythian, YOu should be ashamed to suggest that anyone be exterminated. There is room for peace here on earth. Jews are God’s people as demonstreted by the word of God. My father faced the Nazi warplanes and ground assault in WWII to help free the Jews and many others, in his P-51 Mustang -52 missions. His eyes would fill with tears if we asked him about the suffering he saw in the concentration camps. Yes, he saw the walking skeletons…. I don’t think God wants the beautiful races of earth to hate each other… Shame on you for being a murderer in your heart. May the God Jehova and his son Christ Jesus kingdom, bring peace on earth and such horrors never surface on the face of earth again. Why don’t you face the realities of what you’re doing and begin a peace movement among young people. Perhaps education of the awful and harsh realities of WWII would stop your countrymen from participating with your warmongering leader. WHAT IF ALL PEOPLES OF IRAN REFUSED TO participate in hating the peoples of earth beginning there in your own backyard? Peace and Love to you.

  13. Nima

    On April 14, 2009 at 11:43 am


    To Scythian:

    Most Turkish-speakers in Iran are just that; Turkish Speakers. Those who look Mongolian are those of Turkish blood. You might be interested to know that the Azaries (who are Turkish-speakers) are of Median origin (another Iranic group.)

    The Medes called themselves “Aryan” (the Avestan/Old-Iranian version of the Pahlavi/Middle-Persian word Eran/Iran).
    The Kurds, Azeries, Gilakis, Mazandaranies are of Median origin.

    The Persians also called themselves “Aryan”, the Scythians I’m not to sure of, but it seems like the terms Scythian, Sarmatian, Cimmerian and Alan are all tribal names, so its more likely they all referred to themselves as Aryans/Iranians.

    The term “Aryan” can be found on Achaemenid (Persians) cunieforms.
    The term “Eran” was used by both Parthians and Sassanians.

    Also the Parthians (Part) were not Persians (Pars), thotgh they both are of Iranian origin.

  14. Human

    On April 15, 2009 at 7:36 pm


    Hi Guys,

    As I just sat down to see re-read about the origins of the scythian, I did not like the lines I read above full of non-sense accusations and stuff.

    As far as I know Scytians were of Iranic stock, though, lately I have read different stories about this. Do not forget as time goes along and science evolves more and more, history may well be re-written (and this means for a lot of peoples and their origins).

    Currently I am at a stage of reading about proto-turkic history, which dates back to 14,000 years ago; that’s a deviation of at least 10,000 years. I am not saying that I agree with all I read, though the 2 scientist (actually 3 because an Italian doctor also is into this study) trace the proto-turks way back. A strong, and perhaps to be considered, approach is the study by a guy called Kazim Mirsan. He is an Uyghur from North-West China, who speaks many languages, especially a lot of the different Turkic languages. This ability combined with his abilty to read the Turkic Orkhin alphabet along with his ability to analyze the “birth” of that alphabet has given him the opportunity to analyze many old stone inscription that were thought to be anything but Turkic by “common” historians and linguist (and yes including Turkic linguists). With his experience knowledge of various Turkic languages as well as the ability to utilize and interpret various inscriptions he was able to read some runic inscriptions found in Scandinavia, some 7000 year old rock inscriptions in Eastern Turkey, some Frygian inscriptions in Western Turkey, the Etrusk language and even some inscriptions in Egypt. Now of course this does not mean that all these place the people were of Turkic descent, though, he believes through his findings that Scytians and Sumerians might have been of Turkic or Proto-Turkic stock, yet, as with a lot of history, anything is not certain.
    Now I know that Turkic (and thus Turkish from Turkey too) are classified under the Ural-Altaic language families. Ural/Uralic would be Finnish, Hungarian and some other. Though the latest I have heard is that the Ural and Ataic have been split from one another. And now even there are thoughts that Turkic and Mongolian who both belong to the Altaic group might not be related other than that they were neighbours for centuries.
    It could very well be that the Scytians were a Turkic stock who got Iranized, as there are perhaps Turkified Chuvas, or Iranized Hazara (said to be of Mongol descent).
    Now I have read some of you claim to be Scytians, but if that were so, I guess we can conclude that many Eastern Europeans are Hunnic, and many people in Turkey Hittites.
    In my opinion I think we need some more time so see what future studies will bring us. I know National Geographic has started an interesting study with “genes” where you can trace your origin back many thousands of years back (it can not trace your etnicity or whatever, though who knows in the near future?).

