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		<title>By: Nubian</title>
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		<description>What a bunch of morons!  All humans are from Africa originally.

And as for the usual North Indian/Pakistani wannabe Europeans, there are Pakistani and North Indian migrants including Jats/Pastuns in places like Hong Kong/Shanghai/Malaysia and guess what they are regarded as weak and puny by the little Chinese guys. In Europe and US also the police and army recruitment agencies have had to lower their height requirements to accomodate South Asians the majority of who are Jats/Punjabis/Sikhs/North Indian Hindus/Pakistani/Pashtun/Whatever.

So much for being part of a tall/blonde/blue eyed Aryan/Scynthian/Whatever race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of morons!  All humans are from Africa originally.</p>
<p>And as for the usual North Indian/Pakistani wannabe Europeans, there are Pakistani and North Indian migrants including Jats/Pastuns in places like Hong Kong/Shanghai/Malaysia and guess what they are regarded as weak and puny by the little Chinese guys. In Europe and US also the police and army recruitment agencies have had to lower their height requirements to accomodate South Asians the majority of who are Jats/Punjabis/Sikhs/North Indian Hindus/Pakistani/Pashtun/Whatever.</p>
<p>So much for being part of a tall/blonde/blue eyed Aryan/Scynthian/Whatever race.</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Within Haplogroup F, besides the major sub-clades of G, H and IJK, other patrilines can still be detected at a very low frequency among many populations of the southern fringe of Eurasia and Oceania. Haplogroup F-M89 is a “default” haplogroup potentially comprising several lineages.[6] Originally it was believed[by whom?][citation needed] all M89+ men would be found to belong to F descendant haplogroups G-T, but an increasing number of men have continued to test positive only for the mutation that defines F.[7] The F* haplogroup is paraphyletic and rare in most regions.

In India it is distributed similarly to H.[8] India has a frequency of 12.5%, being the most frequent haplogroup in tribal groups after Haplogroup H. Among tribal groups it is at 18.1%, and among caste groups it is at 9.6%,[6], it is important in panchamas and sudras.[9] So it is important in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh,[3] in Koya tribes is at 27% and in Sinhalese people 10%.[4]

It is found in two north Portuguese populations (0.5%) and this may have occurred as a result of admixture since Portugal has significant contacts with India for about 500 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Within Haplogroup F, besides the major sub-clades of G, H and IJK, other patrilines can still be detected at a very low frequency among many populations of the southern fringe of Eurasia and Oceania. Haplogroup F-M89 is a “default” haplogroup potentially comprising several lineages.[6] Originally it was believed[by whom?][citation needed] all M89+ men would be found to belong to F descendant haplogroups G-T, but an increasing number of men have continued to test positive only for the mutation that defines F.[7] The F* haplogroup is paraphyletic and rare in most regions.</p>
<p>In India it is distributed similarly to H.[8] India has a frequency of 12.5%, being the most frequent haplogroup in tribal groups after Haplogroup H. Among tribal groups it is at 18.1%, and among caste groups it is at 9.6%,[6], it is important in panchamas and sudras.[9] So it is important in Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh,[3] in Koya tribes is at 27% and in Sinhalese people 10%.[4]</p>
<p>It is found in two north Portuguese populations (0.5%) and this may have occurred as a result of admixture since Portugal has significant contacts with India for about 500 years.</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<dc:creator>husayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry 4 posting info 2times there was some problems posting</description>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<description>joktan(QaHtaan)
·

Josephus says that Joktan of the Hebrews had thirteen sons:  Elmodad, Saleph, Asermoth, Jera, Adoram, Aizel, Decla, Ebal, Abimael, Sabeus,(( Ophir)), Eulat, and Jobab. He says that these people inhabited Asia from the Indian River, Cophen, and the lands surrounding it. This is modern Kabul and the valley of its river. The land further towards the Indus is Bactria. Thus, if that is the fact of the matter they seemingly moved through the Arabian Peninsular and most went on to India. The result could be the composite groups of Joktan in what is Afghanistan, Gather in Bactria and then Lud in the Punjab. The Semitic Haplogroup H in India(((((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.wikipedia))))) would then be derived from a mutation that occurred among the Hebrews of Joktan and the Semites of Lud. The golden wedge of Ophir refers to the lands of one of the sons of Joktan who settled in Afghanistan or India, and thus the area of Ophir may be from the Hindu Cush into India or perhaps, even more likely, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) (see also below).

Afghan and other Pashtun

 

The Wikipedia article on Pashtuns says they would appear to be primarily of Iranian origin, but have similarities with Persians, Kurds, Tajiks and Baluchis.

 

Pashto-speaking Pashtuns (or Pukhtuns, depending on dialect) and are found in southern and eastern Afghanistan and western Pakistan. These Pashtuns also became intermingled with others groups, such as the Ghilzai (who possibly mingled with Turkic tribes), the Durrani (who interacted with the Tajiks), and Pashtun tribes north of Peshawar (who mingled with Dardic groups).

 

The article went on to say that from the first to the fifth century BCE huge migrations of peoples from Aryans, Persians, Sakas, Scythians, Kushans, Huns, and Greeks moved into the regions where the Pashtuns lived. Later invaders were Muslim Arabs, Central Asian Turkic tribes and Mongols.