    Finally here a copy/paste of what I have found:

    “Among others, modern Kazakhs (especially the branch known as “Saks”) claim descent from the Sakas. The Sakha people of Siberia (see Yakuts) also claim descent from a remnant of the earlier Saka people. Additionally, although the evidence is dated and the technology utilized still in its infancy, DNA analysis conducted at the Novosibirsk Institute of Cytology and Genetics has found Kazakhs and Altai people to be the nearest relatives among competing Mongol-Turkic clans of a Scythian from the Pazyryk burial in Siberia.

    Archeological evidence and histographies shows a worldview of Sakas, closely related to that of present-day Kazakhs and Mongols. It is theorized that they believed Man was a part of the Universe, Cosmos, Heaven, Sun, mountains, river, in total nature, and shows close affinities with Shamanism and Tengriism which are still practiced today, from Kazakhstan to Siberia which conceive of God as related to Cosmic laws and forces. Siberian shamanism is not known to be directly connected to Indo-European religion.

    I hope you will understand what is nearst relatives”.

    The best to all of you!
    Human

  15. Uzbek Scythian

    On May 1, 2009 at 6:33 pm


    Hey guys do you know that the real area where scythian were living was central asia and mostly in the area of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, our many scythian ancestors were living there, I am an Uzbek I am a Scythian, if you search the history archievs, most of them are agree that Scythian / Massagteau were the forefathers of Uzbek people and the name of Uzbek is a political name which we have got after Mongol golden horde, its ture we have many mangol people as well who are now called themselves Uzbek, but real people who were living there and now are called Uzbek are scythian people, and I am proud to be a Scythian

  16. Scythian

    On May 19, 2009 at 4:18 am


    Scythians are Central Asian. We spread out into many countries worldwide, because of our technical and/or military prowness. Right on bro!

    30% of Iran; 18% of Pakistan; 5% of India; 25% of the Middle East; 50% of Central Asia; 10% of Europe, 1.75% of USA/Canada/Mexico (North America) all contain our Scythian Race.

    That’s not to mention the rest of the world where we’ve migrated, immigrated, conquered or explored into. :)

  17. The Germanic

    On May 21, 2009 at 2:35 pm


    Peace Scythians last time i heard about anyone pillaging the entire world it was the German Empire or Third Reich and the people still remain German so to the Britons and of which are another Germanic race !
    Romance peoples are many nations and the closest to a nation named after their roots is Romania which is Romance Peoples and then the Slavic peoples of which no country named just many mixes and then Germany of which is Germanic so if Scythians were so superhuman then why is no country called Scythia today not 1000 yrs ago ?
    Jews are alright so forget it i was not there asx all of us because today is what matters !
    All the power to Scythia

  18. Turkopol

    On June 1, 2009 at 7:32 am


    hey the germanic remember ATtila the hun..for what?look at the history he conquared all germanic tribes and send them to west for he beat your ancestors:D:D:Dit means my ancestors beat yours :D :Dhaha:D:D

  19. Aryan

    On June 2, 2009 at 9:58 pm


    The Scythians belong to Iranic Peoples.They are Aryans

    Iran means Land of the Aryans

    I am Darius.the Great King.King of Kings.King of countries containing all kinds of men.King in this great earth far & wide.son of hystaspes.an Achaemenian.a Persian.son of a Persian.an Aryan.having Aryan lineage

    An Iranian necklace belongs to 3000 years ago

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Swastika_iran.jpg

  20. Uzbek Scythian

    On June 19, 2009 at 1:04 pm


    Hey Aryan, go and read your Cyrus the great history, Firoz 1 and Darius 2 who were all killed by the Great Scythians in the center of Central Asia, for your further information, your Cyrus the great whom you are proud of was killed by our Great Scythian queen Tomyris and one Italian painter painted her portrait, that she rubs your Cyrus the great’s head under her feet. Scythan are knnown as the enemeies of persians and vice versa persian were always trying to capture the dom of Scythians which caused the lost of above mentioned persian kings. I always keep my pride in side of my herat that I am a Scythian.

  21. Aryan

    On July 8, 2009 at 3:54 am


    Yes،We are proud of Cyrus the Great.World respects him

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomyris

    Can you understand the difference between them?
    First the Scythians attacked the Medes & the Persians

    The Scythians didn’t kill Darius 2 & this is your captured king

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Behistun.Inscript.Skunkha.jpg

    you invaded Persia several times & you were defeated by Bahram V & Yazdegerd II & Khosrau I

    Even name of your country is half Persian.Uzbek+istan=Uzbekistan such as Kurdistan & Turkistan & Pakistan & Kazakhstan &…
    you faded away from history & world doesen’t recognize you as Scythian nation now.where are you now?.where is your country & your language & your culture?
    but we were/are Persians
    First Rescue your country from occupiers & turkification & Found Scythia or your own country & your army & your weapons & ballistic missiles & Send your satellite into orbit & Enrich uranium & Speak your Iranic language then come here & Talk about history & pride & Scythians you turkified people

  22. Dude

    On July 24, 2009 at 12:02 am


    Most of you are a bunch of nutters.

    The world is mixed. Scythians are a vague ancient linguistic/ethnic/nationalistic/geographical category. A Scyth may very well be a general designation for nomadic people living in a wide portion of Asia. It may be a definite genetic category.

    either way, there is no biological basis for race. Hell, we’re damn near chimpanzees.

    And to the poster under the moniker “Scythian” SIEG HEIL! Identity crisis much? right? you crazy nutter!

  23. Indian s

    On July 25, 2009 at 8:28 am


    Hello to all
    in indian history the word saka can be find in most ancient inscriptions and it is said that saka soldiers take part in epic war of mahabharat of ancient kshatriyas i.e, they are in indian history since starting but they start settling in india (including pakistan) only after ages of ancient aryan kshatriyas was over due to repeated attack by huns . Then they start migrating india in large hordes and settled in north west india and eventually adopted hinduism (later on islam also) and acquired kshatriya status but soon their power eclipsed with the rise of islam and they give up sword and pick up plough and formed one of the most sucessful agricultural community of india as today they are mainly farmers and soldiers jatts , gujjar, ahir ,rajputs of north west india are said to have scythian ancestry but jatts have least intermixing because of strict marriage rules and they show massive scythian physique

  24. I actually read for a living

    On July 30, 2009 at 11:30 am


    This article containts an inaccurate statement: “Pure nomadism is not a sustainable way of life – trade or raiding is essential for nomads to obtain the other items they need to survive.” That’s not true. For most of human history we as a species were nomadic. It is probably one of the most sustainable ways of life, with civilization being the least. Trade, and to a lesser extent, raiding, was probably somewhat common through most of our existance but the level and full meaning behind this “raiding” as seen in the article is usually because of civilization crowding and killing land that raiding takes place. Relying solely on agriculture requries the hardest work, longest days, and is most likely to result in starvation.

  25. Uzbek Scythain

    On August 13, 2009 at 8:17 am


    Aryan cool down man you go so fast, I am not fighting with you, it is history my friend niether you and nor me are able to to prove who was 1000 years ago our real blood fathers, a mongol face can change after 3 generation if it merge with an european race and vice versa so it is a story that we make history, i like iranian people and they have always been we Uzbeks friends we have more 1000 persian words in our langauge, so who knows who was realy who. but according to the historicians i say that I might be a Scythian, who know how much is it true. but do not forget is that the earth is from all and we are all humans and that is it.