 

The anthropological evidence that the Pashto-speaking Pashtuns are an Indo-European  Caucasoid people, who are related to other Iranian groups and to speakers of the Kalasha and Nuristanis languages, is by no means conclusive. So far the testing has not shown any substantial connection between the Pashtun population sampled to the genetic markers found amongst most Greeks, Jews, or Arabs. The answer may be that Pashtuns have been slightly modified over time by various invaders and mixes as mentioned above. Yet they have kept their eastern Iranian base genetically overall.

 

There would thus also be Japhethitic R1a and R1b and Hamitic C YDNA present.

 

Many conclusions concerning the Semites come from the premise that the Semitic Haplogroups are all J as found among the three populations mentioned.

 

The Pashtun are classified as Iranian, which as we have seen is primarily Haplogroup I which is derived from the Semitic IJ Haplogroup (see below) but they vary as a typical Central Asian composite YDNA grouping. An attempt was made to classify the Pashtun in the 16th century as one of the Bani Israel, of the Lost Ten Tribes and as Joseph. This was debunked based on their Indo-Iranian affinities and language. However, it is an historical fact that the area of Khandahar, Kabul and Bactria also, on the other side of the Hindu Cush, were made provinces or satrapies of the Persian Empire and their languages are thus affected by that fact.  The DNA similarities with Elam and their reported historical descent and affinity with Joktan indicate that the original DNA of the Semites, including the Joktan Hebrews, was not J but F and the primary Semitic derivative is I and the secondary derivatives are J, both derived from IJ (based on S2 and S22) and then H and G. All the Eastern Semites of Elam and Joktan were Hg. I, rather than J. Thus these mutations occurred over the second millennium BCE and the extended mathematical models of the evolutionists are wrong.((((((((((((((Note the semitic H ,J and F are found in higher frequency among the dark people of India?. 28% of the Brahui, an ethnic Dravidian speaking group from Western Pakistan were found to carry the mutation defining Haplogroup J. (but brahui are nomads like the Elamites)

South Asia

Haplogroup H is fairly common among populations of India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Pakistan.(((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.[6])))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and it is a fact the oman.yemeni and nabateans traded with southern India)

In India, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 27.2% (110/405) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition from southern India.[7][8] Another study has found haplogroup H-M69 in 26.4% (192/728) of an ethnically diverse pool of samples from various regions of India.[3]

In Sri Lanka, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 25.3% (23/91) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition[7][8] and in 10.3% (4/39) of a sample of Sinhalese.[6]

In Nepal, one study has found Haplogroup H in approximately 12% of a sample of males from the general population of Kathmandu (including 4/77 H1a-M82, 4/77 H1*-M52(xH1a-M82), and 1/77 H*-M69(xH1-M52, H2-Apt)) and in 6% of a sample of Newars (4/66 H1a-M82).[9]

In Pakistan, Haplogroup H1-M52 has been found in 4.1% Burusho, 20.5% Kalash, 4.2% Pashtun, and 2.5% other Pakistanis.[10] Another study has found haplogroup H in approximately 8% (3/38) of a sample of Burusho (also known as Hunza), including 5% (2/38) H1a*-M82(xH1a1-M36, H1a2-M97, H1a3-M39/M138) and 3% (1/38) H1a1-M36.

 

The Durrany and Galzay tribes are held to be direct descendants of the Ibrani or Hebrews and probably of the sons of Joktan. Some also hold the Rabbani, Shinwari, Levani, Deftali, and Jaji from Afghanistan, and the Efridi and Yusufzai from Pakistan to also be Hebrew tribes.

 

Where is Cophen?

 

Cophen: river in eastern Afghanistan and the western Punjab, the modern Kabul.

 

The source of the river Kabul is in the Hindu Kush mountains, not far from the modern city with the same name, the capital of Afghanistan. From here, it flows to the east until it discharges into the Indus, near Attock. It is therefore the natural road to India, and several cities have flourished from trade along the river (e.g., Peucelaotis and modern Peshawar). This photo shows the river near Peshawar, seen to the east.

wikipedia

(((((The vast majority of Pashtuns are found between the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan and the Indus River in Pakistan.)))) Additional Pashtun communities are located in western and northern Afghanistan, the Gilgit-Baltistan region and northern Punjab province of Pakistan, as well as in the Khorasan province of Iran. There are also sizable communities in India, which are of largely putative ancestry.[8][22] Smaller Pashtun communities are found in the countries of the Arabian Peninsula, Europe and the Americas, particularly in North America.

Important metropolitan centers of Pashtun culture include Kandahar, Quetta, Peshawar, Jalalabad, Kunduz and Swat. Kabul and Ghazni are home to around 25% Pashtun population while Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif each has at least 10%.[23] With as high as 7 million by some estimates, the city of Karachi in Pakistan may have the largest concentration of urban Pashtuns in the world.[24][25] In addition, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Lahore also have sizable Pashtun populations.[26]