  26. Rana Ali

    On October 3, 2009 at 3:40 pm


    hahah man u guys are crazy,AND im confused im rajput not 6/4 but 6 ft and i live in Pakistanand speak many persian words hell its part of my language or my language is based on persian.But who know dude all tht happened thousands of years back, the indians dude mere 2 percent indians are aryan or sythian rest the dravidians black guy fat noses and small heights lol.some call rajputs aryans some say sycthian dont know who to believe.and b the way my ancestors was Rana who joined Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni and joined islam and he had 4 sons who got there own land.So after 1947 most of us came to Pakistan so man the only thing i can tell abt my ancestory is tht they were brave honorable people lived and died my the sword,or the sword the horse and the son thts wat i know of my people,and still we people r known as honorable warrior people.indians call us aryans internet says we r scythians?(Ali 19)

  27. Mustafa Shah Kirmani

    On October 21, 2009 at 1:51 am


    hi, i am not of scythian descent, i am a pakistani, however 12 generations ago, my family moved from iran, post-islamic, my ancestors have not been very ancient in the region as jats or rajputs, however i know tht most panjabis are scythians like kambohs, jatts, rajputs, gujjars, awans (claim direct descent from ukraine) and arrains, my mom is an arrain (comes from the word aryan) and her grandfather was tall, with a a ruddy white complexion and had blue eyes, and known to be good looking, and my grandfather also always mentions how he sees ppl who could be mistaken for germans, when he goes to his village, panjabis and pakistanis in india have always been known to be fairer, taller and have had more prominent features than the other ppls of india, in fact the british always used to identify the panjabis as \”more akin to the afghans than any meek hindu race they have now settled amongst\”,, their scythian ancestry has also played a huge role in them being noted as the strongest and militarily able ppl in the whole of india, more than the hindus, the british knew this and that is why they only chose nw indian ppls to join their military like the panjabis and the pathans, there is also another tribe among the panjabis called the kambohs, who r also supposedly scythian people and ruled afghanistan long ago, the sikh ones claim descent from central asia, while the muslim ones tell tht they are the descendants of the ancient sassanians, and after the arab conquest the sassanians escaped and settled in panjab, throughout india they are noted for being towering, with fair complexions like the moon, handsome and light eyed, and their women have been noted for their beauty since ancient times, it is more likely they are a scythian race and did not descend from the sassanians (medes/parthians=persian)

  28. Mustafa Shah Kermani

    On October 21, 2009 at 1:53 am


    hi, i am not of scythian descent, i am a pakistani, however 12 generations ago, my family moved from iran, post-islamic, my ancestors have not been very ancient in the region as jats or rajputs, however i know tht most panjabis are scythians like kambohs, jatts, rajputs, gujjars, awans (claim direct descent from ukraine) and arrains, my mom is an arrain (comes from the word aryan) and her grandfather was tall, with a a ruddy white complexion and had blue eyes, and known to be good looking, and my grandfather also always mentions how he sees ppl who could be mistaken for germans, when he goes to his village, panjabis and pakistanis in india have always been known to be fairer, taller and have had more prominent features than the other ppls of india, in fact the british always used to identify the panjabis as \”more akin to the afghans than any meek hindu race they have now settled amongst\”,, their scythian ancestry has also played a huge role in them being noted as the strongest and militarily able ppl in the whole of india, more than the hindus, the british knew this and that is why they only chose nw indian ppls to join their military like the panjabis and the pathans, there is also another tribe among the panjabis called the kambohs, who r also supposedly scythian people and ruled afghanistan long ago, the sikh ones claim descent from central asia, while the muslim ones tell tht they are the descendants of the ancient sassanians, and after the arab conquest the sassanians escaped and settled in panjab, throughout india they are noted for being towering, with fair complexions like the moon, handsome and light eyed, and their women have been noted for their beauty since ancient times, it is more likely they are a scythian race and did not descend from the sassanians (medes/parthians=persian)

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