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<p>Josephus says that Joktan of the Hebrews had thirteen sons:  Elmodad, Saleph, Asermoth, Jera, Adoram, Aizel, Decla, Ebal, Abimael, Sabeus,(( Ophir)), Eulat, and Jobab. He says that these people inhabited Asia from the Indian River, Cophen, and the lands surrounding it. This is modern Kabul and the valley of its river. The land further towards the Indus is Bactria. Thus, if that is the fact of the matter they seemingly moved through the Arabian Peninsular and most went on to India. The result could be the composite groups of Joktan in what is Afghanistan, Gather in Bactria and then Lud in the Punjab. The Semitic Haplogroup H in India(((((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.wikipedia))))) would then be derived from a mutation that occurred among the Hebrews of Joktan and the Semites of Lud. The golden wedge of Ophir refers to the lands of one of the sons of Joktan who settled in Afghanistan or India, and thus the area of Ophir may be from the Hindu Cush into India or perhaps, even more likely, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) (see also below).</p>
<p>Afghan and other Pashtun</p>
<p>The Wikipedia article on Pashtuns says they would appear to be primarily of Iranian origin, but have similarities with Persians, Kurds, Tajiks and Baluchis.</p>
<p>Pashto-speaking Pashtuns (or Pukhtuns, depending on dialect) and are found in southern and eastern Afghanistan and western Pakistan. These Pashtuns also became intermingled with others groups, such as the Ghilzai (who possibly mingled with Turkic tribes), the Durrani (who interacted with the Tajiks), and Pashtun tribes north of Peshawar (who mingled with Dardic groups).</p>
<p>The article went on to say that from the first to the fifth century BCE huge migrations of peoples from Aryans, Persians, Sakas, Scythians, Kushans, Huns, and Greeks moved into the regions where the Pashtuns lived. Later invaders were Muslim Arabs, Central Asian Turkic tribes and Mongols.</p>
<p>The anthropological evidence that the Pashto-speaking Pashtuns are an Indo-European  Caucasoid people, who are related to other Iranian groups and to speakers of the Kalasha and Nuristanis languages, is by no means conclusive. So far the testing has not shown any substantial connection between the Pashtun population sampled to the genetic markers found amongst most Greeks, Jews, or Arabs. The answer may be that Pashtuns have been slightly modified over time by various invaders and mixes as mentioned above. Yet they have kept their eastern Iranian base genetically overall.</p>
<p>There would thus also be Japhethitic R1a and R1b and Hamitic C YDNA present.</p>
<p>Many conclusions concerning the Semites come from the premise that the Semitic Haplogroups are all J as found among the three populations mentioned.</p>
<p>The Pashtun are classified as Iranian, which as we have seen is primarily Haplogroup I which is derived from the Semitic IJ Haplogroup (see below) but they vary as a typical Central Asian composite YDNA grouping. An attempt was made to classify the Pashtun in the 16th century as one of the Bani Israel, of the Lost Ten Tribes and as Joseph. This was debunked based on their Indo-Iranian affinities and language. However, it is an historical fact that the area of Khandahar, Kabul and Bactria also, on the other side of the Hindu Cush, were made provinces or satrapies of the Persian Empire and their languages are thus affected by that fact.  The DNA similarities with Elam and their reported historical descent and affinity with Joktan indicate that the original DNA of the Semites, including the Joktan Hebrews, was not J but F and the primary Semitic derivative is I and the secondary derivatives are J, both derived from IJ (based on S2 and S22) and then H and G. All the Eastern Semites of Elam and Joktan were Hg. I, rather than J. Thus these mutations occurred over the second millennium BCE and the extended mathematical models of the evolutionists are wrong.((((((((((((((Note the semitic H ,J and F are found in higher frequency among the dark people of India?. 28% of the Brahui, an ethnic Dravidian speaking group from Western Pakistan were found to carry the mutation defining Haplogroup J. (but brahui are nomads like the Elamites)</p>
<p>South Asia</p>
<p>Haplogroup H is fairly common among populations of India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Pakistan.(((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.[6])))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and it is a fact the oman.yemeni and nabateans traded with southern India)</p>
<p>In India, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 27.2% (110/405) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition from southern India.[7][8] Another study has found haplogroup H-M69 in 26.4% (192/728) of an ethnically diverse pool of samples from various regions of India.[3]</p>
<p>In Sri Lanka, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 25.3% (23/91) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition[7][8] and in 10.3% (4/39) of a sample of Sinhalese.[6]</p>
<p>In Nepal, one study has found Haplogroup H in approximately 12% of a sample of males from the general population of Kathmandu (including 4/77 H1a-M82, 4/77 H1*-M52(xH1a-M82), and 1/77 H*-M69(xH1-M52, H2-Apt)) and in 6% of a sample of Newars (4/66 H1a-M82).[9]</p>
<p>In Pakistan, Haplogroup H1-M52 has been found in 4.1% Burusho, 20.5% Kalash, 4.2% Pashtun, and 2.5% other Pakistanis.[10] Another study has found haplogroup H in approximately 8% (3/38) of a sample of Burusho (also known as Hunza), including 5% (2/38) H1a*-M82(xH1a1-M36, H1a2-M97, H1a3-M39/M138) and 3% (1/38) H1a1-M36.</p>
<p>The Durrany and Galzay tribes are held to be direct descendants of the Ibrani or Hebrews and probably of the sons of Joktan. Some also hold the Rabbani, Shinwari, Levani, Deftali, and Jaji from Afghanistan, and the Efridi and Yusufzai from Pakistan to also be Hebrew tribes.</p>
<p>Where is Cophen?</p>
<p>Cophen: river in eastern Afghanistan and the western Punjab, the modern Kabul.</p>
<p>The source of the river Kabul is in the Hindu Kush mountains, not far from the modern city with the same name, the capital of Afghanistan. From here, it flows to the east until it discharges into the Indus, near Attock. It is therefore the natural road to India, and several cities have flourished from trade along the river (e.g., Peucelaotis and modern Peshawar). This photo shows the river near Peshawar, seen to the east.</p>
<p>wikipedia</p>
<p>(((((The vast majority of Pashtuns are found between the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan and the Indus River in Pakistan.)))) Additional Pashtun communities are located in western and northern Afghanistan, the Gilgit-Baltistan region and northern Punjab province of Pakistan, as well as in the Khorasan province of Iran. There are also sizable communities in India, which are of largely putative ancestry.[8][22] Smaller Pashtun communities are found in the countries of the Arabian Peninsula, Europe and the Americas, particularly in North America.</p>
<p>Important metropolitan centers of Pashtun culture include Kandahar, Quetta, Peshawar, Jalalabad, Kunduz and Swat. Kabul and Ghazni are home to around 25% Pashtun population while Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif each has at least 10%.[23] With as high as 7 million by some estimates, the city of Karachi in Pakistan may have the largest concentration of urban Pashtuns in the world.[24][25] In addition, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Lahore also have sizable Pashtun populations.[26]</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<description>joktan(QaHtaan)
·

Josephus says that Joktan of the Hebrews had thirteen sons:  Elmodad, Saleph, Asermoth, Jera, Adoram, Aizel, Decla, Ebal, Abimael, Sabeus,(( Ophir)), Eulat, and Jobab. He says that these people inhabited Asia from the Indian River, Cophen, and the lands surrounding it. This is modern Kabul and the valley of its river. The land further towards the Indus is Bactria. Thus, if that is the fact of the matter they seemingly moved through the Arabian Peninsular and most went on to India. The result could be the composite groups of Joktan in what is Afghanistan, Gather in Bactria and then Lud in the Punjab. The Semitic Haplogroup H in India(((((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.wikipedia))))) would then be derived from a mutation that occurred among the Hebrews of Joktan and the Semites of Lud. The golden wedge of Ophir refers to the lands of one of the sons of Joktan who settled in Afghanistan or India, and thus the area of Ophir may be from the Hindu Cush into India or perhaps, even more likely, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) (see also below).

Afghan and other Pashtun

 

The Wikipedia article on Pashtuns says they would appear to be primarily of Iranian origin, but have similarities with Persians, Kurds, Tajiks and Baluchis.

 

Pashto-speaking Pashtuns (or Pukhtuns, depending on dialect) and are found in southern and eastern Afghanistan and western Pakistan. These Pashtuns also became intermingled with others groups, such as the Ghilzai (who possibly mingled with Turkic tribes), the Durrani (who interacted with the Tajiks), and Pashtun tribes north of Peshawar (who mingled with Dardic groups).

 

The article went on to say that from the first to the fifth century BCE huge migrations of peoples from Aryans, Persians, Sakas, Scythians, Kushans, Huns, and Greeks moved into the regions where the Pashtuns lived. Later invaders were Muslim Arabs, Central Asian Turkic tribes and Mongols.

 

The anthropological evidence that the Pashto-speaking Pashtuns are an Indo-European  Caucasoid people, who are related to other Iranian groups and to speakers of the Kalasha and Nuristanis languages, is by no means conclusive. So far the testing has not shown any substantial connection between the Pashtun population sampled to the genetic markers found amongst most Greeks, Jews, or Arabs. The answer may be that Pashtuns have been slightly modified over time by various invaders and mixes as mentioned above. Yet they have kept their eastern Iranian base genetically overall.

 

There would thus also be Japhethitic R1a and R1b and Hamitic C YDNA present.

 

Many conclusions concerning the Semites come from the premise that the Semitic Haplogroups are all J as found among the three populations mentioned.

 

The Pashtun are classified as Iranian, which as we have seen is primarily Haplogroup I which is derived from the Semitic IJ Haplogroup (see below) but they vary as a typical Central Asian composite YDNA grouping. An attempt was made to classify the Pashtun in the 16th century as one of the Bani Israel, of the Lost Ten Tribes and as Joseph. This was debunked based on their Indo-Iranian affinities and language. However, it is an historical fact that the area of Khandahar, Kabul and Bactria also, on the other side of the Hindu Cush, were made provinces or satrapies of the Persian Empire and their languages are thus affected by that fact.  The DNA similarities with Elam and their reported historical descent and affinity with Joktan indicate that the original DNA of the Semites, including the Joktan Hebrews, was not J but F and the primary Semitic derivative is I and the secondary derivatives are J, both derived from IJ (based on S2 and S22) and then H and G. All the Eastern Semites of Elam and Joktan were Hg. I, rather than J. Thus these mutations occurred over the second millennium BCE and the extended mathematical models of the evolutionists are wrong.((((((((((((((Note the semitic H ,J and F are found in higher frequency among the dark people of India?. 28% of the Brahui, an ethnic Dravidian speaking group from Western Pakistan were found to carry the mutation defining Haplogroup J. (but brahui are nomads like the Elamites)

South Asia

Haplogroup H is fairly common among populations of India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Pakistan.(((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.[6])))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and it is a fact the oman.yemeni and nabateans traded with southern India)

In India, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 27.2% (110/405) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition from southern India.[7][8] Another study has found haplogroup H-M69 in 26.4% (192/728) of an ethnically diverse pool of samples from various regions of India.[3]

In Sri Lanka, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 25.3% (23/91) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition[7][8] and in 10.3% (4/39) of a sample of Sinhalese.[6]

In Nepal, one study has found Haplogroup H in approximately 12% of a sample of males from the general population of Kathmandu (including 4/77 H1a-M82, 4/77 H1*-M52(xH1a-M82), and 1/77 H*-M69(xH1-M52, H2-Apt)) and in 6% of a sample of Newars (4/66 H1a-M82).[9]

In Pakistan, Haplogroup H1-M52 has been found in 4.1% Burusho, 20.5% Kalash, 4.2% Pashtun, and 2.5% other Pakistanis.[10] Another study has found haplogroup H in approximately 8% (3/38) of a sample of Burusho (also known as Hunza), including 5% (2/38) H1a*-M82(xH1a1-M36, H1a2-M97, H1a3-M39/M138) and 3% (1/38) H1a1-M36.

 

The Durrany and Galzay tribes are held to be direct descendants of the Ibrani or Hebrews and probably of the sons of Joktan. Some also hold the Rabbani, Shinwari, Levani, Deftali, and Jaji from Afghanistan, and the Efridi and Yusufzai from Pakistan to also be Hebrew tribes.

 

Where is Cophen?

 

Cophen: river in eastern Afghanistan and the western Punjab, the modern Kabul.

 

The source of the river Kabul is in the Hindu Kush mountains, not far from the modern city with the same name, the capital of Afghanistan. From here, it flows to the east until it discharges into the Indus, near Attock. It is therefore the natural road to India, and several cities have flourished from trade along the river (e.g., Peucelaotis and modern Peshawar). This photo shows the river near Peshawar, seen to the east.

wikipedia

(((((The vast majority of Pashtuns are found between the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan and the Indus River in Pakistan.)))) Additional Pashtun communities are located in western and northern Afghanistan, the Gilgit-Baltistan region and northern Punjab province of Pakistan, as well as in the Khorasan province of Iran. There are also sizable communities in India, which are of largely putative ancestry.[8][22] Smaller Pashtun communities are found in the countries of the Arabian Peninsula, Europe and the Americas, particularly in North America.

Important metropolitan centers of Pashtun culture include Kandahar, Quetta, Peshawar, Jalalabad, Kunduz and Swat. Kabul and Ghazni are home to around 25% Pashtun population while Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif each has at least 10%.[23] With as high as 7 million by some estimates, the city of Karachi in Pakistan may have the largest concentration of urban Pashtuns in the world.[24][25] In addition, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Lahore also have sizable Pashtun populations.[26]



also my g g g grandfather was pashtun he 100% did not look white his features were more semitic and i have met a jatt muslim from kashmir he was big and he resembled my g g g grandfather and to be honest he did not resemble punjabis i have seen i live in an area where there a lot of punjabis but their facial features are different </description>
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<p>Josephus says that Joktan of the Hebrews had thirteen sons:  Elmodad, Saleph, Asermoth, Jera, Adoram, Aizel, Decla, Ebal, Abimael, Sabeus,(( Ophir)), Eulat, and Jobab. He says that these people inhabited Asia from the Indian River, Cophen, and the lands surrounding it. This is modern Kabul and the valley of its river. The land further towards the Indus is Bactria. Thus, if that is the fact of the matter they seemingly moved through the Arabian Peninsular and most went on to India. The result could be the composite groups of Joktan in what is Afghanistan, Gather in Bactria and then Lud in the Punjab. The Semitic Haplogroup H in India(((((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.wikipedia))))) would then be derived from a mutation that occurred among the Hebrews of Joktan and the Semites of Lud. The golden wedge of Ophir refers to the lands of one of the sons of Joktan who settled in Afghanistan or India, and thus the area of Ophir may be from the Hindu Cush into India or perhaps, even more likely, Sri Lanka (Ceylon) (see also below).</p>
<p>Afghan and other Pashtun</p>
<p>The Wikipedia article on Pashtuns says they would appear to be primarily of Iranian origin, but have similarities with Persians, Kurds, Tajiks and Baluchis.</p>
<p>Pashto-speaking Pashtuns (or Pukhtuns, depending on dialect) and are found in southern and eastern Afghanistan and western Pakistan. These Pashtuns also became intermingled with others groups, such as the Ghilzai (who possibly mingled with Turkic tribes), the Durrani (who interacted with the Tajiks), and Pashtun tribes north of Peshawar (who mingled with Dardic groups).</p>
<p>The article went on to say that from the first to the fifth century BCE huge migrations of peoples from Aryans, Persians, Sakas, Scythians, Kushans, Huns, and Greeks moved into the regions where the Pashtuns lived. Later invaders were Muslim Arabs, Central Asian Turkic tribes and Mongols.</p>
<p>The anthropological evidence that the Pashto-speaking Pashtuns are an Indo-European  Caucasoid people, who are related to other Iranian groups and to speakers of the Kalasha and Nuristanis languages, is by no means conclusive. So far the testing has not shown any substantial connection between the Pashtun population sampled to the genetic markers found amongst most Greeks, Jews, or Arabs. The answer may be that Pashtuns have been slightly modified over time by various invaders and mixes as mentioned above. Yet they have kept their eastern Iranian base genetically overall.</p>
<p>There would thus also be Japhethitic R1a and R1b and Hamitic C YDNA present.</p>
<p>Many conclusions concerning the Semites come from the premise that the Semitic Haplogroups are all J as found among the three populations mentioned.</p>
<p>The Pashtun are classified as Iranian, which as we have seen is primarily Haplogroup I which is derived from the Semitic IJ Haplogroup (see below) but they vary as a typical Central Asian composite YDNA grouping. An attempt was made to classify the Pashtun in the 16th century as one of the Bani Israel, of the Lost Ten Tribes and as Joseph. This was debunked based on their Indo-Iranian affinities and language. However, it is an historical fact that the area of Khandahar, Kabul and Bactria also, on the other side of the Hindu Cush, were made provinces or satrapies of the Persian Empire and their languages are thus affected by that fact.  The DNA similarities with Elam and their reported historical descent and affinity with Joktan indicate that the original DNA of the Semites, including the Joktan Hebrews, was not J but F and the primary Semitic derivative is I and the secondary derivatives are J, both derived from IJ (based on S2 and S22) and then H and G. All the Eastern Semites of Elam and Joktan were Hg. I, rather than J. Thus these mutations occurred over the second millennium BCE and the extended mathematical models of the evolutionists are wrong.((((((((((((((Note the semitic H ,J and F are found in higher frequency among the dark people of India?. 28% of the Brahui, an ethnic Dravidian speaking group from Western Pakistan were found to carry the mutation defining Haplogroup J. (but brahui are nomads like the Elamites)</p>
<p>South Asia</p>
<p>Haplogroup H is fairly common among populations of India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Pakistan.(((((( But the highest frequencies of H-M69 are in India, especially among Dravidians (33%).[5] In Koya speakers (Dravidian tribes) has been found in 71%.[6])))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) and it is a fact the oman.yemeni and nabateans traded with southern India)</p>
<p>In India, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 27.2% (110/405) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition from southern India.[7][8] Another study has found haplogroup H-M69 in 26.4% (192/728) of an ethnically diverse pool of samples from various regions of India.[3]</p>
<p>In Sri Lanka, Haplogroup H-M69 has been found in 25.3% (23/91) of a sample of unspecified ethnic composition[7][8] and in 10.3% (4/39) of a sample of Sinhalese.[6]</p>
<p>In Nepal, one study has found Haplogroup H in approximately 12% of a sample of males from the general population of Kathmandu (including 4/77 H1a-M82, 4/77 H1*-M52(xH1a-M82), and 1/77 H*-M69(xH1-M52, H2-Apt)) and in 6% of a sample of Newars (4/66 H1a-M82).[9]</p>
<p>In Pakistan, Haplogroup H1-M52 has been found in 4.1% Burusho, 20.5% Kalash, 4.2% Pashtun, and 2.5% other Pakistanis.[10] Another study has found haplogroup H in approximately 8% (3/38) of a sample of Burusho (also known as Hunza), including 5% (2/38) H1a*-M82(xH1a1-M36, H1a2-M97, H1a3-M39/M138) and 3% (1/38) H1a1-M36.</p>
<p>The Durrany and Galzay tribes are held to be direct descendants of the Ibrani or Hebrews and probably of the sons of Joktan. Some also hold the Rabbani, Shinwari, Levani, Deftali, and Jaji from Afghanistan, and the Efridi and Yusufzai from Pakistan to also be Hebrew tribes.</p>
<p>Where is Cophen?</p>
<p>Cophen: river in eastern Afghanistan and the western Punjab, the modern Kabul.</p>
<p>The source of the river Kabul is in the Hindu Kush mountains, not far from the modern city with the same name, the capital of Afghanistan. From here, it flows to the east until it discharges into the Indus, near Attock. It is therefore the natural road to India, and several cities have flourished from trade along the river (e.g., Peucelaotis and modern Peshawar). This photo shows the river near Peshawar, seen to the east.</p>
<p>wikipedia</p>
<p>(((((The vast majority of Pashtuns are found between the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan and the Indus River in Pakistan.)))) Additional Pashtun communities are located in western and northern Afghanistan, the Gilgit-Baltistan region and northern Punjab province of Pakistan, as well as in the Khorasan province of Iran. There are also sizable communities in India, which are of largely putative ancestry.[8][22] Smaller Pashtun communities are found in the countries of the Arabian Peninsula, Europe and the Americas, particularly in North America.</p>
<p>Important metropolitan centers of Pashtun culture include Kandahar, Quetta, Peshawar, Jalalabad, Kunduz and Swat. Kabul and Ghazni are home to around 25% Pashtun population while Herat and Mazar-i-Sharif each has at least 10%.[23] With as high as 7 million by some estimates, the city of Karachi in Pakistan may have the largest concentration of urban Pashtuns in the world.[24][25] In addition, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, and Lahore also have sizable Pashtun populations.[26]</p>
<p>also my g g g grandfather was pashtun he 100% did not look white his features were more semitic and i have met a jatt muslim from kashmir he was big and he resembled my g g g grandfather and to be honest he did not resemble punjabis i have seen i live in an area where there a lot of punjabis but their facial features are different</p>
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		<title>By: rasheed</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on 03/10/11 i dreamt of the Prophet PBH talking to Abu Bakr Siddique RA and was asking him(Abu Bakr SiddiqueRA) about the Pashtun people he Abu Bakr RA said I am lighter than them in color but they are the same as us he and the Prophet PBH
also i have dreamt of myself and a punjabi guy i know and i was told i am not the only one from a royal family(also semitic people have settled these areas )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on 03/10/11 i dreamt of the Prophet PBH talking to Abu Bakr Siddique RA and was asking him(Abu Bakr SiddiqueRA) about the Pashtun people he Abu Bakr RA said I am lighter than them in color but they are the same as us he and the Prophet PBH<br />
also i have dreamt of myself and a punjabi guy i know and i was told i am not the only one from a royal family(also semitic people have settled these areas )</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<dc:creator>husayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Kurds have the &quot;Jewish&quot; Cohen Modal Haplotype

In the 1990s, a team of scientists (including the geneticist Michael Hammer, the nephrologist Karl Skorecki, and their colleagues in England) discovered the existence of a haplotype which they termed the &quot;Cohen modal haplotype&quot; (abbreviated as CMH). Cohen is the Hebrew word for &quot;priest&quot;, and designates descendants of Judean priests from two thousand years ago. Initial research indicated that while only about 3 percent of general Jews have this haplotype, 45 percent of Ashkenazic Cohens have it, while 56 percent of Sephardic Cohens have it. David Goldstein, an evolutionary geneticist at Oxford University, said: &quot;It looks like this chromosomal type was a constituent of the ancestral Hebrew population.&quot; Some Jewish rabbis used the Cohen study to argue that all Cohens with the CMH had descended from Aaron, a High Priest who lived about 3500 years ago, as the Torah claimed. Shortly after, it was determined that 53 percent of the Buba clan of the Lemba people of southern Africa have the CMH, compared to 9 percent of non-Buba Lembas. The Lembas claim descent from ancient Israelites, and they follow certain Jewish practices such as circumcision and refraining from eating pork, and for many geneticists and historians the genetic evidence seemed to verify their claim.

However, it soon became apparent that the CMH is not specific to Jews or descendants of Jews. In a 1998 article in Science News, Dr. Skorecki indicated (in an interview) that some non-Jews also possess the Cohen markers, and that the markers are therefore not &quot;unique or special&quot;.(((((( The CMH is very common among Iraqi Kurds, according to a 1999 study by C. Brinkmann et al.)))))))))) And in her 2001 article, Oppenheim wrote: &quot;The dominant haplotype of the Muslim Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step apart from the CMH...&quot; (Oppenheim 2001, page 1100). Furthermore, the CMH is also found among some Armenians, according to Dr. Levon Yepiskoposyan (Head of the Institute of Man in Yerevan, Armenia), who has studied genetics for many years. Dr. Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin wrote: &quot;The suggestion that the &#039;Cohen modal haplotype&#039; is a signature haplotype for the ancient Hebrew population is also not supported by data from other populations.&quot; (Zoossmann-Diskin 2000, page 156).

In short, the CMH is a genetic marker from the northern Middle East which is not unique to Jews. However, its existence among many Kurds and Armenians, as well as some Italians and Hungarians, would seem to support the overall contention that Kurds and Armenians are the close relatives of modern Jews and that the majority of today&#039;s Jews have paternal ancestry from the northeastern Mediterranean region.</description>
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<p>In the 1990s, a team of scientists (including the geneticist Michael Hammer, the nephrologist Karl Skorecki, and their colleagues in England) discovered the existence of a haplotype which they termed the &#8220;Cohen modal haplotype&#8221; (abbreviated as CMH). Cohen is the Hebrew word for &#8220;priest&#8221;, and designates descendants of Judean priests from two thousand years ago. Initial research indicated that while only about 3 percent of general Jews have this haplotype, 45 percent of Ashkenazic Cohens have it, while 56 percent of Sephardic Cohens have it. David Goldstein, an evolutionary geneticist at Oxford University, said: &#8220;It looks like this chromosomal type was a constituent of the ancestral Hebrew population.&#8221; Some Jewish rabbis used the Cohen study to argue that all Cohens with the CMH had descended from Aaron, a High Priest who lived about 3500 years ago, as the Torah claimed. Shortly after, it was determined that 53 percent of the Buba clan of the Lemba people of southern Africa have the CMH, compared to 9 percent of non-Buba Lembas. The Lembas claim descent from ancient Israelites, and they follow certain Jewish practices such as circumcision and refraining from eating pork, and for many geneticists and historians the genetic evidence seemed to verify their claim.</p>
<p>However, it soon became apparent that the CMH is not specific to Jews or descendants of Jews. In a 1998 article in Science News, Dr. Skorecki indicated (in an interview) that some non-Jews also possess the Cohen markers, and that the markers are therefore not &#8220;unique or special&#8221;.(((((( The CMH is very common among Iraqi Kurds, according to a 1999 study by C. Brinkmann et al.)))))))))) And in her 2001 article, Oppenheim wrote: &#8220;The dominant haplotype of the Muslim Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step apart from the CMH&#8230;&#8221; (Oppenheim 2001, page 1100). Furthermore, the CMH is also found among some Armenians, according to Dr. Levon Yepiskoposyan (Head of the Institute of Man in Yerevan, Armenia), who has studied genetics for many years. Dr. Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin wrote: &#8220;The suggestion that the &#8216;Cohen modal haplotype&#8217; is a signature haplotype for the ancient Hebrew population is also not supported by data from other populations.&#8221; (Zoossmann-Diskin 2000, page 156).</p>
<p>In short, the CMH is a genetic marker from the northern Middle East which is not unique to Jews. However, its existence among many Kurds and Armenians, as well as some Italians and Hungarians, would seem to support the overall contention that Kurds and Armenians are the close relatives of modern Jews and that the majority of today&#8217;s Jews have paternal ancestry from the northeastern Mediterranean region.</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<dc:creator>husayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraqi Kurds In human genetics, Haplogroup J (previously known as HG9 or Eu9/Eu10) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup.


In human genetics, Haplogroup J (previously known as HG9 or Eu9/Eu10) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is one of the major male lines of all living men. It is divided into two main branches referred to as J1 and J2.  wikipedia))))

 

The relationship of the five modal haplotypes that were found in the six populations is presented in figure 3. The most-frequent haplotype in all three Jewish groups (the CMH [haplotype 159 in the Appendix]) segregated on a Eu 10 background, together with the three modal haplotypes in Palestinians and Bedouin (haplotypes 144, 151, and 166).(((  The dominant haplotype of the Muslim Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step apart from the CMH and the modal haplotype of the Bedouin, but it belonged to haplogroup Eu 9. )))The three modal haplotypes in the Palestinians and Bedouin were entirely restricted to the two Arab populations. On the other hand, chromosomes with the modal haplotypes of the Jews and of the Muslim Kurds were observed in all the populations except the Bedouin. The three Jewish communities had many additional haplotypes in common with Muslim Kurds (table 3). They shared more haplotypes and chromosomes with Muslim Kurds than with either Palestinians or Bedouin.

 

 

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707613251#sc2.1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraqi Kurds In human genetics, Haplogroup J (previously known as HG9 or Eu9/Eu10) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup.</p>
<p>In human genetics, Haplogroup J (previously known as HG9 or Eu9/Eu10) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is one of the major male lines of all living men. It is divided into two main branches referred to as J1 and J2.  wikipedia))))</p>
<p>The relationship of the five modal haplotypes that were found in the six populations is presented in figure 3. The most-frequent haplotype in all three Jewish groups (the CMH [haplotype 159 in the Appendix]) segregated on a Eu 10 background, together with the three modal haplotypes in Palestinians and Bedouin (haplotypes 144, 151, and 166).(((  The dominant haplotype of the Muslim Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step apart from the CMH and the modal haplotype of the Bedouin, but it belonged to haplogroup Eu 9. )))The three modal haplotypes in the Palestinians and Bedouin were entirely restricted to the two Arab populations. On the other hand, chromosomes with the modal haplotypes of the Jews and of the Muslim Kurds were observed in all the populations except the Bedouin. The three Jewish communities had many additional haplotypes in common with Muslim Kurds (table 3). They shared more haplotypes and chromosomes with Muslim Kurds than with either Palestinians or Bedouin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707613251#sc2.1." rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707613251#sc2.1.</a></p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y-DNA Haplogroups in Iraqi Kurdistan

 

(J2 - 28.4%   semitic)

R1b - 16.8%

I - 16.8%

R1a - 11.6%

(J1 - 11.6%  semitic)

E1b1b - 7.4%

G - 4.2%

T - 3.2</description>
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<p>(J2 &#8211; 28.4%   semitic)</p>
<p>R1b &#8211; 16.8%</p>
<p>I &#8211; 16.8%</p>
<p>R1a &#8211; 11.6%</p>
<p>(J1 &#8211; 11.6%  semitic)</p>
<p>E1b1b &#8211; 7.4%</p>
<p>G &#8211; 4.2%</p>
<p>T &#8211; 3.2</p>
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		<title>By: husayn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurds are from medes
Nebuchadnezzar II was the eldest son, and successor, of Nabopolassar, who delivered Babylon from its dependence on Assyria and laid Nineveh in ruins. According to Berossus, some years before he became king of Babylon, ((((Nebuchadnezzar II married Amytis of Media, the daughter or granddaughter of Cyaxares, king of the Medes, and thus the Median and Babylonian dynasties were united.)))))) There are also conflicting accounts of Nitocris of Babylon either being his wife or daughter. Nabopolassar was intent on annexing the western provinces of Syria from Necho II (who was still hoping to restore Assyrian power), and to this end dispatched his son westward with a powerful army. In the ensuing Battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, the Egyptian army was defeated and driven back, and Syria and Phoenicia were brought under the control of Babylon. Nabopolassar died in August of that year, and Nebuchadnezzar returned to Babylon to ascend to the throne.

After the defeat of the Cimmerians and Scythians,(((( all of Nebuchadnezzar&#039;s expeditions were directed westwards, although the powerful Median empire lay to the north. Nebuchadnezzar&#039;s political marriage to Amytis of Media, the daughter of the Median king, had ensured peace between the two empires.))))))))))))))

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Nebuchadnezzar II was the eldest son, and successor, of Nabopolassar, who delivered Babylon from its dependence on Assyria and laid Nineveh in ruins. According to Berossus, some years before he became king of Babylon, ((((Nebuchadnezzar II married Amytis of Media, the daughter or granddaughter of Cyaxares, king of the Medes, and thus the Median and Babylonian dynasties were united.)))))) There are also conflicting accounts of Nitocris of Babylon either being his wife or daughter. Nabopolassar was intent on annexing the western provinces of Syria from Necho II (who was still hoping to restore Assyrian power), and to this end dispatched his son westward with a powerful army. In the ensuing Battle of Carchemish in 605 BC, the Egyptian army was defeated and driven back, and Syria and Phoenicia were brought under the control of Babylon. Nabopolassar died in August of that year, and Nebuchadnezzar returned to Babylon to ascend to the throne.</p>
<p>After the defeat of the Cimmerians and Scythians,(((( all of Nebuchadnezzar&#8217;s expeditions were directed westwards, although the powerful Median empire lay to the north. Nebuchadnezzar&#8217;s political marriage to Amytis of Media, the daughter of the Median king, had ensured peace between the two empires.))))))))))))))</p>
<p> from wikipdeia</p>
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